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and you know this from what? V.V.S is pretty deep and SST is pretty much one small neighborhood near San Miguel Elemantary school.
Plus you got the Mountain View Nortenos (V.M.V) allying themselvs with Via Sol as well.

Oh yea? I'm from Sunnyvale, what were there names? I'm about 10 years removed thought being that I'm almost 37 and don't know any of the younger heads.

That was a great fucking game last night! Roenick came through big time!

I just saw the PBS Special about the Salinas Nortenos and the shooting at Cap's Saloon that involed the rat, Lizard Hernandez calling the shots. It was pretty good, they got the history of it all a little off but for the most part was dead on. Back in the late 90's I used to go to Salas alot because...

There used to be alot of viet gangs in the Houston area

Nah, I don't recall the Lomas area, weren;t they more south than the east side or even morgan hill or something?

I was always thought BMLS was an East Side varrio. Never heard of them as a NSSJ gang.

Let me correc the post about BMLS, I would say it was closer to 90-91.

I used to live off of Landess and Piedmont, near the Milpitas border and I recally some young heads from Piedmont High claiming a little clicka in early 90's and it don't get more north than that for San Jo. I met the leader of BMLS when they first united and I would say it was in the 93-94, the use...

I haven't lived in San Jose in quite a few years, but I would think thats pretty rare for San Jo homies to say "nigga". Or has things changed that drastically?
I know 415 Homies and East Bay homies say Nigga, but never really heard 408 homies talk like that when I was living there.

HA! The first dude sounded a lil bit like Method Man

You mean its not safe to be out at night wearing blue.

21st gang was supposed to be close to 18th st.
18st was known for having a lot of non hispanic members back in the day and to an extent to this very day but not as much as before.

Actually there are nortenos throught the US now as well, not as prolific as Surenos however. The wananbe Surenos that sprouted accross the country naturally created their own enemies when their enemies banded together to fight back. The only natural thing to do was bang the exact opposite of Sur, th...

Your saying you hate asian gangs who not from ghettos? Or asians in general? I know there are many fake asian gangs out there but every race got fake gangs. 1. I hate asian gangs not frm the ghetto because they aren't in it for refuge, protection and security ..they are in it to hurt others juss be...

I was gonna start typing to explain the theories and reasons why. But I decided not too, and let people use the search button. There about 100 pages devoted to this subject on this website and "hows" and "whys" there are "Northern Surenos".

Kollmar, Let me give you some advice lil homie. I like you, I like what you have to say in this open forum. But I think you should hang up the gloves, so to speak. No disrespect, but you never struck me as a hard core gangster and at one time it was probably cool for you to kick it with your homies ...

I don't think this is coming from norteno rappers, this is coming from the NF. They let out the word, to clean the streets and the young homies are taking to heart. This is coming from pelican bay on down and from Quentin. I just had a homie I went to school with get released after doing 10 years, a...

Obviously you haven't been to parts of Westminster/Santa Ana/Garden Grove, which as not very rich at all. I think asian gangs are much quicker to pull the trigger than most but there are greater numbers in hispanic and black gangs. Now if you want to brag that blacks and hispanics have more gangster...

http://origin1.montereyherald.com/ci_8350955 Monterey County's deadliest gang has new leadership and a new constitution, forcing changes that law enforcement officers say is translating to increased violence in the streets. After several years of upheaval — stemming largely from the massive federal ...

http://origin1.montereyherald.com/ci_8350955 Monterey County's deadliest gang has new leadership and a new constitution, forcing changes that law enforcement officers say is translating to increased violence in the streets. After several years of upheaval — stemming largely from the massive federal ...

Go to Lake Elizabeth on July 4th and you'll see a whole shit load of veteranos from FMT.

There was a Brown Pride movement in the 90's I had a lil homie who was in one and the all sported brown panos.
They kicked it over by White and McKee and down White Road heading toward the East Side.

The V.V.S thing could be true. I know the homies were uniting to battle against the Surenos. For sure Mountain View (V.M.V), Sunnvale and West Santa Clara (V.T.V) First I've eve heard of West Side joining the "alliance". I can tell you now, that even back to the early 90's, Sunnyvale always had alli...

Hey J, did you post over in Brown Kingdom about V.V.S spreading to the West Side? What did you mean?

I know for a fact the Bulldogs don't side with Surenos either. They rush Nortnenos and Surenos in thier prison, theres one prisons near fresno that they have the majority, I forgot the name of it.

All that being said, I think Northern Rappers have a better "flow" than the Sureno rappers. Like Lil Rob has a terrible voice and flow to his raps, I guess he doesn't want to sound black, but in doing so, his raps sound generic. Does that make sense?

Frost was always weak when it came to Lyrics and he wasn't even a real gangster. He started off as a DJ/Rapper with Uncle Jams Army and was part of the whole L.A. Electro funk scene that included Arabian Prince and Eygpytian lover. He only turned to Gangster rap after the success of NWA. Cypress Hil...

Chuc Mung Nam Moi and Gung Hay Fat Choy.
May everyone have healthy, happy and prosperus new year.

Some do, not all. Its not like La Eme where the force everyone to pay taxes, regardless. The NF will only tax dope dealers who are big enough to show up on their radar. Not many norte clicks funk with each other anymore since the sureno insurgence. Most cities that used to be rival are now allies un...

my bad, sorry for the multiple posts, IE was hanging up on me and theres no edit button!

This was posted on one of the norteno rap forums, take what he says with a grain of salt but he claims to have spoken to his cousin who was locked up in Pelican Bay. IF you read other articles it says rival gangs were involved. And with all the press about black and brown crime lately, you know that...