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gang related music before gangsta rap

Unread post by Silencioso » August 12th, 2013, 12:48 pm

Gang themed music or gangster/gangbanger/hoodlum themed bands/artists that came before gangsta rap.

here's something I dug up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpXDXKilKjo

"Corner boy" was the Philly term for a homeboy/homie back in the day. "gang warring" was the term for gangbanging.

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Re: gang related music before gangsta rap

Unread post by Silencioso » August 12th, 2013, 12:52 pm

Ghetto Brothers was band that was connected to the Ghetto Brothers gang of New York.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRxakq9dJXE

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Re: gang related music before gangsta rap

Unread post by Silencioso » August 12th, 2013, 12:58 pm

Suicidal Tendencies, a punk/hardcore/thrash band that had a cholo image but rarely sung about gang specific themes. there were several Suicidal protégé bands at the time like No Mercy, Neighborhood Watch. Chaotic Noise, Rim Pests and Beowulf that had similar cholo image. Arguably this may have been the first true gang related genre. although it didn't last very long or make a big very big impact on the larger world of punk or thrash metal music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoF_a0-7xVQ

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Re: gang related music before gangsta rap

Unread post by Sentenza » August 12th, 2013, 1:27 pm

Only american stuff?

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Unread post by Cold Bear » August 13th, 2013, 8:16 am

Silencioso wrote:Ghetto Brothers was band that was connected to the Ghetto Brothers gang of New York.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRxakq9dJXE
so weird went to a show they did in the lower east side. bunch of latin bikers in there, definitely older men and women who represented a culture, I'm not gonna say gang culture but they were affiliated with each other. if you listen to their music though, it's straight up folk. I would compare them to Los Alacranes from San Diego.

Ghetto Brothers were very activist oriented similar to the Young Lords

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Unread post by Silencioso » August 13th, 2013, 1:12 pm

Sentenza wrote:Only american stuff?
No, any nationality is alright. In fact that would be great. The main thing is it has to be pre-gangsta rap.

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Unread post by Silencioso » August 13th, 2013, 1:18 pm

Cold Bear wrote:
Silencioso wrote:Ghetto Brothers was band that was connected to the Ghetto Brothers gang of New York.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRxakq9dJXE
so weird went to a show they did in the lower east side. bunch of latin bikers in there, definitely older men and women who represented a culture, I'm not gonna say gang culture but they were affiliated with each other. if you listen to their music though, it's straight up folk. I would compare them to Los Alacranes from San Diego.

Ghetto Brothers were very activist oriented similar to the Young Lords
I've heard a lot of GB's music and yeah most of it was light, like folk or very light rock. Their main song "Ghetto Brother Power" is cool though. It's like raw Latin rock. they should have stuck with that sound!

were any of those old latin bikers flying colors? What clubs?

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Unread post by Silencioso » August 13th, 2013, 1:36 pm

here's Oi! music. A style of punk rock from the early 80's, that was based off working class skins, punks and hooligans. Oi! bands generally dressed in skinhead. street punk or hooligan style and sung about running from cops, killing judges, football fights, riots, etc. This scene was more about working class pride and fighting oppressive authority than gang banging, though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dbj8B8JgIhQ

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Re: gang related music before gangsta rap

Unread post by Sentenza » August 13th, 2013, 1:37 pm

Silencioso wrote:
No, any nationality is alright. In fact that would be great. The main thing is it has to be pre-gangsta rap.
This is a russian song from 1923. Its a bout a female gang leader in russia called Murka. She betrays her gang and snitches to the cops, which gets her shot to death.

The genre is called blatnaya pesnya, "russian criminal song".

Some excerpts of the lyrics:

"It came to Odessa,
a gang from Amur
jailbirds, scum,
dirty deeds they did,
the Tscheka (cops) on their heels,
Boss was female Murka,
she was courageous and smart,
even the wildest guys feared her,
her, who was a professional thief"

Later on its about how they kill her for snitching to the cops and leave her dead body in the park with the drinkers (if i got that translated right).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP9Ub4iU6Ak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUaWnsYvvxg

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Unread post by Silencioso » August 13th, 2013, 1:50 pm

Heavy Metal bands in the late 70's and 80's often emulated outlaw biker in dress but were rarely affiliated with M.C.'s.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSsqavYIgNc

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Unread post by Sentenza » August 13th, 2013, 1:53 pm

Calabrian Mafia Music

While the sawn-off shotgun sings, the traitor screams and dies.
The hard and bitter law splits the traitor’s heart.
No one saw a thing. Whoever turns to God honors the saints.
Guilty or not guilty. Nobody spoke a word. Omertà. Omertà.
This is the law of our society. Laws that don’t forgive those who break their silence.
Blind, deaf and dumb am I. The man who speaks too much will never have it easy.
But whoever is deaf and blind and mute will live in peace for a hundred years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBDfdHItuso

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQDUX3GL96c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_1F0BYv8hI

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Re: gang related music before gangsta rap

Unread post by Silencioso » August 13th, 2013, 2:38 pm

great posts, Sentenza. I hadn't even considered old school organized crime having their own music styles. That's wild.

IMO pure gangsta music is where the artist/band has both gang affiliations AND sings/raps/talks about gang related themes.

In L.A. before gangsta rap broke out, every race had their own "gang music". Chicanos had oldies, blacks had P-funk and rap, whites had punk rock and heavy metal, Asians and Pinoy had various types of dance music. None of this music was truly gang related but it had gang associations to the listener and was part of the backdrop of gang life. This was driving music, hanging out music. Gang members would go to funk/rap/rock/punk/metal/oldies shows in force to rep their gangs. A P Funk show in L.A. back in the late 70's or early 80's would be like an all black version of the Warriors, there were so many Crips and Blood gangs repping. At punk shows you'd have LADS, FFF and Sui's all repping their gangs. If a Chicano themed band like Tierra or El Chicano played in L.A., you'd definitely have cholos showing up in force.

If you've seen the movie Colors, you know that with the exception of Ice T's song "Colors" that he wrote for the movie, the music is mostly straight up old school rap, oldies and even Spanish guitar music at one point LOL. By the time you get to Boyz In The Hood things have definitely changed. Gangsta Rap had arrived, big time.

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Unread post by bgcasper » August 14th, 2013, 12:24 am

san quentin funeral hymne for b dawg

baby avenue cribs freemont hi school raymond original gang initiation song from the begining

18 street national anthem lonewolf let them know

and before all that nk bulllshiit some hood or should i say varrio had a quite blacc hood song ...spectacular for niggaz killaz

crips and many other gang use dogg in their name while it sound blood well that song was like a h60d anthem for crips and bloods


this one is a coast nh car love song

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Unread post by comptonblockz » August 14th, 2013, 10:04 pm

Dope thread Si!

been looking for the 'crip dog' song for a few years,but nobody has any recollection of it
http://www.chacha.com/question/who-sang ... e-mid-70's

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Re: gang related music before gangsta rap

Unread post by Cold Bear » August 16th, 2013, 6:03 am

Silencioso wrote:
Cold Bear wrote:
Silencioso wrote:Ghetto Brothers was band that was connected to the Ghetto Brothers gang of New York.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRxakq9dJXE
so weird went to a show they did in the lower east side. bunch of latin bikers in there, definitely older men and women who represented a culture, I'm not gonna say gang culture but they were affiliated with each other. if you listen to their music though, it's straight up folk. I would compare them to Los Alacranes from San Diego.

Ghetto Brothers were very activist oriented similar to the Young Lords
I've heard a lot of GB's music and yeah most of it was light, like folk or very light rock. Their main song "Ghetto Brother Power" is cool though. It's like raw Latin rock. they should have stuck with that sound!

were any of those old latin bikers flying colors? What clubs?
people who came to see them were definitely flying colors. unfortunately I don't remember which ones (no for real I'm not trying to be secretive)

it was an older crowd I would say 30 and up. Had the uptown look, like Bronx and Harlem

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