Venice Shoreline Crips paid taxes to the Mexican Mafia?

[SkoobyDoo]

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Los Angeles Gangs and Hate Crimes
Brown vs. black hate crimes are on the rise among gang members in L.A. and other cities.
February 29, 2008

“Hating people is like burning down your own house to get rid of a rat.”
Harry Emerson Fosdick
“The Wages of Hate”

Racial strife between black and brown street gangs has always existed in modern Los Angeles. It was there when I grew up in South Central Los Angeles, in Compton, Willowbrook, and Watts in the 1960s. During this period Hispanics were the minority and were often the victims of predatory African-American gangs.

Back then the tension was rarely allowed to boil over into war because the gangs had sort of "mutual assured destruction pact" (like the one between the United States and the Soviet Union) that prevented potentially explosive gang race wars.

Unfortunately, this was not true in the California prisons and Youth Authority facilities. On the inside, the Mexican Mafia and the Aryan Brotherhood were allied against the Black Guerrilla Family and its ally the Nuestra Familia. And battles were common.

By the 1980s, the Hispanic gangs controlled the majority of the marijuana, powdered cocaine, and heroin trafficking, and they were rapidly taking over the methamphetamine production from the whites. But the lucrative crack cocaine market belonged to the African-American gangs. That was the status quo.

Then as the dynamics and demographics of Los Angeles changed, the Mexican Mafia gained power on the street. It began pushing all Sureño gangs to take over the drug trafficking in areas controlled by black gangs.

This came to a head on April 29, 1992, during the Rodney King riots. The rioting was primarily led by black and Hispanic gang members. On live television, the rioters burned down the guard shack in front of LAPD Parker Center and pulled innocent people from their cars at intersections like Florence and Normandy. The police seemed powerless to intervene, and were generally restrained by their administrators. So the city burned.

Four black rioters pulled passing white truck driver Reginald Denny from his vehicle and, in a televised assault, beat him on the TV News. One suspect, Eight Trey Gangster Crip gang member, Damian “Football” Williams, crushed Reginald Denny’s badly beaten head with a concrete block.

What was less noticed by the public during this infamous incident was another victim, a Hispanic male, who was pulled from his vehicle by Williams and publicly beaten almost to death. As a final insult “Football” Williams painted the Hispanic victim’s limp body with a spray can.

This was the spark that lit the Hispanic powder keg. Several incidents occurred between black and brown gang members following this televised insult.

When “Football” Williams was arrested, he was incarcerated in the Los Angeles County Jail awaiting trial for the Denny assault. And the Mexican Mafia placed him on the Green Light list to be murdered. Members of the Mara Salvatrucha gang were assigned the hit. Jail investigators learned of the plot and placed Williams in protective custody for his protection.

Soon the prison race war spilled into the streets. The first battles were in the Santa Monica and Venice areas at apartment complexes like the Oakwood and Mar Vista Apartments. The Venice Shoreline Crips and other Black gangs endured assault after assault from the Hispanic Venice 13 gang and the Culver City Boys until they capitulated and paid taxes to the Mexican Mafia. When Mafia Member George "Grandpa" Bustamonte was arrested by the LASD Major Crimes Surveillance team during the first Mexican Mafia RICO case (1995), he was in the act of collecting these taxes from the Black street gangs in the Santa Monica area.

Another example was the war between the the Fruit Town Piru and Tortilla Flats gangs. They had grown up together in Compton and lived together as neighbors and tolerated each other for more than 30 years. In May of 1999, Compton Tortilla Flats member, Jorge "Santos" Diaz, was convicted of the "Hate Crime Murder" of victim Levar Higgins in the Fruit Town Piru gang area.


In a similar way, Compton Setentas (70s) and the Lueders Park Piru gangs had co-existed. But now they also went to war. Before, they had maintained a tense but consistent peace and even cooperated in the past.


In Long Beach, the East Side and West Side Longo gangs put away their rivalry and differences and joined with all Sureño gangs to attack the Tiny Rascal Gangsters (TRG), a Cambodian gang in alliance with the Long Beach Insane Crip gang.


All Asians are referred to by Hispanic gang members as “Chinos” (Spanish for Chinese). That’s why in one of the Mexican Mafia’s 1997 Green Light lists, Sureño gang members were directed to kill TRG members and, "any Chino, except South Side Chinos" (“South Side Chinos” are Asian gangs aligned with the Sureños).


The city of Hawaiian Gardens is the home of Luis "Huero Buff" Flores, founder of the Mexican Mafia. The Hawaiian Gardens gang had a race hate policy for many years. During the trial of Jose "Sepy" Orozco for the murder of LASD OSS Gang Unit Deputy Jerry Ortiz, evidence of hate crimes against African-Americans was also presented. including the use of the term "Hate Gang" in the Hawaiian Gardens’ gang graffiti.


There are numerous examples of this race hate attitude in the Pomona 12th Street area as well. Pomona 12th Street had a clique called "Nigger Killers," who specialized in racial hate murders.


In his book “Mexican Mafia” author Tony Rafael chronicles a series of murders committed by members of the LA Avenues street gang in compliance with the Mexican Mafia’s codes of conduct. I was the gang expert during the several years it took for these eight defendants to be tried for seven murders. The Avenues gang also had a long history of racially motivated violence against African Americans.


In 2006 using laws traditionally to combat white supremacist groups like the Nazi Skinheads and the Ku Klux Klan, the U.S. Department of Justice indicted five Avenues gang members: Gilbert “Lucky” Saldana, Alejandro “Bird” Martinez, Porfirio “Dreamer” Avila and “Sneaky” Cazares. The fifth defendant was a fugitive, Merced “Shadow” Cambero.


In August of 2006 all four were convicted in the race murder of an African-American man who was shot in his parked car in 1999 and a man standing at a bus stop in 2000.
Unfortunately, the prosecution was prevented from bringing in the hate crime ties with all Sureño gangs and the Mexican Mafia because of restrictive filings used by the defense attorneys early in the trial. The prosecution’s lack of familiarity with Los Angeles street gangs prevented them from being more aggressive on this issue until later in the trial when it was too late.


There are many other examples found all over the Los Angeles Area of these racial gang wars. These include: Eastside Duarte vs. Duroc Crips, Rancho San Pedro vs. Dodge City Crips, and Blacks vs. Azusa, Norwalk, Florence 13, and 18th Street.


These race wars have now gone full circle affecting all the California Department of Corrections (CDC) facilities, Youth Authority (CYA) facilities, and jails as far away as Las Vegas.


This situation cannot be further tolerated in Los Angeles or any other American city. The hate crime and conspiracy statutes can be used as tools against these gangs with great effect. All we need is the courage and fortitude to employ them.

[xxx]

I cant see the Shorelines paying Taxes to anyone period.

I cant see Gang Banging Blacks paying Taxes period.

Its not in our nature to do so.

The Shorelines Warred with V13 & CxC, dropped plenty.

Now they turn around and pay Taxes, i dont think so.

This Info is from a Police site, a lot of their gang articles are questionable, so is this info.

[tysuave]

it's possible if that's who there getting there dope from. the mexicaans is the ones with all the dope so it's called doing bizness...

[pistolslanga]

it's possible if that's who there getting there dope from. the mexicaans is the ones with all the dope so it's called doing bizness...

it was probly a coverup for a dope deal, ese tried to act hard and say he was taxin em when infact they were prolly doin a dope deal

[xxx]

it's possible if that's who there getting there dope from. the mexicaans is the ones with all the dope so it's called doing bizness...

Getting Taxes and buying dope is two different things.

you aint gonna get taxed by your supplier, it dont make sense ,all they have to do is charge a higher price.

[tysuave]

why not if ur buying dope from the mexican mafia and selling in a hood they control

[xxx]

lol

blacks dont buy dope from the Mexican Mafia.

Mexican Mafia dont control Venice.

Shorelines are not paying Taxes.

I dont know of any Black Gang paying Taxes.

The Mexican Mafia's reach dont extend that for.

They dont even tax Blacks in the System, so how are they gonna tax blacks on the streets.

They only Tax their own people.

And they have a hard time doing that.

with all that green light shit

plus all the renagades(latinos/surenos) under the radar that they dont know about.

and if they were taxes Blacks(which there not), i dont think they would be Ok'in this racial shit on the streets, bad for business, no? Gun down people making you money?

[alexalonso]

lol

blacks dont buy dope from the Mexican Mafia.

Mexican Mafia dont control Venice.

Shorelines are not paying Taxes.

I dont know of any Black Gang paying Taxes.

The Mexican Mafia's reach dont extend that for.

They dont even tax Blacks in the System, so how are they gonna tax blacks on the streets.

They only Tax their own people.

And they have a hard time doing that.

with all that green light shit

plus all the renagades(latinos/surenos) under the radar that they dont know about.

and if they were taxes Blacks(which there not), i dont think they would be Ok'in this racial shit on the streets, bad for business, no? Gun down people making you money?

i think you are right on most your points, but eses are having all the dope now. It aint the 1980s when Blacks was making millions and the mexicans were on the side lines saying dam. I personally know a hand full of blacks, that are cool with Mexicans and they get their dope from them, but I aint never heard of no black neighborhood paying taxes to any eses. I think the VSLc would ride on the Mexicans and start a war before paying taxes and they would only do so if they lost. And as we know there is never a true winner or loser in any gang rivalry.

[WIP]

50 has been puttin the heat on the shorelines. kickin in anybodys crib lookin for n*ggas.

[WLA PALMS]

Hell yeah, this stuff sounds like it's gotta be false, this don't sound real at all, like you said, I don't see us Crips and Damus payin' taxes to no Mexican Mafia, and the Venice Sho-lines were servin' the Culver City's and the Venice 13's! somethin' crucial!, droppin' em!, so it WOULD NOT make any sense to turn around and pay these foos taxes, our mentality is take over!

I cant see the Shorelines paying Taxes to anyone period.

I cant see Gang Banging Blacks paying Taxes period.

Its not in our nature to do so.

The Shorelines Warred with V13 & CxC, dropped plenty.

Now they turn around and pay Taxes, i dont think so.

This Info is from a Police site, a lot of their gang articles are questionable, so is this info.

[WLA PALMS]

That's the thing, the mexican mafia ain't runnin' or controllin' nothin' in Venice!, the Venice Sho-lines had always had Venice sewed up & locked down!, have been for over 30 years, I lived in Venice on Indiana Ave between 5th & 6th Ave when I was kid & them Sho-lines were puttin' it down!, the mexican mafia only controls and taxes their own people, the mexican mafia's rules DO NOT APPY or have ANY jurisdiction to black gangs, they can't control a hood they don't own like Venice, not only that, the Venice Sho-lines were droppin' them hispanics gangs over in Venice & Culver City somethin' terrible, therefore proving they didn't fear hispanics!, so standin' up against the mexican mafia wouldn't be nothin' to do...

why not if ur buying dope from the mexican mafia and selling in a hood they control

[FelonLocco]

we blaccs can stomp u muthafuccin mexicans out any time...sticc ta shankin ppl n shit while we bust on yo mommas houses n rape your young 12 year old sister and piss on your bones as well as placing our coccs firmly on your forheads without saying excuse me.....BiTCh