This is my response to Big Dusty
*Yeah, what's up?
-Your saying all BLACKS need to practice SELF-DEFENSE and target MEXICANS and WHITES that are RACIST. That sounds more like an offensive move, than a defensive move.
*As well as those within their own community. And as far as targeting, I'm referring to mexican gang bangers in particular, seeing as how they're the main ones, committing all the genocide and targeting of black civilians on the streets of L.A.! Truth be told, it doesn't matter what the nationality is, and until some indonesians begin to orchestrate and repeat the activities of mexican gang bangers, and the instructions they're receiving from on high, I'LL JUST STICK TO MEXICAN GANG BANGERS, AND THEIR ALLIES!!!
And as far as me calling out an "offensive" move, HOW IS THAT??? When the panthers declared the police as predators within the black community, and decided to defend the black community against the police specifically, you're telling me that this was an offensive move, just because they, like myself, are identifying the enemy, and what the enemy entails!! Naw fool, that's not an offensive move, that's a smart move. A wise move. The type of move and logistics one would utilize, in order to effectively strike a blow to the enemy.
If anything, you need to rethink your definition of "defense" or "offense." I have the right definition down pat, and understand the context in which I'm stating my purpose!!
-Man, you keep saying the same stuff, ya lil Farrakhan circa 1968...LOL.
*Farrakhan has nothing to do with me, nor my rage! This is the twenty-first century, and I'm dealing with twenty-first century concerns. Furthermore, Farrakhan "circa 1968" wasn't saying the things I'm saying, nor advocating, so stop your b.s! I know damn well about Farrakhan and his beliefs, and where he's coming from! Probably folks ought to really listen to Farrakhan, or folks like King, or what have you, so individuals like me don't have to come on the scene!
-Okay, your a MAD BLACK MAN!
*I guess you can say that!
-You got all that energy, all the conspiracy theories, all the rationale and reasoning to prove the WHITE MAN and his lil brother the MEXICAN are out to kill you and your people.
*And my energy is directing me in the right path, for ultimately, much to your dislike, I know what the hell I'm talking about in that regards!! You downplaying my assertions doesn't prove me wrong, nor right, rather you're just utilizing a tactic of dismissal, concerning my position, as if what I'm saying isn't all too serious, or something that ought not be seriously considered!!!
Look fool, the fact of the matter is, MEXICANS GANGS DOWN SOUTH, AND PARTS OF THE SOUTHWEST, ON THE STREETS, AS WELL AS IN PRISON, HAVE ALLIANCES WITH WHITE SUPREMACISTS!!!! I'm not making that up!! Mexican gangs (particularly surenos) have received marching orders to attack black gangs, and in the process many black non-gang bangers have been attacked!!! Furthermore, many racist mexicans, rather on the net, or in real life FOOL (I'm not getting all my information from the net, as much as you would like to think) are talking about a day, when the southwest will be totally dominated by mexicans, to where they can eventually invoke genocide upon the black population, and create this new Aztlan they're always crying about!!! And many of them will admit, whether on the net, or in real life, that mexican gangbangers have committed the opening salvo in this race war, and reconquest, by killing off black folks on the streets, whether they are gang bangers, or not!!! Tell me I'm lying!!
And it's true, that mexicans are allied with white supremacists, who also are looking for a day, when blacks (they also throw in jews) are annihilated from off the face of the earth!!! I know cats that are part mexican who are skinheads, or members of the nazi-lowriders!! I've read literature, and have seen this practiced with mine own eyes, where white nationalists and mexican nationalists are joining together, and discussing their eternal enemies: BLACK FOLKS!!!
In San Antonio last year, there was an article dealing with gangs in that city, and how it was surprising to see mexicans who were a part of neo-nazi, white supremacist organizations!!! Hell, the mexican gangs in southern cali have alliances with white supremacists, and never touch, nor raid their white brethren's territory, but they will attack, and get off on attacking and killing wantonly, black folks, and will brag about it!!! (They also target asians to a lesser extent.)
One person even told me on this site that if a mexican were to enter the pen, being a member of either a blood, or crip gang, that he would receive more harsher reprisals, than if a mexican were in a white supremacist gang!!!
Moreover, the very fact that a white man (Peg Leg) was tolerated as the head of La Eme, tells me all that I need to know, in addition to the information that I've just put forth, in regards to mexican racists being the new white supremacists, and the klan with a tan!! So man, you ain't telling me NADA!!!
-You go boy, keep woofin', let it be known. Why not just kick it on the corner of Pico/Western with a loudspeaker and a microphone and tell everybody how you feel? I'll be sure to check you out when I'm at the swap meet across the street...LOL
*Yeah, yeah, yeah, right!! The fact that you have to resort to stale and cornball jokes, only tells me that I'm hitting home!
-What are you getting at?
*The same can be asked of you, seeing as how I've plainly stated my opinions, whereas you are filibustering this topic with cornball jokes and straw man arguments, that's not worth a damn!
-Damn dog, do you live outside of your computer?
*No more, no less than you do.
-Your soaking in what people say on the net, and spewing it back with your rantings.
*Damn straight I'm "soaking in what people say on the net" as well as in real life!! What? You mean folks can speak their b.s. on the net, but as soon as someone like me strikes back, THEN THERE'S A PROBLEM!!! Look fool, I'm throwing back the hate, that hate produced, and just because I'm coming like an uncompromising wrecking ball, doesn't mean that I'm not making any salient points!!!! You can criticize me personally, and even attack my motives, all you want, but the info that I'm spitting is more timely than the garbage you're attempting to say!!!
As a matter of fact, you're not really saying much of anything, truth be told, neither do your points, nor questions, HAVE ANY SUBSTANCE!!
-What are you getting at? Black SELf-DEFENSE?
*Fool, you can read, WHAT THE HELL YOU THINK I'M GETTING AT!!! Not only that loco man, YOU KNOW THAT'S WHERE I'M GETTING AT, SO STOP FAKING THE FUNK!!!!!!
You're just mad, as well as others, because I've articulated my reasons for self-defense, as well as certain people that must be targeted as enemies of black people, who will randomly kill non-black gang bangers-JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE BLACK!! So what's your point loc?
-Who is debating that? Everybody has the right to self-defense.
*The folks who are debating this is you; it's just that folks like you are upset that I include non-blacks into the equation as the enemy of black people, instead of just targeting whites!!! Folks like you are use to seeing black folk cater to their "darker brethren", like Malcolm X, Farrakhan, or Jesse Jackson!! However, I'M NOT THE ONE!!!!
Those negroes are, and were so blinded to the reality, that they want to invoke, to where they don't see that the majority of the folks that they're trying to appeal to, may appreciate their message of kissing butt, and them in particular, but it doesn't translate to the whole black population!! In the eyes of many mexicans, folks like Farrakhan and Al Sharpton, are just trying to appeal to mexicans, because they're trying to attach themselves onto another group whom they feel is on the rise, seeing as how their own racial group is on the decline! (I've discussed this aspect in greater detail, in my response to Gibby, on this one particular thread.)
I can say more on this, but check this out dusty fool, YOU'D HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF PEDDLING YOUR B.S TO A BLACK PERSON THAT WANTS TO BELIEVE ALL THAT RAINBOW COALITION FOOLISHNESS, THAN Y0U WOULD A PERSON LIKE ME!!!
-Are you mad that some people don't like your people? There are racists in every camp.
*I don't care about folks not liking black folk, FOOL!! I have thicker skin than that, and you know this, and if you don't, YOU TRULY ARE LOCO ARE YOU!!! I don't care if someone's racist, or don't like black people, if that's all there was to it, but unfortunately when human beings dislike or hate another group, it usually doesn't stay within themselves. No! Many of those fools will begin to practice acts of discrimination, which can come in various forms, such as job discrimination, lending discrimination, targeting and KILLING folks of a particular race, just because they're black, etc.!!! That's what got folks like me going!!
If only folks can just dislike you, but not discriminate against you, but rather treat you fairly and just!! But see, we don't live in that type of world, and folks like you know this!
So again fool, you don't have me on nothing! It's best for you to revamp, and reassess what you're throwing back at me.
-You keep talking about smoke screens and all that, man it's clear as day, your the one with the clouded mind who only see's one avenue.
*Naw fool, my mind is clear, and I have 20/20 vision, and just because you boldly and confidently declare me as someone with a "clouded mind", doesn't mean it is so. You're mind is "clouded" simply because the issues that I'm dealing with, DOESN'T CONCERN YOUR PEOPLE, so you don't have the sense of urgency that I have, in expressing my rage!!
-You generalize and group a whole culture as racist, that's bull.
*You can call it generalizing all you want, but the simple fact of the matter is: THE MAJORITY OF MEXICANS ARE RACIST AGAINST BLACKS!! Hell, you even had a couple of folks on this site, admit to the same thing, even though right now they may regret ever posting up that information, due to my attacks!
I've had mexicans tell me to my face, whether they themselves hated black folks, or not, THAT THE MAJORITY OF MEXICANS HATED BLACK PEOPLE!! Now that I'm attacking, and calling folks on their racism, do you get folks who are mexican, who knows what I'm saying is the truth, trying to pacify, and make it seems as if there's nothing but love in the hood, between black and the brown-JUST BECAUSE I'M ON THE SCENE!!!
The funny thing is, those same folks wouldn't go amongst their own people and preach that rainbow message, but they'll preach around black folks, only to pacify their righteous anger, towards mexicans and their racism!!!
Fool, you're not dealing with an amateur here!
-Some of your people are just as racist as everyone else, but oh wait a minute they got reason too right so it's okay for them to be racist in your view...LOL.
*Again, I see why you call yourself "loco", seeing as how all you seem to spew, is sophist b.s.!!! I've admitted on a couple of posts back that black folks can be racist, and that them practicing racism and discrimination against other folks was, and is wrong!!! You see, your problem, just like another nut I'd debated on this site, is based on the fact that you think you know my "type" or folks that think like me!!! You fools have a "been there, done that" type of philosophy, when it comes to debating, or discussing issues with folks like me, which make you guys appear highly foolish and arrogant!!!
That little display of "gotcha" argumentation, accompanied by your FAKE laughther at your own shi_t, just proves how full of sh_it, you truly are!!
Besides, the fact that blacks can be racist, 1) doesn't take away from my arguments concerning the majority of mexicans being racist; 2) mexican racists are the new white supremacists; 3) THAT BLACK FOLKS OUGHT TO DEFEND THEMSELVES AGAINST RACIST MEXICANS WHO INTENTIONALLY SEEK OUT BLACK FOLKS TO KILL, REGARDLESS OF GANG AFFILIATION, OR NOT!!!!
How in the hell, do you possibly link the fact that blacks can be racist, with the very real fact that blacks, in addition to cleaning up their own house, must post guards outside their house, TO PROTECT FROM THOSE WITHIN THEIR COMMUNITY, AS WELL AS WITHOUT!!!
Man your argument, or just that statement, followed by that weak laugh, just proves to me that you really are loco!! LOL!!!
- How many times have I come across some black's calling a mexican a "Mexican", a "wetback"? Or how many times have I come across some black's calling an asian a "chink"? Man, it goes both ways. But I don't attribute one person's ignorance on their entire race.
*I've already addressed the topic about blacks and their racism, but let me just deal with the fact that "it goes both ways": SO WHAT, WHAT ELSE IS NEW?!! Does that now mean that I'm supposed to back off, or for that matter, does it mean that everything that I've stated previously on this topic, as well as this thread becomes IRRELEVANT!! No it doesn't!
The only thing irrelevant from what I can see presently, is your weak arguments, and your condescending b.s.!
-That's being a close minded individual, you see only what you want to see.
*Naw fool, my eyes are wide open! Furthermore, you have your nerves accusing me of being "close minded", when it's you who compare me to Farrakhan, circa 1968, while using old stale arguments, to try and take down my positions, because you think you got me figured out!!!
Man, you ain't figured out shi_t! LOL!! Open your mind fool-THIS IS A NEW DAY!
-I got good friends from all races, and when we all get together we some racist mofo's clownin' each other all night.
*Man, rephrase this asinine statement of yours! I think I understand where you're trying to go with this, however, I'd rather have you interpret your own words!
-Just cause you didn't get invited to the party homie, don't cry..LOL
*Any party that gathers itself in such a way, to where you can't adequately describe it-I guess I wouldn't want to attend, or be invited! From what I'm reading, you yourself don't know exactly what type of party it is.
-You need to start being REAL here.
*Man, I'm more real than a fake loc like you can ever be, and so is my information...
-Keep reading your books man, this time try to slide off the African-American corner at Borders, their selection sucks. Try reading about the Brown Berets. Try reading about the history of Los Angeles.
*You see, this just shows you how arrogant, and full of shi_t, you imbeciles are! HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT I'VE NEVER DONE ANY RESEARCH ON THE BROWN BERETS???? I'm aware of those black panther rip offs!!!! But see, your arrogance, and foolish presumptions will lead you into believing that I'm a myopic lunatic, who's reading selection can start a bookstore catering to to the black population!! Man, again, you truly are loco!
(Now that we're discussing books, how about reading "The Alchemist!" Someone gave it to me over the Xmas break; I think it's a good read!)
-I'm not gonna speak for everyone else on here, but REAL, you need to wake up and smell the coffee/roses/whatever.
*No fool, I've smelled the coffee, as well as the b.s. you're throwing at me, a mile away!! The fact that my nostrils are clear, and the fact that I can see clearly, is what makes me free! You're just assuming that just because I don't agree with you, that this necessitates me being asleep.
Naw man, I'm much more awake than you, or what others want to give me credit for-but nice try at being logical and rational...
-If you live here in the LOS, you would know what I'm talking about. We got all kinds of races living on this square block, ain't no riots jumpin off or fools burning down houses.
*Look fool, riots have occurred in the LOS, and even though your neck of the woods may be clear, and your folks may not be murdered at a disproportionate rate, or had a house burned down and bombed because they were black, or being shot down randomly, just because they were black, etc.: DOESN'T MEAN THAT ALL IS WELL IN THE CITY OF ANGELS FOOL!!! And you tell me that I ought to wake up!!!
Man, cut it with your pacifying b.s., and go mentor another young black man, because tangling with me-like I essentially told someone else-is a lost cause! I believe in what I believe in, and say what I mean, and mean what I say, regardless of who likes it!! Ya' dig fool?
-The streets are the streets, and what's wrong is wrong, what's right is right...ain't no color involved.
*Okay Theo, tell that to the black bodies that are randomly being killed, whether they are gang bangers or not!!!! You don't know what it is to be black, and all this "love in the hood" paradise talk is A SMOKESCREEN (yeah I said it), in order to thwart and sway black folk to what's real!
Man, I don't listen to nothing a fool like you has to say, because the same message of "hood paradise" your peddling at this black man, you wouldn't dare do this around your own people, or other non-blacks!! The type of b.s. you're peddling is reserved for angry black folk, once they get tired of the shi_t! It's similar to a pacifier, that a mother would place inside of their baby's mouth, in order for it to stop crying.
Well I'm not a baby, nor am I in need of a pacifier, and if one were placed in my mouth, I'D SPIT IT OUT INTO YOUR FACE!! Which is symbolically what I'm doing presently with your arguments and false rationale!
-You wanna find a reason for you to start a fight, you don't need to race-bait and talk about some 400+ year history you were never a part of and won't likely be affecting.
*Man you're weak. Look fool, just because I discuss history within my rebuttals, doesn't mean that I was personally apart of it, neither can it be interpreted that I think that it is possible!! However, my ancestors have experienced what I'm articulating, and seeing as how if someone doesn't know their past, they are likely to not know the present or future, I feel that I have every right to pull up history from the past occasionally, in order to embolden my arguments in the present!!
So go somewhere else with that illogical, and anti-intellectual crap!
-This is today.
*Exactly, and that's why I'm dealing with issues that are relevant for today, as opposed to being stuck in the old arguments of the past, like fools on this site, who try to argue with me, using old line positions, or whatnot!!!
That's what I keep trying to tell those fools that THIS IS TODAY!!! So come at me with something new, that would make me reassess my frame of thought, instead of this garbage, because loc-you struck out!
-There are ways for you to be active and proactive and positive in the community. Which community you chose to do, that's on you...good luck with that.
*I can respect that...
-As for me, I respect all people. I don't respect the ignorant.
*Good for you, now look at the man in the mirror, and tell me what you see.
Having said that, I'm out! I'll see you next week!