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The AVENUES & LA EME (Mexican Mafia)
By KENNETH OFGANG, Staff Writer
The Court of Appeal for this district has affirmed the murder convictions of a gang leader, based on testimony that he ordered the killing of one of his fellow gang members and drove the getaway car following the murder of another.
Javier Medina Marquez, identified in court as a member of the Avenues gang as well as the Mexican Mafia, is serving life-without-parole sentences for the killings of Allan Downey and Randy Morales, with witness murder and multiple murder special circumstances.
In 1995, Los Angeles police investigating the deaths of Sergio and Herman Sanchez, who were brothers and members of the rival Highland Park gang, spoke to Morales, an Avenues member in juvenile hall. Morales identified Marquez as the killer.
Morales, age 16, was killed on the night of Oct. 5, 1996 after attending a party near a prominent Avenues location.
Marquez was acquitted of the Sanchez murders in 1998. He was charged with the Morales murder along with fellow gang members George Vidales and Gerardo Reyes.
After two hung juries, prosecutors entered into a plea agreement with Vidales, who testified against Reyes and Marquez at the third trial.
Vidales testified that he had been approached at the party by Reyes and Vince Caldera, another Avenues-Mexican Mafia individual, who explained that Marquez wanted Morales killed before he could testify about the Sanchez murders. Vidales said the pair asked him to help lure Morales away by promising to take Morales to pick up a handgun Vidales had borrowed from him.
Morales left in a van with Vidales, Reyes and Caldera, Vidales said, and the group was later joined by Marvin Ponce, another Avenues member, before Vidales brought the van to a stop on a secluded back street, and watched Reyes shoot Morales in the head.
Reyes and Marquez were found guilty of the Morales murder. Reyes’ conviction was affirmed by Div. Eight in July of this year.
Marquez was also found guilty of killing Downey, apparently because Downey was thought to be withholding drug money from the Mexican Mafia.
Downey was shot three times as he drove along Eagle Rock Blvd. during early morning hours in the summer of 1995. A witness identified Marquez as the driver of the vehicle from which the shots were fired.
Another witness testified that Richie Aguirre, a fellow gang member and brother of a drug dealer Downey allegedly worked for, admitted being the shooter and said that Marquez was the driver.
On appeal, Marquez argued that Aguirre’s statement implicating him as the driver was testimonial hearsay and should have been excluded under the Evidence Code and/or the Confrontation Clause.
Presiding Justice Candace Cooper, however, in her unpublished opinion for Div. Eight, said the hearsay statement was not “testimonial”—and thus its admission did not violate the Confrontation Clause—because it was not made to a government agent.
Nor, Cooper said, was the statement inadmissible under state law, since the declaration-against-interest exception applied to Aguirre’s statement implicating both himself and the defendant.
Aguirre, the jurist noted, “did not attempt to shift blame to appellant or diminish his role at appellant’s expense; and in fact, he emphasized appellant’s relatively minor role as simply the getaway driver.”
Any error, she added, was harmless because the statement it was duplicative of other evidence, including the eyewitness identification of Marquez as the driver and testimony regarding his affiliation with the Mexican Mafia and the reason the organization wanted Downey dead.
Cooper also rejected the defense contention that Morales’ statement implicating Marquez in the killing of the Sanchez brothers was testimonial hearsay. The jurist agreed with the trial judge, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Larry Fidler, that the statement, having been admitted to show the motive for Morales’ murder rather than its truth, was not hearsay.
Also rejected was the argument that Vidales’ testimony was insufficiently corroborated to be admitted under the accomplice rule. The presiding justice cited evidence that gang members regarded Morales as a “rat;” that the Mexican Mafia usually kills such persons; that Marquez had access to information about Morales as a result of discovery that had been turned over to the defense in connection with the Sanchez murders; and that Morales’ murder was conducted in the manner of a Mexican Mafia “hit,” namely by having someone the victim trusted lure him to a secluded spot.
The case is People v. Marquez, B193733.
The Court of Appeal for this district has affirmed the murder convictions of a gang leader, based on testimony that he ordered the killing of one of his fellow gang members and drove the getaway car following the murder of another.
Javier Medina Marquez, identified in court as a member of the Avenues gang as well as the Mexican Mafia, is serving life-without-parole sentences for the killings of Allan Downey and Randy Morales, with witness murder and multiple murder special circumstances.
In 1995, Los Angeles police investigating the deaths of Sergio and Herman Sanchez, who were brothers and members of the rival Highland Park gang, spoke to Morales, an Avenues member in juvenile hall. Morales identified Marquez as the killer.
Morales, age 16, was killed on the night of Oct. 5, 1996 after attending a party near a prominent Avenues location.
Marquez was acquitted of the Sanchez murders in 1998. He was charged with the Morales murder along with fellow gang members George Vidales and Gerardo Reyes.
After two hung juries, prosecutors entered into a plea agreement with Vidales, who testified against Reyes and Marquez at the third trial.
Vidales testified that he had been approached at the party by Reyes and Vince Caldera, another Avenues-Mexican Mafia individual, who explained that Marquez wanted Morales killed before he could testify about the Sanchez murders. Vidales said the pair asked him to help lure Morales away by promising to take Morales to pick up a handgun Vidales had borrowed from him.
Morales left in a van with Vidales, Reyes and Caldera, Vidales said, and the group was later joined by Marvin Ponce, another Avenues member, before Vidales brought the van to a stop on a secluded back street, and watched Reyes shoot Morales in the head.
Reyes and Marquez were found guilty of the Morales murder. Reyes’ conviction was affirmed by Div. Eight in July of this year.
Marquez was also found guilty of killing Downey, apparently because Downey was thought to be withholding drug money from the Mexican Mafia.
Downey was shot three times as he drove along Eagle Rock Blvd. during early morning hours in the summer of 1995. A witness identified Marquez as the driver of the vehicle from which the shots were fired.
Another witness testified that Richie Aguirre, a fellow gang member and brother of a drug dealer Downey allegedly worked for, admitted being the shooter and said that Marquez was the driver.
On appeal, Marquez argued that Aguirre’s statement implicating him as the driver was testimonial hearsay and should have been excluded under the Evidence Code and/or the Confrontation Clause.
Presiding Justice Candace Cooper, however, in her unpublished opinion for Div. Eight, said the hearsay statement was not “testimonial”—and thus its admission did not violate the Confrontation Clause—because it was not made to a government agent.
Nor, Cooper said, was the statement inadmissible under state law, since the declaration-against-interest exception applied to Aguirre’s statement implicating both himself and the defendant.
Aguirre, the jurist noted, “did not attempt to shift blame to appellant or diminish his role at appellant’s expense; and in fact, he emphasized appellant’s relatively minor role as simply the getaway driver.”
Any error, she added, was harmless because the statement it was duplicative of other evidence, including the eyewitness identification of Marquez as the driver and testimony regarding his affiliation with the Mexican Mafia and the reason the organization wanted Downey dead.
Cooper also rejected the defense contention that Morales’ statement implicating Marquez in the killing of the Sanchez brothers was testimonial hearsay. The jurist agreed with the trial judge, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Larry Fidler, that the statement, having been admitted to show the motive for Morales’ murder rather than its truth, was not hearsay.
Also rejected was the argument that Vidales’ testimony was insufficiently corroborated to be admitted under the accomplice rule. The presiding justice cited evidence that gang members regarded Morales as a “rat;” that the Mexican Mafia usually kills such persons; that Marquez had access to information about Morales as a result of discovery that had been turned over to the defense in connection with the Sanchez murders; and that Morales’ murder was conducted in the manner of a Mexican Mafia “hit,” namely by having someone the victim trusted lure him to a secluded spot.
The case is People v. Marquez, B193733.
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LOL damn why so much snitching in the internal of the EME?
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youngspade wrote:LOL damn why so much snitching in the internal of the EME?
Only guy who was an EME was the guy MArquez the rest were just Avenues members. They were pretty loyal but they couldnt get made at this point cuz the books were closed ,no new members were allowed in from 1994-2001......so when they did make new guys it was rare. Marquez was almost killed over being made a member during the closed book period. He got a EME tattoo and was put on a greenlight list because -no new members -no exceptions was institued during the year 1993. It would eventually work out after some big wig went and interviewed Marquez. He along with a Arellano Felix shot caller and a few relatives were the only new members allowed in during the 1990s. But yea -these guys went to 3 trials and had hung juries, up until the last guy just had had too much stress dealing with over 3 years in county jail fighting a life sentence-so he flipped and started telling they would get life sentences in the end. Avenues pulls a shitload of weight in the EME. They got some real heavy hitters
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mayugastank wrote:youngspade wrote:LOL damn why so much snitching in the internal of the EME?
Only guy who was an EME was the guy MArquez the rest were just Avenues members. They were pretty loyal but they couldnt get made at this point because the books were closed ,no new members were allowed in from 1994-2001......so when they did make new guys it was rare. Marquez was almost killed over being made a member during the closed book period. He got a EME tattoo and was put on a greenlight list because -no new members -no exceptions was institued during the year 1993. It would eventually work out after some big wig went and interviewed Marquez. He along with a Arellano Felix shot caller and a few relatives were the only new members allowed in during the 1990s. But yea -these guys went to 3 trials and had hung juries, up until the last guy just had had too much stress dealing with over 3 years in county jail fighting a life sentence-so he flipped and started telling they would get life sentences in the end. Avenues pulls a shitload of weight in the EME. They got some real heavy hitters
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Aves have always been connected.....I remember when that little girl got shot in the alley....one of their vets was on tv saying how the "big homies" don't like this and never wanted something like this to ever happen....made you think that the gunner was basically done...run or get caught and muted on the inside...too much attention.
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Coup wrote:Aves have always been connected.....I remember when that little girl got shot in the alley....one of their vets was on tv saying how the "big homies" don't like this and never wanted something like this to ever happen....made you think that the gunner was basically done...run or get caught and muted on the inside...too much attention.
AVES got a gang of EME -heres a few.
Alex PEE WEE AGUIRRE
TIGRILLO
GANGSTER
PYSCHO AGUIRRE
LIL MAN AGUIRRE
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More than 1,300 local and federal law enforcement officers swooped down early this morning to serve warrants at 47 homes and apartments in Los Angeles. Forty four Avenues gang members and associates were arrested in the sweep.
Above: A press conference discussing the massive operation was held today outside LAPD Academy and included Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, LAPD Deputy Chief Charlie Beck, Acting U.S. Attorney George Cardona and City Attorney Carmen Trutanich.
Alleged Cop Killer: Carlos "Stoney" Velasquez
The 222-page federal indictment is a story of murder, attempted murder, extortion, money laundering, intimidation and plots to smuggle drugs and cell phones into prisons.It also alleges that Los Angeles Deputy Sheriff Juan Escalante's accused shooter, Carlos "Stoney" Velasquez, admitted in wiretaps to a fellow gangster that he killed the 27-year-old deputy outside his Cypress Park home in retribution for the shooting death of his cousin Danny "Klever" Leon by Los Angeles Department Police Department officers in February of 2008. Escalante was getting into his car on his way to work when he was gunned down on August 2, 2008.
For months after the deputies killing, police wondered whether Escalante was killed because of his work at Men's Central Jail in Downtown LA or if it was a case of mistaken identity by gang members who were searching for gang rivals.
The indictment also alleges that, among other things, Mexican Mafia members were training new leaders of the Avenues gangsters to take over the drug dealing and extortion operations on Drew Street after dozens of its Drew Street clique members were picked up in the June 2008 take-down that netted Maria "Chata" Leon.
Leon is the reputed matriarch of a drug-dealing family of gangsters that included her sons and who terrorized the neighborhood for over two decades. In May, a federal judge sentenced Leon to eight years in federal prison. She plead guilty to two counts of racketeering and conspiracy to distribute crack cocaine.
The indictment was a veritable "who's who" of Avenues gangsters that included such members of the Aguirre Mexican Mafia family as Rudy "Lil Psycho" Aguirre, his father Rudy Aguirre Sr. and cousin Richie "Lil Pee Wee" Aguirre, who is serving a life sentence in Kearn Valley State Prison for three murders he committed in the mid-1990s.
Richie Aguirre's older brother is Mexican Mafia member Alex "Pee Wee" Aguirre, who was indicted by the feds in the '90s, and has an Avenues clique called the Pee Wee Gangsters named after him.
In one of many creepy parts of the indictment, Rudy Aguirre Jr. and Rudy Aguirre Sr. met with a Mexican Mafia member in Pelican Bay State Prison, wanting permission to retaliate against a man they identified as "Boo Boo" because "Boo Boo" had not assisted an Avenues gang member who had been fatally injured during a shooting with a rival gang member and had not shown "sufficient respect" for the Aguirre family. The Mexican Mafia member authorized that "Boo Boo" should get a pounding for disrespecting the gang.
In another wiretapped interview, Rudy Aguirre Jr. said he would allow a gang member named Anthony Rodriguez to continue to work for Richie Aguirre, who was controlling drugs in county jail from his prison cell, once he got out of county jail, if he was not restricted to a supervised halfway house. Rodriguez said he would stay out of the halfway house by claiming he had a legitimate job and that he would get a letter of support from the director of Homeboy Industries.
Documents show that Rudy Aguirre Jr. began to lay low when he suspected he was a target of the 2008 indictment of the Drew Street clique even though he was told by Avenues gangster James Campbell that he had not been named.
A month later, on August 2, Carlos "Stoney" Velasquez (who had recently been appointed as the new leader of the drug trade on Drew Street), Guillermo Hernandez and others allegedly shot to death Deputy Escalante with a .40 caliber handgun in an area controlled by the Avenues. (Velasquez, and Hernandez were arrested by the LAPD for the deputy's killing last December 12. They were subsequently charged with one count each of murder with the special circumstance that the killing was carried out to further the activities of a criminal gang. Jose Renteria was charged in April. A fourth suspect is on the lam).
That same day, after two juvenile members of the Avenues disposed of the gun, another Avenues gang member was overheard on a wiretap attempting to get to the bottom of the shooting and to find out whether the hit was ordered by the Mexican Mafia.
On August 15, authorities listened to a wiretapped conversation between Jose Leon and alleged shooter Velasquez about law enforcement efforts to track down the killers of Escalante. Leon told Velasquez that Mexican Mafia leaders wanted Cypress and 43rd Street cliques of the Avenues to become more active in the Drew Street drug trade because of the arrests made in June by the feds.
Velasquez allegedly told Leon that he had killed Escalante in retribution for the death of Leon's AK-47-wielding brother, Danny, by police officers on February 21, 2008, after fatally gunning down Marco Salas, a former Cypress Park gang member and almost killing his two-year-old granddaughter. Velasquez stated specifically that "Klever took one with him." Leon told Velasquez that he would protect Velasquez' brother and Avenues gang member Jose Gomez from retaliation for cooperating with law enforcement, because Velasquez killed the deputy.
On September 20, Aguirre Jr. took another trip to Pelican Bay to inform a Mexican Mafia member that "tax" payments had stopped because of the arrests of Drew street clique members, and that Drew Street had been shut down and James Campbell had been arrested. The Mexican Mafia member instructed Aguirre to have his lawyer send him a book about the Mexican Mafia and mark it as "confidential."
On December 11, 2008, Velasquez got word that there was an "emergency" because cops were conducting searches of gang members residences near Avenue 57. That same day, Rodriguez told Velasquez to get a gun. Velasquez told Richie Aguirre that a fellow gangster's residence had been searched by the cops, who seized their assault rifles but couldn't find their stash of narcotics.
Velasquez then told a gangster to spread the rumor that Velasquez had been drinking with a fellow gangster when Escalante was murdered in order to create an alibi.
The indictment brings to light the sleazy drug-filled and violent world of the Avenues gangsters, from girlfriends who sneak notes into prison for their boyfriends, then lie to judges that they will stay out of the gang life to get smaller sentences; to old-time gangsters who hide heroin in their rectums to smuggle into jail, and to newbie
juvenile members who pay $10 a week so they can carry a weapon.
And the pride they feel. In one telling conversation, Richie Aguirre, on a cellphone hidden in his cell, told a female caller that she should be proud that her brothers had been featured in a "Gangland" episode about the Avenues gang on the History Channel, and that authority had changed hands within the Mexican Mafia from his brother Alex Aguirre to him.
More than 1,300 local and federal law enforcement officers swooped down early this morning to serve warrants at 47 homes and apartments in Los Angeles. Forty four Avenues gang members and associates were arrested in the sweep.
Above: A press conference discussing the massive operation was held today outside LAPD Academy and included Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, LAPD Deputy Chief Charlie Beck, Acting U.S. Attorney George Cardona and City Attorney Carmen Trutanich.
Alleged Cop Killer: Carlos "Stoney" Velasquez
The 222-page federal indictment is a story of murder, attempted murder, extortion, money laundering, intimidation and plots to smuggle drugs and cell phones into prisons.It also alleges that Los Angeles Deputy Sheriff Juan Escalante's accused shooter, Carlos "Stoney" Velasquez, admitted in wiretaps to a fellow gangster that he killed the 27-year-old deputy outside his Cypress Park home in retribution for the shooting death of his cousin Danny "Klever" Leon by Los Angeles Department Police Department officers in February of 2008. Escalante was getting into his car on his way to work when he was gunned down on August 2, 2008.
For months after the deputies killing, police wondered whether Escalante was killed because of his work at Men's Central Jail in Downtown LA or if it was a case of mistaken identity by gang members who were searching for gang rivals.
The indictment also alleges that, among other things, Mexican Mafia members were training new leaders of the Avenues gangsters to take over the drug dealing and extortion operations on Drew Street after dozens of its Drew Street clique members were picked up in the June 2008 take-down that netted Maria "Chata" Leon.
Leon is the reputed matriarch of a drug-dealing family of gangsters that included her sons and who terrorized the neighborhood for over two decades. In May, a federal judge sentenced Leon to eight years in federal prison. She plead guilty to two counts of racketeering and conspiracy to distribute crack cocaine.
The indictment was a veritable "who's who" of Avenues gangsters that included such members of the Aguirre Mexican Mafia family as Rudy "Lil Psycho" Aguirre, his father Rudy Aguirre Sr. and cousin Richie "Lil Pee Wee" Aguirre, who is serving a life sentence in Kearn Valley State Prison for three murders he committed in the mid-1990s.
Richie Aguirre's older brother is Mexican Mafia member Alex "Pee Wee" Aguirre, who was indicted by the feds in the '90s, and has an Avenues clique called the Pee Wee Gangsters named after him.
In one of many creepy parts of the indictment, Rudy Aguirre Jr. and Rudy Aguirre Sr. met with a Mexican Mafia member in Pelican Bay State Prison, wanting permission to retaliate against a man they identified as "Boo Boo" because "Boo Boo" had not assisted an Avenues gang member who had been fatally injured during a shooting with a rival gang member and had not shown "sufficient respect" for the Aguirre family. The Mexican Mafia member authorized that "Boo Boo" should get a pounding for disrespecting the gang.
In another wiretapped interview, Rudy Aguirre Jr. said he would allow a gang member named Anthony Rodriguez to continue to work for Richie Aguirre, who was controlling drugs in county jail from his prison cell, once he got out of county jail, if he was not restricted to a supervised halfway house. Rodriguez said he would stay out of the halfway house by claiming he had a legitimate job and that he would get a letter of support from the director of Homeboy Industries.
Documents show that Rudy Aguirre Jr. began to lay low when he suspected he was a target of the 2008 indictment of the Drew Street clique even though he was told by Avenues gangster James Campbell that he had not been named.
A month later, on August 2, Carlos "Stoney" Velasquez (who had recently been appointed as the new leader of the drug trade on Drew Street), Guillermo Hernandez and others allegedly shot to death Deputy Escalante with a .40 caliber handgun in an area controlled by the Avenues. (Velasquez, and Hernandez were arrested by the LAPD for the deputy's killing last December 12. They were subsequently charged with one count each of murder with the special circumstance that the killing was carried out to further the activities of a criminal gang. Jose Renteria was charged in April. A fourth suspect is on the lam).
That same day, after two juvenile members of the Avenues disposed of the gun, another Avenues gang member was overheard on a wiretap attempting to get to the bottom of the shooting and to find out whether the hit was ordered by the Mexican Mafia.
On August 15, authorities listened to a wiretapped conversation between Jose Leon and alleged shooter Velasquez about law enforcement efforts to track down the killers of Escalante. Leon told Velasquez that Mexican Mafia leaders wanted Cypress and 43rd Street cliques of the Avenues to become more active in the Drew Street drug trade because of the arrests made in June by the feds.
Velasquez allegedly told Leon that he had killed Escalante in retribution for the death of Leon's AK-47-wielding brother, Danny, by police officers on February 21, 2008, after fatally gunning down Marco Salas, a former Cypress Park gang member and almost killing his two-year-old granddaughter. Velasquez stated specifically that "Klever took one with him." Leon told Velasquez that he would protect Velasquez' brother and Avenues gang member Jose Gomez from retaliation for cooperating with law enforcement, because Velasquez killed the deputy.
On September 20, Aguirre Jr. took another trip to Pelican Bay to inform a Mexican Mafia member that "tax" payments had stopped because of the arrests of Drew street clique members, and that Drew Street had been shut down and James Campbell had been arrested. The Mexican Mafia member instructed Aguirre to have his lawyer send him a book about the Mexican Mafia and mark it as "confidential."
On December 11, 2008, Velasquez got word that there was an "emergency" because cops were conducting searches of gang members residences near Avenue 57. That same day, Rodriguez told Velasquez to get a gun. Velasquez told Richie Aguirre that a fellow gangster's residence had been searched by the cops, who seized their assault rifles but couldn't find their stash of narcotics.
Velasquez then told a gangster to spread the rumor that Velasquez had been drinking with a fellow gangster when Escalante was murdered in order to create an alibi.
The indictment brings to light the sleazy drug-filled and violent world of the Avenues gangsters, from girlfriends who sneak notes into prison for their boyfriends, then lie to judges that they will stay out of the gang life to get smaller sentences; to old-time gangsters who hide heroin in their rectums to smuggle into jail, and to newbie
juvenile members who pay $10 a week so they can carry a weapon.
And the pride they feel. In one telling conversation, Richie Aguirre, on a cellphone hidden in his cell, told a female caller that she should be proud that her brothers had been featured in a "Gangland" episode about the Avenues gang on the History Channel, and that authority had changed hands within the Mexican Mafia from his brother Alex Aguirre to him.
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Aves are definitely connected but eme and Aves have snitches and fags all in their mix......check this out Mayuga...
Showing no emotion, a former leader of the Avenues clique testifies about murder, extortion and drug deals. Ailing and in custody, he is vilified by his family, which once terrified a neighborhood.
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Pancho Rea was at Our Lady Queen of Angels Church with his wife and daughter one Sunday in October 2006 when his cellphone rang.
He was summoned to a park near his home on Drew Street, a drug and gang haven in Northeast Los Angeles, to kill a man he didn't know. The Mexican Mafia wanted a paroled Avenues gang member named Frank "Kiko" Cordova dead.
Real left church with his family and called another gang member, Carlos Renteria.
At the park that afternoon, they figured out who Cordova was but saw he was among children.
Outside the park, Real said, he told the mafia's representatives , who conferred with others by phone. They told Real to shoot Cordova anyway.
Real and Renteria returned and saw Cordova walking away from the kids.
"We said, 'There he goes. Let's roll,' " Real testified.
Real said he fired in the air to scare onlookers as Renteria walked across the park and shot the parolee. (Renteria was charged last summer with Cordova's murder.)
Back on Drew Street minutes later, Real changed his sweat shirt, met his wife and daughter at his stepfather's and went about his Sunday.
That scene, described step by emotionless step, captured the life of opposing impulses of Francisco "Pancho" Real, former leader of the Drew Street clique of the Avenues gang and a member of a notorious crime family.
He ordered up extortions and robberies and taxed drug dealers, but said he didn't use drugs, attended church every Sunday and attempted, as an attorney skeptically put it in cross-examination, to be a "kinder and gentler shot-caller."
In testimony over two weeks in Los Angeles County Superior Court, Real, 28, offered a firsthand account of life in one of Southern California's most notorious Latino gangs. The Avenues gang has roamed Northeast L.A. since the 1950s. Its Drew Street clique, of newer vintage, dates to the 1990s.
A short man in a white jumpsuit, shackled and with slicked-back hair falling to his shoulders, Real spoke slowly, leaning into a microphone on the witness stand next to Judge Lance Ito.
He was ostensibly there to testify, immune from prosecution, in a preliminary hearing for three alleged Drew Streeters charged in the shooting death of a member of a rival gang on Feb. 21, 2008.
Minutes after that attack, a fourth suspect in the shooting -- Real's half brother Daniel "Clever" Leon -- was killed in a shootout on Drew Street with Los Angeles police gang detectives, allegedly after firing at them with an assault rifle.
Leon's death was ruled a justifiable homicide. At the time, by all accounts, Pancho Real ran Drew Street. He knelt by his brother's body, then challenged officers to kill him as well. Four months later, he was arrested and charged with racketeering. Now he is an informant and is being treated for cancer. So Ito allowed prosecutors and defense attorneys wide latitude in questioning him.
"In the event this witness is not available in the future, this is your opportunity," Ito said at the hearing, which concluded two weeks ago.
Real testified for days. Kids on Drew Street, he said, were raised as drug dealers amid a swirl of half brothers, baby mamas, aunts, second cousins and stepfathers. They hid guns, drugs and money in a maze of apartments while spotters alerted Real to every police car; a neighborhood auto shop worked on most of their shot-up cars, he said.
The whims of incarcerated prison-gang members, expressed in rectum-smuggled notes, translated into Drew Street killings or beatings. Gang members knew one another by nicknames that seemed to reflect a cross between "A Clockwork Orange" and the Seven Dwarfs: Droopy, Nasty, Tricky, Flappy, Creeper, Menace, Pest.
Not everything Real said could be confirmed. But as his testimony stretched on, law enforcement representatives slowly filled Ito's gallery: four homicide detectives; two uniformed officers; six, then eight sheriff's deputies.
From the stand, Real clinically issued shards of chilling detail:
Daniel Leon had laser eye surgery to make himself a better street marksman. The gang had a hard-core crew -- known as the A Team or the Killer Squad, including Leon -- that would go on "missions" against rival gangs. A Mexican Mafia prison gang member, held in maximum security, had a "secretary" handling his affairs on Drew Street.
Real admitted having smuggled immigrants and selling drugs for years. But he painted himself a reluctant shot-caller -- unwilling even to become a Drew Street member when beaten into the gang in 2004.
He was anointed the street's shot-caller in the fall of 2007 by representatives of the Mexican Mafia, who asked him to take the job after another leader was arrested.
He said his main responsibility was collecting "taxes" for the Mexican Mafia from about 40 drug dealers in the 12-square-block neighborhood surrounding Drew Street -- a total of $150,000 to $200,000 in his nine months as gang leader. He said he gave the money to mafia associates every Thursday.
He never carried a gun, even in rival gang territory, because any gang member "would be crazy" to shoot a mafia tax collector, he said.
Real also named attorneys who, he alleged, provided him with addresses of witnesses so that he and others could threaten them. Sandi Gibbons, a spokeswoman for the Los Angeles County district attorney's office, declined to comment.
A network of families related by birth and marriage cemented the gang. They hail from Tlalchapa, Guerrero, a town in a violent region several hours west of Mexico City.
Real's mother, Maria Leon, an illegal immigrant from Tlalchapa, had 14 children on Drew Street, including 10 sons, with four men, he said. She had sold drugs there since the late 1980s, Real said, as did his uncles, aunts, cousins and stepfathers. He and his brothers each joined the gang as they entered their teens.
Real tried to break from his family and go straight, even receiving First Communion alone at 17, he said. But, "every time I try to get out, they pull me back in."
On April 30, 2008, while several members of his family were in jail, Real said, he went to the FBI -- finding the number by calling 411. He said agents interviewed him but never got back to him. Two months later, his name led a 158-page federal indictment of more than 70 Drew Streeters.
In custody, Real began cooperating with investigators. In return, his mother told him she hated him, his sisters and uncles stopped taking his collect calls, his brothers were asked to kill him.
"I never thought my family would turn like that on me," he said.
The Real-Leon family saga seems done. Their house, once guarded by laser trip wires and cameras, is gone, the property a vacant lot. Real's brothers and mother have pleaded guilty to drug conspiracy or immigration charges.
Crime is down on Drew Street. Trees are no longer spray-painted with graffiti. At Drew and Estara Avenue, an optimistic homeowner is offering a house for sale -- unthinkable two years ago.
After years amid Drew Street tumult, Francisco Real must be housed in solitary confinement at the federal Metropolitan Detention Center in downtown Los Angeles. He can't go outside to exercise or go to church, and gang members in nearby modules rain down insults well into the night.
"I don't have a friend," he testified.
He stared at the ceiling and fought emotion describing how his younger brother and sister were beaten and had to be relocated.
Yet, when defense attorney Jim Hallett asked if he regretted cooperating, Real shook his head.
He should, he said, have done it "a long time ago."
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Showing no emotion, a former leader of the Avenues clique testifies about murder, extortion and drug deals. Ailing and in custody, he is vilified by his family, which once terrified a neighborhood.
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Pancho Rea was at Our Lady Queen of Angels Church with his wife and daughter one Sunday in October 2006 when his cellphone rang.
He was summoned to a park near his home on Drew Street, a drug and gang haven in Northeast Los Angeles, to kill a man he didn't know. The Mexican Mafia wanted a paroled Avenues gang member named Frank "Kiko" Cordova dead.
Real left church with his family and called another gang member, Carlos Renteria.
At the park that afternoon, they figured out who Cordova was but saw he was among children.
Outside the park, Real said, he told the mafia's representatives , who conferred with others by phone. They told Real to shoot Cordova anyway.
Real and Renteria returned and saw Cordova walking away from the kids.
"We said, 'There he goes. Let's roll,' " Real testified.
Real said he fired in the air to scare onlookers as Renteria walked across the park and shot the parolee. (Renteria was charged last summer with Cordova's murder.)
Back on Drew Street minutes later, Real changed his sweat shirt, met his wife and daughter at his stepfather's and went about his Sunday.
That scene, described step by emotionless step, captured the life of opposing impulses of Francisco "Pancho" Real, former leader of the Drew Street clique of the Avenues gang and a member of a notorious crime family.
He ordered up extortions and robberies and taxed drug dealers, but said he didn't use drugs, attended church every Sunday and attempted, as an attorney skeptically put it in cross-examination, to be a "kinder and gentler shot-caller."
In testimony over two weeks in Los Angeles County Superior Court, Real, 28, offered a firsthand account of life in one of Southern California's most notorious Latino gangs. The Avenues gang has roamed Northeast L.A. since the 1950s. Its Drew Street clique, of newer vintage, dates to the 1990s.
A short man in a white jumpsuit, shackled and with slicked-back hair falling to his shoulders, Real spoke slowly, leaning into a microphone on the witness stand next to Judge Lance Ito.
He was ostensibly there to testify, immune from prosecution, in a preliminary hearing for three alleged Drew Streeters charged in the shooting death of a member of a rival gang on Feb. 21, 2008.
Minutes after that attack, a fourth suspect in the shooting -- Real's half brother Daniel "Clever" Leon -- was killed in a shootout on Drew Street with Los Angeles police gang detectives, allegedly after firing at them with an assault rifle.
Leon's death was ruled a justifiable homicide. At the time, by all accounts, Pancho Real ran Drew Street. He knelt by his brother's body, then challenged officers to kill him as well. Four months later, he was arrested and charged with racketeering. Now he is an informant and is being treated for cancer. So Ito allowed prosecutors and defense attorneys wide latitude in questioning him.
"In the event this witness is not available in the future, this is your opportunity," Ito said at the hearing, which concluded two weeks ago.
Real testified for days. Kids on Drew Street, he said, were raised as drug dealers amid a swirl of half brothers, baby mamas, aunts, second cousins and stepfathers. They hid guns, drugs and money in a maze of apartments while spotters alerted Real to every police car; a neighborhood auto shop worked on most of their shot-up cars, he said.
The whims of incarcerated prison-gang members, expressed in rectum-smuggled notes, translated into Drew Street killings or beatings. Gang members knew one another by nicknames that seemed to reflect a cross between "A Clockwork Orange" and the Seven Dwarfs: Droopy, Nasty, Tricky, Flappy, Creeper, Menace, Pest.
Not everything Real said could be confirmed. But as his testimony stretched on, law enforcement representatives slowly filled Ito's gallery: four homicide detectives; two uniformed officers; six, then eight sheriff's deputies.
From the stand, Real clinically issued shards of chilling detail:
Daniel Leon had laser eye surgery to make himself a better street marksman. The gang had a hard-core crew -- known as the A Team or the Killer Squad, including Leon -- that would go on "missions" against rival gangs. A Mexican Mafia prison gang member, held in maximum security, had a "secretary" handling his affairs on Drew Street.
Real admitted having smuggled immigrants and selling drugs for years. But he painted himself a reluctant shot-caller -- unwilling even to become a Drew Street member when beaten into the gang in 2004.
He was anointed the street's shot-caller in the fall of 2007 by representatives of the Mexican Mafia, who asked him to take the job after another leader was arrested.
He said his main responsibility was collecting "taxes" for the Mexican Mafia from about 40 drug dealers in the 12-square-block neighborhood surrounding Drew Street -- a total of $150,000 to $200,000 in his nine months as gang leader. He said he gave the money to mafia associates every Thursday.
He never carried a gun, even in rival gang territory, because any gang member "would be crazy" to shoot a mafia tax collector, he said.
Real also named attorneys who, he alleged, provided him with addresses of witnesses so that he and others could threaten them. Sandi Gibbons, a spokeswoman for the Los Angeles County district attorney's office, declined to comment.
A network of families related by birth and marriage cemented the gang. They hail from Tlalchapa, Guerrero, a town in a violent region several hours west of Mexico City.
Real's mother, Maria Leon, an illegal immigrant from Tlalchapa, had 14 children on Drew Street, including 10 sons, with four men, he said. She had sold drugs there since the late 1980s, Real said, as did his uncles, aunts, cousins and stepfathers. He and his brothers each joined the gang as they entered their teens.
Real tried to break from his family and go straight, even receiving First Communion alone at 17, he said. But, "every time I try to get out, they pull me back in."
On April 30, 2008, while several members of his family were in jail, Real said, he went to the FBI -- finding the number by calling 411. He said agents interviewed him but never got back to him. Two months later, his name led a 158-page federal indictment of more than 70 Drew Streeters.
In custody, Real began cooperating with investigators. In return, his mother told him she hated him, his sisters and uncles stopped taking his collect calls, his brothers were asked to kill him.
"I never thought my family would turn like that on me," he said.
The Real-Leon family saga seems done. Their house, once guarded by laser trip wires and cameras, is gone, the property a vacant lot. Real's brothers and mother have pleaded guilty to drug conspiracy or immigration charges.
Crime is down on Drew Street. Trees are no longer spray-painted with graffiti. At Drew and Estara Avenue, an optimistic homeowner is offering a house for sale -- unthinkable two years ago.
After years amid Drew Street tumult, Francisco Real must be housed in solitary confinement at the federal Metropolitan Detention Center in downtown Los Angeles. He can't go outside to exercise or go to church, and gang members in nearby modules rain down insults well into the night.
"I don't have a friend," he testified.
He stared at the ceiling and fought emotion describing how his younger brother and sister were beaten and had to be relocated.
Yet, when defense attorney Jim Hallett asked if he regretted cooperating, Real shook his head.
He should, he said, have done it "a long time ago."
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Yea I read about this guy -I looked far and wide for this article -good find! Thanks. The story here is that he collected a percentage of taxes. In one neighborhood. The Aves are highly organized and collect all thru Los Angelos. They tax people into Montebello and all thru North East LA and East LA. They were taxing the mongols MC. A few Avenues members were selling dope and then finding more people to tax. They sold to members of the Mongols and then demanded that they buy and sell all their dope thru the Aves. When the Mongols refused to pay taxes they were greenlighted. The Aves also work really close with Toonerville gangsters. The notorious murders in atwater were hits on rivals and people who refused to pay rent. The guy from Toonerville had a real close working relationship with AVES. What throws me off is the amount of gangbanging they are allowed to do against other sureno varrios in the area. I hear they throw their weight around and blast cypress park and other enemies then go back and have them greenlighted over BS issues like not paying taxes or whatever...for what its worth those neighborhoods that oppose the Aves in NELA are finished. Also of course they have bitches and snitches all groups do. But I focused on their connections to real big organized crime, sneaking illegals into the US and smuggling major weight, taxing to a new level and top down being the most connected varrio in LA ,more so then any other hood I can think of. Not 18 or f13 or Hazard where tons of EME comes from have the weight of the aves.
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Dude was in charge of the Drew Street click....the Aves biggest baddest click...that shit is stupid
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nah HLxP, CxP, and Dogtown are well and alive. But Avenues are the boss over in NELA no doubt about that.mayugastank wrote:Yea I read about this guy -I looked far and wide for this article -good find! Thanks. The story here is that he collected a percentage of taxes. In one neighborhood. The Aves are highly organized and collect all thru Los Angelos. They tax people into Montebello and all thru North East LA and East LA. They were taxing the mongols MC. A few Avenues members were selling dope and then finding more people to tax. They sold to members of the Mongols and then demanded that they buy and sell all their dope thru the Aves. When the Mongols refused to pay taxes they were greenlighted. The Aves also work really close with Toonerville gangsters. The notorious murders in atwater were hits on rivals and people who refused to pay rent. The guy from Toonerville had a real close working relationship with AVES. What throws me off is the amount of gangbanging they are allowed to do against other sureno varrios in the area. I hear they throw their weight around and blast cypress park and other enemies then go back and have them greenlighted over BS issues like not paying taxes or whatever...for what its worth those neighborhoods that oppose the Aves in NELA are finished. Also of course they have women and snitches all groups do. But I focused on their connections to real big organized crime, sneaking illegals into the US and smuggling major weight, taxing to a new level and top down being the most connected varrio in LA ,more so then any other hood I can think of. Not 18 or f13 or Hazard where tons of EME comes from have the weight of the aves.
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perongregory wrote:nah HLxP, CxP, and Dogtown are well and alive. But Avenues are the boss over in NELA no doubt about that.mayugastank wrote:Yea I read about this guy -I looked far and wide for this article -good find! Thanks. The story here is that he collected a percentage of taxes. In one neighborhood. The Aves are highly organized and collect all thru Los Angelos. They tax people into Montebello and all thru North East LA and East LA. They were taxing the mongols MC. A few Avenues members were selling dope and then finding more people to tax. They sold to members of the Mongols and then demanded that they buy and sell all their dope thru the Aves. When the Mongols refused to pay taxes they were greenlighted. The Aves also work really close with Toonerville gangsters. The notorious murders in atwater were hits on rivals and people who refused to pay rent. The guy from Toonerville had a real close working relationship with AVES. What throws me off is the amount of gangbanging they are allowed to do against other sureno varrios in the area. I hear they throw their weight around and blast cypress park and other enemies then go back and have them greenlighted over BS issues like not paying taxes or whatever...for what its worth those neighborhoods that oppose the Aves in NELA are finished. Also of course they have women and snitches all groups do. But I focused on their connections to real big organized crime, sneaking illegals into the US and smuggling major weight, taxing to a new level and top down being the most connected varrio in LA ,more so then any other hood I can think of. Not 18 or f13 or Hazard where tons of EME comes from have the weight of the aves.
Yea....I read that 6 HLP got shot up and then the dudes who did it claimed they put them on blast cuz they werent paying rent -so they couldnt even counter attack
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Eme Rebellion happening in t-minus 5 years!mayugastank wrote:perongregory wrote:nah HLxP, CxP, and Dogtown are well and alive. But Avenues are the boss over in NELA no doubt about that.mayugastank wrote:Yea I read about this guy -I looked far and wide for this article -good find! Thanks. The story here is that he collected a percentage of taxes. In one neighborhood. The Aves are highly organized and collect all thru Los Angelos. They tax people into Montebello and all thru North East LA and East LA. They were taxing the mongols MC. A few Avenues members were selling dope and then finding more people to tax. They sold to members of the Mongols and then demanded that they buy and sell all their dope thru the Aves. When the Mongols refused to pay taxes they were greenlighted. The Aves also work really close with Toonerville gangsters. The notorious murders in atwater were hits on rivals and people who refused to pay rent. The guy from Toonerville had a real close working relationship with AVES. What throws me off is the amount of gangbanging they are allowed to do against other sureno varrios in the area. I hear they throw their weight around and blast cypress park and other enemies then go back and have them greenlighted over BS issues like not paying taxes or whatever...for what its worth those neighborhoods that oppose the Aves in NELA are finished. Also of course they have women and snitches all groups do. But I focused on their connections to real big organized crime, sneaking illegals into the US and smuggling major weight, taxing to a new level and top down being the most connected varrio in LA ,more so then any other hood I can think of. Not 18 or f13 or Hazard where tons of EME comes from have the weight of the aves.
Yea....I read that 6 HLP got shot up and then the dudes who did it claimed they put them on blast because they werent paying rent -so they couldnt even counter attack
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^^5-years???
Already happening....get at your homies in the pen...shit supposedly is already poppin...power struggles
Already happening....get at your homies in the pen...shit supposedly is already poppin...power struggles
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Coup wrote:^^5-years???
Already happening....get at your homies in the pen...shit supposedly is already poppin...power struggles
I mean a serious one with THE BIG HEADS, aslong F13, AVEs, 18 and a few others stay down they have there back bone!
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Coup wrote:^^5-years???
Already happening....get at your homies in the pen...shit supposedly is already poppin...power struggles
ENLIGHTEN US ON THAT*
I couldnt tell you -I would say the loss of eme power has to do with -the FBI. They get things going and next thing you know they get smashed. In 1999 they put a bad hurt on them.They got them doing major things-beyond their scope and beyond the first case that had to do with taxation and extortion. This time around they got guys who owned business, were extorting casinos, running guns into Mexico, gambling( ARMENIAN POWER)-the conversations were alot different then the first RICO cases in 1995. In 4 years they had grown tremenedously.In one year they made some 20+ street members -right before they were told that a national ban had been instituted banning membership.Some guys were extremely influential in organized crime across the border. Popeye, Bat and the TJ cartel,others were moving weight into the tens of millions(ART ROMO) They closed their books for some 10 years or so with NO NEW MEMBERS. So they had less then a couple dozen members outside controlling things. 24 people to dominate an area from San Diego to Fresno? Not possible! The membership roles were locked-some estimates place their numbers at under 150-to 300 total. A real small number considering 18street and f13 have some 10k members statewide. In reality you can go across SOuthern California and count resisters on one hand. Those that have opposed have gotten eliminated-consider LOWELL street. Are they even around? Thats one varrio that resisted the EME and was taken out. ALL THEIR MEMBERS ended up PCd and killed, by their own people. Also MARAVILLA? they are dust! They dont even show up on mainline in any state prison. In fact their were clicks of Maravillas that were completely wiped out-others that warred with eachother because some wanted to be SURENOS(Arizona-Lopez). Now get into the MOngols and look at how far the scope has gone they began taxing motorcycle clubs like the Hells Angels and Bandidos.-Everyone was paying rent. I dont see resistance on the surface but shit I dont know! I get what I get by research done by others-and I have done a good amount. Resistance isnt really widespread or even noticeable.
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ONE MORE THING FOR COUP.................Aves is one hood among hundreds and that guy was one guy among tens of thousands. Check out this article on Hawaiian Gardens a small-ass town-where LA EME ordered 5 murders in the Area against tax resisters, and snitches. We just dont know the scope of what they do-they could be making hundreds of millions and it so hush that only when a case is brought is it evert known-ART ROMO a mexican mafia member sentenced to 20 years in the Feds was making 40 million dollar drug deals -200k wasnt even how much he paid his attorney.
While Gil detained Ochoa, McKinney went to the front of the house to tell
the man who lived there what had happened and to ask to enter the backyard.
When the man explained about the dogs and volunteered to get the gun,
McKinney didn't object. He wasn't concerned about preserving fingerprints.
(Two police officers having observed the parolee toss the weapon was more
than sufficient to make a possession case.) After handing it over, the
homeowner, almost as an afterthought, asked a favor that any cop in Hawaiian
Gardens could understand: that his name be kept out of the matter. McKinney
assured him it would be.
It's dangerous enough in Hawaiian Gardens to antagonize gang members, but
Ochoa was no garden-variety street tough. Department of Corrections
investigators had already informed local police that Ochoa was suspected of
working directly for the Mexican Mafia, or la Eme (the Spanish pronunciation
for "M"), as it is known. His reputed role: collecting a percentage of
drug-trafficking proceeds from local gang members on la Eme's behalf.
Ticking off the Mexican Mafia is something one doesn't do, especially in an
entrenched, decades-old mafia stronghold such as Hawaiian Gardens. McKinney
knew that if word got out the man had helped to put away someone integral to
la Eme's local operation, some mafia boss in prison might well issue an
assassination order that local gang hoods, eager to win brownie points,
would carry out.
After all, revenge and retaliation are a way of life in the community. As
chief, McKinney had witnessed it countless times, often involving crimes as
simple as burglary and car theft. He had seen both witnesses and victims
targeted for retaliation by gang members as soon as word leaked out they had
provided help to police -- or, heaven forbid -- had agreed to testify in
court. Ordinary hardworking citizens had been subjected to assaults,
firebombings, death threats -- you name it -- sometimes only days before
they were to appear in court. The targets had included one of McKinney's own
police officers, gunned down and left paralyzed during an
assassination-style assault at his home, which also left the officer's
teenage son seriously wounded. That attack had come barely a month before
the officer had been scheduled to testify in the Hammonds hate-crime murder.
"By leaving the homeowner's name out of the report," Stone, the ex-chief's
lawyer, argued, "[McKinney] believed he was doing the community a greater
good, and was not trying to pervert or obstruct the justice system." In
fact, by trying to protect the homeowner, McKinney had placed himself in the
awkward position of having to testify at Ochoa's preliminary hearing. It
wasn't a prospect he relished. But neither did he believe, at the time, that
he would ever be asked to testify. With a federal racketeering prosecution
of the alleged Mexican Mafia murders imminent, it seemed a good bet that
authorities would not need to press charges against Ochoa for the parole
violation. That is, until the feds announced their suspects. Ochoa wasn't
among them.
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If Ochoa appeared confident upon being brought into Norwalk Superior Court
to stand trial in August 1997, it was for good reason. As someone who had
already been in and out of prison three times before the state's
three-strikes law was enacted, the 48-year-old convict had been a model
student of criminal law, if not a model prisoner. His self-taught prison
research was about to pay off handsomely. He had become skilled at writing
legal briefs, and, as quickly became evident, a master at leaving no
investigatory stone unturned. Eschewing legal advice, he had persuaded a
judge to allow him to represent himself in a case that, if he lost, could
result in his being sent back to prison for life. McKinney knew that if word
got out the man had helped put away someone integral to the Mexican Mafia's
local operation, an assassination order might well be put out.
It was something to behold -- a reputed tax collector for la Eme
representing himself pro per, in such a high-stakes case. Even John Lynch,
the supervising attorney who heads the Norwalk the's office, dropped into the
courtroom to take a look. But the trial would end abruptly.
While Gil detained Ochoa, McKinney went to the front of the house to tell
the man who lived there what had happened and to ask to enter the backyard.
When the man explained about the dogs and volunteered to get the gun,
McKinney didn't object. He wasn't concerned about preserving fingerprints.
(Two police officers having observed the parolee toss the weapon was more
than sufficient to make a possession case.) After handing it over, the
homeowner, almost as an afterthought, asked a favor that any cop in Hawaiian
Gardens could understand: that his name be kept out of the matter. McKinney
assured him it would be.
It's dangerous enough in Hawaiian Gardens to antagonize gang members, but
Ochoa was no garden-variety street tough. Department of Corrections
investigators had already informed local police that Ochoa was suspected of
working directly for the Mexican Mafia, or la Eme (the Spanish pronunciation
for "M"), as it is known. His reputed role: collecting a percentage of
drug-trafficking proceeds from local gang members on la Eme's behalf.
Ticking off the Mexican Mafia is something one doesn't do, especially in an
entrenched, decades-old mafia stronghold such as Hawaiian Gardens. McKinney
knew that if word got out the man had helped to put away someone integral to
la Eme's local operation, some mafia boss in prison might well issue an
assassination order that local gang hoods, eager to win brownie points,
would carry out.
After all, revenge and retaliation are a way of life in the community. As
chief, McKinney had witnessed it countless times, often involving crimes as
simple as burglary and car theft. He had seen both witnesses and victims
targeted for retaliation by gang members as soon as word leaked out they had
provided help to police -- or, heaven forbid -- had agreed to testify in
court. Ordinary hardworking citizens had been subjected to assaults,
firebombings, death threats -- you name it -- sometimes only days before
they were to appear in court. The targets had included one of McKinney's own
police officers, gunned down and left paralyzed during an
assassination-style assault at his home, which also left the officer's
teenage son seriously wounded. That attack had come barely a month before
the officer had been scheduled to testify in the Hammonds hate-crime murder.
"By leaving the homeowner's name out of the report," Stone, the ex-chief's
lawyer, argued, "[McKinney] believed he was doing the community a greater
good, and was not trying to pervert or obstruct the justice system." In
fact, by trying to protect the homeowner, McKinney had placed himself in the
awkward position of having to testify at Ochoa's preliminary hearing. It
wasn't a prospect he relished. But neither did he believe, at the time, that
he would ever be asked to testify. With a federal racketeering prosecution
of the alleged Mexican Mafia murders imminent, it seemed a good bet that
authorities would not need to press charges against Ochoa for the parole
violation. That is, until the feds announced their suspects. Ochoa wasn't
among them.
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If Ochoa appeared confident upon being brought into Norwalk Superior Court
to stand trial in August 1997, it was for good reason. As someone who had
already been in and out of prison three times before the state's
three-strikes law was enacted, the 48-year-old convict had been a model
student of criminal law, if not a model prisoner. His self-taught prison
research was about to pay off handsomely. He had become skilled at writing
legal briefs, and, as quickly became evident, a master at leaving no
investigatory stone unturned. Eschewing legal advice, he had persuaded a
judge to allow him to represent himself in a case that, if he lost, could
result in his being sent back to prison for life. McKinney knew that if word
got out the man had helped put away someone integral to the Mexican Mafia's
local operation, an assassination order might well be put out.
It was something to behold -- a reputed tax collector for la Eme
representing himself pro per, in such a high-stakes case. Even John Lynch,
the supervising attorney who heads the Norwalk the's office, dropped into the
courtroom to take a look. But the trial would end abruptly.
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At first, Gil, the Hawaiian Gardens detective, thought it was his
imagination. While driving a patrol car on Carson Boulevard that October
Thursday in 1996, he noticed a man walking alone on the north side of the
street who looked strikingly similar to Armando Ochoa. "Nah, it couldn't
be," the detective recalls thinking as he took a second and then a third
look. Ochoa stared straight ahead, as if not to notice the squad car. Only a
few days earlier, FBI agents had come to Hawaiian Gardens hoping to question
Ochoa in connection with a series of drug-related murders in which the
Mexican Mafia had been implicated. They left disappointed after being told
by police that the five-time convicted felon had not been seen around town
in a long time. Could this be him? Gil took a last look, this time through
his rearview mirror, and instinctively made a U-turn. Ochoa began to run,
disappearing into the neighborhood south of the boulevard. Gil gave chase,
even as he got on the radio to call for help.
imagination. While driving a patrol car on Carson Boulevard that October
Thursday in 1996, he noticed a man walking alone on the north side of the
street who looked strikingly similar to Armando Ochoa. "Nah, it couldn't
be," the detective recalls thinking as he took a second and then a third
look. Ochoa stared straight ahead, as if not to notice the squad car. Only a
few days earlier, FBI agents had come to Hawaiian Gardens hoping to question
Ochoa in connection with a series of drug-related murders in which the
Mexican Mafia had been implicated. They left disappointed after being told
by police that the five-time convicted felon had not been seen around town
in a long time. Could this be him? Gil took a last look, this time through
his rearview mirror, and instinctively made a U-turn. Ochoa began to run,
disappearing into the neighborhood south of the boulevard. Gil gave chase,
even as he got on the radio to call for help.
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mayugastank wrote:ONE MORE THING FOR COUP.................Aves is one hood among hundreds and that guy was one guy among tens of thousands. Check out this article on Hawaiian Gardens a small-ass town-where LA EME ordered 5 murders in the Area against tax resisters, and snitches. We just dont know the scope of what they do-they could be making hundreds of millions and it so hush that only when a case is brought is it evert known-ART ROMO a mexican mafia member sentenced to 20 years in the Feds was making 40 million dollar drug deals -200k wasnt even how much he paid his attorney.
While Gil detained Ochoa, McKinney went to the front of the house to tell
the man who lived there what had happened and to ask to enter the backyard.
When the man explained about the dogs and volunteered to get the gun,
McKinney didn't object. He wasn't concerned about preserving fingerprints.
(Two police officers having observed the parolee toss the weapon was more
than sufficient to make a possession case.) After handing it over, the
homeowner, almost as an afterthought, asked a favor that any cop in Hawaiian
Gardens could understand: that his name be kept out of the matter. McKinney
assured him it would be.
It's dangerous enough in Hawaiian Gardens to antagonize gang members, but
Ochoa was no garden-variety street tough. Department of Corrections
investigators had already informed local police that Ochoa was suspected of
working directly for the Mexican Mafia, or la Eme (the Spanish pronunciation
for "M"), as it is known. His reputed role: collecting a percentage of
drug-trafficking proceeds from local gang members on la Eme's behalf.
Ticking off the Mexican Mafia is something one doesn't do, especially in an
entrenched, decades-old mafia stronghold such as Hawaiian Gardens. McKinney
knew that if word got out the man had helped to put away someone integral to
la Eme's local operation, some mafia boss in prison might well issue an
assassination order that local gang hoods, eager to win brownie points,
would carry out.
After all, revenge and retaliation are a way of life in the community. As
chief, McKinney had witnessed it countless times, often involving crimes as
simple as burglary and car theft. He had seen both witnesses and victims
targeted for retaliation by gang members as soon as word leaked out they had
provided help to police -- or, heaven forbid -- had agreed to testify in
court. Ordinary hardworking citizens had been subjected to assaults,
firebombings, death threats -- you name it -- sometimes only days before
they were to appear in court. The targets had included one of McKinney's own
police officers, gunned down and left paralyzed during an
assassination-style assault at his home, which also left the officer's
teenage son seriously wounded. That attack had come barely a month before
the officer had been scheduled to testify in the Hammonds hate-crime murder.
"By leaving the homeowner's name out of the report," Stone, the ex-chief's
lawyer, argued, "[McKinney] believed he was doing the community a greater
good, and was not trying to pervert or obstruct the justice system." In
fact, by trying to protect the homeowner, McKinney had placed himself in the
awkward position of having to testify at Ochoa's preliminary hearing. It
wasn't a prospect he relished. But neither did he believe, at the time, that
he would ever be asked to testify. With a federal racketeering prosecution
of the alleged Mexican Mafia murders imminent, it seemed a good bet that
authorities would not need to press charges against Ochoa for the parole
violation. That is, until the feds announced their suspects. Ochoa wasn't
among them.
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If Ochoa appeared confident upon being brought into Norwalk Superior Court
to stand trial in August 1997, it was for good reason. As someone who had
already been in and out of prison three times before the state's
three-strikes law was enacted, the 48-year-old convict had been a model
student of criminal law, if not a model prisoner. His self-taught prison
research was about to pay off handsomely. He had become skilled at writing
legal briefs, and, as quickly became evident, a master at leaving no
investigatory stone unturned. Eschewing legal advice, he had persuaded a
judge to allow him to represent himself in a case that, if he lost, could
result in his being sent back to prison for life. McKinney knew that if word
got out the man had helped put away someone integral to the Mexican Mafia's
local operation, an assassination order might well be put out.
It was something to behold -- a reputed tax collector for la Eme
representing himself pro per, in such a high-stakes case. Even John Lynch,
the supervising attorney who heads the Norwalk the's office, dropped into the
courtroom to take a look. But the trial would end abruptly.
It is the second time Romo has found himself on the wrong side of the law since he organized the United Gang Council of Orange County and brokered a much-publicized gang peace treaty in 1992. The first time earned him a three-year sentence for laundering $60,000 for a Colombian drug cartel. This time, Romo, 39, is facing 30 years or more in prison if he is convicted of transporting more than 200 kilos of cocaine, allegedly for the Colombians again.
Although he is being tried with co-defendants Fernando Melendrez and David R. Gomez, authorities believe that Romo, a Santa Ana resident who owned a silk-screening business, is the ringleader and a local leader of the Mexican Mafia prison gang, said Orange County Deputy Dist. Atty. Jeff Ferguson.
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All hearsay....
Aves got the pull on the yards...especially in SoCal...more pull then F13, 18, HG, Hazard..etc.
The major hitters are being shipped to the SHU, Supermax, etc....
New generation is showing rebellion....
You are right...all in all, things are probably OK????....but the seeds are planted and the rebels will grow louder....
A homie mentioned that jealousy and disrespect by some is growing in others.....and I have heard that MV is on the mainline in the pen....maybe true maybe not....
you can get a lot from the papers...reports....talk to your ese homies in the pen...they know the real...first hand....
Aves got the pull on the yards...especially in SoCal...more pull then F13, 18, HG, Hazard..etc.
The major hitters are being shipped to the SHU, Supermax, etc....
New generation is showing rebellion....
You are right...all in all, things are probably OK????....but the seeds are planted and the rebels will grow louder....
A homie mentioned that jealousy and disrespect by some is growing in others.....and I have heard that MV is on the mainline in the pen....maybe true maybe not....
you can get a lot from the papers...reports....talk to your ese homies in the pen...they know the real...first hand....
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have talked to my homies who have been locked down and they unanimously say the same thing " LA EME" does not run any yards except for ones they are actually in. Those are limited to Pelican Bay -Folsom and San Quentin. Susanville,Tracy, Most yards in Southern California and just about ALL yards in the entire state of California find themselves with "0" actual EME members. 0. I had boys who did 7 years and didnt ever run into an EMERO. 7 years in CAlifornia prisons. I had at least a dozen peoples I grew up with Surenos and such who were in and out the system and NEVER met an actual member. My coworker did 11 years in the system and ran into 3 dudes in his entire career that were hooked up. 3! This myth that the EME is on mainline is straight BS. They stick them all together in a few yards in SHU~FAR away from any general population. You can do 11 years and run into under 3 real verified fools??!! Most yards in California that are explosive are being run by associates. Yards on the outskirts -vacaville...el tuna-mariposa..tehachapi...hold a ton of surenos but they are headless-lack of leadership-discipline and alot of drama! Some yards are considered off limits. The CDC has slammed them down...their low numbers to begin with about 250-300, with about 100 in the entire state of California prison system and the rest scattered in the Federal System. Last number on the streets I read about 15 years or so ago had maybe 30 actual members on the streets for the entire CAlifornia! They closed their membership roles for close to a decade at the height of their power. I dont know how many their are on the streets but I bet it wouldnt be even over 50. In 1999-they took out 11 dudes all at once -that was the entire membership of LOS ANGELOS-they had mandatory meetings to discuss LA business and they threw it in LAS VEGAS because they were 2 hot to have a meeting in LA. All members of LA were present at this meeting. The entire membership of LA consisted of 11 dudes. If you look at my articles youll see indictments were mexican mafia members in San Bernadino or Sand Diego, or moreno valley are arrested . In all those cases only San Diego had actual EME members in numbers (4). Out of 30+ guys that got picked up. The big moreno valley bust where 15 mexican mafia were busted was all hoopla! not a one of those guys was an EME member. One guy was related to an Avenues gangster and was high up --he is probably EME now, but he wasnt back then. As far as I look I can only find under 10 people in the last decade who were verified members who got busted --not since 1999, have they been caught up in numbers. I dont know if they keep their numbers low purposely but I think its a big drawback. A big ass gang like Florencia thru all those Federal Trials didnt have a single EME member working all that cash flow and major drug deals-the guy who spoke for thenm hadnt seen the streets since 1979! One thing is to be cautious in who you let in but another is to have no represntation on the streets because a unananimous vote is needed to make a member-personal grudges and not knowing someone is enough to disqualify a member.
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sur...eme...different but the same to me....one just works for the other and knows better to question orders....
you lookin at it from an almighty eme twist...i look at it from the soldiers are having problems.....as spade put it...rebellion upcoming...i am hearing rebellion is now...may not be the rank and file...you made your point there...but it is the muscle and the future of the crew...
you spend a lot of time lookin into these dudes....any surs i know make it clear that they dont matter to them until they get sent to the pen...
you lookin at it from an almighty eme twist...i look at it from the soldiers are having problems.....as spade put it...rebellion upcoming...i am hearing rebellion is now...may not be the rank and file...you made your point there...but it is the muscle and the future of the crew...
you spend a lot of time lookin into these dudes....any surs i know make it clear that they dont matter to them until they get sent to the pen...
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The SURS you know who say they dont matter are either young ass kids or has beens. They arent balling -drug dealing making money or chasing paper. Any Sur who is doing that is on the radar for taxing and on the radar for recruitment. A little break down on some things--I heard about guys who tried to set up a tattoo shop in a competeive market and were told they now would pay half their profits to the EME when they refused they were firebombed the day after. There is not a tattoo shop in LA were the EME doesnt tax and hardly any drug dealer in all SOCAL not paying rent to them- I read a story about guys getting murked for refusing taxation in ENCINO! the whitest city in LA. The game has changed they are everywere and nowhere and my interest involves trying to find out their scope of operations. What I have seen so far leads me to believe their isnt any other organization with that much secrecy in the USA. Their are articles in the hundreds on the italians making dough, but only a paragraph on ART ROMO who made hundreds of millions of dollars for them. He was caught with 3 million dollars in a duffle bag. The eme from 18street(NITEOWL) had a half a million in a vaccuum cleaner -owned the block he lived on and had control of all illegal activity in Hollywood, and into LA. Surenos who are doing things are tied in bigtime. Look at the Arellano Felix Cartels and Popeye and little Popeye these guys were at the helm of the biggest drug distribution network in the world. They were in thick during Pablo Escobars days. It is hard to delieneate whom is a regular banger and whom is connected. I read an article where Chapo Guzman had a guy working for him in LA who transported hundreds of millions of dollars and coke thru his grocery chain, major organized crime......guess who tried to tax that guy? The EME associate would eventually get murked for trying but they would come back and kill dudes 2 brothers and bring his business to the end. We are talking about teh worlds largest supplier of drugs getting taxed for his shipments.
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Grocer faces charges of racketeering
Owner of the Numero Uno market chain is accused of orchestrating murders and bribing city officials, among other crimes.
June 14, 2007|Joe Mozingo and Andrew Blankstein , Times Staff Writers
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"All of these stores are in difficult parts of the city," said Searight. "They used violence and threats of violence to protect the stores. And they used it against their employees too, so they wouldn't come forward."
Torres was a onetime business partner of Horacio Vignali, who attracted national attention in 2001 when he enlisted a host of local law enforcement and elected officials -- including then-Assembly Speaker Antonio Villaraigosa and Sheriff Lee Baca -- to persuade President Clinton to pardon his convicted cocaine-dealing son.
A subsequent congressional probe of Clinton's pardons turned up statements by confidential informants -- mostly drug dealers who already had been caught -- to the Drug Enforcement Administration that the elder Vignali was a financial partner in an enterprise run by Torres that distributed 100 kilograms of cocaine per month.
The DEA launched an investigation several years ago, suspecting that Torres was using his produce trucks to transport cocaine from Mexico, a source close to the inquiry said. But drug agents did not find evidence to support this.
Instead, they found that Torres was using drug dealers to make threats and commit violence on his behalf, the indictment alleges. He was also accused of tipping off a drug dealer. Vignali was not implicated.
Among the other allegations:
* Torres had his employees extort suspected shoplifters for cash and assets.
* He beat one of his store managers in El Monte.
* He paid his employees under the table, without withdrawing taxes.
And he met violence with violence.
When a security guard was murdered in 1993 at Torres' La Estrella market in South Los Angeles, Torres allegedly told his employees not to talk to police. Instead he went to a drug dealer named Ignacio Meza and told him to retaliate against the Primera Flats street gang, which he held responsible for the killing, according to the indictment.
In May 1993, Meza fired a .45-caliber firearm out of his car window, killing a member of the gang, the indictment said.
In 1994, Torres allegedly tasked Meza again, this time to kill a man who claimed to be an associate of the Mexican Mafia demanding a "tax" to leave Numero Uno alone, the indictment said. Meza shot him to death on a sidewalk outside the Jefferson Street market, prosecutors allege
Owner of the Numero Uno market chain is accused of orchestrating murders and bribing city officials, among other crimes.
June 14, 2007|Joe Mozingo and Andrew Blankstein , Times Staff Writers
(Page 2 of 3)
"All of these stores are in difficult parts of the city," said Searight. "They used violence and threats of violence to protect the stores. And they used it against their employees too, so they wouldn't come forward."
Torres was a onetime business partner of Horacio Vignali, who attracted national attention in 2001 when he enlisted a host of local law enforcement and elected officials -- including then-Assembly Speaker Antonio Villaraigosa and Sheriff Lee Baca -- to persuade President Clinton to pardon his convicted cocaine-dealing son.
A subsequent congressional probe of Clinton's pardons turned up statements by confidential informants -- mostly drug dealers who already had been caught -- to the Drug Enforcement Administration that the elder Vignali was a financial partner in an enterprise run by Torres that distributed 100 kilograms of cocaine per month.
The DEA launched an investigation several years ago, suspecting that Torres was using his produce trucks to transport cocaine from Mexico, a source close to the inquiry said. But drug agents did not find evidence to support this.
Instead, they found that Torres was using drug dealers to make threats and commit violence on his behalf, the indictment alleges. He was also accused of tipping off a drug dealer. Vignali was not implicated.
Among the other allegations:
* Torres had his employees extort suspected shoplifters for cash and assets.
* He beat one of his store managers in El Monte.
* He paid his employees under the table, without withdrawing taxes.
And he met violence with violence.
When a security guard was murdered in 1993 at Torres' La Estrella market in South Los Angeles, Torres allegedly told his employees not to talk to police. Instead he went to a drug dealer named Ignacio Meza and told him to retaliate against the Primera Flats street gang, which he held responsible for the killing, according to the indictment.
In May 1993, Meza fired a .45-caliber firearm out of his car window, killing a member of the gang, the indictment said.
In 1994, Torres allegedly tasked Meza again, this time to kill a man who claimed to be an associate of the Mexican Mafia demanding a "tax" to leave Numero Uno alone, the indictment said. Meza shot him to death on a sidewalk outside the Jefferson Street market, prosecutors allege
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mayugastank wrote:Grocer faces charges of racketeering
Owner of the Numero Uno =lol
* He beailling a member of the gang, the indictment said.
In 1994, Torres allegedly tasked Meza again, this time to kill a man who claimed to be an associate of the Mexican Mafia demanding a "tax" to leave Numero Uno alone, the indictment said. Meza shot him to death on a sidewalk outside the Jefferson Street market, prosecutors allege
Thats deep! They were taking out eme ttoo?
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mayugastank wrote:I read an article where Chapo Guzman had a guy working for him in LA who transported hundreds of millions of dollars and coke thru his grocery chain, major organized crime......guess who tried to tax that guy? The EME associate would eventually get murked for trying but they would come back and kill dudes 2 brothers and bring his business to the end. We are talking about teh worlds largest supplier of drugs getting taxed for his shipments.
No EME did not end George's business the feds did. His business was doing just fine until he got hit with RICO charges.
The government forced him to give up his grocery chain, EME had nothing to do with it.
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Essential LA EME did bring his business down -one of the major cases against George was the murder of the EME associate who tried taxing him. His attorney said that he was severaly attacked while in custody its obvious who attacked him?**MNJMC.....if you would like to start a thread where me and you go head to head with spectators and judges declaring whom is correct just let me know sweetheart=>xoxoxox...
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youngspade wrote:mayugastank wrote:Grocer faces charges of racketeering
Owner of the Numero Uno =lol
* He beailling a member of the gang, the indictment said.
In 1994, Torres allegedly tasked Meza again, this time to kill a man who claimed to be an associate of the Mexican Mafia demanding a "tax" to leave Numero Uno alone, the indictment said. Meza shot him to death on a sidewalk outside the Jefferson Street market, prosecutors allege
Thats deep! They were taking out eme ttoo?
YEA I guess so......dude got hit bad when he got locked up. I aint sure what happened but this Torrez was the biggest distributor on the West Coast at one point -the guy who killed the EMEROs family members where murked. His 2 brothers got hit afterwards-Torrez was pretty fearful of the EME since the Arellanos wherre already on his ass and then they tipped the EME to his business
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mnjmc wrote:mayugastank wrote:I read an article where Chapo Guzman had a guy working for him in LA who transported hundreds of millions of dollars and coke thru his grocery chain, major organized crime......guess who tried to tax that guy? The EME associate would eventually get murked for trying but they would come back and kill dudes 2 brothers and bring his business to the end. We are talking about teh worlds largest supplier of drugs getting taxed for his shipments.
No EME did not end George's business the feds did. His business was doing just fine until he got hit with RICO charges.
The government forced him to give up his grocery chain, EME had nothing to do with it.
APPPARENTLY HE WAS ON THE EME NUTSACK THOUGH! CLAIMING TO BE AN EME .....until they found out about his ass and tried to do him .........According to 1993 and 1997 DEA reports, Torres allegedly maintained a Jefferson Boulevard warehouse full of luxury vehicles, antique lowriders, and tractor-trailers used to move cocaine by concealing the drugs inside laundry detergent and jalapeño-chile cans. He and Vignali were identified as immediate targets of a drug-trafficking investigation, the reports state. The reports further state that the DEA had been informed that the Torres drug-trafficking outfit came into existence in the mid-1980s, distributing 1,800 kilos by the early 1990s.
A 1998 DEA report states that the elder Vignali was believed to be a financial partner in the Torres organization, allegedly setting up meetings between Torres and “individuals with extensive criminal backgrounds.” They were moving 100 kilos per month, the report states. In 1996, the report states, Torres’ grocery stores had sales of $50 million. Investigators believed he was laundering drug money through his stores and real estate transactions. Searight said the government lacks sufficient proof to file drug charges.
Public records show Torres and Vignali engaged in numerous multimillion-dollar property transactions, either as partners or on opposite sides of a deal. The elder Vignali was known as a well-heeled businessman who rubbed elbows with politicians. After his son was convicted, he contributed more than $160,000 to state and federal officeholders — as well as to many local officials, including Baca. Torres was described in DEA reports as a tattooed heavy who flaunted Mexican Mafia connections and liked to intimidate his adversaries
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Numero Uno Market Magnate Walks For Good After Feds Had Tried To Throw The Book At HimBy Dennis Romero, Wednesday, Dec. 23 2009 @ 4:10PMComments (0) Categories: Trials, community, crime, odd news, politics
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Property owned by George Torres.
This guy had more charges than an iPhone and shadier friends than Tom Sizemore, but George Torres, founder of the Numero Uno markets and onetime alleged racketeer, is off the hook. Feds earlier this year withdrew RICO charges against him, and now they're down to one count. Torres, who sold his stores, pleaded guilty to failing to collect payroll tax from his employees there. He's served his time, and the case is done.
We profiled his case earlier this year, noting that he was "charged with tax fraud, bribery and solicitation of murder in allegedly running his grocery store chain as a criminal enterprise" and that he also "flew in private jets to gamble in Las Vegas with drug dealers."
In fact, he could have faced life in prision after a federal jury found him guilty of 55 counts that included bribery and ordering hits on rivals. The Associated Press reports that Torres pleaded guilty to one count of failing to collect proper taxes from employees and was allowed to remain free because a judge determined he already served enough time awaiting and during his trial.
His was a rags to riches story, but there are strong indications he ran with the wrong crowd, even as he rubbed shoulders with area leaders such as Sheriff Lee Baca and former Los Angeles city Councilman Richard Alatorre.
LA Weekly reported, in fact, that "some of the most damning information never saw the cold light of a public trial in Judge [Steven V.] Wilson's courtroom. Wilson excluded evidence that suggested Torres not only befriended drug dealers who committed crimes for him, but got high with them as well. Wilson also excluded evidence that Torres had purchased a Mac-10 gun for a drug-dealer associate who Torres then allegedly instructed to kill on his behalf, until Torres allegedly had that associate killed for stealing from him."
What gives? Did he make a deal? Did he finger a friend? Inquiring minds want to know
SAD HOW A LITTLE $$$$$ MAKES EVEN THE WORST SINS BE WASHED AWAY _........
Numero Uno Market Magnate Walks For Good After Feds Had Tried To Throw The Book At HimBy Dennis Romero, Wednesday, Dec. 23 2009 @ 4:10PMComments (0) Categories: Trials, community, crime, odd news, politics
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Property owned by George Torres.
This guy had more charges than an iPhone and shadier friends than Tom Sizemore, but George Torres, founder of the Numero Uno markets and onetime alleged racketeer, is off the hook. Feds earlier this year withdrew RICO charges against him, and now they're down to one count. Torres, who sold his stores, pleaded guilty to failing to collect payroll tax from his employees there. He's served his time, and the case is done.
We profiled his case earlier this year, noting that he was "charged with tax fraud, bribery and solicitation of murder in allegedly running his grocery store chain as a criminal enterprise" and that he also "flew in private jets to gamble in Las Vegas with drug dealers."
In fact, he could have faced life in prision after a federal jury found him guilty of 55 counts that included bribery and ordering hits on rivals. The Associated Press reports that Torres pleaded guilty to one count of failing to collect proper taxes from employees and was allowed to remain free because a judge determined he already served enough time awaiting and during his trial.
His was a rags to riches story, but there are strong indications he ran with the wrong crowd, even as he rubbed shoulders with area leaders such as Sheriff Lee Baca and former Los Angeles city Councilman Richard Alatorre.
LA Weekly reported, in fact, that "some of the most damning information never saw the cold light of a public trial in Judge [Steven V.] Wilson's courtroom. Wilson excluded evidence that suggested Torres not only befriended drug dealers who committed crimes for him, but got high with them as well. Wilson also excluded evidence that Torres had purchased a Mac-10 gun for a drug-dealer associate who Torres then allegedly instructed to kill on his behalf, until Torres allegedly had that associate killed for stealing from him."
What gives? Did he make a deal? Did he finger a friend? Inquiring minds want to know
SAD HOW A LITTLE $$$$$ MAKES EVEN THE WORST SINS BE WASHED AWAY _........
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SNitching and money!
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mayugastank wrote:Essential LA EME did bring his business down -one of the major cases against George was the murder of the EME associate who tried taxing him. His attorney said that he was severaly attacked while in custody its obvious who attacked him?**MNJMC.....if you would like to start a thread where me and you go head to head with spectators and judges declaring whom is correct just let me know sweetheart=>xoxoxox...
Attorney's always say that about high profile people, they always make the argument that anyone that's rich can be a target for extortion in prison. That's why they usually seperate people like Torres away from the rest of the inmates.
You see this was I'm talking about here. You don't even know if his lawyer is lying of exaggerating but in your mind Torres was a victim of an EME beating. Then how come his body showed no signs of a beat down. Torres probably got PC from the get go.
Look Mayu there is a very interesting story with Torres and Vignali, things that involve the former president of the US Bill Clinton. And the only part of that story you choose to pay attention on was Eme's failled attempt of extorting Torres?
Now no matter what you say I never found any story of Eme retailiating for Torres ordering the hit of that guy from Primera Flats. Maybe you know something I don't, but to me it just sounds like more of your wishful thinking.
And Torres worked for the Arellanos and the Sinaloans. So the Arellanos couldn't be "on his ass" as you have said becaue they were business partners.