Eastside 52 Oriental Blood's

[Sinista]

ARE THEY STILL ACTIVE?

[alexalonso]

i think there are few of them still in the projects.

[VictoriousHTZ]

ES OBZ X WS OLBZ is the same gang so I can put in my 5 cents. We consider them the homies on the ES and were on the WS. Both our hoods connect through alameda street. You heard right, from China Town to Pueblo Projectz it's only like a 15 minute drive. Pun intended.

Some OBZ claims 52 and some claim other blocks now.
OLBZ originally claimed WS then CT and had an Echo Park click along with other clicks.

The thing about our sets is our tradition. We were taught to keep hush. When LA times came to the projects to try and interview us we turnt that down, when alonso offered an interview the big homies turnt that down. Don't get me started about politics. May it couldve been good or bad, the Oriental Family has a very unique history. From ES OBZ first being enemies with Pueblos to becoming allies to now being 50/50. WS OLBZ first beefing with eses then functioning with eses from all over. We had homies roll Blood in the pen. We took that Blood thang serious. Even though not all homies agreed with it. Theres too many could ofs....

Anyhow, theres still a few OBZ in the projectz. Youll catch em in a couple Pueblo music videos. Or just ask BSV or BMS.

[Sinista]

I seen that one documentary called inside south central,The history on the OBZ is interesting as fuck they go hard tho

[VictoriousHTZ]

Yeah its plenty of lost history. That's why I'm here. People aren't participating though so I'm about to call it quits!

There's a reason ES LAOBz aren't deep in the projects anymore.
There was a click that had orientals and blacks before they graduated to the big leagues.
How do some Pueblos feel when Blacks get in OB?
There was a Mexican gang in the Pueblo Projects who OB help bring up.

Man...I'm waisting my time. I'm gone!

[shing]

Yeah its plenty of lost history. That's why I'm here. People aren't participating though so I'm about to call it quits!

There's a reason ES LAOBz aren't deep in the projects anymore.
There was a click that had orientals and blacks before they graduated to the big leagues.
How do some Pueblos feel when Blacks get in OB?
There was a Mexican gang in the Pueblo Projects who OB help bring up.

Man...I'm waisting my time. I'm gone!

hardly anyone is going to respond to Asian topics. growing up I used to see Mexicans and blacks tell the youngsters to claim their shit to cops, to anyone. Asians, never do that. you can go into any hood in la and see who is running that area. is it a black hood? Is it eses? easy to decipher. you come into Monterey park, which corner do you see WC chillin at? where are all the hsg? can you tell who is even who? my point is that Asians are really low key. who on here is going to say anything about past crimes or what a gang is up to knowing that police probably use this site for evidence gathering? I think I know someone from every Asian gang in la and oc. and I guarantee that none of them would appreciate it too much if I started saying how their homey smoked some dude from here or how they used to run scams here or rob people there.

[Ocsfinest]

Yeah its plenty of lost history. That's why I'm here. People aren't participating though so I'm about to call it quits!

There's a reason ES LAOBz aren't deep in the projects anymore.
There was a click that had orientals and blacks before they graduated to the big leagues.
How do some Pueblos feel when Blacks get in OB?
There was a Mexican gang in the Pueblo Projects who OB help bring up.

Man...I'm waisting my time. I'm gone!

hardly anyone is going to respond to Asian topics. growing up I used to see Mexicans and blacks tell the youngsters to claim their shit to cops, to anyone. Asians, never do that. you can go into any hood in la and see who is running that area. is it a black hood? Is it eses? easy to decipher. you come into Monterey park, which corner do you see WC chillin at? where are all the hsg? can you tell who is even who? my point is that Asians are really low key. who on here is going to say anything about past crimes or what a gang is up to knowing that police probably use this site for evidence gathering? I think I know someone from every Asian gang in la and oc. and I guarantee that none of them would appreciate it too much if I started saying how their homey smoked some dude from here or how they used to run scams here or rob people there.

This is true,

But there's nothing wrong with Sharing history and info on past hoods, closed cases, fools doing life, etc.

Always good to reminisce bout the past, and learn new history bout the scene.

Alotta youngsters prolly don't even know the history of their hoods, or that some of their ogs were actually bustas haha

[VictoriousHTZ]

Agreed 100. We both know what we speak on here is already known. If we speak on crimes its already been prosecuted. Anything else is snitching. We can speculate, we can chop it up and dialogue. Like how you, me and Judas been doing.

Its all gravey just no name dropping. Unless he a piece of shit.

What should be some board rules? So nobody will get in trouble. Lol.. Alonso since your a knowledgeable cat in the law and the streets, how about your 2 cents so some of the guys and gals (Christina not forgetting about u) may eaze up so they can finally feel they aren't doing no harm but choppin it up?

[Sinista]

OBZ goes hard,Are there any old photo's of them

[VictoriousHTZ]

yeah but i cant do my homiez like that. the flicks are real proper like with the boyz posted in the hood theres a couple pueblo music videos with homiez tho. i couldve been in one but didnt go to the hood that day. i just ordered an allhood magazine issue 5 with pueblos history. it mentions the ES. if its good ill post the part about ES LAOB 52.

[Sinista]

Post it ,Are there pics to

Are there any pic's are there custom made gear

[VictoriousHTZ]

http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-sout ... story.html
At an impoverished housing complex, a reflection of South L.A.

Pueblo del Rio, one of the oldest and largest public housing developments in Los Angeles, has been beset with crippling poverty and gang violence for much of its 67 years. Audio slide show >>> (Michael Robinson Chavez / Los Angeles Times)

Los Angeles Police Sgt. Alex Vargas sprinted across the grass to the front of an apartment. He leaned ever so gently against the door. "It's open," he said, and his breath quickened. He locked eyes with another officer who was standing across the stoop, gun held tight against his thigh. "I'm going in," Vargas said.

The gunshots had erupted in a courtyard at Pueblo del Rio, one of the oldest and largest public housing developments in Los Angeles, a place beset with crippling poverty and gang violence for much of its 67 years. It was late on a Friday, and it had been a quiet night. Now it looked as though someone had kicked over an anthill.

Looky-loos streamed in. So did police. There were obstacles everywhere: shell casings you weren't supposed to step on; old-timey wire clotheslines, neck-high, that you didn't want to run into. A police helicopter banked overhead; everyone winced at its burst of white light, then pushed on through the dark.

Witnesses shouted out stories that could not all be true. The shooter had fled east, toward the old flour mill. No, west, toward the tracks. It was a handgun. No, a rifle. They agreed on one thing: The victim had been shot in the back and stumbled into one of these apartments. Vargas, a 16-year LAPD veteran, had found the right place. He had no idea what he'd find on the other side of the door.

Gang violence has fallen in this corner of South L.A., and civic leaders are laboring to secure some semblance of lasting peace and community -- through new police tactics and city-funded gang-prevention, job-training and other programs.

Defusing Pueblo del Rio is a less daunting proposition than it would have been in years past. But it still comes with complexities: the three gangs that call "the Pueblos" home, the insular families who've been here from the start. The community reflects what lies ahead for South L.A.: an unlikely sense of quiet and optimism most days, tempered by startling episodes that threaten to plunge the neighborhood back into the more familiar narrative of violence.

A 'garden city'

Vargas pushed the door open and stepped inside.

The bullets had crashed through the windows, past lace curtains above the washing machine and a fly swatter hanging over the stove. One had ripped through the side of the fridge, landing in a colander full of russet potatoes. Another had found the pantry and become lodged inside a canister of pink sprinkles, the kind you put on cupcakes.

A third slammed into Nicole Horne's shoulder.

Horne, 25, was born and raised here -- the third generation of her family to live in this apartment. She'd been in the courtyard when a fight erupted; the bullets were not meant for her. She'd stumbled inside, then collapsed onto the bare tile floor of the living room.

"It burns!" she screamed. "Where is the ambulance?"

Horne's wounds were not fatal. Vargas helped soothe her until paramedics arrived. He needed to get back to the streets, and there was nothing more he could do here anyway. But as he steered his cruiser away, he suspected this wasn't the last he'd hear of this. The area where Horne had been shot was controlled by the Pueblo Bishops, the community's dominant gang.

"They'll kill each other for this," Vargas said.

To understand Pueblo del Rio today, it helps to understand what it once was: a monument, when it opened in 1942, to the West's World War II-era can-do ingenuity.

The concept was lofty: housing for the masses, not fancy but functional, occupied largely by workers drawn by the nearby defense yards; a "garden city" on 17.5 acres at Alameda and East 55th streets, where 390 apartments would open front and back onto green space. The architects were recognized visionaries, men such as Paul Revere Williams and Richard Neutra, the Vienna-born designer who had appeared on the cover of Time magazine.

From the start, Pueblo del Rio's fate mirrored that of South L.A.

Demand meant expansion; in 1954, 270 more apartments were built on an additional 16.6 acres. Jobs and opportunity meant diversity; Pueblo del Rio was almost entirely African American at a time when white families in L.A. were beginning to look elsewhere to make their homes.

The downward spiral began soon enough. The factories shut down and jobs became scarce. Communal housing for the poor no longer looked ingenious; it looked naive. Some politicians began calling such housing "socialist."

Money ran short. Rats moved in. In the 1970s, even the playground got paved over. At the height of the crack epidemic, dealers and junkies roamed the grounds.

Violent outbursts became routine -- in 1988, when gangsters got into a full-fledged shootout with rifles and Molotov cocktails; in 1991, when two teenagers, one just 14, were arrested after a firebomb killed a woman and her 11-month-old daughter inside one apartment.

Tensions between police and the community boiled over too -- in 1991, when SWAT officers wearing balaclava hoods barreled into one apartment in the middle of the night, searching for a man who did not live there; in 2003, when residents threw bottles and batteries at officers who had shot a man who'd fired at them.

Pueblo del Rio became a deeply impoverished place; the average family income of $17,405 is less than a third of the Los Angeles County average.

Gangs took root: the Bishops, which formed in the 1970s to protect against outsiders; then the Oriental Boyz, a small gang composed mostly of Cambodian Americans raised by refugees from the Khmer Rouge. Most recently, Florencia 13 has begun inching in as Latinos have come to constitute 78% of the Pueblos' population of roughly 2,100. All three gangs are among the targets of a new police injunction restricting the movements and activities of members across a 13.7-square-mile area of South L.A., including Pueblo del Rio.

Fear of retaliation

Today, some residents say the aroma of meth labs fills the courtyards; they dare not tell the police, they say, because they would be killed. There are new playgrounds, but some parents say gang members have charged them $5 to bring their toddlers there. Gunshots can still erupt without warning.

"When it pops off here, it pops off," said LAPD Sgt. Art Silva.

Lifelong residents often seem dismayed over their circumstances -- and, at the same time, proud of what they've managed to do with the place.

"We ain't looking for 40 acres and a mule," longtime resident J.D. Price said one recent afternoon as he gave a neighbor's son a haircut on his front porch. "We're just looking for a chance -- to live and to work, not to sell drugs to our own to get by. A lot of people here would be surprised if they ever made it out. So it's a city within a city. That's how I look at it."

After emigrating from Guatemala, Zoila Hunt raised her son here. She worked hard, packing hot towels and bulk shipments of plastic bags at downtown factories, which left her fingers knotted with arthritis. She's lived here 18 years; her son is now a Border Patrol agent, and she has become a U.S. citizen.

"I love this country for what it gave to my son," she said. Asked about raising a boy in the Pueblos, she said: "I never let him out of my sight. Nunca. Never."

A young place

These days, most of the time, Pueblo del Rio works -- in its own way.

The tiny garden plots the architects insisted on installing in front of the 109 low-slung apartment buildings are full of roses and baby palm trees. Overhead, sycamores planted during the Truman administration are now mature and shady.

Recent years have brought numerous improvements: new plumbing and wiring in some apartments, a resurfacing of the basketball court. There are three preschools, two of them Head Start programs. Officials recently added new lights with bullet-resistant shields.

The Pueblos is a young place -- nearly half of its residents are under 18 -- and each day after school, children race to apartments where residents open their living room windows and, through the burglary bars, sell chips and candy, even kites.

In the courtyards, old Cambodian American men sit cross-legged on the grass on sunny afternoons and play ouk chatrang, which is similar to chess.

On a recent weekend, the tight-knit Asian community celebrated the Cambodian New Year, traditionally marking the end of the harvest season.

In a scraggly courtyard next to an abandoned rail yard, residents erected an altar with palm fronds, coconuts and sticky rice wrapped in palm leaves. Under a canopy, they danced and played traditional games, one akin to duck-duck-goose, with the added component of a weighted scarf with which they would playfully whack friends on the backside.

Asians had invited over African American and Latino friends -- no small gesture here -- and served them heaping plates of chicken and beef skewers.

"When I first got here, I was very scared," said one of the celebrators, 62-year-old Sroeung Kov. His family, like thousands of others, fled Phnom Penh when Khmer Rouge soldiers seized the city in 1975. After a harrowing six years on the run and in refugee camps, he landed at Pueblo del Rio in 1981.

"Year by year, it's gotten more peaceful here," he said. "Now, it is not like it was before. We still don't have money. No one here has money. But we do the best we can."

scott.gold@latimes.com

[VictoriousHTZ]

http://articles.latimes.com/1988-05-13/ ... ng-project

2 Wounded, 2 Arrested : Cambodians Trade Shots With Blacks at Housing Project
May 13, 1988|NIESON HIMMEL | Times Staff Writer

Two men were wounded during a protracted gun battle between black gang members and some Cambodian men at a South-Central Los Angeles housing project, police reported Thursday.

Officers seized two high-powered rifles and three handguns and arrested two Cambodian men after the gunfight, which began late Wednesday night.

Three hours after the initial confrontation in the 5200 block of Duarte Street, members of the Bloodstone gang returned and tried unsuccessfully to set fire to an apartment occupied by a Cambodian family by throwing two Molotov cocktails, Police Sgt. John Paige said.

After the firebombing attempt, five or six shots were fired into the dwelling but no one was hurt, he added.

Had Been Tension

"There has been some tension between the Cambodian residents and the blacks in the (Pueblo Del Rio) project. But there hadn't been anything like this," Police Sgt. Bernie Skiles said.



There are an estimated 100 Cambodians living in the project, which has more than 600 units.

Wounded in the initial shooting was Alfie Manor, 19, who was hit twice in the upper torso, and Bord Daniels, 31, described by Skiles as "a deaf resident and innocent bystander, who was caught in the cross fire" as he sat on a porch. He was wounded in the face.

Skiles said Manor was "a gang member, but possibly an innocent victim of the shooting."

Both men were reported to be in stable condition at Martin Luther King Jr./Drew Medical Center.

Create Disturbance

The shooting erupted after a group of gang members created a disturbance outside a Cambodian woman's apartment, Skiles said.

"She asked them to quiet down, but things escalated and pretty soon some friends who were visiting her rushed out with weapons and the fight was on," he said.

Paige said about 40 shots were fired by both sides in the initial gun battle.

Two of the woman's friends, Reth Neang, 31 and Sok Sao, 28, described as out-of-town residents, were booked at the Newton Division station for investigation of assault with a deadly weapon and held in lieu of $22,000 bail.

Police seized an AK-47 semiautomatic assault rifle, an M-1 carbine and three handguns believed to have belonged to the Cambodians. The attempted firebombing and subsequent shooting occurred at another Cambodian resident's apartment, police said.

Will Beef Up Patrols

As a result of the incidents, police said they would beef up patrols in the housing project at 53rd Street and Long Beach Avenue.

Usually only one police unit with two officers patrols the area, but on Thursday night and through the weekend, four additional officers from the Community Resources Against Street Hoodlums (CRASH) unit will be assigned there, in addition to four officers from the housing authorities.

Skiles said the case, including evidence against members of the Bloodstone gang members, will be presented to the district attorney. But no other arrests were made.

"We've got a lot more investigation to do," he added.

"They want to be in charge of everything," Paige said of the gang members. "If you challenge their authority in any way, this is what happens. They're chumps."

[VictoriousHTZ]

Just a Lil something for fans who like to talk out the side of they neck. Check out this fan boy from south Los dick riding BMS then back peddling when his boys get dissed.

[Sinista]

The guy that did the documentary does he have an email?

What ever happen to the O'z?