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These concepts are socially constructed and have been given much weight. What are your thoughts?

Postby johnnny » January 19th, 2007, 10:40 pm

i know what whites have done to blacks in america, im canadien so ill say it again do you hate me cause im white?
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Postby madmiddle » January 19th, 2007, 10:40 pm

:twisted: ''Im not evil!''
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Postby frozen fire » January 19th, 2007, 10:41 pm

i dont think you will get a straight answer.
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Postby johnnny » January 19th, 2007, 10:43 pm

frozen fire wrote:i dont think you will get a straight answer.


exactly iam not part of that problem but he chooses to make me part of the problem, like i said the hatred is the same, his hatred has no boundaries, can anyone see what im trying to get at
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Postby frozen fire » January 19th, 2007, 10:50 pm

^^ yes, but there is not much you can do about it.
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Postby johnnny » January 19th, 2007, 10:51 pm

frozen fire wrote:^^ yes, but there is not much you can do about it.


exactly the devil is affecting all of us now, the lord says he works in mysterious ways, and if this is the case humanity is doomed
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Postby se11 » January 19th, 2007, 11:33 pm

johnnny wrote:i know what whites have done to blacks in america, im canadien so ill say it again do you hate me cause im white?


if your european, your people somewhere have probably held african slaves at one point or another.
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Postby johnnny » January 19th, 2007, 11:34 pm

se11 wrote:
johnnny wrote:i know what whites have done to blacks in america, im canadien so ill say it again do you hate me cause im white?


if your european, your people somewhere have probably held african slaves at one point or another.


slavery is been around a long time, i think everyone has a way back ancestor that did something....
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Postby perongregory » January 19th, 2007, 11:41 pm

Slavery was just the springboard for the continual abuses of blacks in this country. It was major and still plays apart in the difficulties blacks face today, that is why it will not be gotten over cuz there was no closure for slavery. If Jim Crow hadn't come, and lynchings, and city burnings, and murders, rapes, ghettos, bad schools, assasination of vocal black leaders, medical experiments, drugs in the community helped by the CIA, and the countless other atrocities that followed slavery, this shit wouldn't be a problem. It would be, whites were fucked up, they did some fucked up shit, and now everyone is truly equal, and we kickin it as Americans. But no, it was slavery has been outlawed because it doesn't benefit some whites immediately, and those whites are willing to kill other whites over that, but hey, you guys are still niggers, lets find a new way to fuck yall.
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Postby frozen fire » January 19th, 2007, 11:44 pm

and now everyone is truly equal

i would really like to believe that.
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Postby perongregory » January 19th, 2007, 11:49 pm

frozen fire wrote:
and now everyone is truly equal

i would really like to believe that.


I was posin a hypothetical, of course shit is not equal, it wasn never meant to be in this society. One of the reasons for this is because America is the first country that was dedicated to being a "free society", and viewing all men as equal, which we see didn't manifest.
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Postby frozen fire » January 20th, 2007, 12:23 am

I was posin a hypothetical, of course shit is not equal, it wasn never meant to be in this society.

I agree
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Postby Black Top » January 20th, 2007, 8:58 am

perongregory wrote:Slavery was just the springboard for the continual abuses of blacks in this country. It was major and still plays apart in the difficulties blacks face today, that is why it will not be gotten over because there was no closure for slavery. If Jim Crow hadn't come, and lynchings, and city burnings, and murders, rapes, ghettos, bad schools, assasination of vocal black leaders, medical experiments, drugs in the community helped by the CIA, and the countless other atrocities that followed slavery.


that's why i saw how can we forget? look at all the shit that happened after slavery. good post!
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Postby 'X' » January 20th, 2007, 9:13 am

perongregory wrote:Slavery was just the springboard for the continual abuses of blacks in this country. It was major and still plays apart in the difficulties blacks face today, that is why it will not be gotten over because there was no closure for slavery. If Jim Crow hadn't come, and lynchings, and city burnings, and murders, rapes, ghettos, bad schools, assasination of vocal black leaders, medical experiments, drugs in the community helped by the CIA, and the countless other atrocities that followed slavery, this shit wouldn't be a problem. It would be, whites were #%@& up, they did some #%@& up shit, and now everyone is truly equal, and we kickin it as Americans. But no, it was slavery has been outlawed because it doesn't benefit some whites immediately, and those whites are willing to kill other whites over that, but hey, you guys are still niggers, lets find a new way to fu-- yall.


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Postby Black Top » January 20th, 2007, 9:17 am

Black Top wrote:
perongregory wrote:Slavery was just the springboard for the continual abuses of blacks in this country. It was major and still plays apart in the difficulties blacks face today, that is why it will not be gotten over because there was no closure for slavery. If Jim Crow hadn't come, and lynchings, and city burnings, and murders, rapes, ghettos, bad schools, assasination of vocal black leaders, medical experiments, drugs in the community helped by the CIA, and the countless other atrocities that followed slavery.


that's why i saw how can we forget? look at all the shit that happened after slavery. good post!
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Postby johnnny » January 20th, 2007, 9:40 am

perongregory wrote:Slavery was just the springboard for the continual abuses of blacks in this country. It was major and still plays apart in the difficulties blacks face today, that is why it will not be gotten over because there was no closure for slavery. If Jim Crow hadn't come, and lynchings, and city burnings, and murders, rapes, ghettos, bad schools, assasination of vocal black leaders, medical experiments, drugs in the community helped by the CIA, and the countless other atrocities that followed slavery.



Exactly in Amerikkka
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Postby se11 » January 20th, 2007, 9:54 am

has anyone noticed that blacks who dont succede feel that slavery has destroyed their life and held them down, yet successful black people dont?
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Postby frozen fire » January 20th, 2007, 10:03 am

^^^ it didn't stop at slavery.

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perongregory wrote:Slavery was just the springboard for the continual abuses of blacks in this country. It was major and still plays apart in the difficulties blacks face today, that is why it will not be gotten over because there was no closure for slavery. If Jim Crow hadn't come, and lynchings, and city burnings, and murders, rapes, ghettos, bad schools, assasination of vocal black leaders, medical experiments, drugs in the community helped by the CIA, and the countless other atrocities that followed slavery.


that's why i saw how can we forget? look at all the shit that happened after slavery. good post!
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Postby madmiddle » January 20th, 2007, 10:11 am

The battle continues to rage between economists, politicians, immigrants' rights activists, and black anti-immigration activists over whether illegal immigrants are the major cause of double-digit joblessness among poor, unskilled young black males.

The battle lines are so tight that black anti-immigration activists have planned a march for jobs for American-born blacks on April 28 in Los Angeles. This is a direct counter to the planned mass action on May 1st by immigrants' rights groups.

According to Labor Department reports, nearly forty percent of young black males are unemployed. Despite the Bush administration's boast that its tax cut and economic policies has resulted in the creation of more than 100,000 new jobs, black unemployment still remains the highest of any group in America. Black male unemployment for the past decade has been nearly double that of white males.

But several years before the immigration combatants squared off, then-University of Wisconsin graduate researcher Devah Pager pointed the finger in another direction -- a direction that makes most employers squirm. That's the persistent and deep racial discrimination in the workplace. Pager found that black men without a criminal record are less likely to find a job than white men with criminal records

Pager's finger-point at discrimination as the main reason for the racial hiring disparity set off a howl of protest from employers, trade groups, and even a Nobel Prize winner. They lambasted her for faulty research. They said her sample was much too small, and the questions too vague. They pointed to the ocean of state and federal laws that ban racial discrimination.

But in 2005, Pager, now a sociologist at Princeton, duplicated her study. She surveyed nearly 1,500 private employers in New York City. She used teams of black and white testers, standardized resumes, and she followed up their visits with telephone interviews with employers. These are the standard methods researchers use to test racial discrimination.

The results were exactly the same as in her earlier study. Black men with no criminal records were no more likely to find work than white men with criminal records. That's true despite the fact that New York has some of the nation's toughest laws against job discrimination.

Dumping the blame for the chronic job crisis of young, poor black men on illegal immigration stokes the hysteria of immigration reform opponents, but it also lets employers off the hook for discrimination. And it's easy to see how that could happen. The mountain of federal and state anti discrimination laws, affirmative action programs, and successful employment discrimination lawsuits gives the public impression that job discrimination is a relic of a shameful, and bigoted racial past.

But that isn't the case, and Pager's study is hardly isolated proof of that. Countless research studies, the Urban League's annual State of Black America report, a 2005 Human Rights Watch report, and the numerous EEOC practice discrimination complaints over the past decade reveal that employers have devised endless dodges to evade anti-discrimination laws. That includes rejecting applicants by their names, areas of the city they live in, and claims of mistaken advertising (that the jobs advertised were filled).

In a comprehensive seven-month university study of the hiring practices of hundreds of Chicago-area employers (a few years before Pager's graduate study), many top company officials said they would not hire blacks. When asked to assess the work ethic of white, black and Latino employees by race, nearly forty percent of the employers ranked blacks dead last.

The employers routinely described blacks as "unskilled," "uneducated," "illiterate." "dishonest," "lacked initiative," "unmotivated," "involved with gangs and drugs," "did not understand work," "unstable," "lacked charm," "had no family values," and were "poor role models."

The consensus among these employers was that blacks brought their alleged pathologies to the work place, and were to be avoided at all costs. The researchers found that black business owners shared many of the same negative attitudes.

Other surveys have found that a substantial number of non-white business owners also refuse to hire blacks. Their bias effectively closed out another area of employment to thousands of blacks, solely based on their color.

This only tells part of the sorry job picture for many poor blacks. The Congressional Black Caucus reports that at least half of all unemployed black workers have been out of work for nearly a year or more. Many more have given up looking for work. The Census does not count them among the unemployed.

The dreary job picture for the unskilled and marginally skilled urban poor, especially the black poor, is compounded by the racially skewed attitudes of small and large employers. Even if there was not a single illegal immigrant in America, that attitude insures that black job seekers would still be just as poor and unemployed.
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Postby johnnny » January 20th, 2007, 10:12 am

^-- see in america, so again fuck you if you think im american
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Postby frozen fire » January 20th, 2007, 10:14 am

Canada is pretty close to america.... :lol:
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Postby johnnny » January 20th, 2007, 10:15 am

In canada especially in ontario our government is making an attempt o hire alot of foriegn doctors
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Postby frozen fire » January 20th, 2007, 10:16 am

frozen fire wrote:Canada is pretty close to america.... :lol:


^^ that was a joke...Nevermind.
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Postby johnnny » January 20th, 2007, 10:16 am

frozen fire wrote:Canada is pretty close to america.... :lol:


it is VERY close canada was spawned from britian the same as the US, austraila and new zealand. My country has racism too, just liek every other country.

Most of the racial hatred here has been spawned from amerikkka, just like everything we get from america
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Postby johnnny » January 20th, 2007, 10:19 am

im over arguing it, i know im not racistand im going to continue to do what i do to make things right, even if thats on the person to person level only..

and madmiddle you can suck a dick, along with mohammad ali if you think im the devil
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Postby frozen fire » January 20th, 2007, 10:19 am

Anyone know the actual percentage of minorities in the USA?
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Postby madmiddle » January 20th, 2007, 11:03 am

frozen fire wrote:Anyone know the actual percentage of minorities in the USA?


about 30%
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Postby frozen fire » January 20th, 2007, 11:05 am

Thats alot.
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Postby johnnny » January 20th, 2007, 11:09 am

most of everbody is mixed in america, i read somewhere that america isnt getting blacker or whiter but in fact browner.

By 2050 white will have been made into a pluralty
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Postby frozen fire » January 20th, 2007, 11:17 am

^^^ Will this make any difference to racism?? what you guys think?
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Postby johnnny » January 20th, 2007, 11:20 am

no, america is a multiculturism nation with too many cultures
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Postby frozen fire » January 20th, 2007, 11:23 am

Even though then most will not be purely white nor black, if everyone is almost mixed, how can they mock one another?
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