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Discuss Hispanic gangs, Southsiders, Sureños in LOS ANGELES COUNTY ONLY. There are four general geographic categories Hispanic gangs fall into for LA.
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Unread post by Lonewolf » August 4th, 2004, 9:34 pm

This take is from a post from the Homeboy GIBBY on MAY 11, 2004.
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~A HISTORY OF THE BARRIO W x F

In the 20s, Boyle Heights was populated by Anglos, Armenians, Jews, Italians and Japanese. Many new Mexican immigrants migrated to California and some of them found their way into communities like Boyle Heights which is in East Los Angeles. The Mexican section of the Boyle Heights, which was very small, was bounded by 4th Street to the north, Whittier Blvd to the south, Euclid Ave to the west and Lorena St to the east. It was a very close knit community. Everybody knew each other from the neighborhood and almost every Mexican family attended the local catholic church which was called La Purissima. La Purissima Church was the heart and focus point of the community. It not only served as a spiritual center but as a social center as well. The leaders of the Church sponsored an athletic club to foster brotherhood and friendship among the Mexican/Chicano minority members within the community.

During the 1920s and 30s there was a lot of racism and violence towards Chicanos and Mexican immigrants in the Boyle Heights area. School aged children were regularly harassed and bullied by members of the larger ethnic groups. Working men did not have the ability to defend their children while away from the home and most Police at the time did not care what happened to "lil Mexican kids". The younger boys in the community decided to form a self protection group which would serve as escorts to and from school for their younger brothers and sisters. This group became known as White Fence or The Fence . The name had a dual meaning. Many of the houses in the "Mexican" section of Boyle Heights had White picket Fences along the front portions of homes and walkways plus the City of Los Angles erected a long row of White Fences along Whittier Blvd. Also a Fence is both symbolic and practical as a means of self protection. Another name that was used drung this time was the Comandos.

White Fence began to become a presence on the street corners of Boyle Heights. There were many clashes and bloodshed through out the streets of Boyle Heights during these times. The original group or "OGs" were very successful in assuring that no children would become victims of random acts of violence at the hands of other ethnic groups. As time passed they began to rival with other chicano groups that sprouted up in various parts of Los Angeles. Some of the other "clubs" had names like Alpine St, East Side Clover, Macy St, Primer Flats, Clantone St, Diamond St, and EL Hoyo Maravilla.

During the next couple of years White Fence slowly moved from self protection group, to aggressive barrio gang. By 1939 The Los Angeles Times was writing articles about the "White Fence Gang" which murdered 2 males and left their bodies along Whittier Blvd. White Fence was one of the barrios in Los Angeles to actively participate in the Zoot Suit Riots and target marines and sailors that invaded the barrios to victimize "Mexicans " in "Zoot Suits" who were deemed foreigners and unpatriotic. This was from 1942-43. White Fence is still a very active barrio and is well respected in the streets and prison system. Many things have changed in the neighborhood since the early days in the 1920s till now. The neighborhood, WF, has been featured in many movies, books, documentaries, videos etc. Much of the modern "gangster style" (Dress, Graffiti, Slang, Style) originated in the White Fence barrio. White Fence has other clicks in Hollywood, Bell Gardens, Alhambra, San Gabriel Valley, Las Vegas, El Paso and Florida. I was a very active member of White Fence The Hole Locos during the late 80s and early 90s. I believe the initial intentions were a very positive and necessary move. I am not attempting to glamorize the hood or gangbanging but present an accurate picture of real and true barrio history.

LOCATION :

Eastern Border: Indiana St
Southern Border Between Euclid and Indiana: Atlantic St
Southern Border Between Euclid and Soto: 7th ST
Western Border: Boyle St
Northern Border Between Euclid and Soto: 6th St
Northern Border Between Euclid and Indiana: 4th/3rd St

THE BEGINNING

La Purissima Crowd 1920s
White Fence 1930s
White Fence Monsters 1940s
White Fence Cherries 1940s-50s
White Fence Midgets 1950s
White Fence Termites 1960s
White Fence Pewees 1960s
White Fence Spiders 1960s-Present
White Fence Monstro Locos 1960s
White Fence Tiny Monsters 1970s
White Fence The Hole 1970s-Present
White Fence The Hole Locos 1980s-Present
White Fence Tiny Locos 1980s-Present
White Fence Lil Spiders 1980s (turned Spiders)
White Fence Malos 1990s-Present
White Fence Alley Locos 1990s-Present
White Fence The Zone 1990s-present
White Fence CDKs 2000s -Present

HISTORICAL ENEMIES

East Side Hoods: Varrio Nuevo Estrada (VNE), LiL Valley, Primera Flats, Cuatro Flats, East La 13, esTMC, 3rd St, Vickys Town, Hoyo Maravilla, Marianna Maravilla, MCF, KAM13, Opal St, Evergreen

West Side Hoods: 18st, wsRockwood, Satanas, wsDrifters, wsTemple St, wsTMC, wsAP, wsLa Mirada Ls, wsMS, wsJefrox, wsRebels13, wsC14st

~x W E S T x S I D E x W H I T E x F E N C E x~

The tinies moved from the Eastside to the Westside and WS started between 74 and 76. The Westside Tinies hung in Tiny Alley near Echo Park and also a tall hill in an industrial area that reminded them of the Eastside's Blueberry Hill which the Westside named (their new hill) Blueberry Hill also. The locos came out of this and spread to Hollywood.

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Unread post by creep alien » August 5th, 2004, 3:16 am

i sent to alonso some cool pictures about wf taken from the book gangs and their tattoos..
i hope he'll put in the wf section

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Unread post by Lonewolf » August 5th, 2004, 5:59 pm

Check out a few flickas Alonso took of the ESxWF at:
http://www.streetgangs.com/hispanic/whitefencebh.html

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Unread post by Lonewolf » August 9th, 2004, 5:46 pm

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 9:01 am Post subject: Re: White Fence
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willihen wrote:
Could someone give boundaries for White Fence?

GIBBY wrote:
LOCATION :

Eastern Border: Indiana St
Southern Border Between Euclid and Indiana: Atlantic St
Southern Border Between Euclid and Soto: 7th ST
Western Border: SOTO ST
Northern Border Between Euclid and Soto: 6th St
Northern Border Between Euclid and Indiana: 4th/3rd St

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Unread post by Kemosave » December 14th, 2004, 7:50 pm

Gibby got a lot right. He's off on a few points but it's not up to me to set him straight. Peace.

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Unread post by Lonewolf » December 14th, 2004, 9:28 pm

Kemosave wrote:Gibby got a lot right. He's off on a few points but it's not up to me to set him straight. Peace.
kIMO, since when did you become an expert on somebody else's hood?
Maybe I came in late into the game on this site and I ain't read everything concerning you (forgive me sir), but I thought that you were into Theology & Philosophy, correct me if i'm wrong will ya'

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Unread post by Kemosave » December 14th, 2004, 10:25 pm

Since I lived 24/7 with ex-og's from real hoods in my pursuit of truth and God's reality as I progressed innocently through my degree programs with honors while working full time in positions of progressive responsibilty. Peace and God bless.

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Unread post by GIBBY » January 4th, 2005, 2:11 pm

Kemosave wrote:Gibby got a lot right. He's off on a few points but it's not up to me to set him straight. Peace.


So where am I off???????

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Unread post by chini » January 18th, 2005, 8:42 pm

nice history lesson Gibby. now if I can persuade my homegirl to do the same for Diamond. thats some good inspiration.

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Unread post by Lonewolf » July 19th, 2005, 5:55 pm

Q-Vole GIBBY. Ey ese, I got the following info from that book I told you about. Don't know if its of any real accuracy, but just throwing it to try sparking off a continuation on your Varrio history. INTERESTED...

WF ORIGINALS 1944
WF MONSTERS 1946
WF CHERRIES 1947
WF TINIES 1949
WF SPIDERS 1953
WF MIDGETS 1957
WF PEEWEES 1960
WF LOS TERMITES 1964
WF LIL CHERRIES 1964
WF LIL MONSTROS 1968
WF LIL TERMITES 1972
WF LOCOS 1973
WF LIL SPIDERS 1974
WF WINITOS 1974

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Unread post by GIBBY » July 23rd, 2005, 11:21 am

lonewolf wrote:Q-Vole GIBBY. Ey ese, I got the following info from that book I told you about. Don't know if its of any real accuracy, but just throwing it to try sparking off a continuation on your Varrio history. INTERESTED...

WF ORIGINALS 1944
WF MONSTERS 1946
WF CHERRIES 1947
WF TINIES 1949
WF SPIDERS 1953
WF MIDGETS 1957
WF PEEWEES 1960
WF LOS TERMITES 1964
WF LIL CHERRIES 1964
WF LIL MONSTROS 1968
WF LIL TERMITES 1972
WF LOCOS 1973
WF LIL SPIDERS 1974
WF WINITOS 1974


Lil Spiders came out in 89 not 74
No Winitos. Before forming the WF Tiny Locos those youngsters claimed Winos13. That was in the mid 80s though.
They left out Monstro Locos,The Hill,The Hole Locos,Malos, Alley Locos.
The dates are wrong too

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Unread post by Lonewolf » July 23rd, 2005, 10:46 pm

Orale, esta firme vato.

Can you continue on with the historia on the expansion to the West Side?

The WF West Siders from the time of the mid-70's, started off an expansion trend by some East Side Varrios such as VKKR & ALCP,
therefore I'm interested in that time period.

I never asked those vatos from LiL West Side, if they were in any way affiliated with "LES". Sure wish I could go back in time, If I only knew then.

This was a period when West Siders were also trying to establish on the East Side of the river, but with the exception of a few like WF & 18ST, most others failed.

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Unread post by GIBBY » July 25th, 2005, 2:29 pm

I dont know all the details on how West Side White Fence started. From what I do know it was started by the Tinies clicka from the East Side which some moved to Echo Park bewteen 74-76. The were around where WS Crazys up off Alvarado. Im not sure when they moved to East Hollywood but it was by 80 for sure. I knew a couple vets from the WS but havent seen any of them in years. I actually seen a couple vatos a lil older than me from the WS this weekend and if I run into them agin Ill try to get the scoop

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Unread post by youngwun » April 18th, 2006, 2:45 pm

W/S WF LOKOS in HOLLYWOOD always fued with SUR13.

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Unread post by GIBBY » April 27th, 2006, 12:05 pm

youngwun wrote:W/S WF LOKOS in HOLLYWOOD always fued with SUR13.


???

What are you talking about???

WF IS SUR

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Unread post by Silencioso » April 27th, 2006, 2:11 pm

I think he means a local gang that was just called Sur 13. There've been a couple of those down through the years.

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Unread post by youngwun » April 29th, 2006, 1:36 pm

Yep, thats what I mean. SUR13 is a gang in Hollywood thats located right by WF & LMLS. They are always crossing eachother out, SUR13 & WF that is. I've seen "Fuck Surdogs" numerous times in WF hood.

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Unread post by MiChuhSuh » April 30th, 2006, 4:43 pm

lol thati's so weird...

that's like if TTP tagged NHP saying "fu-- dirunapps" wtf lol

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Unread post by youngwun » May 5th, 2006, 10:43 pm

EVN - I'm just me... wrote:lol thati's so weird...

that's like if TTP tagged NHP saying "fu-- dirunapps" wtf lol


It's not quite the same. I mean, they are obviously refrencing the gang. Not as extreme as your example haha.

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Unread post by Lonewolf » November 22nd, 2006, 4:27 pm

Question?

What (if any) Varrios have been kick started or sprung out from WF :?:

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Unread post by stamps » January 10th, 2007, 8:07 pm

White Fence, Early 1970's.

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Unread post by stamps » January 10th, 2007, 8:08 pm

Lonewolf wrote:Check out a few flickas Alonso took of the ESxWF at:
http://www.streetgangs.com/hispanic/whitefencebh.html


I know this is an old post..but I took most of those pics.

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Unread post by Lonewolf » January 11th, 2007, 4:33 pm

stamps wrote:
Lonewolf wrote:Check out a few flickas Alonso took of the ESxWF at:
http://www.streetgangs.com/hispanic/whitefencebh.html


I know this is an old post..but I took most of those pics.


You from W'Fence STAMPS?

That last one you posted up here is clean holmes.

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Unread post by stamps » January 11th, 2007, 6:42 pm

Lonewolf wrote:
stamps wrote:
Lonewolf wrote:Check out a few flickas Alonso took of the ESxWF at:
http://www.streetgangs.com/hispanic/whitefencebh.html


I know this is an old post..but I took most of those pics.


You from W'Fence STAMPS?

That last one you posted up here is clean holmes.


No, I'm not,,but I came across some cool oldie pics from several Hispanic hoods..the ones AAA has posted on this site,,most I took..this one from '70 I came across...Sh-t I was an infant when that pic was taken..LOL

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Unread post by stamps » January 11th, 2007, 7:11 pm

Aright,,cool..u can see all those pics under inactive barrios thread. There's a direct link.

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Unread post by GIBBY » January 12th, 2007, 12:50 pm

My social club...1941 Boyle Heights, Southern Califas

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Unread post by stamps » January 12th, 2007, 8:41 pm

That's phuckin cool! The dude on the bottom left looks like the shot caller! LOL!!

Damn,,times have changed..

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Unread post by Lonewolf » January 13th, 2007, 4:31 pm

Q'Vole Gibster, que rollo con usted? Q'Ondas> le vas a caer a nuestro
nuevo chante coming up sooner than later O'Que? Ya sabe, usted es
de la mesa redonda >> reserved V.I.P. . . w/send you a rocket later.

~" W E - D O N ' T - S T O P - 'T I L - W E - D R O P ! "~

Ey STAMPS, did you sent me some flickas previously?
I got some flickas that I failed to initial with the sender . . .
Anyhows, I would like to give credit where credit is due, so
if you did >> refresh my circuits . . . Orale, I appreciate. LW!

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Unread post by GIBBY » January 16th, 2007, 12:25 pm

Lonewolf wrote:Q'Vole Gibster, que rollo con usted? Q'Ondas> le vas a caer a nuestro
nuevo chante coming up sooner than later O'Que? Ya sabe, usted es
de la mesa redonda >> reserved V.I.P. . . w/send you a rocket later.

~" W E - D O N ' T - S T O P - 'T I L - W E - D R O P ! "~

Ey STAMPS, did you sent me some flickas previously?
I got some flickas that I failed to initial with the sender . . .
Anyhows, I would like to give credit where credit is due, so
if you did >> refresh my circuits . . . Orale, I appreciate. LW!


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