El Dorado Red Explaining the Ny Blood Situation.

[LcBwC]

yo hell UBN is a west coast faction , the newyork ubn is fake ,they have no connection at all what so ever, they stole that name too , there still not legit. there ketchup , there a 5 point gang claimin redside , but not accepted. or there a t.rodgers group , if hes vouching for them.

Yeh but look at there numbers. I bet there would be anybody going to NY or Rikers and saying the UBN is fake. Even a Cali blood, NY Bloodz dont give a shit and they dont care what anybody says about them. There numbers are huge too and basically run NY now.

I dont think the issue is the numbers...its the fakeness involved in it. Real dudes shouldnt want to be apart of a lie. Complete bite.

[Hell]

^ It wasn't their fault the niggaz under UBN been lied to,blame that stuff on the real faksta so-called o.g mack but look at where he is at now serving lyfe fo some BS ya'll gotta look at it like this them niggaz been holdin it down since 93 as of today they're still puttin in work and recruit yung niggaz and as of now the older b-dogz is telling the yung g'z the truth about the UBN unlike that otha bullsh!t that was told to them when they was locked up at a yung age.

[NICKELS]

so what should they do now , since they know there whole sh-t is fake...........

[LcBwC]

^ It wasn't their fault the niggaz under UBN been lied to,blame that stuff on the real faksta so-called o.g mack but look at where he is at now serving lyfe fo some BS ya'll gotta look at it like this them niggaz been holdin it down since 93 as of today they're still puttin in work and recruit yung niggaz and as of now the older b-dogz is telling the yung g'z the truth about the UBN unlike that otha bullsh!t that was told to them when they was locked up at a yung age.

I cant C myself being apart of anything that isnt tru (lil pun ) and thats as a man. So to follow it like they do in NY is wild 2 me.

[Hell]

so what should they do now , since they know there whole sh-t is fake...........

Have a meeting with the westcoast b-dogz in N.Y but if that don't work,bang harder to make their stuff legit so nobody can't say their fake.

[NICKELS]

THEY NEED TO STOP BANGIN PERIOD , GANG BANGIN IS TIRED ALREADY WHY NOT TRUCE , AND DO SOMETHING TO UPLIFT BLACKS.....

[LcBwC]

so what should they do now , since they know there whole sh-t is fake...........

Have a meeting with the westcoast b-dogz in N.Y but if that don't work,bang harder to make their stuff legit so nobody can't say their fake.

Banging harder isnt going to help. Its still going to be fake ass bdogs banging harder!

[Trav]

so what should they do now , since they know there whole sh-t is fake...........

Have a meeting with the westcoast b-dogz in N.Y but if that don't work,bang harder to make their stuff legit so nobody can't say their fake.

Banging harder isnt going to help. Its still going to be fake ass bdogs banging harder!

Lol exactly. No matter how many,crips,bloods,mexicans,or latin kings they kill the will be viewed as fake.

[NICKELS]

THEY NEED TO JUST QUIT AND GIVE IT UP , SOME OF THEM FOOLS IS STILL LEFT FLAGGIN IT AND RIDING THE 5 POINTS , THERE REALLY A CHICAGO SET AND DONT EVEN KNOW IT ......................CLOWNS , AINT KNOW KILLIN IN NEWYORK FROM GANGBANGIN , THATS REAL FUNNY. HOW ARE YOU GONE HAVE GANGS IN YOUR STATE WITH NO MURDER RATE FROM BANGIN , HAHA

[Trav]

THEY NEED TO JUST QUIT AND GIVE IT UP , SOME OF THEM FOOLS IS STILL LEFT FLAGGIN IT AND RIDING THE 5 POINTS , THERE REALLY A CHICAGO SET AND DONT EVEN KNOW IT ......................CLOWNS , AINT KNOW KILLIN IN NEWYORK FROM GANGBANGIN , THATS REAL FUNNY. HOW ARE YOU GONE HAVE GANGS IN YOUR STATE WITH NO MURDER RATE FROM BANGIN , HAHA

Cause NY roots ain't based on gangbangin. The wannabes ain't never gonna be able to change the roots.

[Shox112]

THEY NEED TO JUST QUIT AND GIVE IT UP , SOME OF THEM FOOLS IS STILL LEFT FLAGGIN IT AND RIDING THE 5 POINTS , THERE REALLY A CHICAGO SET AND DONT EVEN KNOW IT ......................CLOWNS , AINT KNOW KILLIN IN NEWYORK FROM GANGBANGIN , THATS REAL FUNNY. HOW ARE YOU GONE HAVE GANGS IN YOUR STATE WITH NO MURDER RATE FROM BANGIN , HAHA

Cause NY roots ain't based on gangbangin. The wannabes ain't never gonna be able to change the roots.

U RIGHT CUZ ITS A HISTORY AND CULTURE that GO ALONG with IT

[Trav]

Exactly.

[Qdawg]

i mean got damm....7 pages later & dudes is still back to what was being said on the 1st...it is what it is...like i said its a summer hobby for niggahs,niggahs bang for like 2 summers then drop that blood & crip shiit because they see how wack it is,or dudes just stop repping after awhile...sooner or later dudes will see the light on there own experiences...but until then making 20 different topics about the same thing is not doing it..if anything dudes see shit like this & it feeds them to claim it longer because there getting attention(negative or positive)....let it be already people dam

[Richboy17]

What gangs do u think cud stand against the UBN in New York out of all the black and hispanic gangs and crews. I dont think theres any and im not defending the UBN cuz most of there shit is bull and twisted up, but i dont think alot of gangs in NY can stand against them. And im putting aside all those fake as blood gangs which would be 1/2 of the bloods in NY. Without these fakes they got numbers and real gangsters. Im talkin bout gangs like 9 tre and sex money murda, these NY blood gangs actually put in work too.

[Qdawg]

man money takers(aka smm) is older heads not on the BS on they grind ...what gang in ny can see ubn? the answer is ubn...the sets inside ubn is so cocky each wants they own limelight thats why you have 93g beefing with gkb...& other sets in the ubn beefing with 1 another...not to mention you might have 93g from the bronx beefing with 93g out in queens(a example)...the weakness to ubn is ubn itself period

[dubcity]

i used to have a lil bit of respect for ya'll NY niggaz until ya'll started that blood n crip thang, now ya'll just some clowns......

[BG MLOCO]

IF WE CLOWNS THEN COME OUT HERE TO THE MOST ACTIVE HOOD AND SAY SO, THIS TOPIC IS OLD AND TIRED B AND C BEEN HERE FOR LIKE 15 YRS NOW, WHEN THE P STONES CAME FROM CHI TO L.A NO ONE SAID ANYTHING, NOTHING, CMON YALL ALL BANGERS OUT HERE AINT FAKE, AND ALL BANGERS IN L.A ARENT THE HARDEST, SO LEAVE IT AT THAT.

[Richboy17]

IF WE CLOWNS THEN COME OUT HERE TO THE MOST ACTIVE HOOD AND SAY SO, THIS TOPIC IS OLD AND TIRED B AND C BEEN HERE FOR LIKE 15 YRS NOW, WHEN THE P STONES CAME FROM CHI TO L.A NO ONE SAID ANYTHING, NOTHING, CMON YALL ALL BANGERS OUT HERE AINT FAKE, AND ALL BANGERS IN L.A ARENT THE HARDEST, SO LEAVE IT AT THAT.

The bangers in NY got shit a lil twisted up though.

[LcBwC]

IF WE CLOWNS THEN COME OUT HERE TO THE MOST ACTIVE HOOD AND SAY SO, THIS TOPIC IS OLD AND TIRED B AND C BEEN HERE FOR LIKE 15 YRS NOW, WHEN THE P STONES CAME FROM CHI TO L.A NO ONE SAID ANYTHING, NOTHING, CMON YALL ALL BANGERS OUT HERE AINT FAKE, AND ALL BANGERS IN L.A ARENT THE HARDEST, SO LEAVE IT AT THAT.

How can you compare the stones coming to LA to the ubn being started by someone who has no ties to bdogs in CA?

Its not an issue of whos the hardest or whatever. People keep bringing that up. Im sure there are some ridaz in NY claiming bdog...the issue is the bdog they are claimin isnt bdog but using the name.

[NICKELS]

YOUR RIGHT HOMIE , BLACK P. STONES HAD TIES TO CHICAGO ..... THE BLOODS IN NEWYORK HAS NO CONNECTION , FAKE PLAIN AND SIMPLE......THERE IS NO MUREDER RATE FOR BANGIN IN NYC , PUT IN WORK WJERE THE PENN ?? ITS A VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF NIGGAS THAT REAL BANGERS IN NEWYORK AND THERE ALL LOCKED AWAY , JUST THOUSANDS OF CLAIMERS AND NON - BLACK GANG GROUPIES , AND A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF REAL CALIFORNIA CRIPS AND BLOODS THAT ARE ACTUUALY OFFICIAL ...THEY ARE GETTING ON MYSPACE TO TRY AND MAKE FRIENDS WITH WESTCOAST DUDES , TRYIN TO SEE IF THEY CAN COME OUT THERE AND GET PUT ON ............MAN ITS PATHETIC , ...LOL AHAHAHAHAH

15 YEARS OF WHAT CLAIMIN ............???? .....JUST CLAIMIN ????? THERE IS NO GANGBANGIN INEWYORK , YOU CAN COUNT THE KILLINGS DO TO GANG VIOLENCE ON YOUR HANDS AND TOES >> lol

NEWYORK JUST LIKE TO CLAIM AND LOOK THE DRESS CODE , ......WHITE AND SPANISH KIDS ARE JUST FOLLOWING THE FAD .

NEWYORK IS OVER THEM REAL NEWYORK DAYS IS OVER , THAT SH-T LOOK LIKE EVERYBODYS FROM FLORIDA ....LOL

[NICKELS]

WHAT HAPPEN WHEN THE FAKES TATOO THERE BODY UP WITH CRIP AND BLOOD TATS , HOW STUPID THEY FEEL ?? NOW THEY HAVE TO GO HARD AND JUSTIFY THERE EXISTENCE AS A BANGER

[NICKELS]

HERE IS HIS QUOTE

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YO ITS THIS DUDE ON HERE WHO USE TO POST " STATE RAISED 2000 " HES IN THE - GANGS & INFORMATION - WHITES OTHER PLACES , SECTION , GO READ HIS POSTS HE BEEN RAISED AROUND GANGS FROM STREET TO THE PENN......LATINO DUDE , HE TALKS ABOUT WHITES AND LATINS CLAIMING BLACK GANGS

nvincibable, from what i've seen in there a white crip or blood is looked down very much so by ALMOST all whites, the raza looks down on a chicano crip much worse. i've seen shit jump off in the yard AND in the cell block where the white crips got rushed and beat down by the other woods. i've seen that on more than one occasion. i've also seen the raza deal with their issue and it wasnt too pretty. i guess it would be a hard choice for a white crip or blood to go with his hood or go against his own race. i've also seen some hispanic's who be claiming crip or blood on the streets but when they get to the pen they try to play it off like they straight surenos and when they got their covers pulled they were dealt with and went to Protective Custody with alot of holes in them. its a different life in there, there are definately lines you dont cross.
in there its a small society and more often than not you gonna run into someone you did out here on the streets. and you can LOSE YOUR LIFE so damm easy. if you fu-- somebody out here and you see him in one of the 30-something pens in cali then you better be man enough to handle your biz, theres 4 ways you can go about it.
1) get em up with your rival
2) dont do shit and become a hoe and take your ass whuppin
3) if you labeled a weak ass hoe then start droppin your drawls and sellin that ass to pay off your enemie so they dont put holes in your ass
4) take your ass to PROTECTIVE CUSTODY!
if that ever happens then your career as a gangsta is over cause that jacket will follow you for the rest of your days.
some of these lil youngsters who be coming up in here DONT HAVE A CLUE OF WHATS IN STORE FOR THEM ONCE THEY GET TO A HARDCORE PEN... some of them may laugh at this post but thats cool too cause i'm telling the real.let them just keep ridin and work there way up there and then they can enjoy the madness in there too.
anyways...peace...

[NICKELS]

HERE ARE SOME MORE POSTS THAT ARE REALITY BASED ........NOT VIRTUALL REALITY INTERNET BLACK GANG GROUPIES

Again, what? Huh? Again Im a Joe Average Wood. Whites riding with blacks get dealt with. In cali, when you get outta the county, whites and southern mexicans for the most part have a working relationship. But that blows up too. The reason Chicanos are so strong is numbers. And ruthlessness when it gets down to it. Whites are the minority not only in the joint but in the state. As matter of fact, whites are the minority in the whole world and have always been. But most people still cannot confess the truth. AGain here is reality 101 at least here in California.
1. If you are white and some black set is letting you ride with them, your probebly buying all the 40's and rollin in your car.
2. You will almost for sure be the one who takes the fall for anything dirty.
3. Basically, your the punk.
I dont mean to disrespect forum rules. But I have lived in the urban jungle all my life here in Culver City, and I have seen it first hand.
White boys need to keep to their own and respect their own first, just as blacks and browns and asians do. Get caught playing black gangster in any institution here and your a dead man. No chance of ever shaking that jacket.

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Tatta
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Joined: 07 Nov 2003
Posts: 281
Location: Kali

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 3:20 pm Post subject: Re: WHITE CRIPS AND BLOODS

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I agree 100% with AcmeWhiteBread. I have seen a few white dudes hang with black gangs and they fit the bill Acme described to a tee.
The reality is indeed that you can be white and run with another race on these streets but behind those walls is a whole different game. No race car is going to stick their neck out for someone not of their own time and time again simply because that person wants to be down...dead weight gets pushed out the car real quick like and if you don't match then you are the first to go.
I have been in the pen and seen first hand white-boys claimin crip or blood be sacraficed on the yard. I have seen the shit in the street too.
I know that there are some white boys with heart running around in LA but they wont be there for long...expendable in the eyes of black gangs. I don't know the point of view from any other side.
I am not naiive nor ignorant and I know that for every hardcore black dude there is an equally hard whiteboy or mexican...that is a given. However, there is a time and a place for integration...gang bangin aint one of them.

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stateraised2000
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Joined: 05 Jul 2003
Posts: 645
Location: L.A. county Califas...

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 6:33 pm Post subject: Re: WHITE CRIPS AND BLOODS

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i agree with both what AcmeWhiteBread and tatta say. just cause these white boys THINK there homies and in the car DOES NOT make them that. i have also seen what tatta has seen happen to them. when they running with them there being told "homie" this and "homie" that and they get pumped up thinkin they one of the fellas UNTIL a situation comes up and a decision has to be made concerning them. ha ha, guess who gets left holdin the bag...and you right acme about most of the time its the white boy being played for his car, alcohol/drugs, or whatever. most of them whiteboys tryin to fit in feel they have to "buy" in or feel that they have to offer something just to be accepted. its a damm shame but thats the way it is and has always been as far as i can remember. although there may be exceptions, there are VERY FEW
exceptions to the rule...

[NICKELS]

look here 909, if you havent already learned then you WILL learn that there are killas in ALL RACES. there be white boy killers too. just cause they white DONT mean they cowards. alot of it has to do with the inviornment they grew up in, what was drummed into their head by the peeps/homies they chill with and what certain situation comes up. some, BUT NOT ALL, white boys who be kicking it with chicans or blacks feel a little more pressure to "fit in" and they take it one step further to prove themselves AND WILL PEEL YOUR CAP to show they one of the fellas.

[NICKELS]

NIGGAZ IM CLAIMIN MY OWN RACE BLACK GANGS ........CRIPS AND BLOODS , BLACK P STONES , WHATEVER ...FUCH YOU BLACK GANG GROUPIES I AINT PROTECTIN YAW.

[Redrag52]

yeah thats cali hood politics , i feel you nick

[zip3ace]

Itsn't This The Truth About Mack?:

O.G. MACK WAS IN RIKERS ISLAND WHERE HE MET SOME BLACK P STONES FROM CHI-TOWN. AND HE TALKED 2 THE BLACK-P STONES AND THEY SHARED SOME HISTORY ABOUT THE PEOPLES NATION AND THE 5 AND ALL OF THAT. THEN O.G. MACK WANTED 2 BECOME A BLACK P STONE . BUT THEY WOULDNT LET O.G. MACK JOIN BECAUSE OF HIS LACK OF CONNECTIONS ON THE OUTSIDE AND HIS MIND REALLY WASNT FOCUSED ON THE 5 POINTS OF LIFE AND THE WAYS OF THE BLACK P. STONE AND PEOPLES NATION. SO MACK READ A BOOK ABOUT L.A. GANGS. AND IN THE BOOK HE READ ABOUT THE UBN THAT EXISTED IN A L.A. PRISON WHICH HELD BLACK GANGS TOGETHER IN PRISON. AND THEN MACK PUT ALL THE INFORMATION THAT HE RECIEVED FROM THE BLACK P STONES AND THE INFORMATION HE READ ABOUT THE L.A. GANGS AND HE PUT IT IN A BOOK THAT HE CALLED THE BOOK OF KNOWLEDGE AND HE MADE SOME UP SOME CODES AND PRAYERS AND QUESTIONS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. AND HE STARTED THE UBN IN RIKERS ISLAND ALONG SIDE DEADEYE. AND THATS HOW IT ALL BEGAN. HE DIDNT ACTAULLY GO 2 L.A. BUT HE READ THE L.A. GANGS BOOK AND THATS HOW HE KNEW ABOUT THE SWANS AND OTHER GANGS AND ALSO HE THOUGHT THE 5 WAS FOR BLOODS AFTER HE TALKED 2 THE BLACK P STONES AND THATS HOW HE KNEW ABOUT T.RODGERS AND THE OTHERS . THATS WHY EVERYTHING IS SO MIXED UP AND HOMIES OUT HERE BANGIN INCORRECT. BUT IF YOU STILL BANGIN GKB , NTG , SMM AND VB JUST BE ON POINT

everything you said is what was explained to me , except the black p stone part , the blood he bump into , nobody knows where they was from , some say it was a homie from miller gangsta bloods , some say it was a treet top piru , but who ever it was they spoke to much with him and they did not except him or put him on the set. it could have been a dude from chicago claimin blood , at one time nyc bloods was yelling woooowoooo instead of soooo wooop , LOL

tru indeed, but at one point west coast bloods was screaming wooop wooop too. if u dont remember, b-braze was dissing dj pooh, klaiming that woop woop was a blood thing afre dj pooh made a song screaming woop woop.

[NICKELS]

THATS DEBATABLE , CAUSE CRIPS EVEN YELL OOOOO WOOOOOO AT TIMES WICH IS ALL TO CLOSE BUT THEY BOTH SAY THEY WERE USING THE CALL FIRST BUT ITS CALIFORNIA STUFF NOT NEWYORK , ONCE AGAIN A NEWYORK DUDE QUOTING CALIFORNIA HOOD POLITICS ACROSS THE CONTINENT IN ANOTHER STATE , ....NOT A DISS TO YOU ZIP3ACE , DONT TAKE OFFENSE , BUT NEWYORK REALY SHOULD GET OFF CALI BALLZ , AND CREATE THEY OWN THING IF CALIFORNIA IS NOT PUBLICLY ACCEPTING NEWYORK AS PART OF THERE GANG SCENE.....LIKE THAT DUDE FROM GANGBANGIN FO LIFE 2 ) THE CRIP FROM COMPTON SAID " THEY HAVE A HOOD IN WASHINGTON UP BY SEATTLE " HES PUTTIN OUT THERE ON RECORD , THE ONLY THING IVE BEEN HEARING IS CALIFORNIA DISSING NEWYORK , THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME....NEWYORK HAS TO GET ITS ORIGINALITY BACK , STAND UP !

[NICKELS]

BUT TO TELL THE TRUTH , I MAY WATCH A DVD HEAR AND THERE ABOUT CALI , BUT IM NOT STUDYING THERE MUSIC ABOUT THERE LIFE STYLE......NO DISS TO THEM EITHER ,

[NICKELS]

NYC

[BG MLOCO]

nah homie you bugging alot of heads are resting, obviously not as many in la but there are lives that was lost, but its odd cuz alot of b and c sets out here have cali origins not a few a lot and they have real ties, i mean im not here defending everyone i know my ties thats all i need to know.

[NICKELS]

IVE MET CALI NIGGAS IN NEWYORK AND DUDES THAT RUN BACK AND FOURTH TO CALI , AND ......IVE MET FAKES WITH SECOND HAND STORIES