Tre wrote:Mayuga talks about the Aztecs and Mayans as being a part of pre-hispanic culture. We’ll Mayans pictured themselves as both black and white on their pottery... just check out the black man with his spear and leopard skin to the far right!~J~ wrote:I'm sorry but the video doesn't support this comment other then to talk about Blacks being in Mexico which is common knowledge. you seem to be dismissing all it is unique to us. it is fair to say that Blacks have influenced aspects of Chicano culture and Mexican culture to a lesser extent but as a whole it's far away from being "fused"!Tre wrote:I asked Mayuga earlier why African American parents aren’t up in arms, complaining about black youth appropriating (dominating) aspects of Chicano culture! The reason for this is because blacks don’t see Chicano culture as a threat. The Chicano culture has its roots in African culture. Their culture is so fused with the African its ridiculous!!! When I view Chicano/Mexican culture I can see the stamp, the handprint other blacks= Africans have left.
Since black African populations are the oldest and modern humans first evolved and migrated out of Africa, when you see dark skinned people and light skinned people occupying similar latitudes with similar levels of solar UV radiation. The standard explanation is that the lighter skinned people are newcomers. Hence, natural selection has not had enough time to darken their skin.
TRE - what exactly are you insinuating? We know that AFRICA is the birthplace of man, But to say that all men are descendants of what is now AFRICANS? Their are (3) primary racial groups , with all other races being a mixture of a combination of the 3. I would say that by a simple look at our genetics and even the look of my people without the SPANIARD mix , you can see clearly that we are descendants of the ASIATIC race. Just as surely as the NATIVE AMERICANS are identical to the peoples of MONGOLIA, we are descendants of southern migrating NATIVE AMERICANS and at the Southern Tip of SOUTH AMERICA, the latin people there are descendants of traveling and trading peoples of the Middle East and Asia. TRE in reality we are as far away as possible from AFRICANS --no doubt that there were AFricans in Mexico, but to say they were there in numbers? or that PRE-HISPANIC Mexico contained tons of African culture? Just take a look at our artwork, our look and you'll see ASIA all thru it . Back to what we were discussing though..........I just saw a video from TI and JEEZY and their style of tattoing is 100% chicano, how can you deny that? JEEZY entire look is chicano.....just go back 10 years and youll see that NO BROTHA, EVER EVER EVER got that style of tattoing or had that style that is so prevelant in rap. Oustside the Southwest we are a non-issue, but what we do here is hard knocking and trend setting. Even the rappers that are sporting typical black gear have the tattoos that are so symbolic of what LA chicanoism is! I can see and say that IMITATION is the the highest form of flattery , but to seriously get something so unique to my people> to were your people look identical to mine? The entire world sees Blacks on TV and thinks "DAM THATS COOL" , but in reality you gusy STOLE your look from us ! and thats why chicanos are up in arms and upset and calling your people haters cuz your people took shit that is ours without blinking and then turned around and said you invented it, LA blacks gave all blacks a look, they bootlegged from chicanos. You got mexican rappers like niteowl and SPM and Lucky Luciano , and although they may TRY to infuse their culture into their LYRICS no doubt the MELODY, SOUND and PERSONA of it are black-american. Just like what your people are doing but in a larger and bigger way. Cuz I have heard that their are mexicans saying they invented rap but does anyone even take them seriously?? NOW when your people get up on that stage and STEAL our ENTIRE look claims of ownership are dismissed outright cuz your people are on TV..........! But to the home and originator of it, the truth is known. Here we are arguing the origins of gang culture in LA , when your people number 500k here, and are the minority. Yet despite this nothing that resembles the style and look of LAs Crips and Bloods , in any other black city? ALTHOUGH your people number up to 40% of LOUISANA and 3 million plus blacks in the city of NYC? man isnt it obvious what happened and that your people TOOK , most of what they have from us? and via LAs blacks ---proxy mexicans, showed the entire black culture of LA something unique to US(chicanos).......just like homie spomino, and vanilla ice and that stupid mexican park LOOK phony , biters and fake thats how your LIL WAYNE AND JEEZY AND TUPAC AND EVERY other rapper looks to people who know waz up. Mexicans who grew up with our own look and style, and had nothing to do with blacks. Our gangs are pushing 100 years in this city. They are still here --today. I dont get you. PAY HOMAGE WHERE ITS DUE, OR QUIT stealing our shit, our look.