Varrio Sur 13 - HOLLYWOOD STONERS Click (HWS)
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Varrio Sur 13 - HOLLYWOOD STONERS Click (HWS)
Anybody heard of the WS SURENOS 13 HWS.They are in Hollywood Like by Sunset or Santa Monica Blvd.They have one clicka, the Hollywood Stoners.The homie in HW High told me they were like 4 deep in there.Any one got any knowlege on these foos?They dont get along with 18, MS, R13, TMC, LML and more Hollywood neighborhoods.They strike up alot all over Hollywood so I dont know were they at exactly, but they are around.And also how old is JMK,is it an oldschool crew??Is it a neighborhood already??I remember people thinking that JMK stood for JR MARA, but those foos were like chale.It stands for Just Marijuanos.
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SUR the gang Ive also heard of in South Central. The SUR was in LHTS beefing with LHTS but they gone now. There was another SUR gang tryna set up shop in China Town back then but got dropped with the quickness by OLBz. I dont know if all the SUR gangs are connected, can anybody confirm this? And to the fools who think Im talking about eses in general nahhhh im talking about the gang actually named SUR.
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Nah I dont think they are future MS.Maybe some wil end up joining MS.But JMK is probably gonna try to be a real varrio.Like pinochio trying to be real boy.Its been a minute since I been to that side though, things might have changed.As for LMC, I knew about them cuz a few went to Marshall dont know much about them though.I thought they were with OBS.What 18st click are you speaking of??And my name means Wolf in Nahuatl.The old Aztec language.Orale.NikexCortez wrote:I think JMK are future MS.
A CUETLACHTLI. whats your sn mean? haha
So you around the HollyWood area? What you know about the LMC aka future 18 st there?
I hadn't seen JMK around that area. But I have seen w/s LTOs, and C14 in that area. I know what street you're talking about. The one south of Romaine, and West of Alexandria. I don't know who LTOs are.562_HOMIE wrote:A couple of years back on Mariposa-dead end street near Santa Monica there use to be alot of JMK tags and I use to see tons of vatos controlling that street. I don't know where they were from because I assumed JMK was a taging crew.
Also see some R13s hit up west of Normandie.
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Re: SUR 13 HOLLYWOOD STONERS
Ive been wondering where V.Sur13 came from. Ive also seen their hitups in Hollywood alot by Gower and Sunset. And also in North Hollywood off of Magnolia. It seems that their trying to setup in NHLS Hood.
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Ive seen a lot of SUR 13 tags between manchester and Imperial on normandie and a lot around century and hoover.
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must be different ones cuz I was in hwood and over there on normandie and manchester and hoover all through out the 80-'s to century this last week, and I seen both V sur 13 hitups.
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In 2008 a Varrio Sur member, JOSHUA "Blackie" JONES was convicted of killing a MS member on Santa Monica Blvd in Hollywood.
INTRODUCTION
A jury found defendant and appellant Joshua C. Jones guilty of first degree murder with gun and gang enhancements. The jury found his codefendant Luis Cortez guilty of second degree murder with gun and gang enhancements. On appeal, Jones contends that the trial court abused its discretion by denying his challenges for cause; that his trial counsel provided ineffective assistance; that the true finding on the gang enhancement must be reversed; and that there was insufficient evidence of the gun-enhancement allegation.
Cortez separately contends that the trial court erred by denying his Penal Code section 1118.11 motion, brought on the ground there was insufficient evidence he aided and abetted the murder. Cortez also contends that the jury was misinstructed on aiding and abetting and that there was an error in the sentence imposed.
We hold that Jones's and Cortez's sentences must be corrected, but we otherwise affirm the judgment.
FACTUAL AND PROCEDURAL BACKGROUND
I. Factual background.
A. The murder of Christian Garcia (Christian) on October 23, 2008.
Xochitl Garcia (no relation to the victim) and Anai Quintana were at the corner of Santa Monica Boulevard and St. Andrews Place when they saw Jones and Cortez2 ride by on bikes. Quintana and Garcia knew Jones, "Blackie," from school. Five to ten minutes after first seeing the boys, Quintana and Garcia saw them again, but this time Jones and Cortez were on foot, running. Garcia thought that Jones was trying to hide a long gun in his jeans. Quintana noticed that Jones was trying to hide something long in his pants.3
Wondering what had happened, Quintana and Garcia went to Western and Santa Monica, where the bikes Jones and Cortez had been riding were on the ground. Christian4 was on the ground, dead from a single gunshot to the chest.
Video surveillance from stores shows Cortez and Jones riding their bicycles on a sidewalk. They stopped their bikes and got off them as Christian approached them. Christian grabbed one of the bikes, and Jones and Cortez backed away, out of the range of the camera. Christian took a few steps towards them, but then he fell, apparently shot.
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I think they write Varrio Sur Locos or SL sometimes.youngwun wrote:I've seen SUR 13 write all over the place in that area of Hollywood. They funk with White Fence, 18 Street and R13.