Where is heaven?

king phoenix · Unread post by **king phoenix** » April 9th, 2007, 11:01 am

You know, the older i get the more cynical i get! and this thought just popped into my head. If there is a heaven, where is it? is it in the clouds? becuase if it is then why dont airplanes ever crash into it? if it is in the clouds, then how can the moon be further away? or is it in space? if so then it must be really cold and or hot! and if it is in space how do we get there when we die? does god send a trolley to pick up souls? or do we drift through space until we get there? i dont know, personally this is starting to sound like a fairy tale! but im sure some will disagree!

Unread post by **Lonewolf** » April 9th, 2007, 11:55 am

Some would say that Heaven is the House of GOD or the Kingdom of GOD.
And GOD is SPIRIT, therefore heaven is a spiritual realm. Like the LORD
said to his diciples, the Kingdom of GOD is at hand ~~> the kingdom is here
within us, in our hearts and in our minds; heaven waits upon our soul to be
freed from this wordly body trapped in the physical realm.

Unread post by **~J~** » June 7th, 2007, 5:43 pm

Yeah, I've to get to some talking with a Jehovah Witness Friend about this. although, no one can say for sure. Heaven is Jehovah's Domain where Jesus and the Angels reside in. It's seem that very few of us will get a one way to paradise, not to worry if you world doesn't end most of us will get a 1000 years to proof your rightous, from what I've been told.

Unread post by **Lonewolf** » June 8th, 2007, 10:26 am

You, I think the Mormons beleive something like heaven is reserved for only something like 200,000 of the Human Saints, and the rest of the saves souls would not reside in Heaven but in the stars. They will be like semi-gods creating others worlds and expanding the Kingdom through out the universe.

Unread post by **Old Shatterhand** » June 8th, 2007, 4:43 pm

You can begin answering your own question by learning about an area of physics known as extra-dimensionality. An obvious theological implication from string theory (which incorporates extra-dimensionality) is that the Creator of the cosmos must have the capacity to operate in at least as many dimensions as are needed to explain the existence of the cosmos--plus one with the upper limit being near infinite. Heaven (and Hell) exist outside of the four dimensions (Time, Length, Width, height), which do exist, that you currently interact with in your physical body.

kING T · Unread post by **kING T** » June 8th, 2007, 5:05 pm

This is real Talk: I have never read this much STUPIDITY on a forum, ever! The combined IQ score of about half of you fools is about 27!

Unread post by **~J~** » June 8th, 2007, 5:11 pm

^ Who are you talking about exactly?

kING T · Unread post by **kING T** » June 8th, 2007, 8:33 pm

The person who started this thread.

Unread post by **~J~** » June 8th, 2007, 10:11 pm

Old Shatterhand wrote:You can begin answering your own question by learning about an area of physics known as extra-dimensionality. An obvious theological implication from string theory (which incorporates extra-dimensionality) is that the Creator of the cosmos must have the capacity to operate in at least as many dimensions as are needed to explain the existence of the cosmos--plus one with the upper limit being near infinite. Heaven (and Hell) exist outside of the four dimensions (Time, Length, Width, height), which do exist, that you currently interact with in your physical body.

What? you can't be serious...

Unread post by **~J~** » June 8th, 2007, 11:02 pm

Lonewolf wrote:Some would say that Heaven is the House of GOD or the Kingdom of GOD.
And GOD is SPIRIT, therefore heaven is a spiritual realm. Like the LORD
said to his diciples, the Kingdom of GOD is at hand ~~> the kingdom is here
within us, in our hearts and in our minds; heaven waits upon our soul to be
freed from this wordly body trapped in the physical realm.

The Kingdom of God is the World Goverment in the hands of Jesus Christ.

Unread post by **Christina Marie** » June 9th, 2007, 12:20 am

Heaven is a spiritual place, In Gods kingdom. Your God.....my God? Who knows what is what right or wrong or what is the right thing to believe. I know what I know and believe and I will tell nobody that what they believe is wrong. Heaven is what you make of it.

Unread post by **Lonewolf** » June 9th, 2007, 11:42 am

Errr . . . you're wrong

Unread post by **~J~** » June 10th, 2007, 10:41 pm

Christina Marie wrote:Heaven is a spiritual place, In Gods kingdom. Your God.....my God? Who knows what is what right or wrong or what is the right thing to believe. I know what I know and believe and I will tell nobody that what they believe is wrong. Heaven is what you make of it.

I apperciate your openness but there can only be one correct answer, this is how Heaven is put: "God resides in heaven along with millions of spirit creatures called angels"

Unread post by **Noog** » June 11th, 2007, 4:57 am

The Lord's Prayer....."...Thy Kingdom come...." The Kingdom as in Heaven, God's Kingdom is here on earth - a place of social justice, peace, community, equality, real love. We have a responsibility top build the Kingdom. Its notlike those evangelical foolios say, some far off place when you die, its for here on earth...as is hell.

Read some Leonardo Boff, Liberation Theologian

justice league · Unread post by **justice league** » June 13th, 2007, 10:47 pm

the only believable explanation I have heard of heaven and hell is the CSLewis book, the Great Divorce

if you havent read it,,,, its worth the effort.... short and sweet and very much to the point

Unread post by **'X'** » June 14th, 2007, 6:37 am

kING T wrote:This is real Talk: I have never read this much STUPIDITY on a forum, ever!

lol...

Unread post by **Y.G.** » June 14th, 2007, 7:12 am

~J~ wrote:Yeah, I've to get to some talking with a Jehovah Witness Friend about this. although, no one can say for sure. Heaven is Jehovah's Domain where Jesus and the Angels reside in. It's seem that very few of us will get a one way to paradise, not to worry if you world doesn't end most of us will get a 1000 years to proof your rightous, from what I've been told.

YEAH JEHOVAH WITNESS BELIEVE THAT CORRECT?

Unread post by **Y.G.** » June 14th, 2007, 7:15 am

kING T wrote:This is real Talk: I have never read this much STUPIDITY on a forum, ever! The combined IQ score of about half of you fools is about 27!

NOBODY TOLD YOU THAT YOU HAD TO POST HERE! IF THE THREAD IS DUMB DON'T POST THEN.

Unread post by **Sentenza** » June 14th, 2007, 7:26 am

Y.G. wrote:
~J~ wrote:Yeah, I've to get to some talking with a Jehovah Witness Friend about this. although, no one can say for sure. Heaven is Jehovah's Domain where Jesus and the Angels reside in. It's seem that very few of us will get a one way to paradise, not to worry if you world doesn't end most of us will get a 1000 years to proof your rightous, from what I've been told.

YEAH JEHOVAH WITNESS BELIEVE THAT CORRECT?

Yep. Sounds kind of stupid to me though.

wikipedia wrote: It is also taught that 144,000 people will receive immortal life in heaven with Jesus Christ as co-rulers guiding the rest of mankind to perfection on a paradise earth during the 1000 year reign.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah%27s_Witnesses

Unread post by **Christina Marie** » June 14th, 2007, 12:12 pm

Lonewolf wrote:Errr . . . you're wrong

I AM NEVER WRONG!!!!!!

Unread post by **flame_guards_member1** » June 19th, 2007, 6:22 am

Heaven is in the clouds above in another realm, as depicted in the bible...

Unread post by **Noog** » June 19th, 2007, 7:10 am

Nah man, its in (or not), the human heart. the space between spaces, a place called love.

JelisLust · Unread post by **JelisLust** » June 24th, 2007, 7:44 am

kING T wrote:This is real Talk: I have never read this much STUPIDITY on a forum, ever! The combined IQ score of about half of you fools is about 27!

Because religion as a whole is a fact, not a belief. :roll:

Unread post by **Lonewolf** » June 24th, 2007, 4:56 pm

IMAGINE THIS . . .

THE MOST PERFECT OF ALL ANGELS . . .

HE SEES THAT HE CAN DO AND BE GREAT AMONGST . . .

BEGINS TO GROW THE BIGGEST OF ALL EGOS . . .

HE BEGINS TO BELEIVE THAT HE CAN BE GOD . . .

HE CAN DO MOST ANYTHING . . .

DON'T NO OTHER BEING COMPARES HE CLAIMS . . .

HE CAN DO AND UN-DO . . .

HE'S A LEADER OF MYRIADS . . .

HE GOES AND COMES TO AND FRO . . .

HE SEES ALL THAT IS CREATED . . .

AND HE HAS KNOWLEDGE . . .

A MOST PERFECT "ANGEL" BEING . . .

THEN HIS HEART GROWS BIGGER THAN HIS MIND . . .

HE CHALLENGES GOD . . .

HE'S PUNISHED & VANISHED . . .

THROWN DOWN INTO THE ABYSS . . .

INTO THE BLACK HOLE . . .

INTO THE NEDERLANDS . . .

AWAY FROM THE LIGHT . . .

AND INTO THE DARKNESS . . .

BUT HE ALREADY HAD BECOME A CANCER . . .

HE INFECTED MANY . . .

AND THEY ARE CAST AWAY WITH HIM . . .

BUT SOME HOPE REMAINS . . .

IN THE GOODNESS OF GOD'S HEART . . .

THERE EXIST "SALVATION" . . .

A WAY TO REDEEM THE FALLEN ONES . . .

A WAY TO PROBE AND TEST . . .

SEE WHICH WILL REPENT . . .

THEY'RE SHOWNED LOVE . . .

THEY'RE SHOWN MERCY . . .

THEY'RE SHOWN THE WAY . . .

A TEST OF SORT . . .

A MEASURING TO SEE . . .

WHO TRULY HAS RECOGNIZED . . .

WHO TRULY ACKNOWLEDGES . . .

WHO TRULY REPENTS . . .

THESE NOW MUST GO THRU A TRIAL . . .

A TRIBULATION TO ENDURE . . .

A RITE OF PASSAGE . . .

THEY MUST NOW PASS THE GAUNTLET . . .

A GAUNTLET CALLED "LIFE" . . .

AND FOR THOSE THAT ENDURE . . .

FOR THOSE WHO GAIN THE WISDOM . . .

FOR THOSE WHO REGAIN LOVE INTO THEIR HEARTS . . .

THOSE IN WHOSE JUSTICE STILL PREVAILS . . .

THEN THOSE RE-GAIN ENTRY . . .

ENTRY INTO GOD'S KINGDOM . . .

INTO GOD'S PEACE . . .

THAT PEACE CALLED "HEAVEN" !!!

Unread post by **~J~** » August 2nd, 2007, 10:34 pm

Lonewolf wrote:IMAGINE THIS . . .

THE MOST PERFECT OF ALL ANGELS . . .

HE SEES THAT HE CAN DO AND BE GREAT AMONGST . . .

BEGINS TO GROW THE BIGGEST OF ALL EGOS . . .

HE BEGINS TO BELEIVE THAT HE CAN BE GOD . . .

HE CAN DO MOST ANYTHING . . .

DON'T NO OTHER BEING COMPARES HE CLAIMS . . .

HE CAN DO AND UN-DO . . .

HE'S A LEADER OF MYRIADS . . .

HE GOES AND COMES TO AND FRO . . .

HE SEES ALL THAT IS CREATED . . .

AND HE HAS KNOWLEDGE . . .

A MOST PERFECT "ANGEL" BEING . . .

THEN HIS HEART GROWS BIGGER THAN HIS MIND . . .

HE CHALLENGES GOD . . .

HE'S PUNISHED & VANISHED . . .

THROWN DOWN INTO THE ABYSS . . .

INTO THE BLACK HOLE . . .

INTO THE NEDERLANDS . . .

AWAY FROM THE LIGHT . . .

AND INTO THE DARKNESS . . .

BUT HE ALREADY HAD BECOME A CANCER . . .

HE INFECTED MANY . . .

AND THEY ARE CAST AWAY WITH HIM . . .

Satan...

Unread post by **~J~** » August 3rd, 2007, 10:23 am

^ I mean the description of the words...

Unread post by **~J~** » August 3rd, 2007, 10:27 am

Sentenza wrote:
Y.G. wrote:
~J~ wrote:Yeah, I've to get to some talking with a Jehovah Witness Friend about this. although, no one can say for sure. Heaven is Jehovah's Domain where Jesus and the Angels reside in. It's seem that very few of us will get a one way to paradise, not to worry if you world doesn't end most of us will get a 1000 years to proof your rightous, from what I've been told.

YEAH JEHOVAH WITNESS BELIEVE THAT CORRECT?
Yep. Sounds kind of stupid to me though.

wikipedia wrote: It is also taught that 144,000 people will receive immortal life in heaven with Jesus Christ as co-rulers guiding the rest of mankind to perfection on a paradise earth during the 1000 year reign.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah%27s_Witnesses

What sounds dumb and why?

Unread post by **Sentenza** » August 3rd, 2007, 10:42 am

~J~ wrote:
Sentenza wrote:
Y.G. wrote:
~J~ wrote:Yeah, I've to get to some talking with a Jehovah Witness Friend about this. although, no one can say for sure. Heaven is Jehovah's Domain where Jesus and the Angels reside in. It's seem that very few of us will get a one way to paradise, not to worry if you world doesn't end most of us will get a 1000 years to proof your rightous, from what I've been told.

YEAH JEHOVAH WITNESS BELIEVE THAT CORRECT?
Yep. Sounds kind of stupid to me though.

wikipedia wrote: It is also taught that 144,000 people will receive immortal life in heaven with Jesus Christ as co-rulers guiding the rest of mankind to perfection on a paradise earth during the 1000 year reign.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah%27s_Witnesses
What sounds dumb and why?

How did they think of the number 144,000 and i am pretty sure that all these places are already occupied, considering that billions of humans have already lived. So where are we all going to go? Nowhere? Hell?

Unread post by **Lonewolf** » August 3rd, 2007, 2:43 pm

12,000 from each of the 12 tribes of Israel = 144,000

Unread post by **KINGFEAR62** » August 18th, 2007, 10:01 am

Heaven is far away from mexico lol

Unread post by **Sentenza** » August 19th, 2007, 4:15 am

Lonewolf wrote:12,000 from each of the 12 tribes of Israel = 144,000

Oh ok, thanks.....

afzdtof · Unread post by **afzdtof** » November 19th, 2007, 10:33 pm

Sydney Royal botanical gardens.
Now how great's the scenic views there.

That truly is heaven.