Is there LA gangs have 2 names like OC gangs.

[shaolinmonche]

Not all but A lot of OC gangs have two names. I don't necessarily considered them cliques. Usually cliques change names every generation. But in OC they keep these names for decades.
For Example
Orange Varrio Cypress - Los Creepers
Delhi - Los Aces
Logan - Los Dominoes
Santa Nita - Los Dramatics
Anaheim Underhill - Los Cyclones
Anaheim Folks - Los Vagos Malditos
Eastside Santa Ana - Los Rebels
Anaheim Barrio Small Town- Los Tiny Winos
Anaheim Boyz From The Hood - Los Sick Fucks or Los Sick Ones
Pearl St - Los J Boys
Fifth St. - Los Diablos
Santa Ana Small Town - Los Bandits
Brownside - Los Hustlers
West Side Santa Ana - Los Compradres
South Side Santa Ana - Los 187s
Jeffrey St. - Varrio Tijuas/Tijuanita
Citron St - Los Bad Boys
MidWay City - Los Knightowls
I can keep going but I think you get the point.

[AmericanZombie]

You mean like, Bassett Grande Los Nite Owls and Pomona 12 St Sharkies?

[triplethreat]

SS Huntington Beach is Los Playeros. And Varrio Midway City correct spelling is Los Nite Owls.

[Lonewolf]

that's a good topic, it shows how diff counties have diff ways of doing things
in Los, you don't see that that much, i guess you can make the argument of varrios like
SEPAS ~> Langdon Street and SOL VALLE Diablos, but it's not quite the same as OxC
or ESL Barrio Viejo and ESL Latin Town Playboys, that's two diff gangs merging into another gang "ESL"
but again, it's not the same as in Orange County
SGV and OxC do it like that, and if you look at if from a from a diff angle, so does SD
ShellTown 38th Street and Gamma Boys operate as their own but their from the same VST
OTNC Insane Boys, Olden Boys, Enano Boys all operate as their own
Otay 13, Rasta Boys, River Bottom Locos, operate separately but they're from teh same gang VLO
on and on, in SD they're from ,the same varrio but it is almost as if each clique operates as their own self

[Lonewolf]

Canoga Park / Alabama Street
Onterio Varrio Sur / Black Angels
Weigand / Colonia Watts
Peaceful Valley / Peaceful Varrio Norwalk
Little River Valley / Frog Town
Park Western Loma / Park Western San Pedro

[AmericanZombie]

that's a good topic, it shows how diff counties have diff ways of doing things
in Los, you don't see that that much, i guess you can make the argument of varrios like
SEPAS ~> Langdon Street and SOL VALLE Diablos, but it's not quite the same as OxC
or ESL Barrio Viejo and ESL Latin Town Playboys, that's two diff gangs merging into another gang "ESL"
but again, it's not the same as in Orange County
SGV and OxC do it like that, and if you look at if from a from a diff angle, so does SD
ShellTown 38th Street and Gamma Boys operate as their own but their from the same VST
OTNC Insane Boys, Olden Boys, Enano Boys all operate as their own
Otay 13, Rasta Boys, River Bottom Locos, operate separately but they're from teh same gang VLO
on and on, in SD they're from ,the same varrio but it is almost as if each clique operates as their own self

I always found it’s an interesting topic. The different counties definitely do things a little different as far as how cliques and names work. I noticed that in my years of studying Inland Empire gangs on how they mostly consider their “cliques” to be gangs, and then there’s the barrio that they fall under. Even some SGV can get confusing like that when you think about La Puente, there’s different cliques and then there’s different hoods, and then there’s the ones that claim Puente 13 but the cliques beef which makes them like seperate gangs. Bassett at one time had three different gangs, Bassett Grande, Bassett Chico, and Bassett 13 Locos. Same neighborhood, three gangs. But they didn’t call them cliques, even though that’s probably what they amounted to.

[shaolinmonche]

SS Huntington Beach is Los Playeros. And Varrio Midway City correct spelling is Los Nite Owls.

quote="triplethreat"]SS Huntington Beach is Los Playeros. And Varrio Midway City correct spelling is Los Nite Owls.[/quote]

Oh yeah I forgot about SSHB Los Playeros.

In OC First they put their hood/gang. Then the 13. Then they put what they are. If they makes sense.
For Example Crow Village 13 Los Dirty Birds
Crow Village is the Varrio/gang and Los Dirty Birds is what they are.

Here's some more examples
Orange County Criminals 13 Los Felons
Pauline St 13 Los Evil Ones
Dog Town 13 Los Perros
Varrio San Clemente 13 Chicos
Varrio San Juan Capistrano 13 Viejos
Krazy Proud Criminals 13 Los Malos
Calle Walnut 13 Los Malditos
Kodiak St 13 Los Snipers
Varrio Modena Locos 13 Los Royal Descents
Travelers City 13 Los Malos
Brownwood - Los Cali Stars
Middle Side 13 Los Chicos
Sullivan St 13 Los Vagos
United By Crime 13 Los Cartels
Golden West 13 Los Stoners
South Side Santa Ana 13 Los 187s or Los Reapers
Evergreen St 13 Lokotes
West Trece - Tiny Lokos
Lyon St 13 Los Lastsiders
6th St. 13 Los Sons of Hell
Townsend 13 Los Ruthless
Lowell St 13 Los Sinners
Bishop St 13 Los Evil Ones
Dead End Familia 13 Los Muertos
17st 13 Los Road Kings
Highland St 13 Los Soldiers
Townsend 13 Los Ruthless
Wicked Ones 13 Los Villians
West Myrtle 13 Los Dead End Lokos
Lil Minnie St 13 Los Bullies
Dark Side 13 Los Tiny Assassins
Hard Times 13 Los Diablitos
East Side Buena Park 13 Los Demonios
West Side Buena Park 13 Los Coyotes
Second St 13 Los Sharks
Brook St 13 Los Psychos
FxTroop 13 Malditos
East Side La Habra 13 Los Monos
West Side La Habra 13 Los Campos
SS La Habra AlleyWays Crimes 13 Los Coast Siders
EastSide Anaheim 13 Los Anna Drivers
South Side Brown Demons 13 Los Kings
Vermont St 13 Los Malvados
McClay St 13 Los Magics
La Jolla 13 Los Mad Ones

[AmericanZombie]

SS Huntington Beach is Los Playeros. And Varrio Midway City correct spelling is Los Nite Owls.

quote="triplethreat"]SS Huntington Beach is Los Playeros. And Varrio Midway City correct spelling is Los Nite Owls.

Oh yeah I forgot about SSHB Los Playeros.

In OC First they put their hood/gang. Then the 13. Then they put what they are. If they makes sense.
For Example Crow Village 13 Los Dirty Birds
Crow Village is the Varrio/gang and Los Dirty Birds is what they are.

Here's some more examples
Orange County Criminals 13 Los Felons
Pauline St 13 Los Evil Ones
Dog Town 13 Los Perros
Varrio San Clemente 13 Chicos
Varrio San Juan Capistrano 13 Viejos
Krazy Proud Criminals 13 Los Malos
Calle Walnut 13 Los Malditos
Kodiak St 13 Los Snipers
Varrio Modena Locos 13 Los Royal Descents
Travelers City 13 Los Malos
Brownwood - Los Cali Stars
Middle Side 13 Los Chicos
Sullivan St 13 Los Vagos
United By Crime 13 Los Cartels
Golden West 13 Los Stoners
South Side Santa Ana 13 Los 187s or Los Reapers
Evergreen St 13 Lokotes
West Trece - Tiny Lokos
Lyon St 13 Los Lastsiders
6th St. 13 Los Sons of Hell
Townsend 13 Los Ruthless
Lowell St 13 Los Sinners
Bishop St 13 Los Evil Ones
Dead End Familia 13 Los Muertos
17st 13 Los Road Kings
Highland St 13 Los Soldiers
Townsend 13 Los Ruthless
Wicked Ones 13 Los Villians
West Myrtle 13 Los Dead End Lokos
Lil Minnie St 13 Los Bullies
Dark Side 13 Los Tiny Assassins
Hard Times 13 Los Diablitos
East Side Buena Park 13 Los Demonios
West Side Buena Park 13 Los Coyotes
Second St 13 Los Sharks
Brook St 13 Los Psychos
FxTroop 13 Malditos
East Side La Habra 13 Los Monos
West Side La Habra 13 Los Campos
SS La Habra AlleyWays Crimes 13 Los Coast Siders
EastSide Anaheim 13 Los Anna Drivers
South Side Brown Demons 13 Los Kings
Vermont St 13 Los Malvados
McClay St 13 Los Magics
La Jolla 13 Los Mad Ones[/quote]

That’s interesting, I never realized that about OC. The only similar examples I can come up with is in SGV. Pomona 12th St - Sharkies, Pomona Sur Olive St. 13 -Dolphins, Bassett Grande- Los Nite Owls, and maybe even Pomona Sur 13 -Cyclones.

In LA, it seems to be the name of the gang, and any other names that follow would be cliques and the cliques are usually geographically based.

[Lonewolf]

What about Indiana Dukes?

Or Casa Blanca and Corona?

[TheAngels]

W/S DIA 13 is a tagbanging crew called Down Into Action that turned gang and became Diablos 13. But they still refer to themselves as both.

OFA 13 is Oxford Avenue but also known as Out For Action and Out Fucking Around.

Yes I know there’s an unaffiliated tagging crew OFA that stands for Out For Action among other meanings, but I know OFA 13 has used the other names as well.

[AmericanZombie]

What about Indiana Dukes?

Or Casa Blanca and Corona?

I think Indiana Dukes is just the name by itself.

Corona has a lot of different names and cliques throughout its generations, but that’s different than having one second name.

The Casa Blanca example fits with Evans Street-Devil Wolves and Fern Street- Vagabundos.

[Lonewolf]

Here's some more example
Crow Village 13 Los Dirty Birds
Orange County Criminals 13 Los Felons
Pauline St 13 Los Evil Ones
Dog Town 13 Los Perros
Varrio San Clemente 13 Chicos
Varrio San Juan Capistrano 13 Viejos
Krazy Proud Criminals 13 Los Malos
Calle Walnut 13 Los Malditos
Kodiak St 13 Los Snipers
Varrio Modena Locos 13 Los Royal Descents
Travelers City 13 Los Malos
Brownwood - Los Cali Stars
Middle Side 13 Los Chicos
Sullivan St 13 Los Vagos
United By Crime 13 Los Cartels
Golden West 13 Los Stoners
South Side Santa Ana 13 Los 187s or Los Reapers
Evergreen St 13 Lokotes
West Trece - Tiny Lokos
Lyon St 13 Los Lastsiders
6th St. 13 Los Sons of Hell
Townsend 13 Los Ruthless
Lowell St 13 Los Sinners
Bishop St 13 Los Evil Ones
Dead End Familia 13 Los Muertos
17st 13 Los Road Kings
Highland St 13 Los Soldiers
Townsend 13 Los Ruthless
Wicked Ones 13 Los Villians
West Myrtle 13 Los Dead End Lokos
Lil Minnie St 13 Los Bullies
Dark Side 13 Los Tiny Assassins
Hard Times 13 Los Diablitos
East Side Buena Park 13 Los Demonios
West Side Buena Park 13 Los Coyotes
Second St 13 Los Sharks
Brook St 13 Los Psychos
FxTroop 13 Malditos
East Side La Habra 13 Los Monos
West Side La Habra 13 Los Campos
SS La Habra AlleyWays Crimes 13 Los Coast Siders
EastSide Anaheim 13 Los Anna Drivers
South Side Brown Demons 13 Los Kings
Vermont St 13 Los Malvados
McClay St 13 Los Magics
La Jolla 13 Los Mad Ones

.

Some of those listed do have additional cliques,
I know Crow Village has several older cliques than just the dirty birds, east side la habra has several cliques, los monos are their varrio diff than ESLH, also east side Buena Park has several cliques, FTroop and Hard Times also have several other cliques, but overall, yeah, most of those on the list are a single clique varrio.

[shaolinmonche]

W/S DIA 13 is a tagbanging crew called Down Into Action that turned gang and became Diablos 13. But they still refer to themselves as both.

OFA 13 is Oxford Avenue but also known as Out For Action and Out Fucking Around.

Yes I know there’s an unaffiliated tagging crew OFA that stands for Out For Action among other meanings, but I know OFA 13 has used the other names as well.

DIA went from Down Into Action to Deadly Insane Assassins to Diablos.

[TheAngels]

For Black Gangs:

Osage Legend Crips AKA Legend Crip Gang

Denver Lane Bloods AKA Figueroa Rider Gang

Fruit Town Brims AKA Infamous Gangster Brims

I'm not sure if "Yank Mob" is an alternate name for School Yard Crips, or a clique within SYC.

[Lonewolf]

East Side Pain / Ghost Town Bloods (Wilmington).

[TheAngels]

East Side Pain / Ghost Town Bloods (Wilmington).

True...

Is ESP/GTB still there? Heard a combination of injunctions and demographic changes means they don't really hold much of a presence there today, if at all.

I think East Side Wilmas has a "Ghost Town" clique in that same area... makes me wonder why that section is called Ghost Town. Both Blacks and Hispanics call that neighborhood that.

[shaolinmonche]

Some of those listed do have additional cliques,
I know Crow Village has several older cliques than just the dirty birds, east side la habra has several cliques, los monos are their varrio diff than ESLH, also east side Buena Park has several cliques, FTroop and Hard Times also have several other cliques, but overall, yeah, most of those on the list are a single clique varrio.[/quote]

I'm not too familiar with La Habra gangs. I've heard there are old gangs WSLH AND ESLH. Then there are gangs that claim WSLH and ESLH but aren't the original West Side and East Side gang. It's weird, but I can be wrong.
There's monos, Ward St, Campos, and some other ones I can't think of right now. The newest gang in La Habra would be SSLH AWC 13. Alley Way Crimes.

A lot of Santa Ana gangs back in the day were cliques of FxTroop. FxTroop used to be huge. They all eventually broke off and became their own gang. Even Orange Varrio Cypress in the city of Orange used to be a clique of FxTroop.
FxTroop stands for:
For The Reason Of Our People.

[Pico2jeff]

For Black Gangs:

Osage Legend Crips AKA Legend Crip Gang

Denver Lane Bloods AKA Figueroa Rider Gang

Fruit Town Brims AKA Infamous Gangster Brims

I'm not sure if "Yank Mob" is an alternate name for School Yard Crips, or a clique within SYC.

The IGBs from fruit town are basically a click of youngsters and they should be around 25 to 30 yrs old now. Im not sure if the youngsters nowadays still bang that but i know the niggas that started that and they were mostly from the 35st and 37st click. 38st brims were mostly older and i never met 1 from 36st so ftb don't count. Denver lane got clicks so they don't count.
74 street Hoover Criminal Gang bay bays
52 street Hoover Gangsta Crip hogs
107 street Hoover Criminal Gang selos
59 street East Coast Crip dirty minds
76 East Coast Crip shack boys
Those are better examples for black gangs. Pretty much all black gangs have clicks within their gang.

[Pico2jeff]

Do Drifters count because their 3 clicks are basically their own gang in different areas with their own territory?
Drifters 13 Pico Locos
Drifters 13 12st Bagos
Drifters 13 23st Malos

[TheAngels]

Do Drifters count because their 3 clicks are basically their own gang in different areas with their own territory?
Drifters 13 Pico Locos
Drifters 13 12st Bagos
Drifters 13 23st Malos

I would say "no" because they're still Drifters. Those are just the clique names or the name of their specific hood. Plenty of gangs have multiple hoods. MS-13, Florencia, 18th Street, etc.

[Pico2jeff]

Do Drifters count because their 3 clicks are basically their own gang in different areas with their own territory?
Drifters 13 Pico Locos
Drifters 13 12st Bagos
Drifters 13 23st Malos

I would say "no" because they're still Drifters. Those are just the clique names or the name of their specific hood. Plenty of gangs have multiple hoods. MS-13, Florencia, 18th Street, etc.

True but those gangs have more than 1 click in their hoods. 1 for the youngsters and 1 for the Ogs.

[Lonewolf]

I'm not too familiar with La Habra gangs. I've heard there are old gangs WSLH AND ESLH. Then there are gangs that claim WSLH and ESLH but aren't the original West Side and East Side gang. It's weird, but I can be wrong.
There's monos, Ward St, Campos, and some other ones I can't think of right now. The newest gang in La Habra would be SSLH AWC 13. Alley Way Crimes.

A lot of Santa Ana gangs back in the day were cliques of FxTroop. FxTroop used to be huge. They all eventually broke off and became their own gang. Even Orange Varrio Cypress in the city of Orange used to be a clique of FxTroop.
FxTroop stands for:
For The Reason Of Our People.

Orale, good 411 on that FTROOP acronym. For The Reason Of Our People

I thought that OVC and OVL (Cypress and Lemon) go back to the 1930's as neighborhoods?
Maybe they were not varrio gangs, but they most deff were mex enclaves going back to the 1920's.
Didn't figure on OVC being offshots of FTR? They're kind of far off from each other, no?

OVC has the Los Creepers, Los Assassins, Los Royal Dukes, and I think also the Old Town Cypress Locos

And simon, WSLH has Grandes, Enanos, Peewees and Tiny Locos cliques

e's LH has VARRIO MONOS Grace Street Locos
e's LH VARRIO WARD ST - Locos and Malditos cliques
w's LH VARRIO CAMPO (Campo Colorado, Campo Verde, Campo Corona and Campo Alta Vista)

ESBuenaPark has thw Lobos, Enanos, Diablos and also the Demonios (Demons).

CROW VILLAGE has Los Brown Descents, Big Locos, Lil Locos, Island Locos, Chapman clika and Los Dirty Birds.

...

What trips me out is how some varrios like to make themselves appear bigger by coming up with all these names fro their crowd
for example PVST Palma Vista Street ~> Los 1 Ways are the same as the Lake Park Gangsters and Steele Street Tiny Grovers (same crowd).

[Lonewolf]

East Side Pain / Ghost Town Bloods (Wilmington).

True...

Is ESP/GTB still there? Heard a combination of injunctions and demographic changes means they don't really hold much of a presence there today, if at all.

I think East Side Wilmas has a "Ghost Town" clique in that same area... makes me wonder why that section is called Ghost Town. Both Blacks and Hispanics call that neighborhood that.

orale, here i go on this one., when i first went in there in ghost town wilmas was back like in 1978 or 79, more like 79, but anyways, that place is right up next to the wilmas cemetery tucked in between the junk yards, north of pacific coast highway, separate little tucked in neighborhood north of east side wilmas. Back then, there were no ESW GTLs yet, but there were Locos from GHOST TOWN who were not from ESW, and those Locos and the PAIN got along. It was later feuds that raza had to take sides in that enclave, and so the ESW GTLs came up and they had beef with ESP, but it wasn't big pedo before mid 80s. ESW and ESP used to have good relations during the 1970s is my understanding. I have a couple of good homies from PEEDROH' buried at that cemetery. Maybe being right up next to the cemetery is what gives that place its name? If you saw old wilmas and you thought, damn, this place is old and gritty, well, ghost town was twice as much old and gritty, that's how it looked to me back then. lol, went off on an old memory, ha!

[Lonewolf]

W/S DIA 13 is a tagbanging crew called Down Into Action that turned gang and became Diablos 13. But they still refer to themselves as both.

OFA 13 is Oxford Avenue but also known as Out For Action and Out Fucking Around.

Yes I know there’s an unaffiliated tagging crew OFA that stands for Out For Action among other meanings, but I know OFA 13 has used the other names as well.

DIA went from Down Into Action to Deadly Insane Assassins to Diablos.

DIA do they have a south side l.a. clika now also?

[shaolinmonche]

I'm not too familiar with La Habra gangs. I've heard there are old gangs WSLH AND ESLH. Then there are gangs that claim WSLH and ESLH but aren't the original West Side and East Side gang. It's weird, but I can be wrong.
There's monos, Ward St, Campos, and some other ones I can't think of right now. The newest gang in La Habra would be SSLH AWC 13. Alley Way Crimes.

A lot of Santa Ana gangs back in the day were cliques of FxTroop. FxTroop used to be huge. They all eventually broke off and became their own gang. Even Orange Varrio Cypress in the city of Orange used to be a clique of FxTroop.
FxTroop stands for:
For The Reason Of Our People.

Orale, good 411 on that FTROOP acronym. For The Reason Of Our People

I thought that OVC and OVL (Cypress and Lemon) go back to the 1930's as neighborhoods?
Maybe they were not varrio gangs, but they most deff were mex enclaves going back to the 1920's.
Didn't figure on OVC being offshots of FTR? They're kind of far off from each other, no?

OVC has the Los Creepers, Los Assassins, Los Royal Dukes, and I think also the Old Town Cypress Locos

And simon, WSLH has Grandes, Enanos, Peewees and Tiny Locos cliques

e's LH has VARRIO MONOS Grace Street Locos
e's LH VARRIO WARD ST - Locos and Malditos cliques
w's LH VARRIO CAMPO (Campo Colorado, Campo Verde, Campo Corona and Campo Alta Vista)

ESBuenaPark has thw Lobos, Enanos, Diablos and also the Demonios (Demons).

CROW VILLAGE has Los Brown Descents, Big Locos, Lil Locos, Island Locos, Chapman clika and Los Dirty Birds.

...

What trips me out is how some varrios like to make themselves appear bigger by coming up with all these names fro their crowd
for example PVST Palma Vista Street ~> Los 1 Ways are the same as the Lake Park Gangsters and Steele Street Tiny Grovers (same crowd).

Never heard of OVL. Lemon St is in OVC hood. OVC original hood is super turnt down. Their gang injunction hella weakened their hood. Plus their hood is right by Chapman University. So they getting gentrified. One of their neighborhoods on Wilson and Glassell got taken over by Criminals. Yeah OVC hood is really old Mexican neighborhood.
Multiple veteranos from OVC have told me OVC was a clique of FXTROOP back in the day.
OVC be kicking on Tustin and Palmyra now away from the gang injunction zone.

That's true about Palma Vista. Some fool from PV told me he was from Eastside Palma Vista. Another time some other fool told me he was from West Side Palma Vista. I told him I thought y'all was Eastsiders. He said chale we got WS and ES PV we a big hood Lol

[TheAngels]

Also forgot... E/S 8th Street in Boyle Heights also calls themselves Varrio Wyvernwood Gardens, since those are their main apartments... You see them hit up the "V. WWG" sometimes.

[LAResident]

W/S DIA 13 is a tagbanging crew called Down Into Action that turned gang and became Diablos 13. But they still refer to themselves as both.

OFA 13 is Oxford Avenue but also known as Out For Action and Out Fucking Around.

Yes I know there’s an unaffiliated tagging crew OFA that stands for Out For Action among other meanings, but I know OFA 13 has used the other names as well.

DIA went from Down Into Action to Deadly Insane Assassins to Diablos.

DIA do they have a south side l.a. clika now also?

In cudahay

[Lonewolf]

W/S DIA 13 is a tagbanging crew called Down Into Action that turned gang and became Diablos 13. But they still refer to themselves as both.

OFA 13 is Oxford Avenue but also known as Out For Action and Out Fucking Around.

Yes I know there’s an unaffiliated tagging crew OFA that stands for Out For Action among other meanings, but I know OFA 13 has used the other names as well.

DIA went from Down Into Action to Deadly Insane Assassins to Diablos.

DIA do they have a south side l.a. clika now also?

In cudahay

Orale, maybe that's why they have a lot of placaso all around that area by Santa Fe Springs swap meet

[Lonewolf]

Do Drifters count because their 3 clicks are basically their own gang in different areas with their own territory?
Drifters 13 Pico Locos
Drifters 13 12st Bagos
Drifters 13 23st Malos

I would say "no" because they're still Drifters. Those are just the clique names or the name of their specific hood. Plenty of gangs have multiple hoods. MS-13, Florencia, 18th Street, etc.

Orale Pico, I see your point, kinda like the AVENUES, each one has their own hood - DREW, DIVISION, 60s, 57TH and 43rd, Each one has their own territory and both 57th and 43rd each have their own cliques, even though 57th claims allegiance to CYPRESS AVENUES, but 43rd is stand alone, so in a sense they do have two names for each, AVES this or AVES that, depends who shot at you, that's who you go back and shoot at.

[Pico2jeff]

Do Drifters count because their 3 clicks are basically their own gang in different areas with their own territory?
Drifters 13 Pico Locos
Drifters 13 12st Bagos
Drifters 13 23st Malos

I would say "no" because they're still Drifters. Those are just the clique names or the name of their specific hood. Plenty of gangs have multiple hoods. MS-13, Florencia, 18th Street, etc.

Orale Pico, I see your point, kinda like the AVENUES, each one has their own hood - DREW, DIVISION, 60s, 57TH and 43rd, Each one has their own territory and both 57th and 43rd each have their own cliques, even though 57th claims allegiance to CYPRESS AVENUES, but 43rd is stand alone, so in a sense they do have two names for each, AVES this or AVES that, depends who shot at you, that's who you go back and shoot at.

Basically what i was saying is all 3 Drifter hoods don't have clicks. Drifters 23rd street Malos is the name of the gang and the OGs and youngster been bangin that since day 1. Same with Drifters 12th street Bagos and Drifters Pico Locos. There territories are kinda far apart. 18st has multiple territories but those hoods have clicks like Smiley dr and Rimpau and some are basically a small click from a bigger click like the Tiny Locos around Jefferson and 9th avenue. The 3 Drifter hood are more like gangs than clicks.

[TheAngels]

Do Drifters count because their 3 clicks are basically their own gang in different areas with their own territory?
Drifters 13 Pico Locos
Drifters 13 12st Bagos
Drifters 13 23st Malos

I would say "no" because they're still Drifters. Those are just the clique names or the name of their specific hood. Plenty of gangs have multiple hoods. MS-13, Florencia, 18th Street, etc.

Orale Pico, I see your point, kinda like the AVENUES, each one has their own hood - DREW, DIVISION, 60s, 57TH and 43rd, Each one has their own territory and both 57th and 43rd each have their own cliques, even though 57th claims allegiance to CYPRESS AVENUES, but 43rd is stand alone, so in a sense they do have two names for each, AVES this or AVES that, depends who shot at you, that's who you go back and shoot at.

Basically what i was saying is all 3 Drifter hoods don't have clicks. Drifters 23rd street Malos is the name of the gang and the OGs and youngster been bangin that since day 1. Same with Drifters 12th street Bagos and Drifters Pico Locos. There territories are kinda far apart. 18st has multiple territories but those hoods have clicks like Smiley dr and Rimpau and some are basically a small click from a bigger click like the Tiny Locos around Jefferson and 9th avenue. The 3 Drifter hood are more like gangs than clicks.

I was saying if the Drifters all went by an alternate name besides "Drifters", whether it's the Pico Locos or 23rd Street or 12th Street. If they called themselves "Roamers" for example and all of their hoods adopted that name as an alternate...

18th Street Hollywood Gangsters is the name of the gang which has a couple cliques within it.

[Pico2jeff]

18st Hollywood Gangsters are their own hood but have clicks like Tiny Winos and Tiny Locos click While Drifters 23rd street Malos are just that like Orange Valley Cypress Los Creepers or 5th street Los Diablos but i get what your saying