Australia:Race riots spread from the beach to the suburbs

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those are just some pictures.

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Middle Eastern Gangs had it comming in Sydney...

Unread post by ajay049 » December 13th, 2005, 11:59 am

The emergence of Middle Eastern crime groups was first observed in NSW
in the mid 1990s. Before then, they had been known largely for
individual acts of antisocial behaviour and for loose family
structures involved in heroin importation and supply as well as motor
vehicle theft and conversion.

The one crime that did appear organised before this period was
insurance fraud, usually motor vehicle accidents and arson. Because
these crimes were largely victimless, they were dealt with by
insurance companies and police involvement was limited.

But from these insurance scams, a generation of young criminals
emerged to engage in more sophisticated crimes – among them extortion,
armed robbery, organised narcotics importation and supply, gun
running, organised factory and warehouse break-ins, and car theft and
conversion on a vast scale, including the exporting of stolen luxury
vehicles to Lebanon and other Middle Eastern countries.

It probably took 20 years for the Chinese to become a dominant force
in crime in Sydney. But Middle Eastern crime has taken less than 10
years. So pervasive is Middle Eastern influence on organised crime in
Sydney that rival ethnic groups, with the exception of the Asian
gangs, have been squeezed out or rendered extinct. The only other
crime group to have survived intact are the bikies – although they
have now legitimised many of their operations and now make as much
money through legal means as they do illegally.

With no organised-crime experience, no gang unit other than the
South-East Asian Strike Force, the NSW Police turned against every
convention known to Western policing in dealing with organised crime
groups. In effect, the Lebanese crime gangs were handed the keys to
the city of Sydney.

The most influential of the Middle Eastern crime groups are the Muslim
males of Telopea Street, Bankstown, in southwest Sydney. The Telopea
Street Boys and their associates have been involved in numerous
murders over the past five years – many of them unprovoked attacks on
young Australian men for no other reason than the ethnicity of the
victims.

They have been involved in all manner of crime on a scale we have
never before seen or even contemplated. Ram raids on expensive brand
stores in the city are endemic. The theft of expensive motor vehicles
known as car-jacking is increasing at an alarming rate. This crime
involves gangs of Lebanese or Pacific Islander males finding a luxury
motor vehicle parked outside a restaurant or hotel and watching until
the occupants return to drive home. The car is followed, the victims
assaulted at gunpoint and the vehicle stolen. The vehicles are always
worth about $100,000 or more, and it is believed they are taken to
warehouses before being shipped interstate or overseas to the Middle
East.

The extent to which Middle Eastern crime gangs have moved into the
drug market is breathtaking. They are now the main suppliers of
cocaine in Sydney and are developing markets in southeastern
Queensland and Victoria. They are leading suppliers of heroin in and
around the inner city, southwest Sydney and western Sydney.

But what sets the Middle Eastern gangs apart from all other gangs is
their propensity to use violence at any time and for any reason.
Unlike their Vietnamese counterparts, Middle Eastern crime gangs roam
the city and are not confined to Cabramatta or Chinatown. And even
more alarming is that the violence is directed mainly against young
Australian men and women. It is plain that violent attacks on our
young men and women are racial as well as criminal.

Quite often when taking statements from young men attacked by groups
of Lebanese males around Darling Harbour, a common theme that emerges
is that the violence is racially motivated: the victims are attacked
simply because they are Australian.

I wonder whether the inventors of the racial hatred laws introduced
during the golden years of multiculturalism ever contemplated the
possibility that we, the silent majority, would be the target of
racial violence and hatred. I don't remember any race-based charges
being laid in conjunction with the gang rapes of southwestern Sydney
in 2001, where race was clearly an issue and racial slurs were used to
humiliate the victims.

Unbelievably, a publicly funded document produced by the
Anti-Discrimination Board, titled The Race for Headlines, was then
circulated. It sought to not only cover up race as a motive for the
rapes but to criticise any accurate reporting on this matter in the
media as racially biased. It worries many operational police that
organisations such as the ADB, the Privacy Commission and the Council
for Civil Liberties have become unaccountable and push agendas that
don't represent the values that this great country was built on.

Many have heard of the horrific problems in France with an
unprecedented outbreak of crimes among an estimated 5 million Muslim
immigrants. Middle Eastern males now make up 45,000 of the 90,000
inmates in French prisons. There are no-go areas in Paris for police
and citizens alike. The rule of law has broken down so badly that when
police went to one of these areas recently to round up three Islamic
terrorists, they went in armoured vehicles, with heavy weaponry and
more than 1,000 armed officers – just to arrest a few suspects.

Why did they need such numbers? Because the threat of terrorist
reprisal was minimal compared to the anticipated revolt by thousands
of Middle Eastern and North African residents, who have no respect for
the rule of law in France and consider intrusions by police and other
authorities a declaration of war.

The problems in Paris's Muslim communities are being replicated in
Sydney at an alarming rate. Paris has seen an explosion of rapes
committed by Middle Eastern males against French women in the past 15
years. The rapes are almost identical to those in Sydney. The rapes
are committed not only for sexual gratification: there are also deep
racial undertones, along with threats of violence and retribution.

What is more alarming is the identical reaction among some sections of
the media and criminologists in France: they downplay the race factor
and even gang up on those who try to draw attention to the widening
gulf between Middle Eastern youths and the rest of French society.

That is what we are seeing in Australia. The usual suspects come out
of their institutions and libraries to downplay and even cover up the
growing problem of Middle Eastern crime. Why? Because these same
social engineers have attempted to redefine our society. They have
experimented with all manner of institutions – from prisons to mental
institutions and, recently, policing.

Some of the problems we now see with policing are the result of former
NSW police commissioner Peter Ryan's dream of restructuring and
retraining the force. The police academy was changed from a training
college into a university teaching social sciences and very little
else. Constantly, I'd see young police officers emerge from the
academy with a view that as police officers they were counsellors,
psychologists, marriage guidance experts, social workers and advocates
for social change, but with almost no skills in street policing. Their
training endangered not only them but also their workmates and the
community.

Never mind that policing is about enforcing the rule of law. It's
never been about analysing each offender for the root causes of crime.
The police enforce the law and protect the community regardless of
race, colour or religion. What we have seen in southwest Sydney is
ethnic communities being policed selectively. The implications for
this are frightening when you look at Paris. The French practised
selective policing of a particular community, which is subsequently
now out of control.

In February 2001, when I appeared before an inquiry into Cabramatta's
crime problem, I gave evidence which at the time attracted the usual
claque of ratbags from the ABC and their associates at The Sydney
Morning Herald, as well as Sydney's Radio 2UE broadcaster Mike
Carlton. I said that Sydney is going to be torn apart by gang warfare
the likes of which we have never seen. Last year I was finally proved
right, but I take no comfort from that. However, the criticism I
received was unprecedented. I was a nutter, a liar, a racist, a
disgruntled detective.

Of course, the critics still refuse to concede that we have a problem.
They are still clinging to the multicultural theme. To highlight the
problems with Middle Eastern communities in Sydney is to tear down the
multicultural facade.

The amount of money spent on the multicultural industry beggars
belief. It is a lucrative position for many. Governments pour huge
money into anything that includes the word multicultural. Indeed, the
police department, like other government departments, spends vast
amounts on multicultural issues, jobs, education packages, legal
advice, public relations and the rest. Having expended large amounts
of money on multiculturalism, they are hardly likely to criticise it.
Those that feed off multiculturalism are almost certainly not likely
to question it.

That groups of Middle Eastern males can roam a city and assault, rob
and intimidate at will can no longer be denied or excused. You need
only to look at Paris and other European countries that have had mass
immigration from Middle Eastern countries to see the sort of problems
we can look forward to in years to come. My prediction is that within
10 years Middle Eastern crime groups will have spread and their
influence will extend across Australia as they seek to expand their
enterprises. There will be no-go areas in southwest Sydney just like
there are in Paris.

Only recently I have seen quotes from senior police and retired police
who claim that race is not the issue in organised crime. Those
statements are stupid and dangerous. Organised crime groups, with the
exception of the bikies, are almost always ethnically based – any
experienced detective will tell you that. Barring one or two local
beach gangs, the days of Anglo-Saxon gangs are all but over.

I also predict that there will be a dramatic rise in gang shootings as
rival gangs compete for turf and business. This will be done with
almost complete disregard for police attention, as they are aware that
the NSW Police Service has to be rebuilt from the ground floor. In the
past three years we have seen the phenomenon of drive-by shootings,
Los Angeles style. Not only are the increasing incidents a serious
cause of concern, but even more so is the use of automatic weapons
that spray hundreds of rounds at their targets. This is virtually
unprecedented in Australia.

Indeed, the issue has become so serious that some of these Middle
Eastern youth who are engaged in organised crime, and who have no
regard for our values and way of life, may go a step further and
engage in terrorist acts against Australia. The ingredients are there
already. It is but a small step from urban terrorism to religious and
political terrorism, as we have seen with groups such as the Irish
Republican Army, with organised crime often being confused with
terrorism.

I don't want to paint a story of doom and gloom. But, as a former
policeman, I've seen the destruction that gangs can wreak on innocent
citizens who want nothing more than to live in peace. I just hope we
can trust the people in government and the police to ensure that we
don't lose the values and the rights we have received from past
generations.

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Unread post by $outh$ide » December 13th, 2005, 7:17 pm

on sunday they were goin after anyone that looked ethnic me friend who is half aussie & italian (he looks more asian) got spat on & yelled at he was sitting on a milk crate & smacked some guy with it & got chased by like 60+ people (he is only 16). its shit they have blocked of streetz u cant go see friends/family u have to be from the area to get thru.

Manic the lebos who smacked the life savers r surposely(spelt) from hurstville

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Unread post by $outh$ide » December 13th, 2005, 7:21 pm

Manic some of me friendz reckon the only reason they smashed up maroubra was coz of the Bra Boys said they wouldnt dare come down they are scared & no we wood fight back etc (somethig like that)

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Unread post by Maniac » December 13th, 2005, 7:41 pm

The middle eastern people created the problem for bashing the life saver and harrassing people so do u think its ok for lebanese people to bottles at innocent people and injuring innocents.

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Unread post by Invincible » December 13th, 2005, 10:58 pm

lmao at the name Bra boys!!

bra boys vs pissed off white boys round 1.

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Unread post by Maniac » December 13th, 2005, 11:15 pm

Bra Boys are white boys dumb dumb.

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Unread post by Dr. Gonzo » December 13th, 2005, 11:27 pm

Invincible wrote:white boys be representing and banging and repping those hoods yo!


Now that boys and girls is classic Invincible. LOL

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Unread post by Maniac » December 13th, 2005, 11:35 pm

You should see the gangs in my hood none of em took part in the riots.And they wont stop and im sick of people complaing in the editorials and letter opinion shit in the papers.

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Unread post by Invincible » December 14th, 2005, 1:31 am

Are you sure those aren't the bra and panties boys?

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Unread post by Maniac » December 14th, 2005, 2:35 am

You actually have to be here to see what is going on.....in Bankstown you got Blak Ave Families, Bankstown Bloods, Jnr Rebels, Crazy Boys, HR and many more including more Blood and Crip sets.

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Unread post by $outh$ide » December 14th, 2005, 4:55 am

Invincible they are called Bra Boys coz it is the place they b at is called maroubra. u got it now

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Unread post by $outh$ide » December 14th, 2005, 4:59 am

HR in Bankstown didnt no there was many aussies in bankstown

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Unread post by MiChuhSuh » December 14th, 2005, 12:02 pm

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Invincible wrote:first Katrina, than France, now this. Thats 3 different race groups. And the Mexicans arent known to riot or stereotyped as such, by adding them onto arabs and blacks and saying whites think of them as the looters isnt correct.



THE ARABS DON'T BELONG THERE THEY ARE MIGRANTS.....

FRANCE AND KATRINA DON'T HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT THESE ARABS HAVE DONE OR BEEN ACCUSED OF DOING IN AU.....
You dumbass, if that is true the whites are migrants there too, they were originally the criminals that were by Britain, don't you know ANY history?

Only Aborigins and other natives belong there.

And that's not to say that the whites don't bleong theree, I'm saying that it goes with your logic to say that.

Immigrants should not be treated like that. Acme, whites are immigrants in America, so should the Native American tribes riot and killl off everyone else?

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Unread post by peace2dastreets » December 14th, 2005, 3:16 pm

Man so much hate going on over there and on this board too... I can't believe all this racism i'm reading here... I mean for shit's sake, we're all frikkin humans here.

But i kno this is somewhat hyprocritical for me to say this now, but SOMETIMES i really do have a strong disliking for muslim people. I feel ashamed of it actually cuz i kno its not really warranted. Here in Toronto, there's always shit going down with Iranians cuz they're so damn cocky to others and always try to start fights but always run away. Often i go to my old highschool when i hear about beefs going on, and i help people quash it. Persians are always unreasonable or run off or never follow thru with what they say. I can see why aussies might be pissed of with the Lebanese if they're even one quarter of the dicks the Persians around here are. But in the end, i realize thats all personal beef... and it should stay that way... To go off and start attacking random innocent people is out of line. And for the record, i do have some Persian friends too, so its not like i hate the whole race...

I think in France and Australia with muslims, or blacks or other minorities in Canada or the US, a lot of people feel that immigrants come over cause a ruckus and create a tear in the national fabric... To those people i ask you, if ur feeling that way, do u think that you or society in general has given those people the appropraite opportunities or welcoming to help them integrate and be part of the society we live in and be able to fullfill the dreams of immigration that our past generations were able to do as tehy immigrated to North America or Australia? (uhh, the question isn't directed to you if ur African American, sorry >_<)In my opinion, the answer is no, or at least, not enough.

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Unread post by MiChuhSuh » December 14th, 2005, 4:05 pm

AcmeWhiteBread wrote:Allah doesnt exist. Allah is the figment of some dehydrated camel jockies imagination. So F^ck Allah and F^ck you punk


Do you even know what Allah means?

"Allah" just means God, that is why in Arabic translations of the BIBLE and TORAH and other things that they say "Allah" too.

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Unread post by UmanH-ay » December 18th, 2005, 11:28 pm

DC wrote:To understand why this is happening you have to know what the Arabs have been doing in Sydney for the last 10+ years, they prey on the weak and get around in groups of 20+ bashing aussie males who are out having a good time with there girlfirends. They rape Australian women and spit on our mothers, this has been along time coming and Australians have had enough of getting pushed around in our own backyard and are fighting back.
This is not racism it is pissed off people who have had enough of this disrespect for our country, not only were white Australians involved, there were Samoans, Tongans and people from all European backgrounds gathering together to show that they are sick and tired of these Arab trouble makers.


Now as racial as I’m about to sound, I have experienced this at first hand. Now my explanation isn’t going to justify the actions but I’m just giving another point of view. The Lebanese have been known to be quite a confrontational and in your face group of people. Of course, mainly the Lebanese youth who are the so-called “trouble makers” (not all Lebanese youth of course). Its similar to the mainly Pacific Island dominated little gangs in South Auckland and we have a similar situation, but at a larger scale where there have been worse things.

part 2 - Tension between Lebanese and Aussies has been brewing for years, this is nothing new, but it has only recently escalated when two lifeguards were bashed by a group of Middle Eastern youth. In recent times, Lebanese youth have been trying to stamp their authority in South Sydney and in the Sutherland Shire area of Cronulla and the other surrounding beaches by causing trouble, picking on people and just making a fuss.

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Unread post by UmanH-ay » December 18th, 2005, 11:42 pm

part 3- Now I have a reliable source telling me that nothing eventuated because the Lebanese didn’t show, but things got over the top when you mix a group of young Aussies and alcohol. Although I think the Lebanese were smarter in avoiding Cronulla and went everywhere else causing trouble heh. I also heard the little tweety telling me that a group of Samoans, Tongans and Maoris went down in support of the Aussies due to the rise in tension between the Lebos and Shire Folk (the names for Lebanese and Aussies from the Sutherland Shire area).

I guess it depends on which side of the fence you’re sitting on.

part 4 - Lebanese youth have been burning the Australian flag and going around in numbers intimidating any Anglo-Saxon Aussies. The Anglo's have in turn gone out in numbers looking to dish out hidings to any Middle-Eastern looking folks.

As stupid as I'm about to sound, I was kind of siding with the "Aussies" because memories growing up seeing people being constantly intimidated by Lebanese. It’s also at the point where quite a few of my cousins back in Sydney are also in support of the "Aussies" whom live in and around Manly and they went down to Cronulla on Sunday. I know, really stupid, please excuse my ignorance.

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Unread post by UmanH-ay » December 18th, 2005, 11:49 pm

heres what a friend of mine showed me from a friend of his who posted this:

its a pretty touchy subject i guess, espc when your all in perth and don't really have much of an idea as to whats going on here, apart from what the media decides to show over there.

Its been building up for such a long time, with all the gangs of lebs that rape "ozzie bitches" and "skippy poofters" on trains, the girls that get attacked in shopping centre carparks and all the guys that get their faces re-arranged by gangs of them.

The fact that u can't even walk in suburbs on your own during the day let alone at night for fear of getting attacked or having abuse hurled at u, doesn't surprise me that this has happened at all.

In the 20 years i lived here, i've had them try to drag me into cars whilst going to work, been chased through the city by them, (and literally had to run down back allies in the city and slide under parked cars) had countless mates have to go to hospital and get their faces put back together after they have been jumped for NO reason in the streets.

It's when they're in their groups and they're getting all cocky that they do shit, and i know allot of leb, serb and cro guys and girls who are really nice, and even they think its fucking shit as to the rep they have just cause others go and do this shit and then proclaim their "leb" or "serb" or "cro" when most of them were fucking born here.

the way i see it is the bastards that rape the girls, attack the boys and start the shit, are dogs, and should be treated like dogs and be fucking put down.

thats MY opinion, u wanna jump on the racist bandwagon then go ahead, but until u experience what its like here, and what its been like here for the last 10-15 years, then u really can't relate to it.


And I can understand what this girl's says, but it doesnt mean that australians can go around beating up middle eastern and mediterannian looking people for kicks. The crime rate for maori and samoan and Tongan
is much higher than caucasians. Does this mean white people can go around knifing them just in case they might beat me up or steal my stereo?

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Unread post by UmanH-ay » December 18th, 2005, 11:50 pm

the above response to the email was made from a friend i know who is a white dude

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Unread post by Maniac » December 18th, 2005, 11:55 pm

Catalyst i agree on all that.

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Unread post by Maniac » December 18th, 2005, 11:56 pm

The aussies and the islanders have always stuck together from what i seen.

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Unread post by perongregory » December 19th, 2005, 12:08 am

who gives a fuck what lebs have a rep for - that shit isn't right what those aussies did. I bet none of you will justify what them 8 trays did to reginald denny in the wake of rodney king's trial, or the blacks that burned korean stores, or a hypothetical situation where any peoples who were intimidated just go out and start beating others down.

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Unread post by Invincible » December 19th, 2005, 12:11 am

perongregory, isnt that what happens in prison riots? what happens to the guys who dont want to riot?

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Unread post by perongregory » December 19th, 2005, 1:23 am

i don't understand what you sayin man.

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Unread post by Invincible » December 19th, 2005, 2:08 am

meaning people are forced to riot that dont want to.

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Unread post by Christina Marie » December 19th, 2005, 8:36 am

Invincible wrote:meaning people are forced to riot that dont want to.


Thats just ridiculous ^.:roll:

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Unread post by AcmeWhiteBread » December 19th, 2005, 12:25 pm

Prison riots pick you, you dont pick them. If you dont jump when your race jumps, your done. Thats from level 2 on up. Level 1 I have seen black guys giving white guys haircuts! LOL! White backlash is long over due in all western countries. We have groveled at the feet of all non white races for at least 35 years trying to prove we can be just by the countless dollars and the imeasurable time we have spent trying to be inclusive. This is still insifficient in the eyes of so many non whites and is thrown back in our face year after year. Can you imagine what progress our western hemisphere could be displaying in terms of sociological and scientific achievements if our attention had not been spent on this insane social experiment? Its staggering. Yet we plunge along getting called all sorts of names, being held accountable for acts of slavery that occured despite EVERY RACE ON THE PLANET BEING PART OF IT. I say lets end it. If you dont like it, then see ya. If you just want to get on with the program, then ride and shut up.

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Unread post by Christina Marie » December 19th, 2005, 12:30 pm

AcmeWhiteBread wrote:Prison riots pick you, you dont pick them. If you dont jump when your race jumps, your done. Thats from level 2 on up. Level 1 I have seen black guys giving white guys haircuts! LOL! White backlash is long over due in all western countries. We have groveled at the feet of all non white races for at least 35 years trying to prove we can be just by the countless dollars and the imeasurable time we have spent trying to be inclusive. This is still insifficient in the eyes of so many non whites and is thrown back in our face year after year. Can you imagine what progress our western hemisphere could be displaying in terms of sociological and scientific achievements if our attention had not been spent on this insane social experiment? Its staggering. Yet we plunge along getting called all sorts of names, being held accountable for acts of slavery that occured despite EVERY RACE ON THE PLANET BEING PART OF IT. I say lets end it. If you dont like it, then see ya. If you just want to get on with the program, then ride and shut up.



Oh shut up. :roll: I am white, I don't grovel. Maybe you have...but thats on you. We are all equal and its time that this "holier than thou" shit be done with.

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Unread post by Christina Marie » December 19th, 2005, 12:31 pm

P.SSSSSSS. Go back to Stormfront...obviously that site is much better suited to you're beliefs.

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Unread post by AcmeWhiteBread » December 20th, 2005, 11:10 am

No I dont grovel either. But as a whole through your financial contributions if your a tax payer, then your involved. Your a female so your emotions get in the way of your decision making. You dont EVER have a conversation with a female if it involves possibly hurting someones feelings. She will always take up the side of the percieved victim of critisism. Thats why men have alway ruled te world, we dont let emotion cloud our logic. Stormfront is a bunch of booger eating hillbillies. There is no equality in this world, never will be. And everything I have said is on point. The part that always trips me up is why white people always stick up for anyone but their own kind...strange

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