white guys in EME

These concepts are socially constructed and have been given much weight. What are your thoughts?
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white guys in EME

Unread post by MARTINEZ » October 31st, 2006, 5:52 pm

The topic was locked, so I created this one to answer's DC's question:

Quote: "Back to white guys in EME, there have been quiet a few white dudes in the Mexican Mafia over the yaers, Martinez can you shed some light on who and when??

DC...."/
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Check this homie,

I'm positive there have way more Black SOUTH SIDERS /SURENOS than

Whites that have been/are SOUTH SIDERS /SURENOS.

Joseph "Pegleg a.k.a Cocoliso" Morgan grew up in EAST LOS in the old Maravilla projects,

he grew up exclusively with Chicanos and dominated the language. Both Calo (slang) and Spanish.

Everyone who ever knew him, did NOT consider him White, but straight up Chicano

the same way he viewed himself.

By almost all sources, Pegleg was a member of El Hoyo Maravilla, one of EAST LOS oldest Chicano gangs.

Once a made EME member got booked by other EME members in the joint for

making "negative comments" regarding Joe "Pegleg a.k.a Cocoliso" Morgan, then EME godfather.

I can only speculate they had to do with his being "white"....That didn't fly. Dude was stabbed dozens of times over.

Joe Morgan passed away of cancer many years back.

I won't speak on the other active EME member who is white, but same with him.

As far as he and the other Carnales are concerned, He's 100% Chicano.

Also note, the EME has had a Japanese American and a Native American made member back in the days.

Martinez 8)

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Unread post by Christina Marie » October 31st, 2006, 8:00 pm

I locked it because it got off topic. Stay on topic and were cool.

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Unread post by TwoGlockz » November 1st, 2006, 1:48 pm

There is no white guys in la eme to my knowledge but i know their are white racist groups are their allies tho.

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Unread post by MARTINEZ » November 1st, 2006, 5:30 pm

TwoGlockz wrote:There is no white guys in la eme to my knowledge but i know their are white racist groups are their allies tho.
There's one more white vato from the EME.

He's an old timer, too. He's been from the EME for decades.

High Ranking vato.

Enough said....

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Unread post by DC » November 23rd, 2006, 4:47 pm

ok there may be only 1 white EME member, but what about all the white surenos in Los.

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Unread post by IWB Woody » November 27th, 2006, 12:00 am

i was in Corcoran State Prison when the guy who started it died, it was so hush hush they didnt even log it on the daily inmate/death sheet.

but theres no whites in eme

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Unread post by Christina Marie » November 27th, 2006, 12:42 am

DC wrote:ok there may be only 1 white EME member, but what about all the white surenos in Los.
Ya...I know a few white SURS, but I never ran across any whites in EME

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Unread post by Christina Marie » November 27th, 2006, 12:44 am

Check this homie,

I'm positive there have way more Black SOUTH SIDERS /SURENOS than

Whites that have been/are SOUTH SIDERS /SURENOS.
Your high

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Unread post by BlaKK » November 27th, 2006, 12:45 am

Shit, I am.

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Unread post by Christina Marie » November 27th, 2006, 1:00 am

BlaKK wrote:Shit, I am.
LOL....I bet you are. Anyways....back on topic. :wink:

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Unread post by NikexCortez » November 27th, 2006, 1:51 pm

Wasn't there an asian in La Eme?

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Unread post by MARTINEZ » November 27th, 2006, 3:04 pm

NikexCortez wrote:Wasn't there an asian in La Eme?
Yes, Japanese-American, same thing.... Straight up Cholo.

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Unread post by MARTINEZ » November 27th, 2006, 5:26 pm

Christina Marie wrote:
Check this homie,

I'm positive there have way more Black SOUTH SIDERS /SURENOS than

Whites that have been/are SOUTH SIDERS /SURENOS.
Your high
"Your High".... not right now, right now.... but maybe later, later :lol:

There might be more black Sureños from 18th street alone than white

Sureños in the entire L.A. County :wink:

I don't really care iether way since it doesn't have anything to do with my

varrio or the East Los Area,

I'm just spitting facts from a muthafucker who's done years in the system.

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Unread post by Individual » November 27th, 2006, 6:00 pm

the black hand tattoo

is that a sign of made men?

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Unread post by Christina Marie » November 27th, 2006, 8:17 pm

MARTINEZ wrote:
Christina Marie wrote:
Check this homie,

I'm positive there have way more Black SOUTH SIDERS /SURENOS than

Whites that have been/are SOUTH SIDERS /SURENOS.
Your high
"Your High".... not right now, right now.... but maybe later, later :lol:

There might be more black Sureños from 18th street alone than white

Sureños in the entire L.A. County :wink:

I don't really care iether way since it doesn't have anything to do with my

varrio or the East Los Area,

I'm just spitting facts from a muthafucker who's done years in the system.

Martinez
I have never met any black SURS. I have heard of one. ONE. I have never been locked up in a mens prison so I cannot speak on that angle.

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Unread post by SniperSVD » November 27th, 2006, 8:26 pm

Christina Marie wrote:
MARTINEZ wrote:
Christina Marie wrote:
Check this homie,

I'm positive there have way more Black SOUTH SIDERS /SURENOS than

Whites that have been/are SOUTH SIDERS /SURENOS.
Your high
"Your High".... not right now, right now.... but maybe later, later :lol:

There might be more black Sureños from 18th street alone than white

Sureños in the entire L.A. County :wink:

I don't really care iether way since it doesn't have anything to do with my

varrio or the East Los Area,

I'm just spitting facts from a muthafucker who's done years in the system.

Martinez
I have never met any black SURS. I have heard of one. ONE. I have never been locked up in a mens prison so I cannot speak on that angle.
there is black latin kings out here,

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Unread post by StillNoScript » November 28th, 2006, 12:03 am

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"Albert and Steve remove grass from Albert's truck. Steve was a member of the first generation of the Evergreen gang, which was named the Evergreen Dukes. Both men have sons in the Evergreen gang. Albert grew up in Reynosa, a Mecian border town. "Most of my childhood I spent with my father in his truck." A roofer by trade, Albert came to Los Angeles as a teenager. He has had four children with Patsy, including Mark, 12, a gang member. When Mark was 5, Patsy one tried to put their son in the oven when she was smoking PCP and "became out of control." Albert has been hooked on heroin for a decade and long for Patsy to give up PCP. "I would go back to her just to have a family again.'"

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WARNING...

There is a disturbing picture of somebody who'd just been shot in the link above. Just a heads up. I didn't notice it at first before I made the post. Just didn't want anyone to be taken aback by it if they decided to view the link.

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Unread post by BlaKK » November 28th, 2006, 12:49 am

Aint gotta warn nobody...

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Unread post by StillNoScript » November 29th, 2006, 2:16 am

BlaKK wrote:Aint gotta warn nobody...
Different people are used to seeing different things.

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Unread post by DC » November 29th, 2006, 10:24 pm

The bottomline is EME has had a white leader and there are loads of
white Surs running around LA, I have also heard of hispanic NLR members.

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Unread post by perongregory » November 29th, 2006, 11:24 pm

why is this so important to you?

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Unread post by MARTINEZ » November 30th, 2006, 10:06 am

perongregory wrote:why is this so important to you?
Exactly.

What's your point, DC ?

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Unread post by DC » December 5th, 2006, 12:49 am

its like certain people on this board are trying to hide this fact, everyone on this board is anti-white, but people need to understand that there is a connection on the streets and behind bars between whites and mexicans.

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Unread post by BlaKK » December 5th, 2006, 1:55 am

but people need to understand that there is a connection on the streets and behind bars between whites and mexicans.

Thats already known. those who dont know don't need to.

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Unread post by DC » December 15th, 2006, 6:43 am

some fools just dont want to admit that the connection exists and is still very strong.

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Unread post by Silencioso » December 20th, 2006, 3:07 pm

I think there's more white Sur than black Sur. It depends on what part of LA County your in obviously, but most non Latino cholos I've seen lately have been white, Filipino, Samoan or pretty much anything other than black.

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Unread post by DC » December 20th, 2006, 5:52 pm

where abouts in LA County are you Silencioso.

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Unread post by Silencioso » December 21st, 2006, 3:05 pm

West Los.

Non Chicano cholos in this area are either non-Mexican Latinos or whites. There was even an East Indian kid from Sotel back in the day - Sabu. There was a black Cuban from Sotel back in the 80's called Negro, he was the leader of Sotel for a while. That's the only black Sureno I can recall around here.

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Unread post by DC » December 21st, 2006, 9:59 pm

Look a Venice 13, how many white dudes do they have, also look at TVR lots of white cholos.

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Unread post by Saamir_Red_Fam » December 25th, 2006, 11:53 am

ever seen that movie american me....it was based on a true story, about the beginnings of la eme..in a california prison..and they had a white dude...

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Unread post by Christina Marie » December 25th, 2006, 7:33 pm

I am going out with a white guy from Florencia

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