MENACE18 wrote:mayugastank wrote:MENACE18 wrote:ese ur trippen,we dont give a fu-- bout sur homie,18 is 18,we ride alone aint no get a long gangs
where you getting that from ?? where do you ride alone? the pen? county ? were ? besides the juvenile? aint no where 18 is not riding with surenos........you got quite a few members that are hooked up big time with SUR politics , and they definetly arent talking about F* sur .........your either a new booty or some out of touch fool because I know most your homies had to have told you about what happened to your hood in 2003 when your varrio got greenlit, a gang of soldados from 18 Pcd up because they were getting mopped up , a few stayed solid but most went leva and theirs gangs of them fools in PC yards all over SOCAL. Any idea your varrio had about splitting away from the SOuth was put to rest in 2003. Your homeys caught the blues, gave in and started getting in line , dont play that F**K sur on the net shit because your homies would never dare say so in the county/pen........your big mouth would get checked quick , alot downer fools then youd think couldnt hang with the LIGHT . Mobs of your homies locked in and over shit like what you saying. Your little ideas of 18 going on their on were squashed way back and now you just another gang ,big and deep but you still abide by all gang laws for all SIDERS in LOS. DOnt get it twisted LOKO. Just because you got numbers dont mean you dont pay dues or your gonna do your own thing -ALL 18 street clicks are SURENOS. At least when they get locked up and if a Vato from EFE13 running things your gonna PAY ATTENTION , no matter if that vato is an enemiga or not LOKO. So you got alot to learn and if you ever said F**K Sur in LOS CONDADOS , youd be THRU WITH $$$.
we got homies that are down with sur but some homies dont give a fu-- bout it and dont be backin up any surenos except 18strs,and nah to us when we hit the pen we aint surenos still,we didnt wait for la eme to say we were a varrio and all that and give us a 13,we started off not bein a sureno hood and thats how the commandments say,if some homies aint following that they may be respected by sureno hoods but by homies they wont get respect because theyre representing sumthing the ogs never cared bout and we were never a part of,and ive heard of us gettin greenlighted but that was in the 90s because we had blacks in our varrio,i dont know were ur gettin ur shit from but i got boys who in the pen and they just roll with homies from 18,theyre some varrios that were cool with like pico nuevo,quiet village,whittier 13,silverlake,evergreen,but nah ive never heard of any homies bein lil women in the pen to la eme
and watchu mean we aint got no ounce of respect,tell me this since u act like la eme is god,if theyre so powerful and all that shit how come they cudnt taken out opal st,maravillas,all them nortenos in state,all the bulldogs,how come they cant unite all the sureno hoods,if they control them theyre shudnt be a problem,theyre still gonna be makin money and they gonna be gettin more if the sureno hoods started focusing on other types of gangs,and they took out a biker gang thats still out there and still has vatos from varrios ridin for them,theyre maybe a few hundred,lets see la eme try taken a shot at hells angeles,the ab,they wont
and nah ogs wouldnt let a vato from another varrio give us orders,no matter what la eme says u gotta let the homies earn theyre shit,look at it this way,18strs are leaders in la eme and other high ranking members,ms who claims sur 13 and all that shit and say sureno,dont have any1 part of la eme,why because they havent earned it,any hood with a member whos a high ranking eme or has more members part of la eme get respected more because thats proves theyre down,avenues are down but alot gettin locked up,florencia use to be all bout theyre barrio,they talk that nigga killa shit on the net but they surrounded by all these black hoods and dont say shit,big hazard had alot of respect
YOU DONT KNOW SHIT LOKO...........That Biker gang***LOST grip a soldiers they tried to kill anyone in their own gang jsut to get off the green light list............they changed their leadership so they wouldnt get messed up anymore. They voted anyone out that was crossing the MM, and now they pay taxes and are like bitches, just like your hood when you guys tried to get to tough you guys got slapped down I was their so dont tell me shit I got love for these fools I know and chill with still from 18street, but they PCd up when that VERDE was on them . One of my dogs I aint gonna put the fool on blast cuz it was fucked up what they did to him over that verde , got his whole face slashed and you need to jsut shut your punk ass up cuz your a no account and if you go back a few years your homies would tell you what happened to any soldado from 18 that tried ot DO HIS OWN THING. I saw it personally .
HERES SOMETHING ON THE MONGOLS YOU TALKING ABOUT::::
On April 28, 2006, defendant OWENS discussed the
distribution of methamphetamine with a confidential government
informant, and OWENS advised the informant that he regularly
obtained methamphetamine from a Mexican Mafia source.
On September 7, 2006, defendant J. GARCIA told a
confidential government informant that defendants and Mongols
“Mother Chapter” leaders CAVAZOS, R. CAVAZOS, JR., and RODRIGUEZ
and others were concerned about the loss of a negotiated “truce”
with the Mexican Mafia over the collection of “taxes” for drugtrafficking
conducted by Mongols members
On April 10, 2007, defendant CAVAZOS led a Mongols
“Presidents” and “Sergeant-at-Arms” Meeting in Los Angeles,
California, and directed Mongols members to prepare for
retaliation from rival Maravilla gang members in response to the
April 8, 2007 shooting at the “Nicola’s” bar and also addressed
similar confrontations between the Mongols and the Mexican Mafia,
On June 24, 2007, by telephone using coded language,
defendant MOREIN told defendant RODRIGUEZ that an “Avenues” gang
member had threatened to collect “taxes” from MOREIN because
On June 24, 2007, by telephone using coded language,
defendant RODRIGUEZ told an unindicted co-conspirator that
RODRIGUEZ needed to kill a rival Avenues gang member because the
Avenues gang member had attempted to “tax” him for selling
methamphetamine.
166. On June 24, 2007, in Los Angeles, California,
defendant J. GARCIA told undercover law enforcement officers that
“La Eme” representatives had attempted to collect “taxes” from
the Mongols because they were engaged in narcotics trafficking
and that J. GARCIA had not wanted to pay, but that he had to
support his “brother” Mongols.
June 29, 2007, by telephone using coded language,
defendant MOREIN told defendants RODRIGUEZ and GIL that he had
been threatened during a drug transaction, and GIL stated that he
would determine if the persons who threatened MOREIN were part of
the Mexican Mafia.
On July 7, 2007, in Los Angeles, California,defendants CAVAZOS, R. CAVAZOS, JR., and MUNZ and other
unidentified Mongols gang members rewarded defendant MALDONADO
with authorization to display a Mongol “full patch” insignia
tattooed on his head for having shot two members of the rival
Maravilla gang on April 8, 2007.
On November 28, 2007, in Los Angeles, California,
defendant J. GARCIA advised an undercover law enforcement agent,
who was posing as a Mongols “prospect,” that defendant CAVAZOS
was attempting to negotiate with “La Eme” to compensate them for
the narcotics-trafficking being conducted by Mongols members, and
that CAVAZOS had met with “La Eme” representatives at “City Walk”
in Studio City to offer them a one-time “tax” payment, but that
the offer had been rejected and “La Eme” had ordered a “greenlight”
on the Mongols.
On January 19, 2008, defendants CAVAZOS, R. CAVAZOS,
JR., and ROSELI ejected a former Mongol from the “House Lounge”
in Maywood, California, for his connection to the Mexican Mafia
On February 2, 2008, in Los Angeles, California,
defendant J. GARCIA advised an undercover law enforcement
officer, posing as a Mongols “prospect,” that he should not
display Mongols emblems in Cypress Park because of ongoing
conflicts with the Mexican Mafia, and J. GARCIA offered to sell
On February 5, 2008, by telephone using coded
language, defendants CAVAZOS and MUNZ discussed the Mongols’
conflicts with the Mexican Mafia based on the Mongols’ refusal to
pay “taxes” to “La Eme” for their narcotics trafficking and the
consequences of Mongols members entering protective custody while
in prison.
On July 26, 2008, defendant CAVAZOS advised Mongols
“presidents” that defendants R. CAVAZOS, JR., RODRIGUEZ, ROSELI,
A. CAVAZOS, JR., ARMENDAREZ, FIGUEROA, and SOTO, and others would
provide security for CAVAZOS, and defendant MUNOZ advised CAVAZOS
that he was angry CAVAZOS had exposed MUNOZ’ effort to negotiate
with Mexican Mafia representatives and the fact that MUNOZ had
tried to kill rival gang members by shooting at them.
On August 30, 2008, at the “House Lounge” in Vernon,
California, defendants H. GONZALEZ and MUNZ led a Mongols “All
Members” meeting in which they advised Mongols members that
defendant CAVAZOS had stolen money from the organization,
provoked greater tension with the Mexican Mafia, and members
voted CAVAZOS “out bad” from the organization.
On August 30, 2008, in Vernon, California, defendant
H. GONZALEZ advised Mongols that H. GONZALEZ had met with Mexican
Mafia representatives in order to resolve conflicts between the
Mexican Mafia and the Mongols, and defendants NIEVES, ZUNIGA,
CANALES, and others were identified as national officers and
Mongols “Mother Chapter” members.
On September 17, 2008, in Los Angeles County,
California, defendant VASQUEZ possessed approximately 52 grams of
methamphetamine, black tar heroin, approximately $505 in United
States currency, digital scales, three cellular telephones,
Mongols literature and his Mongols black leather vest, and, when
apprehended, told officers that he could not be placed with a
general inmate population because he is a Mongol
On October 8, 2008, at 1:55 a.m., Manual Martin was riding his motorcycle on the eastbound 210 Freeway while transitioning to the southbound 2 Freeway in the city of Glendale. A car pulled up next to him, and within a few seconds, the occupants fired thirteen shots. Martin was shot once in the chest and died within minutes. Seven additional bullets hit his motorcycle. The Glendale Police Department investigated the murder and identified the suspects as members of a local street gang. Their investigation also revealed that the gang was responsible for other crimes.
