FIRST L.A. CHICANO HOOD to beef with BLACK HOOD(S)

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Unread post by youngwun » February 18th, 2007, 9:32 am

What about the 70's and Lueders Park niggas?

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Unread post by bgcasper » February 18th, 2007, 10:25 pm

youngwun wrote:What about the 70's and Lueders Park niggas?
what u mean ????70's and ludaz started to beef recently they was ridin together back in the days

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Unread post by youngwun » February 19th, 2007, 12:24 am

I said WHO started the beef? 70's or Lueders?

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Unread post by alexalonso » September 25th, 2007, 11:42 am

this is an intersting question that I think is difficult to answer, becasue everyone has "beef" at some time. But you ask, "which are the first neighborhoods to have a black/ brown beef that resulted in a string of murders?" I would agree with Rocsta, the Venice Shore Line Crips v. Culver City 13. I think this started in about 1993 or 1994, and they were killing each other.

If there is another two neighborhoods whose beef resulted in murders before 1993, let me know.

I recal that 18th Street and Rollin 20s had beef back in 1985, but is was squashed before anyone was killed, and although those beefs are important to note, the 1990s beef took it to another level.

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Unread post by MARTINEZ » September 26th, 2007, 3:35 pm

I know that CV LARGO 36 started beefing with MONA PARK COMPTON CRIP in the 1980's

heavy shit....

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Unread post by bgcasper » September 27th, 2007, 10:02 pm

[quote="MARTINEZ"]I know that CV LARGO 36 started beefing with MONA PARK COMPTON CRIP in the 1980's

heavy shit....[/quote]real shit mona and them still at it and grape at one point and it was gunplay
but they never wet racist knowin that 124 back them against largo they never did like tf
i would put tf as og race trippper but that came late in 94 they wasnt hittin nk and even share hood with both tree top and fruit town .still remember they had a black dude i saw with them often wearing their gang necklace the tf had that lil silver round medail back then

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Unread post by bgcasper » September 27th, 2007, 10:04 pm

douglas apartmen u could c both tf and bloods back then

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Unread post by AllhoodPublications » October 7th, 2007, 2:05 pm

Good ass question...

How do you know that was the first Black/Brown beef, and did you mean "OFFICIALLY" the first beef?

Cause Sotel was fighting Blacks way before I witnessed it with my own physical being in 1979.

Longos were the "FIRST" racist gang that I 'personally' knew off.. but that was late in the game..

CV155 was also the first gang that I 'personally' witnessed hating Crips and Bloods. That was in 1986.

1st Street East Coast would be late in the game in 'my' opinion..

Largos would be one of the most known for bodies dropping but I have no clue as to when that began or if they were the first to 'OFFICIALLY' become a Black on Brown war...

V13 vs VSLC I would think was late 80's because I recall them growing up together and were cool..

Now maybe Culver City vs VSLC may go back awhile mid 80s... possibly

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Unread post by Y.G. » October 8th, 2007, 1:43 am

AllhoodPublications wrote:Good ass question...

How do you know that was the first Black/Brown beef, and did you mean "OFFICIALLY" the first beef?

Cause Sotel was fighting Blacks way before I witnessed it with my own physical being in 1979.

Longos were the "FIRST" racist gang that I 'personally' knew off.. but that was late in the game..

CV155 was also the first gang that I 'personally' witnessed hating Crips and Bloods. That was in 1986.

1st Street East Coast would be late in the game in 'my' opinion..

Largos would be one of the most known for bodies dropping but I have no clue as to when that began or if they were the first to 'OFFICIALLY' become a Black on Brown war...

V13 vs VSLC I would think was late 80's because I recall them growing up together and were cool..

Now maybe Culver City vs VSLC may go back awhile mid 80s... possibly


YOUR RIGHT ABOUT THE CV 155 BECAUSE US THEM HAVE BEEN BEEFIN SINCE DAY ONE AND I BELIEVE THE SAME COULD BE SAID ABOUT PVCC AND CV 155.

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Unread post by bgcasper » October 8th, 2007, 4:48 am

[quote="Y.G."][quote="AllhoodPublications"]Good ass question...

How do you know that was the first Black/Brown beef, and did you mean "OFFICIALLY" the first beef?

Cause Sotel was fighting Blacks way before I witnessed it with my own physical being in 1979.

Longos were the "FIRST" racist gang that I 'personally' knew off.. but that was late in the game..

CV155 was also the first gang that I 'personally' witnessed hating Crips and Bloods. That was in 1986.

1st Street East Coast would be late in the game in 'my' opinion..

Largos would be one of the most known for bodies dropping but I have no clue as to when that began or if they were the first to 'OFFICIALLY' become a Black on Brown war...

V13 vs VSLC I would think was late 80's because I recall them growing up together and were cool..

Now maybe Culver City vs VSLC may go back awhile mid 80s... possibly[/quote]



YOUR RIGHT ABOUT THE CV 155 BECAUSE US THEM HAVE BEEN BEEFIN SINCE DAY ONE AND I BELIEVE THE SAME COULD BE SAID ABOUT PVCC AND CV 155.[/quote]the cv70 tls vs pvc was gunplay and no joke same clicc tls had an hard core beef with atf too also involving killings

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Unread post by xxx » October 8th, 2007, 2:24 pm

First Black & Chicano Gang War, with bodies on both sides, back and forth, i would say

1)South x Los & 112 Hoovers, but that wasnt racial, it was gang/drug related.

2)from an outsider looking in, 1st ECC didnt put up much a fight, so i wouldn't call that a War. Dont think these dudes were too battle tested, who did they beef with b4 the Drama?

3)The West L.A Wars (VSLc/V13/CxC) was all about Race Banging.

4)Coming from L.A, you here about it going down in Compton, but wasnt sure what sets at the time.

5) Long Beach, but that seemed more Gangs on Civilians.

6)Coming from L.A, you here about SGV Black gangs have issues with Chicanos, but those are there neighbors. So it looked gang related, not race, at the time.

7)Eighteens & Jungles, was more territorial, then race, at the beginning.

8) East Coasts & Florencia turned racial latter, the beef didnt start over race.

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Unread post by AllhoodPublications » October 8th, 2007, 4:23 pm

xxx wrote:First Black & Chicano Gang War, with bodies on both sides, back and forth, i would say

1)South x Los & 112 Hoovers, but that wasnt racial, it was gang/drug related.
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When was this... 1992?

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Unread post by MARTINEZ » October 9th, 2007, 2:27 pm

AllhoodPublications wrote:
xxx wrote:First Black & Chicano Gang War, with bodies on both sides, back and forth, i would say

1)South x Los & 112 Hoovers, but that wasnt racial, it was gang/drug related.
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When was this... 1992?
I repeat

I know that CV LARGO 36 started beefing with MONA PARK COMPTON CRIP in the 1980's

heavy shit....

I know there was an rip on the CVL side,

with all the Compton natives you'd figure we can get a Yeah or Nay ....

I'm sticking to my guns...

1st Brown vs Black beef was CVL vs MPCC.

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Unread post by AllhoodPublications » October 9th, 2007, 3:15 pm

MARTINEZ wrote: with all the Compton natives you'd figure we can get a Yeah or Nay ....
Amen...
I'm sticking to my guns...

1st Brown vs Black beef was CVL vs MPCC.
Alrata...

Technically... Sotel were beefing with all Crips in the 70's... alot of rumbles in 79 and 7 years earlier they were beefing with Blacks when my elderly sibling attended...

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Unread post by AllhoodPublications » October 9th, 2007, 3:17 pm

^ BUT no bodies were dropped... just stabbings...

You posed a good question though... i'd like to get a definitive answer.. until then.. you answer holds up..

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Unread post by bgcasper » October 10th, 2007, 2:35 am

we had a user from largo here bumper
an og he could have cleared things up cause he is from the largo and from the old school ....me personnaly i clearly heard about that mona largo shiit
even with grape street and it was gunplay in the 80's

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Unread post by AztecNinja » March 10th, 2008, 4:44 pm

East Side Primera Flats AV versus ECC1st. This goes back to the mid 80's.

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Unread post by alexalonso » March 20th, 2008, 12:24 pm

this string is getting a bit confusing because we are talking about all levels of beef from disagreements, fights, stabings to murders. As I stated earlier, I believe that the first black/brown beef that resulted in murder would be the Shore Lines and Culver City Boys in 1993/94.

Where the 112 Hoovers and South Los on that level in 1992?

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Unread post by xxx » March 20th, 2008, 9:29 pm

South x Los / Hoover beef was way b4 the Sholines/Culver City Boys...............

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Unread post by alexalonso » March 20th, 2008, 10:53 pm

xxx wrote:South x Los / Hoover beef was way b4 the Sholines/Culver City Boys...............
who was killed in that beef? There are many black/brown beefs that go back to the 1980s, but I very much doubt that the Hoovers and SoLos was murdering each other in that beef.

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Unread post by xxx » March 21st, 2008, 5:31 pm

Are you serious?

That whole area went up in flames

Imperial/110th
Western/Normandie

Original 112 Hoover Hood.

South x Los pushed those dudes out, across 110th with the 107s.

1989/90.

why u think niggas was always saying South x Los took 11-2 Hood?

The Area got so fucked up neither gang could hang openly.

Now they got new shit popping up

PTGC 112 Hk DLB k
s/s Juniour Mafia 13

filled the void over there.................

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Unread post by xxx » March 21st, 2008, 5:32 pm

xxx wrote:Are you serious?

That whole area went up in flames

Imperial/110th
Vermont/Normandie

Original 112 Hoover Hood.

South x Los pushed those dudes out, across 110th with the 107s.

1989/90.

why u think niggas was always saying South x Los took 11-2 Hood?

The Area got so #%@& up neither gang could hang openly.

Now they got new shit popping up

PTGC 112 Hk DLB k
s/s Juniour Mafia 13

filled the void over there.................

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Unread post by alexalonso » March 23rd, 2008, 3:48 pm

xxx wrote:Are you serious?

That whole area went up in flames

Imperial/110th
Western/Normandie

Original 112 Hoover Hood.

South x Los pushed those dudes out, across 110th with the 107s.

1989/90.

why u think niggas was always saying South x Los took 11-2 Hood?

The Area got so #%@& up neither gang could hang openly.

Now they got new shit popping up

PTGC 112 Hk DLB k
s/s Juniour Mafia 13

filled the void over there.................
Simple question then. Can you name one RIP from the So'Los v. Hoover 112 fued that predated 1993/4?

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Unread post by xxx » March 24th, 2008, 5:36 pm

Bugzy South x Los 1990, thats what kicked it off, but that in your files

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Unread post by Young Nile » March 24th, 2008, 11:08 pm

alexalonso wrote:
xxx wrote:South x Los / Hoover beef was way b4 the Sholines/Culver City Boys...............
who was killed in that beef? There are many black/brown beefs that go back to the 1980s, but I very much doubt that the Hoovers and SoLos was murdering each other in that beef.
SOxLOS and Hoover war was spoken about all around town... LiL dude in the wheelchair from SoxLos was well known for drawing down on any nigga he thought was from Hoover and this is going back.... I think the Hoovers chip'd dude finaly...

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Unread post by Y.G. » March 27th, 2008, 12:07 am

alexalonso wrote:
xxx wrote:South x Los / Hoover beef was way b4 the Sholines/Culver City Boys...............
who was killed in that beef? There are many black/brown beefs that go back to the 1980s, but I very much doubt that the Hoovers and SoLos was murdering each other in that beef.


DAMN THE HOMIES UNCLE WHO IS A "G" FROM 107 HOOVER SAID THEY BEEN BEEFIN SINCE THEY WERE YOUNGSTERS BUT I WILL ASK HIM AROUND WHAT YEAR IT REALLY POPPED OFF. EVEN BEFORE THE BEEF HE SAID THEY NEVER GOT ALONG AND THERE WAS ALWAYS TENSION BETWEEN THE TWO.

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Unread post by xxx » March 27th, 2008, 10:26 am

Yea, they been Beefing for years, the killing didnt come into play until 89/90, that i know of.

This 89/90 killing kicked off the Killing War, where South x Los gain ground and pushed the 11-2s out their shit.

the 11-2's & 107's had to shared Hoods after that. ( Budlong & 110/109/108/107 etc.. until u got to BL & 102nd)

I went to school over there, i had a little partner from South x Los named Midget.

The Hoovers socked dude up at school, this was in 86'

Now neither South x Los or 11'2s are on deck over there.

Its some new wave shit called

Pimp Town Gangstas 112th.st

s/s Junior Mafia 13

they filled the Void that was left by HCG & SxL...................

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Unread post by xxx » March 27th, 2008, 10:35 am

South x Los ~ Hoovers
Culver City Boys ~ Shorelines
Florencias ~ East Coasts
Eighteens ~ B.P.S
Longos ~ Insanes
T Flats ~ Fruit Towns
cv 70's ~ ATF
cv 70's ~ LP Pirus
DesR ~ Du Rocks
V.38st ~ Pueblos
s/s NHW ~ e/s NHW
Cv155 ~ CP Pirus
Cv L36 ~ Monas
VP Loco's ~ VP Crips
HOB 13 ~ 43Gc
e/s 13 ~ 30 Pirus
Wilmas ~ WF Pirus

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xxx wrote: s/s NHW ~ e/s NHW
???

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xxx wrote: s/s NHW ~ e/s NHW
???
nut hood watts have a varrio with the same name like many watts gang
as u understood the ss be the surenos the es are the crips and aparently acording to mangler statement they dont get along no more
but they use to

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