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Unread post by AllhoodPublications » June 8th, 2009, 2:30 pm

This lil Spainaird chick is bad...

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that n. african influence showin in her backside.

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Unread post by Cold Bear » June 9th, 2009, 6:13 am

Body is bangin, she got that 'white girl spent too long in the sun' kinda wrinkly face a lil tho

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perongregory wrote:that n. african influence showin in her backside.
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Here's a real North African woman. That Spaniard is just a Eurotrash skank.

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that n. african influence showin in her backside.
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Where did you get the idea that N. African chicks had big asses? They're built like typical white girls. The repressed Muslim thing doesn't help.

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Unread post by perongregory » June 9th, 2009, 12:04 pm

Damn chill homie I meant that as a joke

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Unread post by $outhPhillypuppet » June 9th, 2009, 4:18 pm

Andressa Soares said get the fuck out my face with that troll in the face lookin girl Allhood.

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$outhPhillypuppet wrote:Andressa Soares said get the fu-- out my face with that troll in the face lookin girl Allhood.
LOL.. yall go hard on these women.. any chick with ass and a nice physique will do...

No one is perfect...

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Silencioso wrote:that n. african influence showin in her backside.
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Where did you get the idea that N. African chicks had big asses? They're built like typical white girls. The repressed Muslim thing doesn't help.
besides there are more "black" looking N. African populations other than the n. berbers with fat asses homie.

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I'm too lazy to work with all of that..

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AllhoodPublications wrote:Image

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I'm too lazy to work with all of that..
you mean too skinny?

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Unread post by AllhoodPublications » June 9th, 2009, 5:00 pm

Her big thighs and lard ass... lol

That was nice when i was younger..

But now a big ass on a patique body is more fitting..

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Unread post by perongregory » June 9th, 2009, 5:07 pm

im with you on that.

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Unread post by whiskeyjack » June 11th, 2009, 7:25 am

those berbers and mexican women would be classsified as white in my country... In america if there classified as hispanic, the system is broken

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whiskeyjack wrote:those berbers and mexican women would be classsified as white in my country... In america if there classified as hispanic, the system is broken

How is it broken?
Mexicans aren't classified as white. On the US Census Form, "Hispanic" is seperate from race. Mexicans check Hispanic and then in the race category some check white and some check other, a few check Native American or multi-racial.

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Unread post by xxx » June 11th, 2009, 12:24 pm

Silencioso wrote:
whiskeyjack wrote:those berbers and mexican women would be classsified as white in my country... In america if there classified as hispanic, the system is broken

How is it broken?
Mexicans aren't classified as white. On the US Census Form, "Hispanic" is seperate from race. Mexicans check Hispanic and then in the race category some check white and some check other, a few check Native American or multi-racial.
Not to long ago Mexicans/Latinos/Hispanics were labeled Caucasions on U.S birth certificates.

anybody born in the 1970's or b4 and your Latino, the US got you labeled White on your Birth certificates

Arabs are still labeled Caucasions in the U.S

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North Africa has multiple Races, Berbers, Blacks, invading Arabs......

Europeans labeled the Berbers & Blacks as Moors.

They have prehistoric Cave drawlings in the Sahara desrt (North africa) and the peoples skin color is Black.

Alot of these light skin North Africans is due to invading Europeans over the centuries. ( Greeks, Romans,Spanish, French etc...)

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Unread post by Silencioso » June 12th, 2009, 12:53 pm

North Africa has multiple Races, Berbers, Blacks, invading Arabs......

Europeans labeled the Berbers & Blacks as Moors.

They have prehistoric Cave drawlings in the Sahara desrt (North africa) and the peoples skin color is Black.

Alot of these light skin North Africans is due to invading Europeans over the centuries. ( Greeks, Romans,Spanish, French etc...)

What Europeans called berbers black? Berbers have always been Caucasoid. They're a mix of Cro Magnon and later Middle Eastern Caucasoid that migrated west. Some have Negroid admixture also.

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Unread post by Silencioso » June 12th, 2009, 1:10 pm

Not to long ago Mexicans/Latinos/Hispanics were labeled Caucasions on U.S birth certificates.

THAT'S TRUE. MY BIRTH CERT. SAYS CAUCASIAN AND BOTH BY PARENTS ARE LISTED AS WHITE. MY MOM IS PRETTY WHITE/SPANISH LOOKING BUT MY DAD IS A REGULAR MESTIZO. NOBODY MUCH CARED. IN DAY TO DAY LIFE MEXICANS WERE NOT CONSIDERED WHITE, NOT EVEN AS EXOTIC/ETHNIC WHITES LIKE ARMENIANS, TURKS ETC. MEXICANS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN SEEN AS THEY'RE OWN GROUP IN THE SOUTHWEST NOT WHITE, NOT INDIAN, NOT BLACK.

anybody born in the 1970's or b4 and your Latino, the US got you labeled White on your Birth certificates

YEP, UNLESS THEY WERE DARK INDIOS OR MULATTO/BLACK CARIBBEAN LATINOS..

Arabs are still labeled Caucasions in the U.S

ARABS ARE GROUPED AS CAUCASIAN IN MAINSTREAM/TRADITIONAL ANTHROPOLOGY. SOME ARABS LOOK WHITE EVEN BY NEO-NAZI STANDARDS. I'VE KNOWN MANY LABANESE AND SYRIANS WHO LOOKED SOUTHERN EUROPEAN OR OCCASIONALLY EVEN NORTHERN EUROPEAN. IT ONLY GETS SILLY WHEN MIXED BLACK/ARABS FROM YEMEN OR EGYPT ARE GROUPED AS WHITE. I THINK MIXED ARABS USUALLY IDENTIFY AS OTHER ON THE CENSUS.

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Unread post by xxx » June 13th, 2009, 12:23 pm

Judge Sotomayor, a mythic 'Hispanic'
The supposedly racial term was pushed by Nixon to lump distinct Spanish-speaking groups into one voting bloc. There's no such thing, and the judge should be appointed on her merits.
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Here's a good argument for putting Sonia Sotomayor on the Supreme Court: She's knowledgeable, respected and deeply experienced. As a federal judge for nearly two decades, she's heard thousands of cases and written hundreds of opinions.

And here's a lousy argument for confirming Sotomayor: She would be the first "Hispanic" on the court.


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I put the term in quotation marks because it's a recent invention, dating to the 1970s and '80s. Before then, when Sotomayor was growing up with her Puerto Rican family in New York City, she was not Hispanic.

And words make a difference. As many commentators have reminded us since President Obama nominated Sotomayor, judges are inevitably shaped by their life experiences. But these experiences are themselves shaped -- and, sometimes, distorted -- by the terms that we use to describe them.

How did Mexicans, Cubans, Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, Salvadorans, Panamanians, Nicaraguans and Guatemalans all become Hispanic?


Amid the African American civil rights struggle of the 1960s, many of these groups joined hands to demand voting rights, bilingual education and social services. Here they received a big assist from an unlikely source: Richard Nixon. Eager to bring Mexicans and other Latino immigrants into the Republican fold, Nixon also saw them as a potential bulwark against black political aspirations.

"All Spanish-speaking Americans share certain characteristics -- a strong family structure, deep ties to the church, which makes them open to an appeal from us," wrote one GOP campaign strategist on the eve of Nixon's 1972 presidential reelection bid. "The Democratic Party is under suspicion for favoring politically potent blacks at the expense of the needs of Spanish-speaking people."

So Nixon threw his weight behind bilingual education, which has since become a bête noire for the GOP. He also ordered the Census Bureau to add a query on its 1970 form asking whether respondents were "Hispanic," hoping to further solidify this new voting bloc.

Census Bureau officials balked, noting -- correctly -- that the term lacked scientific and historical precision. They also worried that respondents wouldn't recognize it. So the most commonly used census form in 1970 asked respondents if they were of "Spanish" origin, not whether they were Hispanic.

All that would change in 1977, when the Office of Management and Budget instructed federal agencies to classify Americans as one of four races -- white, black, American Indian/Alaskan Native or Asian/Pacific Islander -- and also to distinguish between two ethnic categories, "of Hispanic origin" and "not of Hispanic origin." Since then, the census has asked people their race and whether they're Hispanic, which is not listed as a "race" per se.

Increasingly, however, Americans thought of it as such. Government agencies used "Hispanic" alongside "Asian" and "black," making Hispanic into a de facto racial category. Businesses and educational institutions counted Hispanics -- or, sometimes, "Latinos" -- as a race in diversity and affirmative action reports.

Not surprisingly, then, Hispanics became more likely over time to identify themselves as a separate race too. In the mid-1990s, 60% of the respondents to a study of more than 5,000 Latin American immigrants self-identified as "white," for example, but only 20% of their children did so.

That's an unprecedented development, as the United States had continuously absorbed people formerly identified in the census as from nonwhite races into the white majority. Jews, Italians and Slavs were all once classified as separate races; now, they're white. But Hispanics are moving in the opposite direction -- from white to nonwhite. In our minds, at least, they've become a minority race.

The language of race is a unifying one, blinding us to the irreducible diversity that a single category can contain. Consider Sotomayor's now infamous comment that a "wise Latina woman" would render a better judicial decision than a white male. While GOP antagonists accused Sotomayor of reverse racism and Democrats rushed to her defense, nobody pointed out that wise Latina women come in all shapes, sizes and ideologies. Would a wise Cuban woman in South Florida see eye-to-eye with a wise Mexican woman in San Diego, or with a wise Salvadoran woman in Washington, D.C.? Probably not.

Even worse, the idea of race tricks us into seeing "Hispanic" as a biological category rather than a cultural one. I frequently do an exercise with my students, asking them how a scientist would identify their race. The most common reply is also the most troubling one: via a blood test. In fact, that would tell you the opposite: We all come from the same ancestor, in East Africa, and we're all mongrels. The blood test does not identify your "race," which primarily exists only in our minds.

As a child, Sotomayor was probably classified as white; now she's Hispanic. But her DNA is the same. The only thing that has changed is the way we look at her. Belying every shard of evidence, we continue to believe that races are different under the skin.

So let's hope that the Senate confirms Sotomayor, one of the most qualified nominees in the history of the Supreme Court. Then let's welcome her as the first person of Puerto Rican descent on the court, not as the first "Hispanic."

If you think the words don't matter, you haven't been listening.

Jonathan Zimmerman teaches history and education at New York University and is the author of the just-published "Small Wonder: The Little Red Schoolhouse in History and Memory."

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Unread post by xxx » June 13th, 2009, 12:38 pm

What Europeans called berbers black? Berbers have always been Caucasoid. They're a mix of Cro Magnon and later Middle Eastern Caucasoid that migrated west. Some have Negroid admixture also.
Did you read Othello in High School?

Or read About the Romans and the Carthaginians of North Africa?

North African General named Hanibal marching into Spain/France on his way to Rome?

Or the Arabs conquering Spain and turned Spain in an Islamic Country?

Anyways the Europeans at those times called North Africans Moors, code word for Black/Dark Skin.

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Unread post by Silencioso » June 13th, 2009, 12:51 pm

The ancient Egyptians called the Lybians(Berbers) white. Color terms have been used in different ways throughout history.

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