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Postby PolarAC » February 7th, 2007, 9:49 am

That Doc was excellent. Definately interesting to find that the early blacks gangs were a response to all the white gangs like the "Spook Hunters". They just broke it down to how things got started

I thought that there would be more talk about this show here.
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Postby L Grindin » February 7th, 2007, 10:03 am

PolarAC wrote:I thought that there would be more talk about this show here.

Sometimes it seems that people are only interested in things that promote negativity. When something positive is done, such as this very informative and enlightening documentary, people aren't interested. I think there were many lessons that can be learned from it about how to improve the Black community, and maintain the integrity and strength of Black revolutionary organizations.
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Postby Jinky » February 7th, 2007, 10:06 am

Wasnt he in Training Day ?
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Postby L Grindin » February 7th, 2007, 10:14 am

Jinky wrote:Wasnt he in Training Day ?

Yeah.
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Postby creativemind » February 7th, 2007, 12:42 pm

L Grindin wrote:
PolarAC wrote:I thought that there would be more talk about this show here.

Sometimes it seems that people are only interested in things that promote negativity. When something positive is done, such as this very informative and enlightening documentary, people aren't interested. I think there were many lessons that can be learned from it about how to improve the Black community, and maintain the integrity and strength of Black revolutionary organizations.


Did you notice how many of the young homies that Bone interviewed had NO CLUE how the conflict got started in the first place? Fighting, killing and willing to die over an unknown cause. Just imagine if that commitment was directed toward something positive.
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Postby L Grindin » February 7th, 2007, 1:08 pm

creativemind wrote:
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PolarAC wrote:I thought that there would be more talk about this show here.

Sometimes it seems that people are only interested in things that promote negativity. When something positive is done, such as this very informative and enlightening documentary, people aren't interested. I think there were many lessons that can be learned from it about how to improve the Black community, and maintain the integrity and strength of Black revolutionary organizations.


Did you notice how many of the young homies that Bone interviewed had NO CLUE how the conflict got started in the first place? Fighting, killing and willing to die over an unknown cause. Just imagine if that commitment was directed toward something positive.

Indeed, and that's one of the things that makes it so bad. Many people are willing to die for a worthy cause, but they're fighting and dying for nothing. It was also sad seeing how that little boy had such a pesimistic opinion, and at the end they said he got life. He couldn't have been any older than 14!
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Postby looney » February 7th, 2007, 1:30 pm

good documentry point blank
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Postby StillNoScript » February 7th, 2007, 5:05 pm

There was so much in this detailing the history of gangs I have to watch it again. What had me was how in the beginning Cle insists that poverty had nothing to do with at least him joining a gang, but when the author of the book in which he got the title of the documentary from, asked him that if he (Cle) were to build a factory with union jobs right in Athens Park, and hire the entire gang, would that put an end to the gang being violent and drug dealing? Cle's short answer: Yes.
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Postby BG MLOCO » February 7th, 2007, 7:07 pm

I REALLLY ENJOYED THAT DOCUMENTARY IT WAS DEEPER THAN THE HOOD, BLOODS,CRIPS, IT WAS HISTORY IN A SENSE AND A WAKE UP CALL ON THE HOW THE GOVERNMENT USES ITS POWER TO KEEP BLACK PEOPLE DOWN, ALL PEOPLE SHOULD WATCH THIS, ITS NOT JUST A REGULAR DOCUMENTRAY ITS LIKE A HISTORY CLASS WE ALL SHOULD HAVE TAKEN IN HIGH SCHOOL AND COLLEGE. BONE IS A REAL DUDE, HE IS DOING HIS THANG AND WAS RIGHT ON A LOT OF TOPICS.
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Postby BG MLOCO » February 7th, 2007, 7:16 pm

READ MY POST IN THE MUSIC FORUM, IT WAS A GOOD MOVIE, VERY DEEP HONEST FUCC J EDGAR HOOVER, REAGAN.
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Postby ManifestTruth » February 7th, 2007, 8:04 pm

BG MLOCO wrote:I REALLLY ENJOYED THAT DOCUMENTARY IT WAS DEEPER THAN THE HOOD, BLOODS,CRIPS, IT WAS HISTORY IN A SENSE AND A WAKE UP CALL ON THE HOW THE GOVERNMENT USES ITS POWER TO KEEP BLACK PEOPLE DOWN, ALL PEOPLE SHOULD WATCH THIS, ITS NOT JUST A REGULAR DOCUMENTRAY ITS LIKE A HISTORY CLASS WE ALL SHOULD HAVE TAKEN IN HIGH SCHOOL AND COLLEGE. BONE IS A REAL DUDE, HE IS DOING HIS THANG AND WAS RIGHT ON A LOT OF TOPICS.


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Postby A Ghost » February 7th, 2007, 10:20 pm

17 threads on one subject :lol:
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Postby A Ghost » February 7th, 2007, 10:20 pm

17 threads on one subject :lol:
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Postby A Ghost » February 7th, 2007, 10:20 pm

17 threads on one subject :lol:
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Postby NikexCortez » February 7th, 2007, 10:24 pm

I dont have HBO, could I watch this anywhere on the internet or download it?
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Postby A Ghost » February 7th, 2007, 10:24 pm

17 threads on one subject :lol:
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Postby A Ghost » February 7th, 2007, 10:24 pm

17 threads on one subject :lol:
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Postby A Ghost » February 7th, 2007, 10:25 pm

LMAO
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Postby StillNoScript » February 7th, 2007, 10:33 pm

A Ghost wrote:17 threads on one subject :lol:


Check the date I started it. I did a search before I started this thread, to make sure I wouldn't dublicate, and couldn't find anything of the sort.
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Postby A Ghost » February 7th, 2007, 10:34 pm

StillNoScript wrote:
A Ghost wrote:17 threads on one subject :lol:


Check the date I started it. I did a search before I started this thread, to make sure I wouldn't dublicate, and couldn't find anything of the sort.


...then someone needs to fix the search button :?
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Postby StillNoScript » February 7th, 2007, 10:38 pm

My apologies. I swear I did a search and only a bunch of thread titles having nothing to do with this showed up on the first page. I wouldn't blame the mods for merging or deleting this thread. Again, my bad.
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Postby StillNoScript » February 7th, 2007, 10:42 pm

A Ghost wrote:17 threads on one subject :lol:


This is the original thread, as far as I can see, from the date of the first post.

I'm the one guilty of duplicating. My bad. When I first saw the ad for this on HBO a week ago, I did a search and on the first page nothing with this title came up. I had no idea that it had already been discussed here years ago. It was probably on one of the back pages in the search. I didn't check that far.
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Postby A Ghost » February 7th, 2007, 10:46 pm

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Postby perongregory » February 8th, 2007, 1:35 am

i dont got cable either, and I wanted to see that shit. how was it?
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Postby cbo woods » February 8th, 2007, 2:50 pm

bone was on the news with lil monsta back in the day about the riots
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Postby SWblocks-Veteran » February 8th, 2007, 11:15 pm

nice watch...Bone a real kat, I thought he was gonna be a hypocrit but then he showed the world he was thurough by denouncing banging and saying what everyone already knows but is to scared to say infront of their neighborhood bc they scared of being outkasted...Bone a real G in my eyes..not for what he did in the streets though..about how he held it down infront of the camera and is trying to make a change...God be with that man hope he can find some like minded people with some paper to help him make a change
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Postby SWblocks-Veteran » February 8th, 2007, 11:15 pm

nice watch...Bone a real kat, I thought he was gonna be a hypocrit but then he showed the world he was thurough by denouncing banging and saying what everyone already knows but is to scared to say infront of their neighborhood bc they scared of being outkasted...Bone a real G in my eyes..not for what he did in the streets though..about how he held it down infront of the camera and is trying to make a change...God be with that man hope he can find some like minded people with some paper to help him make a change
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Postby GHETTOMESSIAH » February 16th, 2007, 4:28 pm

StillNoScript wrote:There was so much in this detailing the history of gangs I have to watch it again. What had me was how in the beginning Cle insists that poverty had nothing to do with at least him joining a gang, but when the author of the book in which he got the title of the documentary from, asked him that if he (Cle) were to build a factory with union jobs right in Athens Park, and hire the entire gang, would that put an end to the gang being violent and drug dealing? Cle's short answer: Yes.


BONE JOINED THE BLOODS WHEN HE WAS 12 YEARS OLD. INITIALLY, POVERTY HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS DECISION TO JOIN THE GANG BECAUSE HE WAS A CHILD; HIS GRANDMOTHER PROVIDED FOR HIM. HOWEVER, AS HE GREW OLDER, THE PROSPECT OF WEALTH DREW HIM INTO THE DRUG TRADE. BONE MADE MORE THAN DOCTORS AND LAWYERS IN THE DRUG GAME. AFTER BONE WAS RELEASED FROM PRISON, HE MET THE JIM BROWN. BROWN ENCOURAGED HIM TO GO TO COLLEGE AND STUDY FILM. HE WAS ALSO A PRODUCTION ASSISTANT. BONE SAID, "I SPENT SO MUCH TIME ON THE MOVIE SET, I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO BANG." BONE WAS COMPENSATED HANDSOMELY IN THE FILM INDUSTRY ALSO. IF THOSE BLACK MEN FOUND A WAY TO OCCUPY THEIR TIME WITH SOMETHING THEY ENJOYED DOING, THEY WOULD EVENTUALLY LEAVE THE GANGS. I DON'T THINK POVERTY WAS/IS THE MOTIVATING FACTOR. THOSE YOUNG BROTHERS JOINED GANGS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO DO. IF THEY WERE GIVEN 8-12 HOUR A DAY FACTORY JOBS, THEY WOULD BE TOO BUSY TO GANG BANG. THERE WOULD BE NO NEED TO SELL DOPE BECAUSE MONEY FROM THE JOB WOULD FULLFILL THAT NEED. THE PROBLEM WITH MOST BLACK MEN IS THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO, OR WHAT TO DO. GIVE THEM DIRECTION, AND THEY WILL BE POSITIVE LAW ABIDING CITIZENS.
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Postby GHETTOMESSIAH » February 16th, 2007, 4:28 pm

StillNoScript wrote:There was so much in this detailing the history of gangs I have to watch it again. What had me was how in the beginning Cle insists that poverty had nothing to do with at least him joining a gang, but when the author of the book in which he got the title of the documentary from, asked him that if he (Cle) were to build a factory with union jobs right in Athens Park, and hire the entire gang, would that put an end to the gang being violent and drug dealing? Cle's short answer: Yes.


BONE JOINED THE BLOODS WHEN HE WAS 12 YEARS OLD. INITIALLY, POVERTY HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS DECISION TO JOIN THE GANG BECAUSE HE WAS A CHILD; HIS GRANDMOTHER PROVIDED FOR HIM. HOWEVER, AS HE GREW OLDER, THE PROSPECT OF WEALTH DREW HIM INTO THE DRUG TRADE. BONE MADE MORE THAN DOCTORS AND LAWYERS IN THE DRUG GAME. AFTER BONE WAS RELEASED FROM PRISON, HE MET THE JIM BROWN. BROWN ENCOURAGED HIM TO GO TO COLLEGE AND STUDY FILM. HE WAS ALSO A PRODUCTION ASSISTANT. BONE SAID, "I SPENT SO MUCH TIME ON THE MOVIE SET, I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO BANG." BONE WAS COMPENSATED HANDSOMELY IN THE FILM INDUSTRY ALSO. IF THOSE BLACK MEN FOUND A WAY TO OCCUPY THEIR TIME WITH SOMETHING THEY ENJOYED DOING, THEY WOULD EVENTUALLY LEAVE THE GANGS. I DON'T THINK POVERTY WAS/IS THE MOTIVATING FACTOR. THOSE YOUNG BROTHERS JOINED GANGS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO DO. IF THEY WERE GIVEN 8-12 HOUR A DAY FACTORY JOBS, THEY WOULD BE TOO BUSY TO GANG BANG. THERE WOULD BE NO NEED TO SELL DOPE BECAUSE MONEY FROM THE JOB WOULD FULLFILL THAT NEED. THE PROBLEM WITH MOST BLACK MEN IS THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO, OR WHAT TO DO. GIVE THEM DIRECTION, AND THEY WILL BE POSITIVE LAW ABIDING CITIZENS.
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Postby KINGFEAR62 » February 17th, 2007, 6:30 pm

he did a good job he went deep into the history of the la gangs it was one of the best gang movies ever its crazy how those y.g's didnt even know how the war started it was sad at the end all those young lives lost the worst was when it showed that young ass kid that got life in jail does anyone know who athens park bloods war with the most????
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Postby KINGFEAR62 » February 17th, 2007, 6:30 pm

he did a good job he went deep into the history of the la gangs it was one of the best gang movies ever its crazy how those y.g's didnt even know how the war started it was sad at the end all those young lives lost the worst was when it showed that young ass kid that got life in jail does anyone know who athens park bloods war with the most????
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Postby KINGFEAR62 » February 17th, 2007, 6:31 pm

he did a good job he went deep into the history of the la gangs it was one of the best gang movies ever its crazy how those y.g's didnt even know how the war started it was sad at the end all those young lives lost the worst was when it showed that young azz kid that got life in jail does anyone know who athens park bloods war with the most????
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