what if white people had to be slaves now?

[Azure9920]

I'm sure the Chinese might be able to get some sort of enslavement going, but for the most part White's are too smart to be captured and enslaved.

[Sentenza]

I'm sure the Chinese might be able to get some sort of enslavement going, but for the most part White's are too smart to be captured and enslaved.

The ancient Romans had 100,000ds of slaves from all over northern europe.

Greeks, Berbers, Germans, Britons, Thracians, Gauls (or Celts), Jews, Arabs, and many more were slaves used not only for labor, but also for amusement (e.g. gladiators and sex slaves). If a slave ran away, he was liable to be crucified. By the late Republican era, slavery had become a vital economic pillar in the wealth of Rome.

And some more:

Slavery during the Early Middle Ages had several distinct sources. The Vikings raided across Europe, though their slave raids

were the most destructive in the British Isles and Eastern Europe. While the Vikings kept some slaves for themselves as servants, known as thralls, most people captured by the Vikings would be sold on the Byzantine or Islamic markets. In the West the targets of Viking slavery were primarily English, Irish, and Scottish, while in the East they were mainly Slavs. The Viking slave trade slowly ended in the 1000s, as the Vikings settled in the European territories they once raided, Christianized, and merged with the local populace.

The Islamic World was also a main factor in Medieval European slavery. From the early 700s until the early Modern time period (rough the 18th or 19th centuries) Muslims consistently took European slaves. This slavery began during the Muslim Conquest of Visigothic Spain and Portugal in the 8th century. The Muslim powers of Iberia both raided for slaves and purchased slaves from European merchants, often the Jewish Radhanites, one of the few groups that could easily move between the Christian and Islamic worlds. As the Muslims failed to conquer Europe in the 8th century they took to pirate raids against the shores of Spain, southern Portugal and France, and Italy, that would last roughly from the 9th century until the 12th century, when the Italian city-states of Genoa, Venice, and Pisa, along with the Spanish kingdoms of Aragon and Castile, as well as the Sicilian Normans, began to dominate the Mediterranean.

The sale of European slaves by Europeans slowly ended as the Slavic and Baltic ethnic groups Christianized by the Late Middle Ages. European slaves in the Islamic World would, however, continue into the Modern time period as Muslim pirates, primarily Algerians, with the support of the Ottoman Empire, raided European coasts and shipping from the 16th to the 19th centuries, ending their attacks with the naval decline of the Ottoman Empire in the late 16th and 17th centuries, as well as the European conquest of North Africa throughout the 19th century.

In 1382 the Golden Horde under Khan Tokhtamysh sacked Moscow, burning the city and carrying off thousands of inhabitants as slaves. Between 1414 and 1423, some 10,000 eastern European slaves were sold in Venice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery

The Romans also traded for slaves. We know, for example, that a great portion of the Roman wine sold in Gaul was paid for in human currency (as many as 15,000 a year). One aspect of Gallic and German slavery that the Romans found interesting was the willingness [at least from the Roman point of view] of individuals to sell themselves into slavery to pay off their own debts. European tribes also sold their war captives to Roman slave traders and merchants. Finally, the practice of piracy provided a steady supply of slaves.

Tacitus writes in a treatise on northern Europe about several tribes:

"The chief men are lazy and stupid, besides being filthy, like all the rest."

"All of them live in filth and laziness."

"The Fenni live in a state of amazing savageness and squalid poverty."

http://www.elfinspell.com/TacitusGermany5.html

And other attributes. Doesnt sound like he thought of them as smart. Slavery has got nothing to do with being smart or not, but with who has more manpower to kidnap you.

[Azure9920]

It seems I was mistaken; White's can be enslaved by other Whites.

[Sentenza]

It seems I was mistaken; White's can be enslaved by other Whites.

And Asians and Middle Easterners.

The Mongol invasions and conquests in the 13th century made the situation worse. The Mongols enslaved skilled individuals, women and children and marched them to Karakorum or Sarai, whence they were sold throughout Eurasia. Many of these slaves were shipped to the slave market in Novgorod.

Slave commerce during the Late Middle Ages was mainly in the hands of Venetian and Genoese merchants and cartels, who were involved in the slave trade with the Golden Horde. In 1382 the Golden Horde under Khan Tokhtamysh sacked Moscow, burning the city and carrying off thousands of inhabitants as slaves. Between 1414 and 1423, some 10,000 eastern European slaves were sold in Venice. Genoese merchants organized the slave trade from the Crimea to Mamluk Egypt. For years the Khanates of Kazan and Astrakhan routinely made raids on Russian principalities for slaves and to plunder towns. Russian chronicles record about 40 raids of Kazan Khans on the Russian territories in the first half of the 16th century. In 1521, the combined forces of Crimean Khan Mehmed Giray and his Kazan allies attacked Moscow and captured thousands of slaves

The Byzantine-Ottoman wars and the Ottoman wars in Europe brought large numbers of Christian slaves into the Islamic world too.[29] After the battle of Lepanto approximately 12,000 Christian galley slaves were freed from the Ottoman Turks.[30] Christians were also selling Muslim slaves captured in war. The Knights of Malta attacked pirates and Muslim shipping, and their base became a centre for slave trading, selling captured North Africans and Turks. Malta remained a slave market until well into the late 18th century. It required a thousand slaves to equip merely the galleys (ships) of the Order.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of ... iddle_Ages

Mongols:



Ottomans:



Im not trying to put anyone down, but slavery doesnt have anything to do with being smart, just with military power.

[Sentenza]

Woops, lol sorry the pic was messed up...My bad.

Take this one for Mongols:

[Sentenza]

lol so these freaks had white people as slaves shit atleast whites treat blacks better as slaves then the arabs and mongloids did to the white slaves that must be why white people are so worldly then am i right?

Why does this always have to turn into a race issue? People take slaves for profit. People treat other people bad and justify it with race. The Mongols were some bad ass gold hungry motherfuckers, but not an evil race or something. The same accounts for whites and everyone else.
Taking slaves was the most normal thing back then. African tribes did it (some still do it today: Slave Trade Thrives in Sudan http://www.domini.org/openbook/sud80210.htm ), whites did it, arabs did it, asians did it

How many people died building The Great Wall of China?
It has been estimated that somewhere in the range of 2 to 3 million Chinese died as part of building the wall. This is over the centuries it took to build.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_peop ... l_of_China

Etc. Its not a race issue. It has been made one.

[Babmuk]

WHAT IF NUCLEAR BOMB WILL FALL AT SOUTH LA?

[Sentenza]

wtf slavery was finished after martin lurther king freed the slaves back in 1960 lol these no more slaves any more!!! geeze

I dont understand what you are trying to say...

[Sentenza]

thats because english isn't your first language slav.

you see the american ppl kept blacks as pet and beasts of burden until 1960 when martin lurther king the third free all the slaves and there was this huge riot because whites didn't want black people to live next to them or something i forget i did really pay much attention in history

Im german and you sound more like a foreigner then i do, lol.

So what does it have to do with being worldly? And how did whites treat their slaves better then anyone else? Where did you get that from?

[Sentenza]

oh i see your german so thats where that racist attiude is coming from with call ME [lol] a foreigner . whites gave their slaves food and drink and warm place to live in exchange for labour but the mongols treated the white slave badly and so did the arabs plus the white slave learnt how to deal with those ppl who had enslaved and oppressed him and so when the white man was freed by killing the slave masters and returning to europe he told the rest of the known world about these places and etc.

Yea, thats it, exactly.

In terms of absolute numbers, the lowest possible (and only barely possible at that) death toll we can put on the trans-Atlantic slave trade is 6 million. If we assume the absolute worst, a death toll as high as 60 million is at the very edge of possibility; however, the likeliest number of deaths would fall somewhere from 15 to 20 million.

Thats what you call "treating good"?

http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstatv.htm

What kind of theory is that? The white slave returned to europe and told europeans about those places, so they could invade? What did you smoke?

White slaves mixed with the people there, married and blended into central asian and middle eastern societies.

What about this Arabic woman for example?



or this Afghan kid?



My girlfriend is turkish btw. from Istanbul. No one could ever tell that she is from there, people think she is german.

[Sentenza]

Fuck these pics, lol

PART IV - THE ARYANS IN AFGHANISTAN AND INDIA



http://www.white-history.com/hwr5c.htm

[Silencioso]

If Slavs aren't white then you might as well abandon the whole "white" concept because it doesn't mean anything.

Russians, Poles, Slovaks not white? Be serious. In the dictionary if you look up "white people" they have picture of a Slavic peasant.

[Azure9920]

And Asians and Middle Easterners.

Middle Easterners are White, and the Mongols were a Turkic people.

Sorry, but I'm right. A technological advantage comes from a cultural advantage, which is caused by a well developed and more intelligent people.

[Silencioso]

lol you have a dictionary with pictures lol you must be slow
there is no way slavs are white they have more in common with laplanders, turks, and eskimos then with white people just because some one has light skin doesn't mean they are white look at some jews for fu-- sake. I bet you think koreans and japanese ppl are white too.


No I don't think Japanese and Koreans are white. At least not in the racial sense. Honestly, I don't see any big difference between a Slav and an Anglo-Saxon and I think most non-whites think of them as all one big group. Slavs are a little sturdier and healthier looking, that's about it.

[Sentenza]

And Asians and Middle Easterners.

Middle Easterners are White, and the Mongols were a Turkic people.

Sorry, but I'm right. A technological advantage comes from a cultural advantage, which is caused by a well developed and more intelligent people.

The original turkish people are from Mongolia:

The name Turk (Chinese: 突厥, pinyin: tu jue; jyutping: duk kyut) was first applied to a clan of tribal chieftains (known as Ashina) who overthrew the ruling Rouran confederency, and founded the nomadic Göktürk Empire (Tu-kiu,Türük) ("Celestial Turks")[61] These nomads roamed in the Altai Mountains (and thus are known as Altaic peoples) in northern Mongolia and on the steppes of Central Asia.

Altai Mountains:



They were nowhere near white, unless you want to call japanese and chinese people white also.

Concerning Middle Easterners: Everybody has stuck their dick in there: Africans, Europeans, Asians. Middle Eastern people are a mix of them all. That is beyond doubt. Blacks have always been there aswell as asians and europeans.

The Arabs and the Moors were technologically more advanced then europe, just like china at some point. The Mongols were never more technologically advanced, but they knew how to ride a horse and how to shoot a bow and how to utilize the weapons they robbed from others:

Siege machines and gunpowder learned from the Chinese and Persians played an important role in the horde. Besides their use in sieges, siege weapons were widely deployed on the battlefield. The Mongols mastered the use of quick assemble catapults that could be transported on horseback and assembled on the battlefield. Learned from the Chinese, the Mongols developed gunpowder weapons such as smoke grenades (used to hide movement) and firebombs. Both of these contributed to the Mongol success in the invasion of Europe. The Mongol's acceptance and adaptations to such new methods meant that they were not only an army of the most traditionally skilled warriors, but also an army with the best technology the world has to offer.

http://www.allempires.com/article/index ... gol_Empire

Black African Empires except ancient egypt never invented script, like most of the world did, making it impossible to pass on knowledge and to do scientific research the way we know it. The reasons for that remain unsolved from what i know but intelligence is not it, africans can read and write like everyone else.

[Azure9920]

The original turkish people are from Mongolia:

The name Turk (Chinese: 突厥, pinyin: tu jue; jyutping: duk kyut) was first applied to a clan of tribal chieftains (known as Ashina) who overthrew the ruling Rouran confederency, and founded the nomadic Göktürk Empire (Tu-kiu,Türük) ("Celestial Turks")[61] These nomads roamed in the Altai Mountains (and thus are known as Altaic peoples) in northern Mongolia and on the steppes of Central Asia.

Sorry bro, but the Proto-Turkic people were Caucasian.

"After the fusion of the A and B sectors, new graves were dug in the west. These graves correspond to a group of genetically linked individuals, since they belong to a single paternal lineage. Interestingly, this paternal lineage has been, at least in part (6 of 7 STRs), found in a present-day Turkish individual (Henke et al. 2001). Moreover, the mtDNA sequence shared by four of these paternal relatives (from graves 46, 52, 54, and 57) were also found in a Turkish individuals (Comas et al. 1996), suggesting a possible Turkish origin of these ancient specimens. Two other individuals buried in the B sector (graves 61 and 90) were characterized by mtDNA sequences found in Turkish people (Calafell 1996; Richards et al. 2000). These data might reflect the emergence at the end of the necropolis of a Turkish component in the Xiongnu tribe."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1180365/

They were nowhere near white, unless you want to call japanese and chinese people white also.

Maybe if the Chinese and Japanese shared identical genetic markers with modern day Caucasians, then yes.

Concerning Middle Easterners: Everybody has stuck their dick in there: Africans, Europeans, Asians. Middle Eastern people are a mix of them all. That is beyond doubt. Blacks have always been there aswell as asians and europeans.

Incredibly untrue. The amount of East-Asian and Sub-Saharan African DNA in the Middle East is minimal. Even in North Africa there are only insignificant traces of Sub-Saharan DNA. Face it, they are as White as any European.

The Arabs and the Moors were technologically more advanced then europe, just like china at some point. The Mongols were never more technologically advanced, but they knew how to ride a horse and how to shoot a bow and how to utilize the weapons they robbed from others:

The Arabs and Moors were both White, like I've tried to explain.

Black African Empires except ancient egypt never invented script, like most of the world did, making it impossible to pass on knowledge and to do scientific research the way we know it. The reasons for that remain unsolved from what i know but intelligence is not it, africans can read and write like everyone else.

First off, Egyptians aren't/weren't Black. The big thing they never capitalized on in Africa was agriculture, that's why they lagged behind through history - in a nutshell.

[Sentenza]

First off, Egyptians aren't/weren't Black. The big thing they never capitalized on in Africa was agriculture, that's why they lagged behind through history - in a nutshell.

By all means egyptians had a strong black african influence. Genetically, linguistically and culturally

While some Egyptian Egyptologists such as Zahi Hawass insist not only that the Ancient Egyptians did not fit neatly into a racial group, but that Ancient Egypt was not an African civilization, there is a growing scholarly consensus among academics of various fields who contend that Ancient Egypt was fundamentally an African civilization, with cultural and biological connections to Egypt's African neighbors.
Ancient Egyptian history is taught in several African studies programs, with an emphasis on Ancient Egypt as an African rather than Near Eastern civilization, at Universities around the world. Several anthropologists who study the biological relationships of the Ancient Egyptian population call for a recognition of Africa's genetic diversity when considering the racial identity of the Ancient Egyptians.[40] Since race is not considered to be a valid scientific concept by most modern scientists, the focus of some experts who study population biology has been to seek an answer to the question of whether or not the Ancient Egyptians were primarily biologically African rather than which race they belonged to.
[...]
While the contributors differed in some opinions the scholarly consensus was that Ancient Egypt was and should be considered an African civilization.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Eg ... ontroversy

[punamusta]

During the time between 1713-1721 when Russians started a genocide mostly in western parts of Finland killing 1/4 of the population there, they also captured tens of thousands of Finns to be their slaves. Those slaves were used mostly for the construction sites in St. Petersburg area, but also sold to other countries. Because of that, in 18th century there were Finnish slaves as far as in Persia. Only very few of them ever managed to come back to Finland.

[Silencioso]

just because they have white looking skin doesn't mean they are white yes they do look european sortof but you have to expected that the whites and slavs breed together I mean you can't be that thick? but they are most asian and if you can't see that then I'm sorry I can't help

I don't need your help, whiteboy. Slavs, Germans, Scandinavians, Baltics etc. are all the same basic people. They're all Northern Euro type whites. Italians, Greeks and Spaniards are Southern Euro type whites - darker than Northerners but still clearly white. That's plain to any non-white person and most whites, also. Only Germanic types (Germans, WASPs, Afrikaaners) cherry pick about who's "really white". If you want to pretend that Slavs are Asians and Italians are Arabs that your problem.

[Silencioso]

Concerning Middle Easterners: Everybody has stuck their dick in there: Africans, Europeans, Asians. Middle Eastern people are a mix of them all. That is beyond doubt. Blacks have always been there aswell as asians and europeans.

Sentenza, not all Middle Eastern people are mixed. Northern Iranians, Kurds, Druze, Armenians, some Turks, some Levantine Arabs are solidly (like 90% or more) Caucasoid/W. Eurasian. The black influence in the Middle East is limited to Arabs, especially the ones in the Gulf region. Non-Arab Middle Easterners - Persians, Armenians, Kurds, Shephardic Jews and Druze - have no SS African (ie. "black") dna.

[Azure9920]

By all means egyptians had a strong black african influence. Genetically, linguistically and culturally

This will explain much better than I could:

http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B8p ... MjEw&hl=en

The most important piece of information you'll get out of it:

"The Predynastic of Upper Egypt and the Late Dynastic of Lower Egypt are more closely related to each other than to any other population. As a whole, they show ties with the European Neolithic, North Africa, modern Europe, and, more remotely, India, but not at all with sub-Saharan Africa, eastern Asia, Oceania, or the New World."

[Sentenza]

By all means egyptians had a strong black african influence. Genetically, linguistically and culturally

This will explain much better than I could:

http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B8p ... MjEw&hl=en

The most important piece of information you'll get out of it:

"The Predynastic of Upper Egypt and the Late Dynastic of Lower Egypt are more closely related to each other than to any other population. As a whole, they show ties with the European Neolithic, North Africa, modern Europe, and, more remotely, India, but not at all with sub-Saharan Africa, eastern Asia, Oceania, or the New World."

Well "not at all" is 100% false and also was back then. Most recently most Egyptologists agree that ancient Egypt was of african origin, like stated above.

[punamusta]

but finns are more mongoloid then white

More mongoloid than white? What that even means? If mongoloids refers to Mongolian people, then aren't their skin white too?

Like this:

[Azure9920]

Well "not at all" is 100% false and also was back then. Most recently most Egyptologists agree that ancient Egypt was of african origin, like stated above.

Well, that just so happens to be the most highly regarded study on the genetic make up of the Dynastic Egyptians. You can't exactly say that it's false without anything to back it up. Egypt is in Africa, so yes it is an African civilization. However, it was NOT a Negroid civilization.

[whiskeyjack]

We would all have Big Muscles