Whats the difference?

These concepts are socially constructed and have been given much weight. What are your thoughts?

Postby Sentenza » October 6th, 2006, 7:44 pm

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that makes more sense but you acting like everybody scared of the AB, and they all just got they eyes on them, and if they was so strong and all that BS, why they got Eme doin the muscle work for them. Look at a good portion of white crime over histor,y they always have another race doing their dirty work,


That is not necessarily true. Even if its a bad example, but Hitler had his white people doing the real dirty work for him (SS,SA etc.). The Foreign Legion also is white and they do dirty work for several countries/companies. There are a few examples to say the least.

perongregory wrote: while you hardly have instances of other races getting whites to do their dirty work.


Thats true. I just started thinkin about that.

perongregory wrote: And im not blowin blacks up or anybody but you always tryna blow up some white gang like they are the baddest shit. The only bad white gangs are the governments of the west, they put it down and you can check they g-files.


Yea, the baddest white gangs are the governments (some of them), but there are some on the streets that are not to be messed with also. Dont mess with Hells Angels for example. But your point has been proven.
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Postby Invincible » October 6th, 2006, 8:12 pm

the ab didnt need mexicans to do work for them before taking san quentin (for a number of years they were alone and even still the blacks arent alone either) on top of which it is the ab that does msot of the emes muscle work not the other way around as in return the eme has more influence and drugs on the streets:

"During the late 1950s, white inmates in California prisons were frequently being assaulted and victimized by roving bands of predatory inmates. Most of whom were either black or Hispanic. Rapes, beatings, stabings, cell thefts, and other acts of violence directed at white inmates had become rampant, and the administration seemed unable to control them. Some of the stronger white inmates began arming themselves with prison made weapons and fighting back. Many of these were renegade bikers, some fo whom had tiny bits of glas embedded in their teeth and called themselves the Diamond tooth Gang. Members of the Diamond Tooth gang encouraged other whites to arm themselves and stick together to put a stop to the attacks once and for all. Other whites joined in, yet the Diamond tooth still lacked the sufficient membership to discourage further attacks. Recruitment stepped up. As more inmates joined the gang dropped the name Diamond Tooth in favor of the Blue bird gang. Their identifying tatoo, usually inscribed on the neck, was a pair of blue birds in flight, which symbolized freedom.

The Blue Birds gained strengh for awhile, and than began to falter. During the turbulent 1960s, all out race wars erupted within the prison system, pitting Blacks, Hispanics, and Whites against each other. It was during this period that several neo-nazi groups on the yard at San Quentin teamed up with the remnants of the Blue Birds, giving birth to what would become one of the most feared and violent prison gangs, the Aryan Brotherhood.

The AB limited membership to only the strongest and most violent White inmates and those who would kill without question. A "blood-in blood-out" decree was issued for all members. To gain membership, a prospect had to kill whomever the AB targeted. The only way out of the gang was death.

"The purpose of the Aryan Brotherhood is to bring back respect that is long overdue in coming to this prison and to the White Race! At all costs! We will strive to maintain that respect.

To reinforce their goal of beocming the most feared gang at San Quentin, The AB, which numbered around 100 members, put out the green light (open season to hit) on all blacks, regardless of their gang or political affiliation. AB soldiers eargerly jumped at this opportunity to retaliate for the violence that had been directed against the white inmates previously. Blacks suddenly found themselves being attacked without provocation by soldiers of this newly created white warrior society. In the early 1970's, gang assaults and murders within the California prison system climbed dramatically, the AB was responsible for many of these.

To show disrespect to the AB meant isntant bloody retribution. Not the slightest insult was tolerated. Once its reputation for brutality had been established, the AB moved right on into the control of organized prison rackets. Protection, extortion, narcotics, weapons, and contract hits followed, including the brutal murders of career correctional officers by known AB leaders."
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Postby Invincible » October 6th, 2006, 8:14 pm

I think the primary reason for the allegianc ein the first place was so the ab could get more power and drug influence on the streets, in prison the ab can direct alot of influence and power esp over the entire white if not all inmate population, but once they hit the streets they ar eoutn umbere dby hundreds of thousands of gang members all fighting for drug control.
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Postby Invincible » October 6th, 2006, 8:16 pm

"And im not blowin blacks up or anybody but you always tryna blow up some white gang like they are the baddest shit. The only bad white gangs are the governments of the west, they put it down and you can check they g-files."

the white gangs were always the msot pwoerful, look at organized crime, they run almost the entire underworld and local street gangs do their dirty work for them or else they get wiped out. Almost alll the pwoerful organized crime gangs like hells angels, la cosa nostra, Russian mafia are white. On top of which the most dangerous prisoners designated by california, federal system, etc. are white.
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Postby Sentenza » October 6th, 2006, 8:23 pm

It is not necessarily true. Yea, Italian Mafia and the Russian Mfia are some of them most powerful '"gangs" in the world. No doubt.
But in Asia, Africa and South America they hold no weight. Its a matter of the area and you will have a powerful organization in the fitting skin colour.
Ever heard of the Nigerian Mafia? Yakuza? Triads?
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Postby Invincible » October 6th, 2006, 8:53 pm

actually the Russian mafia holds weight in almost any westernized country, why would they try to hold weight in third world empoverished countries where there is no money to be made?
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Postby perongregory » October 6th, 2006, 9:58 pm

you trippin if you dont think places like afghanistan and colombia there aint shit to profit off of. There are a lot of bad ass white gangs but there are other bad ass gangs too. The mafia could never get a hold over Cali because the street gang culture was too embedded and hard to take under control.
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Postby NICKELS » October 6th, 2006, 10:40 pm

on the west the mexicans run the prison system ........the blacks are out numbered but organized and very fu-cking ferocious !! and the whites are manipulative and band with the mexicans cause they are the dominating factor and very large in numbers ....and they have buissness connections
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Postby NICKELS » October 6th, 2006, 10:42 pm

perongregory wrote:you trippin if you dont think places like afghanistan and colombia there aint shit to profit off of. There are a lot of bad ass white gangs but there are other bad ass gangs too. The mafia could never get a hold over Cali because the street gang culture was too embedded and hard to take under control.


very trueeeeeeeeee
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Postby Invincible » October 7th, 2006, 12:01 am

but obviously the ab could take a hold of san quentin and survive alone for a decade, such tough gang culture here.
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Postby Invincible » October 7th, 2006, 12:03 am

and yet the government is only going after the ab, I wonder why if the mexicans and blacks are so powerful youd think they would go after the biggest threat.
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Postby Invincible » October 7th, 2006, 12:03 am

perongregory wrote:you trippin if you dont think places like afghanistan and colombia there aint shit to profit off of. There are a lot of bad ass white gangs but there are other bad ass gangs too. The mafia could never get a hold over Cali because the street gang culture was too embedded and hard to take under control.


there ar eno white people who live in those places though, thats like saying why dont mexicans run canada.
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Postby NICKELS » October 7th, 2006, 12:04 am

put it like this blacks and mexicans run them streets aint no white gang gone ever control a city like cali or any other unless its near a farm in wyoming or idaho
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Postby Invincible » October 7th, 2006, 12:11 am

well they can control prisons just not the streets, caus einside prisons they can sue violence to control other inmates and there are no guns.
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Postby Invincible » October 7th, 2006, 12:18 am

anyway if you go back to the 18 hundreds white gangs were just as powerful and numerous as ethnic gangs are now, just watch gangs of new york and the documentary it comes with the dvd. There were tons of thousands of gangs just in that city which were white.
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Postby perongregory » October 7th, 2006, 12:53 am

yeah but the positions of those ethnic whites have changed, they dont need those kinda gangs no more or they been in organized crime long enough now. Blacks and latinos still at the bottom so they still have street gangs running around.
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Postby NICKELS » October 7th, 2006, 1:59 am

mexicans run them prisons homie........they got sheer numbers whites cant do sh-t without the eses permission , it was a race riot early this year that put everybody on lockdown. check up on it. and the blacks be holding there own even in smaller numbers
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Postby Invincible » October 7th, 2006, 2:50 am

there were riots recently between whites and Mexicans in San Quentin and other prisons, shows what you know. Anyway Mexicans and to some extent blacks esp on this site will try to wnplay whites any chance they get so unless you get a white person here who actually did time saying whites are weak I wont believe it.
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Postby perongregory » October 7th, 2006, 2:53 am

who said whites are weak? the problem is you constantly pump them up to some shit they aren't, acting like htey boss everybody.
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Postby NICKELS » October 7th, 2006, 4:12 am

Invincible wrote:there were riots recently between whites and Mexicans in San Quentin and other prisons, shows what you know. Anyway Mexicans and to some extent blacks esp on this site will try to wnplay whites any chance they get so unless you get a white person here who actually did time saying whites are weak I wont believe it.


SHOWS WHAT I KNOW hahahahah i just told you in my quote , look you should stay a way from conversations like this or ghetto or prison ...cause obviously you were never locked up and you never was in the streets...just keep making comments and wise cracks..it helps break the tension around here...........okayyyyy and a cute little picture you got there.
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Postby NICKELS » October 7th, 2006, 4:14 am

NICKELS wrote:mexicans run them prisons homie........they got sheer numbers whites cant do sh-t without the eses permission , ( it was a race riot early this year that put everybody on lockdown check up on it ) and the blacks be holding there own even in smaller numbers
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Postby NICKELS » October 7th, 2006, 4:57 am

i love to see blacks sticking together cause it makes motherf--kas scared of the power. they know if we put our mind to anything we can always push it to the next level , thats why they have to keep division amongst us ....
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Postby blue eyed devil » October 7th, 2006, 5:07 am

NICKELS wrote:i love to see blacks sticking together cause it makes motherf--kas scared of the power. they know if we put our mind to anything we can always push it to the next level , thats why they have to keep division amongst us ....


White people with a common cause is power, historys shown that..

But if Blacks start grouping up wouldnt that cause other ethnics/races to group aswell...
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Postby bgcasper » October 7th, 2006, 6:22 am

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NICKELS wrote:i love to see blacks sticking together cause it makes motherf--kas scared of the power. they know if we put our mind to anything we can always push it to the next level , thats why they have to keep division amongst us ....


White people with a common cause is power, historys shown that..

But if Blacks start grouping up wouldnt that cause other ethnics/races to group aswell...
WELL U CAN SAY THAT TO ALL RACES ...LOOK AT WHAT THE VIETNAMESE DID TOGETHER AT UR POWERFULL ARMY AND LOOK AT WHAT THE MONGOL BOUND TOGETHER DID TO THE EURASIAN CONTINENT AND LOOK WHAT NUBIAN AND NORTH AFRICAN DID U CAN STILL SEE THE BUILDINGS ALONG THE NILE FROM EGYPT DOWN TO BLACC AFRICA AND FINALY U DUMMY LOOK WHAT REAL AMERICANS DID CHECC ASTEC INCA TOLTEC AND MAYAN SHIT U PUNK !!!!! LIKE IV SAID ITS NOT A QUESTION OF RACE ITS A QUESTION OF UNITY ....BUT U TOO DUMM TO SEE THRUTH FROM THE FRONT BLINDED BY THE COLOR OF YOUR EYES THINKIN YOUR SUPERIOR BUT WE FROM THE SAME SPECIE WE ALL BLEED RED AND SPERM WHITE
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Postby blue eyed devil » October 7th, 2006, 9:40 am

WELL U CAN SAY THAT TO ALL RACES ...LOOK AT WHAT THE VIETNAMESE DID TOGETHER AT UR POWERFULL ARMY AND LOOK AT WHAT THE MONGOL BOUND TOGETHER DID TO THE EURASIAN CONTINENT AND LOOK WHAT NUBIAN AND NORTH AFRICAN DID U CAN STILL SEE THE BUILDINGS ALONG THE NILE FROM EGYPT DOWN TO black AFRICA AND FINALY U DUMMY LOOK WHAT REAL AMERICANS DID CHECC ASTEC INCA TOLTEC AND MAYAN SHIT U PUNK !!!!! LIKE IV SAID ITS NOT A QUESTION OF RACE ITS A QUESTION OF UNITY ....BUT U TOO DUMM TO SEE THRUTH FROM THE FRONT BLINDED BY THE COLOR OF YOUR EYES THINKIN YOUR SUPERIOR BUT WE FROM THE SAME SPECIE WE ALL BLEED RED AND SPERM WHITE


I know that, it was more directed at Nickels than anyone else..

I never said my race was superior..
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Postby Invincible » October 7th, 2006, 9:59 pm

NICKELS wrote:
NICKELS wrote:mexicans run them prisons homie........they got sheer numbers whites cant do sh-t without the eses permission , ( it was a race riot early this year that put everybody on lockdown check up on it ) and the blacks be holding there own even in smaller numbers


let me guess your Mexican? and have you actually done time to back what you say up? It isnt the numbers that runs the underworld, it is the person or people who have the guts to do what the other person or group doesnt. For instance kill in front of many witnesses and guards without fear of repercussions like the ab has.
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Postby none for you » October 8th, 2006, 8:20 pm

perongregory wrote:
DC wrote:^^^^ Yes they do, every gang in prison pays attention to each other, your another one of these fools who finds it hard to believe that the white race has the hardest prison gang in the US, you are very naive if you think white guys are nothing. Im not blowing anybody up, just stating the facts.


that makes more sense but you acting like everybody scared of the AB, and they all just got they eyes on them, and if they was so strong and all that BS, why they got Eme doin the muscle work for them. Look at a good portion of white crime over histor,y they always have another race doing their dirty work, while you hardly have instances of other races getting whites to do their dirty work. And im not blowin blacks up or anybody but you always tryna blow up some white gang like they are the baddest shit. The only bad white gangs are the governments of the west, they put it down and you can check they g-files.


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Postby none for you » October 8th, 2006, 8:25 pm

blue eyed devil wrote:
WELL U CAN SAY THAT TO ALL RACES ...LOOK AT WHAT THE VIETNAMESE DID TOGETHER AT UR POWERFULL ARMY AND LOOK AT WHAT THE MONGOL BOUND TOGETHER DID TO THE EURASIAN CONTINENT AND LOOK WHAT NUBIAN AND NORTH AFRICAN DID U CAN STILL SEE THE BUILDINGS ALONG THE NILE FROM EGYPT DOWN TO black AFRICA AND FINALY U DUMMY LOOK WHAT REAL AMERICANS DID CHECC ASTEC INCA TOLTEC AND MAYAN SHIT U PUNK !!!!! LIKE IV SAID ITS NOT A QUESTION OF RACE ITS A QUESTION OF UNITY ....BUT U TOO DUMM TO SEE THRUTH FROM THE FRONT BLINDED BY THE COLOR OF YOUR EYES THINKIN YOUR SUPERIOR BUT WE FROM THE SAME SPECIE WE ALL BLEED RED AND SPERM WHITE


I know that, it was more directed at Nickels than anyone else..

I never said my race was superior..


stop saying that... what they want is for you to believe you are inferior... they think they are slick, but what they are is cowards.

anyone that believes in themself and their race itself IS superior, because believing in one's self and origins is INTEGRITY and that is a rare and precious thing.
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Postby none for you » October 8th, 2006, 8:43 pm

hey blakk,
you got wuite a selection of girlfriends there, but did you have to show us your old lady "teddybear"?

most boys your age dont play with dolls....
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Postby BlaKK » October 8th, 2006, 8:46 pm

That aint no 'Teddybear'... That's you, ho.
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