Grapes Street Crips in Watts

[woobanga]

YESSIR!

[dubts]

hardest outta L.A. gee!!!

[coastie]

hardest outta L.A. gee!!!

nigga that would mean ecc dont exist no more

[coastie]

and we know that aint happenin.

the title mean the grapes got smashed the hardest outta the whole watts car

[Babmuk]

the title mean the grapes got smashed the hardest outta the whole watts car

probably )))
I wonder who took more loses grapes or hunters..i think grapes..imho

[woobanga]

UR A FUCCIN IDIOT IF U CELIEVE that.

[kmcox]

The Hunnas R by far the most active, deepest, and got a Hood injunction....Grapes hood is Half Mexican, Hunnas hood (NG) is damn near all black. U kno the hunnas r goin hard when no mexican hood is active in they hood...thas sayin a lot in LA

[woobanga]

D HUNNTAS SHYT. MY CUZZIN WHOSE IN HIGH DESERT SAYS D GRAPES HAVE D HUNNTAS PC'ED UP. D GRAPES PUT IN WORK

[dubts]

The Hunnas R by far the most active, deepest, and got a Hood injunction....Grapes hood is Half Mexican, Hunnas hood (NG) is damn near all black. U kno the hunnas r goin hard when no mexican hood is active in they hood...thas sayin a lot in LA

yeah thats why the hunters and pjs cliqued up to go against grape right idiot? shut the fuck up wierdo, stay your country ass in the south and quit speakin on LA shit

[coastie]

The Hunnas R by far the most active, deepest, and got a Hood injunction....Grapes hood is Half Mexican, Hunnas hood (NG) is damn near all black. U kno the hunnas r goin hard when no mexican hood is active in they hood...thas sayin a lot in LA

yeah thats why the hunters and pjs cliqued up to go against grape right idiot? shut the fu-- up wierdo, stay your country ass in the south and quit speakin on LA shit

i have family from watts and the hunnas and pjays were cool with each other, they didnt just click up to war with grape they just got along and found a common enemy, the grapes. your a idiot man

[xxx]

The Hunnas R by far the most active, deepest, and got a Hood injunction....Grapes hood is Half Mexican, Hunnas hood (NG) is damn near all black. U kno the hunnas r goin hard when no mexican hood is active in they hood...thas sayin a lot in LA

There is a Mexican gang in BH's Block Boy Area called Via Loctes Watts or some shit like that

[xxx]

But yea, The Nickerson Gardens always rung louder then Jordn Downs.

The Bounty Hunters are the Heavy Weights in Watts. always been.

The Grapes were a gettalong gang for years, throughout the whole 70's up to 87 they got along with all Crips and only had one enemy, the Bounty Hunters.

While BH was surrounded by multiple enemies, Warring for Decades.


King T gave it up to the Nickerson Gardens back in 85/86 in one of his songs, becuase it was known back then that Bounty Hunters were shooting at Police.

The Jordan Downs didn't have that Notoriety to even speak on them like that.

They were still claiming e/s Watts Varrio Grape St pretending to be Cholos.........

[dubts]

But yea, The Nickerson Gardens always rung louder then Jordn Downs.

The Bounty Hunters are the Heavy Weights in Watts. always been.

The Grapes were a gettalong gang for years, throughout the whole 70's up to 87 they got along with all Crips and only had one enemy, the Bounty Hunters.

While BH was surrounded by multiple enemies, Warring for Decades.


King T gave it up to the Nickerson Gardens back in 85/86 in one of his songs, becuase it was known back then that Bounty Hunters were shooting at Police.

The Jordan Downs didn't have that Notoriety to even speak on them like that.

They were still claiming e/s Watts Varrio Grape St pretending to be Cholos.........

lol @ this clown quoting rappers

Watts is synonymous with the Grapes, Bloods were never a factor anywhere in LA in the 80s, they been abused throughout the years, the hunters actually became such less of a threat that the Grapes started killing PJs in the 80s

there is no gang nationwide that has had as much notoriety than the Grapes and there is no hood more notorious than Watts Los Angeles California.

[kmcox]

But yea, The Nickerson Gardens always rung louder then Jordn Downs.

The Bounty Hunters are the Heavy Weights in Watts. always been.

The Grapes were a gettalong gang for years, throughout the whole 70's up to 87 they got along with all Crips and only had one enemy, the Bounty Hunters.

While BH was surrounded by multiple enemies, Warring for Decades.


King T gave it up to the Nickerson Gardens back in 85/86 in one of his songs, becuase it was known back then that Bounty Hunters were shooting at Police.

The Jordan Downs didn't have that Notoriety to even speak on them like that.

They were still claiming e/s Watts Varrio Grape St pretending to be Cholos.........

lol @ this clown quoting rappers

Watts is synonymous with the Grapes, Bloods were never a factor anywhere in LA in the 80s, they been abused throughout the years, the hunters actually became such less of a threat that the Grapes started killing PJs in the 80s

there is no gang nationwide that has had as much notoriety than the Grapes and there is no hood more notorious than Watts Los Angeles California.

[active]

i want to ask somebody with knowledge about some some!!! og from wvg told me back in the days the blacks and raza from grape used to be one thing!!! and then they split in two factions crip and sur!!! can somebody let me know!!! thank you !!!

[Jinky08]

From Alonsos site:

In the beginning the neighborhood was called Watts Varrio Grape (WVG), which included both Mexican and Black members together. When the Mexicans aligned themselves with the Sureno 13 banner, the Mexican members changed their name to South Side Watts Varrio Grape Street 13 and the Black members went by East Side Watts Varrio Grape but by around 1986/87 the new Black members were known as East Side Grape Street Watts Baby Loc Crips. All new members after 1987 from the Jordan Downs projects went by this new name but some of the new members from the Anzacs, 95th, 97 Banderas Block, 105s, 107s and 112s clicks do not necessarily go by the name Baby Locs, but all the new members from the projects (103rd Street click) do, therefore new Black members do not claim WVG anymore, but some long time members of this neighborhood (pre-1987) still by habit say WVG and have WVG tattoos.

http://www.streetgangs.com/crips/grapestreet.html

[AllhoodPublications]

lol @ this clown quoting rappers

You mean like Tupac and Loose Cannon??

[kmcox]

to get back on the subject...Bounty Hunter Watts Bloods goes harder than Grapes

[dubts]

to get back on the subject...Bounty Hunter Watts Bloods goes harder than Grapes

says who? your gay ass from louisiana?

[dubts]

“Shortly before 2 a.m., a group of up to 70 cars that had been cruising just happened to stop there,” says Detective John Goodman of the LAPD’s Harbor Division. “There was some kind of confrontation, and there were a lot of shots fired. Brooks was shot and killed. A lot of people saw it. That may have started the escalation in the current violence.” Street rumors quickly circulate that the shooter was from Grape Street. Brooks, decked out in Blood red, had been with members of the PJ Crips, who have become strange gang fellows of late with the Bounty Hunters. Perhaps the most unusual result of the latest outbreak is that it has brought the Bounty Hunters, the city’s most notorious Blood gang, closer than ever to the PJ Crips of Imperial Courts, and that alliance against the Grape Street Crips is sending bewilderment throughout the black street-gang community. Nine miles away from Watts, in Hyde Park, a long way in gangland L.A., Kevin “Big Cat” Doucette, a notorious shot caller of the Rollin’ 60s Crips, is telling his cohorts about that distant gang war. “That’s about the craziest shit I ever heard,” says Big Cat, 45. “The PJs and the Bounty Hunters teaming up against Grape Street. Crips and Bloods teaming up to go at Crips.” Even law enforcement is surprised by the alliance. “The alliance doesn’t seem plausible or possible, but that’s what we’re hearing,” says Detective Dana Ellison of the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Century Station.

A week after Sexy Wayne was killed, Harrison, 19, who is not a Grape Street gang member, is gunned down on 102nd Street inside Jordan Downs. It’s on. The next day, the Imperial Courts project is shot up. Then the Nickersons gets sprayed

“You can tell the energy level is up in Grape Street,” says LaBarbera, a cool New Yorker straight outta Central Casting. “Guys are on guard duty. Trash cans are lined up at the entrance to the projects. Folks are ready to go. Ready to run into their apartment and get the guns.”
” He’s right, of course. It’s a rainy late night inside Jordan Downs on 102nd Street near an entrance to the projects off Juniper Street and 103rd, where two dumpsters the size of Escalades are placed. Young men and teenagers of the 700-unit project are indeed on the lookout for strangers while they smoke chronic and sip Olde English 800, still a favorite after all these years

Many PJ Crips and the Bounty Hunters lay most of the blame on the Grape Street gang, who they say have lost their leadership, which has cut loose a new generation of young gang members to go on shooting sprees“And that creates a domino effect that leads to murder and mayhem in the streets. Our race is in worse condition than we were before the ’65 riots.

In Imperial Courts, one lone, young PJ Crip, who won’t give even his nickname, asks, “What we suppose to do? Just let Grape Street shoot at us?”

PJ Crip "Cornbread" chimes in that he doesn’t feel safe in Jordan Downs.

Southeast Division, are involved in a shooting that kills Bounty Hunter Spencer "Fox" Johnson after, they say, he pointed an assault rifle at them near Bellhaven and 112th streets. Gang sources say Fox was on the lookout for a Grape Street attack at the time.

In the early-morning hours of May 9, another Bounty Hunter, Kemal Hutcherson, 24, is gunned down

http://www.laweekly.com/2005-07-14/news ... -in-watts/

[dubts]

Whiting was 32 and an original gangster in the Bounty Hunter Bloods. The Bounty Hunters control and terrorize Nickerson Gardens, the sprawling housing development in Watts, and use it as a base for a nationwide drug-trafficking network. Whiting, who was fresh from a long stretch in prison for armed robbery, was chatting about his new life as a civilian, when someone stuck an AK-47 out the window of a passing car and fired two rounds. One hit Whiting in the back, severing his spine and paralyzing him.

Early the next morning — Christmas morning — a Bounty Hunter named Antoine Staffer, a.k.a. Pig, left Nickerson Gardens, walked about a half mile to the edge of the dusty, treeless Jordan Downs housing project, strolled up to a car and shot the driver in the face. The victim was Brandon “B.L.” Bullard, a key player in the Grape Street Crips, the gang that controls Jordan Downs. Ten minutes later, a Bounty Hunter heading into Jordan Downs for a Christmas visit with cousins was ambushed and shot seven times. Two more Bounty Hunters were murdered in quick succession. The cycle of retribution — in the form of drive-bys with AK-47s, Uzis, MAC-10s and 9mm semi­automatic handguns — lasted six weeks, left 26 people wounded, nine dead, the local schools largely empty of students, and a large swath of Watts under siege.

“If you want to live in Jordan Downs you do not ask the housing authority or the city for permission, you ask the Grape Street gang,” says civil rights attorney Connie Rice. “When Latino families call the housing authorities to complain, the staff, the housing authorities call the Grape Street Crips.”
http://www.laweekly.com/2007-12-13/news ... preading/1



Bullard was known for taking care of people in the Downs. He gave them money and provided protection. He cut such a figure that when he was wounded by a rival gang three years ago, it sparked six weeks of tit-for-tat violence between the Bounty Hunters and the Grape Street Crips. Twenty-six people were wounded and nine died before the violence stopped.

This time, when news of his murder spread, police braced for the worst.

Within 36 hours of the Bullard killing, police responded to 10 different shootings in Watts — 17 people were wounded, four were killed. As the death toll started to mount, LAPD Chief William Bratton responded by pulling together an unusual meeting.

Thomas O'Brien, the United States Attorney for the Central District of California, was one of the people Bratton called. O'Brien said he sat at long table with people from the FBI, the Drug Enforcement Administration, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, and the Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

"Chief Bratton threw it out: Here's our problem, how are we going to fix this?" O'Brien said.

To understand just how revolutionary this is, you need to know that federal agents and local cops traditionally spend a lot of their time throwing elbows. Local cops see federal guys as condescending, telling them what to do and how to do it. So calling the feds in so early in the process was a bit of a departure.

"We were there to talk about the strategy long-term, how we could stop that kind of thing from happening again before it ends up in that kind of violent weekend," said FBI Assistant Director in Los Angeles Salvador Hernandez. "And that, while not unprecedented, was somewhat new to us."
http://www.streetgangs.com/topics/2008/ ... arget.html





the "Baghdad Strategy." It works like this: When authorities are powerless to stop the violence being committed in all directions by multiple terrorist factions, they fund one or more of the warring groups to buy a measure of peace. In exchange, the newfound allies are pretty much given free rein to do what they want on their own turf.
Strategy to reduce murder and mayhem in gang-infested areas of the city, using gang intervention workers, marginal gangsters and group's like Betty Day's Watts Gang Task Force to reduce the bloodshed among rival gangs.
heir aggressive tactics against drug dealers and other street gang thugs violated the secret "treaty" that gave the hoodlums the room to do their illegal business activities as long as they respected each other's turf.
http://ronkayela.com/2008/05/janice-the ... baghd.html

Specifically, Moreno and Garcia argue that Hahn was overly influenced by Betty Day, who is the president of the Watts Gang Task Force and has a close relationship with the councilwoman. Three of Day's children have been convicted of drug and gang crimes, and the officers believe Day plays an active role in the neighborhood gang.

The two officers went so far as to write a memo urging the department not to allow city officials, such as Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, to appear at public events with Day.

"It's absolutely ridiculous to have her anywhere near the mayor," Moreno said in an interview. "That's the main Tony Soprano of the whole neighborhood."


Crouch said that after the shootings, he contacted the Southwest and 77th police divisions and requested that they beef up patrols at several area schools and at all four Watts housing projects--Jordan Downs, Imperial Courts, Gonzac Village and Nickerson Gardens.
http://ourweekly.com/default.asp?source ... ly&he=.com




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why is it every time the Grapes are involved the whole city police department and the FBI have to step in to stop it?

why is the Grapes on the cities payroll because the city can't even stop them and has to resort to pay them?

close the fuckin thread its wrap, nobody in LA does it like this..........

[Babmuk]

yeah yea yea..bla bla bla..info from NEWSPAPER dated back to 2005
what kinda grape r u?lol

[dubts]

yeah yea yea..bla bla bla..info from NEWSPAPER dated back to 2005
what kinda grape r u?lol

none of these wanabes is gon respect my word, so i use shit from newspaper articles to get the point across, who the fuck are you faggot? probably some wierd ass geek from switzerland hoppin in the mix...
state who u is and where u from or shut the fuck up and kick rocks

[Babmuk]

none of these wanabes is gon respect my word, so i use shit from newspaper articles to get the point across, who the fu-- are you faggot? probably some wierd ass geek from switzerland hoppin in the mix...
state who u is and where u from or shut the fu-- up and kick rocks

first of all u r not from the hood,so don't blame any wannabe for not respecting what r u trying to say..
i am that i am,non of your buisness
Ever heard of Hizbollah that threw Haibars and KAtyushas on Haifa..that's where i'm from

i just dont get Y ppl r trying to pretend smt they r not

[353]

aint no put down on Grape St.
they been known and recognized as 1 of the major Crip hoods
but unless the Hunters got soft ,which is hard to believe
in my opinion them fools from the NG is damn near the hardest Blood gang in LA
let alone the hardest in Watts
times change so i cant say what the deal is in the last decade

[dubts]

none of these wanabes is gon respect my word, so i use shit from newspaper articles to get the point across, who the fu-- are you faggot? probably some wierd ass geek from switzerland hoppin in the mix...
state who u is and where u from or shut the fu-- up and kick rocks

first of all u r not from the hood,so don't blame any wannabe for not respecting what r u trying to say..
i am that i am,non of your buisness
Ever heard of Hizbollah that threw Haibars and KAtyushas on Haifa..that's where i'm from

i just dont get Y ppl r trying to pretend smt they r not

oh ok i see your a canadian, figures... NEXT!!!

[dubts]

aint no put down on Grape St.
they been known and recognized as 1 of the major Crip hoods
but unless the Hunters got soft ,which is hard to believe
in my opinion them fools from the NG is damn near the hardest Blood gang in LA
let alone the hardest in Watts
times change so i cant say what the deal is in the last decade

they might be the hardest blood gang but Grape street ain't bloods so thats the end of the debate

i would even debate them being the hardest blood gang these days, they havent been nothin within the last 10-15 years, right the hardest blood gang is a tie between Swans and Jungle Stones..... eastside Swans STAY in some shit...

[Carlmanner323]

D HUNNTAS SHYT. MY CUZZIN WHOSE IN HIGH DESERT SAYS D GRAPES HAVE D HUNNTAS PC'ED UP. D GRAPES PUT IN WORK

Lol. That nigga lied to you, the Grapes and Hunnas don't fuck with each other in the High Desert at all. They still pushin the issue in Victorville, Adelanto, Hesperia, Apple Valley, etc.

[Carlmanner323]

Fuck all them silly ass news articles. The media is known for puttin dubs on tens so fuck that shit. If you niggas really wanna know who is runnin Watts then go to the main source and thats the streets.

[woobanga]

NO NIGGA. D NIGGA TOLD ME ABOUT 40 BHB JUST HIT PC IN HIGH DESERT CECUZ OF GETTING ABUSED IN D YARD BY D GRAPES. DATS FACT!!!

[AllhoodPublications]

NO NIGGA. D NIGGA TOLD ME ABOUT 40 BHB JUST HIT PC IN HIGH DESERT CECUZ OF GETTING ABUSED IN D YARD BY D GRAPES. DATS FACT!!!

40 of them??

Thats hard to believe unless you are saying they are getting bussed there from other prisons..

Never will there be 40 dudes from the same set on one yard..

40 dudes from one gang will run any yard...

In order for 40 people from one gang to get rolled up the whole yard would have to be on their ass; no one hood can roll up 40 dudes from one set.

Especially if ones a crip hood and the other is a blood hood.. that would make their whole car look weak- the Swans, Villains, and Pueblos not helping their allies??? Am I missing something?

[woobanga]

NO NIGGA. D NIGGA TOLD ME ABOUT 40 BHB JUST HIT PC IN HIGH DESERT CECUZ OF GETTING ABUSED IN D YARD BY D GRAPES. DATS FACT!!!

40 of them??

Thats hard to believe unless you are saying they are getting bussed there from other prisons..

Never will there be 40 dudes from the same set on one yard..

40 dudes from one gang will run any yard...

In order for 40 people from one gang to get rolled up the whole yard would have to be on their ass; no one hood can roll up 40 dudes from one set.

Especially if ones a crip hood and the other is a blood hood.. that would make their whole car look weak- the Swans, Villains, and Pueblos not helping their allies??? Am I missing something?

WELL BTW KORKORAN N HIGH DESERT 40 HUNTAS GOT PC'D UP D GRAPES GOT DEM NIGGAS IN D HIT.