How many LA police, have been killed by gangs???

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How many LA police, have been killed by gangs???

Unread post by DOH » August 11th, 2003, 6:36 am

i was just wonderin how many police have been killed??

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Unread post by alexalonso » August 11th, 2003, 10:22 pm

There is a list of police officers from LAPD and other jurisdictions within LA County that have been smoked at:

http://www.streetgangs.com/features/060704_police_gangs

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Unread post by alexalonso » May 24th, 2008, 7:27 pm

is anyone suprised that 18 police officers in LA county have been killed by gang members? Is that higher than you thought or lower?

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Unread post by youngspade » May 24th, 2008, 11:05 pm

alexalonso wrote:is anyone suprised that 18 police officers in LA county have been killed by gang members? Is that higher than you thought or lower?
Im in between, But the Torrance T-Flats just shot at and HIT a sheriff helicopter. It was just on channel 5 news in the morning of Thrusday if im not mistaken. Anyone know about that?

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Unread post by chupon106 » May 27th, 2008, 9:35 pm

alexalonso wrote:is anyone suprised that 18 police officers in LA county have been killed by gang members? Is that higher than you thought or lower?
I'm suprised that it's that low. Look at the murder rates in the bad neighborhoods, some are unbelievably high and gang on gang violence is significantly worse than that. You would think these guys would be just as willing to kill a cop as they would to kill anybody else. But nah it aint like that, gangsters will smoke each other and others with the quickness but not cops. Nowadays, you can't kill or even shoot a cop without being killed or arrested. But even with that, I would still think the hardest gangsters with no regard for the law or their future would care. Me personally, I would whoop a cops ass if he really crossed the line but I wouldn't try to kill him cuz that would more than likely be the rest of my life I would be paying with.

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Unread post by alexalonso » May 27th, 2008, 9:48 pm

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alexalonso wrote:is anyone suprised that 18 police officers in LA county have been killed by gang members? Is that higher than you thought or lower?
I'm suprised that it's that low. Look at the murder rates in the bad neighborhoods, some are unbelievably high and gang on gang violence is significantly worse than that. You would think these guys would be just as willing to kill a cop as they would to kill anybody else. But nah it aint like that, gangsters will smoke each other and others with the quickness but not cops. Nowadays, you can't kill or even shoot a cop without being killed or arrested. But even with that, I would still think the hardest gangsters with no regard for the law or their future would care. Me personally, I would whoop a cops ass if he really crossed the line but I wouldn't try to kill him because that would more than likely be the rest of my life I would be paying with.

good point, also some of those gang members that killed cops weren't even active with the gang when it occurred. Just a few though.

Also since that first cop killed in 1988, it seems that on average 1 cop per year is murdered in LA COunty but notice the gaps in time between murders.

1. Sept 4, 1988 - Feb 1, 1993 = 4 years 4 months 27 days
I find this interesting that over 4 years during the height of gang violence, which was double now had no cops killed. The is the largest gap in time between gang cop murders.

2. November 30, 1998 - April 29, 2000 = 1 year 4 months 29 days

3. May 1, 2000 - November 9, 2003 = 3 years 6 months 8 days
This is the second largest gap in time between cop killings by gang members.

4. June 25, 2005 - NOW = 2 years 11 months 27 days
Currently it is going on three years since a cop that was killed by a gang member.

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Unread post by Vincetheprince » November 19th, 2008, 7:45 pm

some cop got killed i think in NELA this august or september, i think by an avenue clique but I'm not sure which one

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Unread post by CUETLACHTLI » March 2nd, 2009, 3:17 am

i heard about that^^..........

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Unread post by H572DSTA » March 2nd, 2009, 8:06 am

anyone remembers when Regis Thomas from Bounty Hunnaz killed the 2 officers K.Burrel and j.MacDonnald 1993 in compton???
He on Death row now

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Unread post by 282828 » March 2nd, 2009, 11:10 am

hawaiin gardens killed a deputy 2 years ago, theyre catchin the blues for that shit in the county jail to this day. avenues are probably catchin it right now too cause they just killed one. mc force killed a cop a few years back. what other nieghborhoods killed cops?? its usually not a good idea to kill a cop cause they shut your shit down but theyve been killing us for years so fuck it. and vineland boys killed a burbank cop.

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Unread post by CUETLACHTLI » March 5th, 2009, 3:50 am

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Unread post by advocate » January 7th, 2010, 12:02 am

Culver City 13 killed an officer also I believe

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alexalonso wrote:
chupon106 wrote:
alexalonso wrote:is anyone suprised that 18 police officers in LA county have been killed by gang members? Is that higher than you thought or lower?
I'm suprised that it's that low. Look at the murder rates in the bad neighborhoods, some are unbelievably high and gang on gang violence is significantly worse than that. You would think these guys would be just as willing to kill a cop as they would to kill anybody else. But nah it aint like that, gangsters will smoke each other and others with the quickness but not cops. Nowadays, you can't kill or even shoot a cop without being killed or arrested. But even with that, I would still think the hardest gangsters with no regard for the law or their future would care. Me personally, I would whoop a cops ass if he really crossed the line but I wouldn't try to kill him because that would more than likely be the rest of my life I would be paying with.

good point, also some of those gang members that killed cops weren't even active with the gang when it occurred. Just a few though.

Also since that first cop killed in 1988, it seems that on average 1 cop per year is murdered in LA COunty but notice the gaps in time between murders.

1. Sept 4, 1988 - Feb 1, 1993 = 4 years 4 months 27 days
I find this interesting that over 4 years during the height of gang violence, which was double now had no cops killed. The is the largest gap in time between gang cop murders.

2. November 30, 1998 - April 29, 2000 = 1 year 4 months 29 days

3. May 1, 2000 - November 9, 2003 = 3 years 6 months 8 days
This is the second largest gap in time between cop killings by gang members.

4. June 25, 2005 - NOW = 2 years 11 months 27 days
Currently it is going on three years since a cop that was killed by a gang member.
you remember those two cops killed on the crans in 1993?...few dayz later they made sweeps in every hood arresting niggaz from NHP WSP CPP....but the guy who did that was from hunnaz

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Unread post by bgcasper » May 4th, 2010, 7:49 pm

yeah true the cops was killed not far from grandees and they first suspected nbcc arch rival that was wsp war vs nutty era ...and also who remember the cops killed by 18 st was it smilley drive ???
anyway this is spectacular to c how low is the number of cops killed !!!!

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Unread post by youngspade » October 23rd, 2012, 8:57 pm

Alonso can yu update dis??

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Unread post by ViciousRidah » October 24th, 2012, 1:47 am

chupon106 wrote:
alexalonso wrote:is anyone suprised that 18 police officers in LA county have been killed by gang members? Is that higher than you thought or lower?
I'm suprised that it's that low. Look at the murder rates in the bad neighborhoods, some are unbelievably high and gang on gang violence is significantly worse than that. You would think these guys would be just as willing to kill a cop as they would to kill anybody else. But nah it aint like that, gangsters will smoke each other and others with the quickness but not cops. Nowadays, you can't kill or even shoot a cop without being killed or arrested. But even with that, I would still think the hardest gangsters with no regard for the law or their future would care. Me personally, I would whoop a cops ass if he really crossed the line but I wouldn't try to kill him because that would more than likely be the rest of my life I would be paying with.
Statistics like that are not always conclusive,those stats show how much perps were caught for murdering cops, I remember looking online and there were at least 80 police officers killed from the 80s to the mid 2000s.

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Unread post by Quepolo3 » October 24th, 2012, 5:36 am

The Late Big Jake Robles discussed this issue in the movie Dead Homiez. His position was that if you are a real gangster and you can shoot up 4 or 5 black people and have an arsenal of weapons, why when the police get behind you, you just surrender? I often wonder this as well. It's probably because as someone has already stated the penalties would be much greater for that offense than for just killing a black or hispanic gang member.

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Unread post by alexalonso » October 25th, 2012, 1:18 am

advocate wrote:Culver City 13 killed an officer also I believe
who?

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Unread post by alexalonso » October 25th, 2012, 1:20 am

282828 wrote:hawaiin gardens killed a deputy 2 years ago, theyre catchin the blues for that shit in the county jail to this day. avenues are probably catchin it right now too cause they just killed one. mc force killed a cop a few years back. what other nieghborhoods killed cops?? its usually not a good idea to kill a cop cause they shut your shit down but theyve been killing us for years so fu-- it. and vineland boys killed a burbank cop.
that was back in 2005, and the caught the blues for real for what one guy did. Gang injunction, federal indictment, RICO, etc.

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Unread post by alexalonso » October 25th, 2012, 1:22 am

Vincetheprince wrote:some cop got killed i think in NELA this august or september, i think by an avenue clique but I'm not sure which one
Dep. Juan Abel Escalante was killed by Carlos Velasquez but the deputy was off duty.

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Unread post by advocate » October 26th, 2012, 12:01 am

Dont know what his name was.....I once took a class where we ended up going to Hollenbeck to hear from police officers. One of them was telling us how an old partner of his was killed by CXC. I had also heard about this before going to that station.

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Unread post by advocate » October 26th, 2012, 12:07 am

Actually I know there was an officer involved shooting where an officer died which involved Inglewood 13 & CXC. The hollenbeck officer did still metnion though that an old partner of his was killed by them (CXC), but he never mentioned a name.

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Unread post by youngspade » October 26th, 2012, 1:25 am

Inglewood 13 still taking trips to CXC? Damn how old is this??!!

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advocate wrote:Dont know what his name was.....I once took a class where we ended up going to Hollenbeck to hear from police officers. One of them was telling us how an old partner of his was killed by CXC. I had also heard about this before going to that station.
what year?

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Unread post by advocate » October 27th, 2012, 12:10 am

The Inglewood/CXC thing was a while back....maybe late 90's?

Honestly Alonso, Im not sure on the year....the hollenbeck officer never gave a year. I had mentioned something about my family's neighborhood & CXC & thats when he said that about his old partner.

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Unread post by youngspade » October 27th, 2012, 2:53 am

Thats what i thought.

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Unread post by alexalonso » October 29th, 2012, 12:37 pm

I would like to update the list if I am missing any ON-DUTY officers or deputies in LA COUNTY that were killed by gang members. I may consider adding OFF-DUTY cops too. Am I missing anyone other than Escalante?

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Unread post by youngspade » October 29th, 2012, 2:08 pm

On or Off duty doesnt matter in court so why should we care lol??!

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Unread post by alexalonso » October 29th, 2012, 8:01 pm

youngspade wrote:On or Off duty doesnt matter in court so why should we care lol??!
the reason I make the distinction is because if a cop is off duty and not in uniform, the shooter may not know the person is a police officer. That certainly takes the death penalty off the table. When Kirkton Moore of 62 Brim shot and killed Officer Pratt in 1988, he had no clue he was shooting the police, because the cops were under cover in an Iroc-Z following him.

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Unread post by youngspade » October 29th, 2012, 8:43 pm

He either had two thoughts enemies or cops...

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Unread post by H572DSTA » October 31st, 2012, 7:29 am

I recently talked to a older head from the nickersons who told me how his house got raided because the hunnaz killed a police officer back in the mid 70s

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Unread post by alexalonso » November 15th, 2012, 6:30 pm

H572DSTA wrote:I recently talked to a older head from the nickersons who told me how his house got raided because the hunnaz killed a police officer back in the mid 70s
I am not aware of any LAPD officer killed from Southeast Division during the 1970s in the Nickerson but I will look it up.

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