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Who does MS13 beef with other than 18th St?

Almost everyone in LA

crm wrote:Who does MS13 beef with other than 18th St?

18st
Crazy riders
Drifters
Harpys
Playboys
Mid city stoners
Saint Andrews
Aztlans
Clanton 14
Those are all gangs they have had gunplay with. They have more enemies and i don't know who they beef with in North Hollywood or the valley.

Yeah they pretty much beef with everyone....even hoods they aint close by don't get along with them.

In the valley I know they don't get along with Alley Locos, North Hollywood Locos (they beef with both right there near Valley Glen), Barrio Van Nuys, Vanowen St Locos, Valerio, Blythe, etc.

They got beef with almost every hood around Rampart/Pico Union area like Pico2jeff said... Rockwood, Temple, Wanderers, VVR to name a few more.

I know even over on the westside, Venice & Culver I think had issues with them...I know MS killed a guy from Venice back in the day.

They're only like in 3 main areas in LA right? Pico Union/Rampart, the valley (Valley Glen area specifically) & Hollywood?

crm wrote:Who does MS13 beef with other than 18th St?

They're pretty much EBK.

advocate wrote:In the valley I know they don't get along with Alley Locos, North Hollywood Locos (they beef with both right there near Valley Glen), Barrio Van Nuys, Vanowen St Locos, Valerio, Blythe, etc.

MS beefs with everyone in the Valley.

They even beef with tagging crews

Do they beef w any crip or blood sets ?

Is that how every gang in LA is? Or are there gangs that have more alliances than others? I figured everybody in LA was EBK, and all of them just cant get along, although it seems that MS13 is universally hated city wide. I read on here that they seem to get along with R20's and BPS Bloods but I'll assume that's only because of common enemies, namely 18st and that they feud with other black gang sets whether they be bloods or crips.

crm wrote:Is that how every gang in LA is? Or are there gangs that have more alliances than others? I figured everybody in LA was EBK, and all of them just cant get along, although it seems that MS13 is universally hated city wide. I read on here that they seem to get along with R20's and BPS Bloods but I'll assume that's only because of common enemies, namely 18st and that they feud with other black gang sets whether they be bloods or crips.

Not every gang in LA is EBK. Some gangs, like you said, have alliances (some more than others) and some don't have any allies, but MS is hated by everyone even in cities/regions where there's no MS hoods (like San Diego or the IE). I've never heard of MS beefing with Crips or Bloods but i could be wrong.

Sur gangs can’t have alliances with black gangs.
SUR gangs rarely have alliances with each other but black gangs do have alliances with other black gangs. Theirs a lot of EBK gangs in LA.

SUR gangs Can get along with black gangs but no alliance

What is it about MS that makes them hated? Is it particular rivalries or just the way the MS gang operates? Maybe the excessive media coverage. In LA they seem like a hood like any other. They put in work just like the next hood. Are they more fierce than others goups? Outside of LA they are made out to be this ferocious supergang hacking random kids with machetes. Are they like that in LA? Or do they just shoot people like other hoods do? They were going around hacking people to death with machetes in LA then I would imagine that they would develop a fearsome reputation. Although maybe they just pull that in areas where there is less an established gang presence and they end up looking fierce simply because they are targeting innocent kids or wanabees.

crm wrote:Who does MS13 beef with other than 18th St?

They beef with all the hoods in Hollywood.
They are around Western and Santa Monica

LAResident wrote:Sur gangs can’t have alliances with black gangs.
SUR gangs rarely have alliances with each other but black gangs do have alliances with other black gangs. Theirs a lot of EBK gangs in LA.

There are no Everybody killa. Alot of gangs nowadays be writing Ebk on the walls to look strong i guess but they don't bang that shit when they run into muthafuckas by themselves and thats whats pissin me off today. 18st is the main gang writing Ebk but get along with most crips. Just like Hoover criminals always write ck, bk, gk, and sometimes Ebk but get along with Inglewood family, 83 gangsta, Bps, some pirus, grape st and alot more crips, bloods, and surs. Now the Surenos that claim Ebk get locked up and don't bang that shit and are cool with mostly everyone. Muthafuckas still be getting down with their close enemies but are aligned as Surenos. Alot of these kids that be net banging are worse. They get to Central, Sylmar, or Lp and ve hanging with anybody. Some even forget what hood their from. That Ebk is BS and muthafuckas need to stop faking.

I think the main reason MS doesn’t have any allies
Is originally due to the fact that there Salvadoran and
not Mexican..racial

One thing I can say is that MS be raping women and that’s a no no that’s why a lot of hoods don’t like them. They do shady ass shit to people...they whole mentality is different than traditional Mexican gangs.

The CV Tortilla Flats are somewhat an EBK gang right? Cause they don't get along with all the sur, pirus & crips in Compton? Are they aligned with anyone or keep it cool with any hoods out there?

And even though MS have beef with a lot of hoods, who aside from 18 has MS gone at it with the most? Are there a few other hoods they hate as much as 18?

I just heard MS started beefing it with Diamond Street a few weeks ago from a friend who's brother is from DST. I don't know why it started but supposedly DST just smoked a guy from MS after they were trying to post up ob their block. Ever since that MS and DST have been crossing eachother out on the walls

LAResident wrote:One thing I can say is that MS be raping women and that’s a no no that’s why a lot of hoods don’t like them. They do shady ass shit to people...they whole mentality is different than traditional Mexican gangs.

Yeah. I was talking to a Florence OG the other day and he said although Florencia doesn't beef with MS, and he said he hates them because they got no code... Raping/killing women and kids is why he hates them so much specifically.

MaximumCarnage wrote:

LAResident wrote:One thing I can say is that MS be raping women and that’s a no no that’s why a lot of hoods don’t like them. They do shady ass shit to people...they whole mentality is different than traditional Mexican gangs.

Yeah. I was talking to a Florence OG the other day and he said although Florencia doesn't beef with MS, and he said he hates them because they got no code... Raping/killing women and kids is why he hates them so much specifically.

Not all MS’s do that but some do I know few cats from their and my wife’s cousins are MS’s too...I hear stories all the time about them that’s why I know about shit they do...they are worse in El Salvador...

LAResident wrote:

MaximumCarnage wrote:

LAResident wrote:One thing I can say is that MS be raping women and that’s a no no that’s why a lot of hoods don’t like them. They do shady ass shit to people...they whole mentality is different than traditional Mexican gangs.

Yeah. I was talking to a Florence OG the other day and he said although Florencia doesn't beef with MS, and he said he hates them because they got no code... Raping/killing women and kids is why he hates them so much specifically.

Not all MS’s do that but some do I know few cats from their and my wife’s cousins are MS’s too...I hear stories all the time about them that’s why I know about shit they do...they are worse in El Salvador...

I thought F13 beefed it with MS?

In California, MS will get greenlighted by the eMe if they break the Sureno rules, which is probably why you don't hear about MS doing all these brutal things in LA like they do in El Salvador.

LosAngeles94 wrote:I think the main reason MS doesn’t have any allies
Is originally due to the fact that there Salvadoran and
not Mexican..racial

There's other Sureno gangs besides MS that have Salvadorian members, so it may not exactly be racial...

ValleyKid wrote:

LosAngeles94 wrote:I think the main reason MS doesn’t have any allies
Is originally due to the fact that there Salvadoran and
not Mexican..racial

There's other Sureno gangs besides MS that have Salvadorian members, so it may not exactly be racial...

Do you know what racial means??
Salvadorians and Mexicans are in the same racial group...

Culturally Mexicans and Salvadorians are different...
Same race different culture

ValleyKid wrote:

LAResident wrote:

MaximumCarnage wrote:

LAResident wrote:One thing I can say is that MS be raping women and that’s a no no that’s why a lot of hoods don’t like them. They do shady ass shit to people...they whole mentality is different than traditional Mexican gangs.

Yeah. I was talking to a Florence OG the other day and he said although Florencia doesn't beef with MS, and he said he hates them because they got no code... Raping/killing women and kids is why he hates them so much specifically.

Not all MS’s do that but some do I know few cats from their and my wife’s cousins are MS’s too...I hear stories all the time about them that’s why I know about shit they do...they are worse in El Salvador...

I thought F13 beefed it with MS?

In California, MS will get greenlighted by the eMe if they break the Sureno rules, which is probably why you don't hear about MS doing all these brutal things in LA like they do in El Salvador.

The Florence Vet said that they're not at war but that he, and a lot of other members, generally just don't like them. But im pretty sure the only reason they don't really beef is because they're just close enough geographically to really war. MS is mainly NorthWest LA and Florence is South and some SouthEast.

LAResident wrote:

ValleyKid wrote:

LosAngeles94 wrote:I think the main reason MS doesn’t have any allies
Is originally due to the fact that there Salvadoran and
not Mexican..racial

There's other Sureno gangs besides MS that have Salvadorian members, so it may not exactly be racial...

Do you know what racial means??
Salvadorians and Mexicans are in the same racial group...

Yes I do know what "racial" means. I meant to say that MS may not necessarily be hated on just because they're not Mexican but for the brutal stuff they've done.

ValleyKid wrote:

advocate wrote:In the valley I know they don't get along with Alley Locos, North Hollywood Locos (they beef with both right there near Valley Glen), Barrio Van Nuys, Vanowen St Locos, Valerio, Blythe, etc.

MS beefs with everyone in the Valley.

not everybody , they dont beef with pacoima barrios as much as they do with the van nuys / north hills area
they are hated on that side of town

istekse818 wrote:

ValleyKid wrote:

advocate wrote:In the valley I know they don't get along with Alley Locos, North Hollywood Locos (they beef with both right there near Valley Glen), Barrio Van Nuys, Vanowen St Locos, Valerio, Blythe, etc.

MS beefs with everyone in the Valley.

not everybody , they dont beef with pacoima barrios as much as they do with the van nuys / north hills area
they are hated on that side of town

Those Pacoima barrios hate MS anyways lol, like everyone else.

Is it just me or are Hispanic gangs beef with other Hispanic gangs more than Black gangs beef with other Black gangs?

This is despite the fact that Hispanic gangs are more likely to unite and be more organized in prisons for the "raza", and to an extent on the street (like when Culver City joined their enemies Venice 13 to go at the Shorelines)...

With Black gangs, even though they beef with each other, you are more likely to see alliances/cards/umbrellas among multiple hoods -- Deuces, Treys, Hustlers, Mafias, Hoovers, East Coast, etc. BPS and Rollin 20s are basically family and almost like one gang. I don't really see the strong alliances... even West Side and East Side Longos went at it at one time. Maravilla hoods all hate each other. The different Wilmas hoods don't get along. You aren't going to see different Hoover sets beefing.

I’ve always noticed that too. It used to be common among the Chicano gangs to hear “that’s a get along gang.” Be thrown around as a put down towards other gangs that supposedly got along with another gang. It was looked at as some kind of weakness If you allied yourself with another gang. Then there was the mentality of “‘my gang’ Fuck The Rest.” And ironically as you mentioned they go on to become strong allies anyway inside prison.

With Blacks, it might be different due to how Bloods and Crips formed as alliances in the first place. Like Crips going around and recruiting and absorbing different hoods and Bloods being the resistance. But over time many alliances broke apart and some managed to remain in tact. I don’t know, just a theory.