El Dorado Red Explaining the Ny Blood Situation.

[Trav]

No disrespect to you tho Redrag cause i don't know you, i don't know how you get down.

[Redrag52]

yo shox im a holla at you behind the scenes cause i dont wanna put dudes names out there so the wannabees can use them to front like they run with grapes.

but trav you right , newyork is a little more obsessive with it then california is today , they see them dvds a think thats how it is , but not really only on hood day or funerals and videos , you cant rock bandanas in a lot areas of cali , because of injunction , i try to explain to some newyork dudes , they dont know cali life , i tell them those bandanas is not going to give you heart or make you a gangster , and dont play hard with 5 to 10 homies standing behind you . thats the way i was taught , the origianl bloods and crips was to be a strong black man by his self , when we come together thats a real army of defense.

[Shox112]

Pac never put his blood affiliation out there like that. Niggaz still debate was he MOB or not. I didn't think Pac was mob,cause i'm like Pac ain't gotta go that route. But talkin to my people out west they said dude was Mob fo sho. But dudes is so flamboyant out east with they rags cause niggaz ain't really gettin popped like that over them like out west. Out west they try to be more low key cause its dead real out there with that color shit. Out here they wearin them flags like they super tough but in reality ain't nobody really trippin off colors cause that ain't the east coasts original style.

i aint knocccin u but notice the point where I quoted Pac's california luv and he says FROM LONG BEACH TO ROSECRANS....

HE WASNT TALKIN ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT CITIES HE WAS TALKIN ABOUT AN INTERSECTION LONG BCH BLVD. AND ROSECRANS AV. WHICH IS MOB PIRU'S HOOD NOT TOO FAR FROM SUGE KNIGHTS HOOD LEUDERS PARK PIRU...

IT WAS A SUBLIMINAL SHOUT OUT...

DATS ALMOST LIKE ME SAYIN FROM 103rd to WILMINGTON ONLY LOCALS AND the NIGGAZ AROUND THERE WOULD KNOW WHAT IT MEAN

http://www.streetgangs.com/billboard/vi ... c&start=20

[Trav]

Pac never put his blood affiliation out there like that. Niggaz still debate was he MOB or not. I didn't think Pac was mob,cause i'm like Pac ain't gotta go that route. But talkin to my people out west they said dude was Mob fo sho. But dudes is so flamboyant out east with they rags cause niggaz ain't really gettin popped like that over them like out west. Out west they try to be more low key cause its dead real out there with that color shit. Out here they wearin them flags like they super tough but in reality ain't nobody really trippin off colors cause that ain't the east coasts original style.

i aint knocccin u but notice the point where I quoted Pac's california luv and he says FROM LONG BEACH TO ROSECRANS....

HE WASNT TALKIN ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT CITIES HE WAS TALKIN ABOUT AN INTERSECTION LONG BCH BLVD. AND ROSECRANS AV. WHICH IS MOB PIRU'S HOOD NOT TOO FAR FROM SUGE KNIGHTS HOOD LEUDERS PARK PIRU...

IT WAS A SUBLIMINAL SHOUT OUT...

DATS ALMOST LIKE ME SAYIN FROM 103rd to WILMINGTON ONLY LOCALS AND the NIGGAZ AROUND THERE WOULD KNOW WHAT IT MEAN

http://www.streetgangs.com/billboard/vi ... c&start=20

But you wouldn't know if you wasn't involved in the streets of the city. For the rest of the world we didn't know that. Like you said. Thats why i said it will always be a debate about it. But niggaz who know whats up know. Even on To live and die and la he was shoutin out Neckbone,Heron,Buntry,etc that wasn't to hard to figure out who he was rolling with. I thought Suge was from the Mob?

[Shox112]

Pac never put his blood affiliation out there like that. Niggaz still debate was he MOB or not. I didn't think Pac was mob,cause i'm like Pac ain't gotta go that route. But talkin to my people out west they said dude was Mob fo sho. But dudes is so flamboyant out east with they rags cause niggaz ain't really gettin popped like that over them like out west. Out west they try to be more low key cause its dead real out there with that color shit. Out here they wearin them flags like they super tough but in reality ain't nobody really trippin off colors cause that ain't the east coasts original style.

i aint knocccin u but notice the point where I quoted Pac's california luv and he says FROM LONG BEACH TO ROSECRANS....

HE WASNT TALKIN ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT CITIES HE WAS TALKIN ABOUT AN INTERSECTION LONG BCH BLVD. AND ROSECRANS AV. WHICH IS MOB PIRU'S HOOD NOT TOO FAR FROM SUGE KNIGHTS HOOD LEUDERS PARK PIRU...

IT WAS A SUBLIMINAL SHOUT OUT...

DATS ALMOST LIKE ME SAYIN FROM 103rd to WILMINGTON ONLY LOCALS AND the NIGGAZ AROUND THERE WOULD KNOW WHAT IT MEAN

http://www.streetgangs.com/billboard/vi ... c&start=20

But you wouldn't know if you wasn't involved in the streets of the city. For the rest of the world we didn't know that. Like you said. Thats why i said it will always be a debate about it. But niggaz who know whats up know. Even on To live and die and la he was shoutin out Neckbone,Heron,Buntry,etc that wasn't to hard to figure out who he was rolling with. I thought Suge was from the Mob?

THEM ARE KNOWN OG's FROM MOB Piru(Heron), Leuders Park Piru(NecccBone), and TreeTop Piru(Bountry)...

[Qdawg]

i thought suge was from a middle-class neighborhood somewhere in texas then relocated to cali in his older years?

[Qdawg]

[quote="Trav"]This is a question to anyone who can answer it. Why does everybody want to be a blood? Is it the color they like so much? what is it? Why not choose being a crip? It ain't like HAVE to choose being a BLOOD. Back in the day the Crip thing was a fad but it was never like this.[/quote]

black people more then anything wanna feel like they apart of something big,thats just how it is

[Qdawg]

[quote="Qdawg"][quote="Trav"]This is a question to anyone who can answer it. Why does everybody want to be a blood? Is it the color they like so much? what is it? Why not choose being a crip? It ain't like HAVE to choose being a BLOOD. Back in the day the Crip thing was a fad but it was never like this.[/quote]

black people more then anything wanna feel like they apart of something big,thats just how it is[/quote]

& when i say black people i mean across the globe(& no im not racist im black) its just facts..i hear some di*kheads from cali say they was born in this..niggah you decided to get down /decided to follow ya father,& fathers father path,them niggahs aint burn no burner to ya head & say rep the hood thats a fact, maybe some niggahs will be gullable to believe that line but i aint(born into something nonsense)

[Qdawg]

[quote="Redrag52"]at the time mack formed bloods against the puertoricans in the penn [/quote]

yeah they tried to form it like a black gang against hispanics,whites...but on the street it was the opposite because most of the people they was attacking was fellow brothers...so you tell me where it went wrong at

[Shox112]

This is a question to anyone who can answer it. Why does everybody want to be a blood? Is it the color they like so much? what is it? Why not choose being a crip? It ain't like HAVE to choose being a BLOOD. Back in the day the Crip thing was a fad but it was never like this.

black people more then anything wanna feel like they apart of something big,thats just how it is

& when i say black people i mean across the globe(& no im not racist im black) its just facts..i hear some di*kheads from cali say they was born in this..niggah you decided to get down /decided to follow ya father,& fathers father path,them niggahs aint burn no burner to ya head & say rep the hood thats a fact, maybe some niggahs will be gullable to believe that line but i aint(born into something nonsense)

In some cases that do happen

[Qdawg]

i had 1 brother from cali i met when i was 15-16 tell me the gangs in cali was there to protect against the lapd...thats why it should only be bloods & crips there only....after i finished laughing i had to say that was the dumbest reason when yah niggahs out there is banging on other blacks...as well as it being worser police brutality in other cities then l.a...ny is a start

[Shox112]

i had 1 brother from cali i met when i was 15-16 tell me the gangs in cali was there to protect against the lapd...thats why it should only be bloods & crips there only....after i finished laughing i had to say that was the dumbest reason when yah niggahs out there is banging on other blacks...as well as it being worser police brutality in other cities then l.a...ny is a start

Quit it with that East Coast bias before I BAN U Q ...REAL TALK THO' NIGGAZ SCATTER LIKE ROACHES AT the SITE OF A Black AND WHITE... BUT PART OF the BEGINNINGS HAD A LIL TO DO WHAT that...IM NOT TRYIN TO STEP ON ANY TOES BUT IM A PUT IT LIKE DIS YOULL NEVER UNDERSTAND...ME UNDERSTANDIN the NY EXPERIENCE IS ALMOST AS FOREIGN TO ME AS GROWIN UP IN COMMUNIST RUSSIA, YOU DONT UNDERSTAND the CULTURE, VIBE, AND MENTALITY UNLESS YOU WERE SOCIALIZED THERE

[Qdawg]

@eastcoast bias....na i got "a mutual feeling" for everywhere, but yeah i hear ya@cops

[Hell]

Why is ya'll niggaz still bitch!in about this situation?,the niggaz in UBN starting their stuff fo a reason ya'll fools already know that point blank.

[Trav]

Why is ya'll niggaz still bitch!in about this situation?,the niggaz in UBN starting their stuff fo a reason ya'll fools already know that point blank.

Since NY is such trend setters why didn't they start something different from the bloods? Start something then click up with bloods just don't bite the whole damn thing. NY is known for startin trends thats why its so difficult for everyone to digest.

[Hell]

Why the so called o.g mack named it or should i say started it cause it was maybe to much bloodshed going on between our black race against them racist azz hispanic's and mexicans always trying to rule things,or he watch a documentary about "the bloods" and it inspired him.

[LcBwC]

Why is ya'll niggaz still bitch!in about this situation?,the niggaz in UBN starting their stuff fo a reason ya'll fools already know that point blank.

Since NY is such trend setters why didn't they start something different from the bloods? Start something then click up with bloods just don't bite the whole damn thing. NY is known for startin trends thats why its so difficult for everyone to digest.

Its difficult for me to digest cuz NY always hypin ish up and downing CA esp in the 90s....but now CA aint so bad huh hahaha

[LcBwC]

Why the so called o.g mack named it or should i say started it cause it was maybe to much bloodshed going on between our black race against them racist azz hispanic's and mexicans always trying to rule things,or he watch a documentary about "the bloods" and it inspired him.

One can make that arguement but when they start emulating CA bdogs its no longer understood. Why bang on Crips? Why flame up? Why the rags? Why lil niccas making a claim so hard to be tied to CA in some type of way? If it was their own thing and just happened to have the same name, then why not keep the original enemy...now they got Puerto Ricans runnin with them in the street. BACKWARDS

[Hell]

UBN BLOODS DIDN'T USED THE 5 UNTIL 2000, BUT THAT IS THE EXPLANATION FOR ALL THE LK AND BLOOD BEEF, CAUSE THEY KNOW BLOOD AINT SUPPOSE TO BANG THE 5.

[TeeKay]

Wut I don't undestand is why after 14 years, do niggas wanna question this ny blood shit? This shit been out here since 93', baq when the latin kings were assaulting the black inmates on the island causing them to form UBN (united blood nation). This shit been out in these streets before all this gang glorifying shit started, why niggas got sumthin 2 say or question when jim jones starts wearing a flag? I don't know how it is in upstate new york or the rural parts of new york, but out here in the city (I'm talkin bx, bk, queens etc.) Niggas keep it gully, there's fake blood n crip niggas here, but there's also fake blood n loc niggas out in the west 2, and worldwide... I'm tired of tellin niggas theres bitch niggas n real gangsters everywhere. Rappers on the videos don't represent real niggas dying in these streets. And out of all states new 2 this cali gang shit, ya niggas trynna get at ny?
Have yall been 2 florida? Boston? Conneticut? That shit makes me laugh when I see niggas out there n I aint even a cali nigga...its all gravy tho, I like the old new york, when being a drug kingpin wuz the shit, n niggas had they own personal crews... I rather make big paper than kill niggas 4 a fu*kin flag, that shit is pointless out here, it aint like cali niggas that r born into that shit...I do respect that the homie eldorado red get love out there tho, especially as a harlem blood nigga, that's why u can't say niggas out here aint official kuz niggaz is dyin over this shit 2 out here.....

The thing is though, yeah ok some NY dudes is bangin,but they lackin the culture.

[TeeKay]

i think its the fact that the NY hatin on the west so bad back in the day now they have branches of that they not lettin them live it down...

True, back in the day i would have laughed, the last person to copy cali would be NY i would of said on that,midwest is in the middle so they get a bit of both chi and la.

[Young Deuce]

st.louis is not as Chi town influenced as u may think..... except fa the eastside....but yeah is red really excepted on the west like it seems???

[Shox112]

is there a difference between es/ws st.lou and u know that city on the other side of the mississippi river east st. lou in illinois, i think?

[Young Deuce]

eastside is east st.louis ILL we just count that as the eastside...st.louis (as in just the city) has north,west, south,central west end, and downtown) but we count the eastide as a part of the lou......

[Redrag52]

Why is ya'll niggaz still bitch!in about this situation?,the niggaz in UBN starting their stuff fo a reason ya'll fools already know that point blank.

Since NY is such trend setters why didn't they start something different from the bloods? Start something then click up with bloods just don't bite the whole damn thing. NY is known for startin trends thats why its so difficult for everyone to digest.

thats very true they should have called thereselves the " nine trey gang " and then they could ride the 5 points if they wanted too.
but not steal the blood & Ubn name and ride on there reputation. if he wanted to connect with bloods go to california have a sit down with an OG.

[Redrag52]

Why the so called o.g mack named it or should i say started it cause it was maybe to much bloodshed going on between our black race against them racist azz hispanic's and mexicans always trying to rule things,or he watch a documentary about "the bloods" and it inspired him.

Hispanics always try to take on blacks when they are large in numbers , as from what i heard he read a " book " in the penn and from what he new from gang influence from music and somebody he bumped into told him about bloods in california , so he came up with his own ideas on creating his fake version of bloods.

in newyork you have fake bloods , wannabee bloods , non - black gang groupies , and transformers people switchin to fake bloods from other gangs and from enemy rivals , and then you have REAL california connected bloods and crips wich is very few.

[Redrag52]

Why the so called o.g mack named it or should i say started it cause it was maybe to much bloodshed going on between our black race against them racist azz hispanic's and mexicans always trying to rule things,or he watch a documentary about "the bloods" and it inspired him.

One can make that arguement but when they start emulating CA bdogs its no longer understood. Why bang on Crips? Why flame up? Why the rags? Why lil niccas making a claim so hard to be tied to CA in some type of way? If it was their own thing and just happened to have the same name, then why not keep the original enemy...now they got Puerto Ricans runnin with them in the street. BACKWARDS

LOL , yep that is stupid , thats like having f - 13 becoming eastcoast crips , when there enemies , thats them ketchup nickas , being blood is a friendship club a fan club , you should see the kids from the school system here , man its like a infatuation epidemic , you they got groups of spanish guys claimn there bloods jumping a black kid , LOL thats like a group of black kids claimin there latin kings or ms - 13 , jumping and beating up latinos and other hispanic .....BACKWARDS , they dont have clue

[Redrag52]

they dont understand what it is to be a blood or the history of bloods , they think you just get flamed up and go out and attack people , to show you a gangsta , like them bandanas is going to make you strong , crips and bloods should be bringing back pride to black people and protecting the black community from crooked cops , child molesters , rapist , and racisim from any race of people , getting the people to generate money for there selves and the people as a whole so we can grow as black people. thats the direction they want us to go , thats what i was taught in california

[Redrag52]

they dont understand what it is to be a blood or the history of bloods , they think you just get flamed up and go out and attack people , to show you a gangsta , like them bandanas is going to make you strong , crips and bloods should be bringing back pride to black people and protecting the black community from crooked cops , child molesters , rapist , and racisim from any race of people , getting the people to generate money for there selves and the people as a whole so we can grow as black people. thats the direction they want us to go , thats what i was taught in california

i cant blame them either cause some homies do the same thing out west too and thats what they see on them dvds

[LcBwC]

Ive said it time and time again....I dont get it and I never will. It makes no sense to me. I wouldnt even want to be apart of something that wasnt on some real ish.

[Redrag52]

Ive said it time and time again....I dont get it and I never will. It makes no sense to me. I wouldnt even want to be apart of something that wasnt on some real ish.

LcBwC - i feel you 100% homie , i dont even throw it up with these dudes here , i only keep in contact with homies i know whos from the west here in newyork and they each got there own stories to tell you about these ketchup niggs , i sit with the lil homies whos willing to learn and know the history and where it should go for the future. but the fakes they are die hard lost on some 1988 old school california fantasy. hilarious "

[Shox112]

they dont understand what it is to be a blood or the history of bloods , they think you just get flamed up and go out and attack people , to show you a gangsta , like them bandanas is going to make you strong , crips and bloods should be bringing back pride to black people and protecting the black community from crooked cops , child molesters , rapist , and racisim from any race of people , getting the people to generate money for there selves and the people as a whole so we can grow as black people. thats the direction they want us to go , thats what i was taught in california

honestly my nigga I got no doubt in my mind that u got connected with some g's from the Puebs