LRZ 13 and LRZ Folks

[SWblocks-Veteran]

La Raza 13 and La Raza Folks? Any of yall know if they are still around? They used to be DEEP as hell when I was a teen, I seen a couple tags for LRZ while in Hiram Clarke a few years ago but I seen nothing recently...anyone know the word on these two gangs?

[htown]

LRZ BROKE UP BACK IN THE LATE 90'S

[SWblocks-Veteran]

LRZ BROKE UP BACK IN THE LATE 90'S

Folks or 13?? Both??

thats hard to believe if both of them broke up they had deep numbers when I was growing up in the early and mid 90s

[MIROLLO]

Well I remember back in 93-94 when I was at the Gary JobCorps in San Marcos,Tx. there was alot of Houston dudes up in there who where from Chicagos LaRaza(Folks)Gang...Well that I can remember they was all H-Towners mostly...They(LRZ)had all gotten together in a front against the Latin Kings Nation that where up in there in numbers aswell...I know them LRZ's colors are Mexican flag tri-colors but in there they just flagged the green rag...That's how I figured they was mostly from Houston...Anyways they was alot of them LRZ vatos...Hard to believe they would disintergrate like that,at least the chapters here in Houston that claimed to be from LaRaza...But then I didn't grow up around here so I really don't know how deep they was...I knew this dude from Harlingen,Tx. who used to claim La Raza13,he had said someone had brought that hood from Houston to Harlingen like back in the early 90's,of what I remember him telling me...But he didn't give anymore details about that...Don't know if they still around down there,never meet anyone else but him who claimed that...Just wondering if La Raza13 is connected to the LRZ13 of L.A. or San Diego,Califas...And if they claimed SurX3(Sureños)...Or if they was just a local gang and not Cali connected...What parts of Houston did both these gangs claim...Well that's all I got on the matter.............Thee Originale1. Puro Valle 956 y McAllito 4 Lifers...

[SWblocks-Veteran]

Just wondering if La Raza13 is connected to the LRZ13 of L.A. or San Diego,Califas...And if they claimed SurX3(Sureños)...Or if they was just a local gang and not Cali connected...What parts of Houston did both these gangs claim

This was over a decade ago but from what I remember LRZ Folks was an Alief and Sharpstown thing mostly on the Westside of 59 and LRZ 13 was on the Eastside of 59 more of a Westbury, Hiram Clarke/Mo City thing. We were cool with LRZ Folks back in the day and enemies with LRZ 13 but my particular set didnt have much involvement with either one of them so I dont remember many details about them, I just know they both easily had over 400-500 members.

Im still trying to find out if both of them broke up or only one of them. Someone letme know?

[short.texas]

Well I remember back in 93-94 when I was at the Gary JobCorps in San Marcos,Tx. there was alot of Houston dudes up in there who where from Chicagos LaRaza(Folks)Gang...Well that I can remember they was all H-Towners mostly...They(LRZ)had all gotten together in a front against the Latin Kings Nation that where up in there in numbers aswell...I know them LRZ's colors are Mexican flag tri-colors but in there they just flagged the green rag...That's how I figured they was mostly from Houston...Anyways they was alot of them LRZ vatos...Hard to believe they would disintergrate like that,at least the chapters here in Houston that claimed to be from LaRaza...But then I didn't grow up around here so I really don't know how deep they was...I knew this dude from Harlingen,Tx. who used to claim La Raza13,he had said someone had brought that hood from Houston to Harlingen like back in the early 90's,of what I remember him telling me...But he didn't give anymore details about that...Don't know if they still around down there,never meet anyone else but him who claimed that...Just wondering if La Raza13 is connected to the LRZ13 of L.A. or San Diego,Califas...And if they claimed SurX3(Sureños)...Or if they was just a local gang and not Cali connected...What parts of Houston did both these gangs claim...Well that's all I got on the matter.............Thee Originale1. Puro Valle 956 y McAllito 4 Lifers...

Murillo I see u know what ur talkin about homie. I banged West Side Rollin' 60's Crip from Spring Branch and we were close allies and still are with the LRZ Folks. Like any gang that is real selective on membership and have no solid hood, they fade out. LRZ Folks were a smaller gang compared to the 60's or BD, we were once allies together against the Cholos and anybody who wanted some, and briefly used to refer to this alliance as 666. That was for the folks and the 6 for the 60's, not cuz we banged stars bcuz we didn't. Anyway, like us we never got into a stronghold in a hood like South West Cholos did and let everybody and anybody in. Thats how Cholos stayed around so long. If you get a chance hit me up on a pm cuz I want to know who you knew from LRZ Folks in San Marcos.

[short.texas]

La Raza 13 and La Raza Folks? Any of yall know if they are still around? They used to be DEEP as hell when I was a teen, I seen a couple tags for LRZ while in Hiram Clarke a few years ago but I seen nothing recently...anyone know the word on these two gangs?

Wuz craccin homie! Yo checc game the LRZ 13's is still around, they got a lot of young ones doing they thing cuz as you know, aint no thirtysomething year-old niggaz ridin around in Houston reppin and bangin like that. Craziest thing though was that there were two LRZ 13s. They split when one main nigga (I aint gonna put his name out there) pulled a strap on another lil nigga on the set. So they split and went to war, both calling themselves LRZ 13 still. Of course they was both at war with the Cholos but then again everybody was at war with the Cholos. As you know the Rollin' 60's was rollin hard with my niggaz from LRZ Folks bcuz we had that alliance that hard with them. We were cool with the LRZ 13 that split from the main set which is that Hiram Clarke set, the other set was from Sharpstown area. They was real cool with the Folks too, and they had always been, bcuz they shared the same name. The main thing though was that the Folks and the 13's were never allied, they were just real cool. Both LRZ 13 gangs were cool with the Folks even though they each new that the Folks were cool with both sides.
But here's another twist homie, the LRZ 13s from Sharpstown area wanted to form an alliance with the LRZ Folks and were real serious about it. So the Folks said lets have a big meeting. It was only a handful LRZ Folks and us, the 60's, who met up with them and they told us their plans on what they were doing. One of the main niggaz said that he didn't want to be allied with any black gangs bcuz he was on some Mexican pride stuff. So we were like say cuz the 60's is a black gang even though our gang was mixed, niggaz and mexicans. But then at the same time they wanted to kill the other LRZ 13s, a mexican gang. these fools were full of it.
Now heres another bomb, everybody had a vicious war going on with the Cholos and had been for a while. Quiet as it may have been kept the Rollin' 60's and LRZ Folks were Cholos' worst enemies. At that time they hated us two more than they hated LP, and thats real talk. This was cuz they never stacked a body count us, and the homies blasted a lot of Cholos. But again, so did a lot of other gangs. But what the 13's told us was that they had been working on an alliance with the Cholos and were gonna use their pull to get a truce between Cholos and Folks to go against the "black gangs": Rollin' 60's and Black Disciples. In the end LRZ Folks told them they would never be cool with the Cholos and the 60's was they only allies. The Folks were always a small click and some of the homies are still around. u can pm me if you want man and tell me who you know. But LRZ Folks faded out cuz only real niggaz could be down. and real niggaz died out. I can still holla at the homies if i want.

[SWblocks-Veteran]

[ Craziest thing though was that there were two LRZ 13s. They split when one main nigga (I aint gonna put his name out there) pulled a strap on another lil nigga on the set. So they split and went to war, both calling themselves LRZ 13 still.

We were cool with the LRZ 13 that split from the main set which is that Hiram Clarke set, the other set was from Sharpstown area

Ya I am familiar with all that, I know the Hiram Clarke LRZs bc they had plex with SSC patnas over there in Mayfair back in the day..that was one of their worst enemies and they used to go at it up at Willowridge...both sides lost some bodies during that war. Lost a patna of mine during that time.

Quiet as it may have been kept the Rollin' 60's and LRZ Folks were Cholos' worst enemies. At that time they hated us two more than they hated LP, and thats real talk. This was because they never stacked a body count us, and the homies blasted a lot of Cholos.

Oh it wasnt quiet when I was growing up at all. Me personally I always felt like the 60s was SWCs worst enemies in Sharpstown but after the mid 90s it was LP and SWC going at it rought. But I do know for a fact they atleast dropped one 60 back in the day bc it was all on the news and in the streets when it happened. Well actually it was Lords of Aliefs..but thats SWC when u get down to it cause of that super tight and only alliance they had, and wasnt the founding members SWCs who moved to Alief? Thats what I had always heard, anyway its when LA showed up to that one 60 party and caught them 60s slipping and was calling niggas out to come to the front yard and one of them real ass kats from 60s went out there one deep and started going hands and them LAs ended up smoking his ass in the front yard WHILE from what I always heard the 60s who had numbers present was hiding out in the backyard letting their patna get killed. I remember a lot of D's I knew were cool with that dude and that event kinda made everyone think that 60s had started letting marks get in bc they let their homeboy die like that and didnt come out and get down. But I heard it was 1 or 2 OGs present and that the 60s actually had a gun with them thats the thing that tripped me out. I know how street stories are and shit gets mixed up but thats always the only story I heard on it. I was heavily active on the SW when that went down and my superior was kinfolk to that 60 who got killed...it was on the news for like a week. Wish I could remember his name, shit happened so long ago.

But what the 13's told us was that they had been working on an alliance with the Cholos and were gonna use their pull to get a truce between Cholos and Folks to go against the "black gangs": Rollin' 60's and Black Disciples.

Oh I believe that no doubt..I saw you said something about 13s being kool with Folks but we were already LRZ13 killers out the gate when I got down in 93..only LRZ we had love for was the Folks we didnt even cut for the other 13s either. Maybe 13s only cut for Hispanic Folks cause it was no love for them when I was growing up.

[short.texas]

Oh it wasnt quiet when I was growing up at all. Me personally I always felt like the 60s was SWCs worst enemies in Sharpstown but after the mid 90s it was LP and SWC going at it rought. But I do know for a fact they atleast dropped one 60 back in the day bc it was all on the news and in the streets when it happened. Well actually it was Lords of Aliefs..but thats SWC when u get down to it cause of that super tight and only alliance they had, and wasnt the founding members SWCs who moved to Alief? Thats what I had always heard, anyway its when LA showed up to that one 60 party and caught them 60s slipping and was calling niggas out to come to the front yard and one of them real ass kats from 60s went out there one deep and started going hands and them LAs ended up smoking his ass in the front yard WHILE from what I always heard the 60s who had numbers present was hiding out in the backyard letting their patna get killed. I remember a lot of D's I knew were cool with that dude and that event kinda made everyone think that 60s had started letting marks get in bc they let their homeboy die like that and didnt come out and get down. But I heard it was 1 or 2 OGs present and that the 60s actually had a gun with them thats the thing that tripped me out. I know how street stories are and shit gets mixed up but thats always the only story I heard on it. I was heavily active on the SW when that went down and my superior was kinfolk to that 60 who got killed...it was on the news for like a week. Wish I could remember his name, shit happened so long ago.

Yeah that was my loc C-Dog, his name was Cedric Paddio. The Lords of Alief were in fact South West Cholos, they were just the Alief click. Only a few of my locs were there that night. The party that night was in the back yard and C-Dog was in the front yard chillin. these cholo niggaz showed up to crash the party and the nigga that ended up first shooting C-Dog recognized him cuz C-Dog and some of the homies mopped him once when they caught him slippin at the South West Flea Market. And so cuz called out the homie to chunk 'em and the homie mopped this nigga again. by this time they clicked on C-Dog and the first cholo came back and blasted my homie with a gauge and then his partner backdo'ed him with an a.k. the homies that were there (there was only 3) knew these niggaz were strapped to the teeth and by this time they had already killed C-Dog. Theres a lot of niggaz out there that will say what they want but those niggaz wont jump out in front on no AK for they own partnaz. And the truth is that by the time everybody knew what was going on C-Dog was dead. Everybody was gettin somewhere. One of the homies who was there did have a strap, he had a .380 and he blasted on one of the cars when they bounced but that was all my loc could do. u dig what im sayin.

[short.texas]

oh and the only other homie they got was my nigga Bo. they caught cuz out there on Bellaire in Cholo hood. the 60's then faded cuz we stopped puttin niggaz on the set and everything really heated up bad with the LPs and Cholos. Thats how Cholos and LP's became worst enemies.

[SWblocks-Veteran]

Oh it wasnt quiet when I was growing up at all. Me personally I always felt like the 60s was SWCs worst enemies in Sharpstown but after the mid 90s it was LP and SWC going at it rought. But I do know for a fact they atleast dropped one 60 back in the day bc it was all on the news and in the streets when it happened. Well actually it was Lords of Aliefs..but thats SWC when u get down to it cause of that super tight and only alliance they had, and wasnt the founding members SWCs who moved to Alief? Thats what I had always heard, anyway its when LA showed up to that one 60 party and caught them 60s slipping and was calling niggas out to come to the front yard and one of them real ass kats from 60s went out there one deep and started going hands and them LAs ended up smoking his ass in the front yard WHILE from what I always heard the 60s who had numbers present was hiding out in the backyard letting their patna get killed. I remember a lot of D's I knew were cool with that dude and that event kinda made everyone think that 60s had started letting marks get in bc they let their homeboy die like that and didnt come out and get down. But I heard it was 1 or 2 OGs present and that the 60s actually had a gun with them thats the thing that tripped me out. I know how street stories are and shit gets mixed up but thats always the only story I heard on it. I was heavily active on the SW when that went down and my superior was kinfolk to that 60 who got killed...it was on the news for like a week. Wish I could remember his name, shit happened so long ago.

Yeah that was my loc C-Dog, his name was Cedric Paddio. The Lords of Alief were in fact South West Cholos, they were just the Alief click. Only a few of my locs were there that night. The party that night was in the back yard and C-Dog was in the front yard chillin. these cholo niggaz showed up to crash the party and the nigga that ended up first shooting C-Dog recognized him because C-Dog and some of the homies mopped him once when they caught him slippin at the South West Flea Market. And so because called out the homie to chunk 'em and the homie mopped this nigga again. by this time they clicked on C-Dog and the first cholo came back and blasted my homie with a gauge and then his partner backdo'ed him with an a.k. the homies that were there (there was only 3) knew these niggaz were strapped to the teeth and by this time they had already killed C-Dog. Theres a lot of niggaz out there that will say what they want but those niggaz wont jump out in front on no AK for they own partnaz. And the truth is that by the time everybody knew what was going on C-Dog was dead. Everybody was gettin somewhere. One of the homies who was there did have a strap, he had a .380 and he blasted on one of the cars when they bounced but that was all my loc could do. u dig what im sayin.

Paper: HOUSTON CHRONICLE
Date: FRI 11/05/1993
Section: A
Page: 30
Edition: 2 STAR

4 gang members arrested, 2 sought in weekend murder of teen

By JOE STINEBAKER
Staff

Four members of the Lords of Alief street gang have been arrested, and police were searching for two others in the slaying of a 16-year-old Elsik High School student at a weekend Halloween party.

Homicide detective Tony Fincher said two adult gang members were arrested Wednesday night and charged with engaging in organized crime. Two juveniles were arrested on Tuesday, and another is being sought.

The two adults were identified as Gabriel Martinez, 17, of 4700 S. Kirkwood, and Victor Mendoza, 18, of 11622 Pine Knoll.

They were arrested in a parking lot near Martinez's home and are in the Harris County Jail on $5,000 bond.

Investigators also are searching for Mendoza's brother, 21-year-old Vidal Arnoldo Mendoza, who is charged with murder in the case. Police say Vidal Mendoza apparently has fled Houston.

Vidal Mendoza is believed to be one of two gunmen who shot Joseph Cedric Paddio to death after an argument between rival gangs attending a Halloween party at 11402 Herald Square on Saturday.

Investigators say that Paddio, who has been identified as a member of the Rolling 60s street gang of southwest Houston, was at the party with as many as 75 other teens.

Members of the Lords of Alief, a rival gang, arrived and an argument ensued. Paddio was called outside to fight and was attacked by as many as eight people.

Investigators said there apparently were three series of shots fired from a pistol and an AK-47 assault rifle. Paddio was fatally wounded and left to die in the street.

Paddio's shooting has heightened tensions among gang members at Alief's Elsik and Hastings high schools, prompting school officials to reschedule a football game between the two schools.

The game, originally scheduled for 7:30 tonight, will be played under increased security at 1 p.m. Saturday.

Yaaa Cedric was his name I just looked up that article, 93 that shit was 16 years ago! I was 13 and I had just got put on earlier that year. But ya short I feel you on 99 percent of patnas aint gonna step infront of you when bullets start coming your way. Thats not the only time its happened in Houston or anywhere in the world for that matter. Fucked up that he died like that, I remember A LOT of BDs I knew cutted for him..A LOT. Actually I heard a lot of stories that he was supposed to have been a BD but for some reason he ended up being a 60. Either way them SWCs did used to get their blast on, I remember being on Beechnut kicking at a BGD's from St Louis apt with a bunch of other D's from SW in LP hood near Gessner in the bricks apartments and them SWCs came through and busted on LP hit a u-turn came back and started dumping on us as they left..some 2 for 1 type of shit..that SW was wild when that gang shit was going on.

[BountyHuntaO]

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