Vice lords

[TarHeelRED]

Casper what's happening homie. It seems like u know alot about whats's happening in Chicago and know a pretty good deal on the gangs around there. I got a question 4 u. I know I'm out of topic ya'll but just bear with me.

Do any of the folk nation setts fight against eachother like the vicelords do?

Also as a whole, I'm not talking about different setts, who do u consider deeper in Chicago the vicelords or the gd's?

[Casper]

Casper what's happening homie. It seems like u know alot about whats's happening in Chicago and know a pretty good deal on the gangs around there. I got a question 4 u. I know I'm out of topic ya'll but just bear with me.

Do any of the folk nation setts fight against eachother like the vicelords do?

Also as a whole, I'm not talking about different setts, who do u consider deeper in Chicago the vicelords or the gd's?

Yeah mostly all Folk nations Fight eachother a good example would be the Ambrose against La Raza
Or G's with MLD's

Id probably say G's
But VL's do got alot of Factions
So I give it to the Lords

[TarHeelRED]

I appreciate u answering those queastions 4 me dawg.

[Casper]

Anytime

[FLUID]

Even though Lords got all of those branches, they still be havin love for each other. The fightin comes in over MONEY. But if you have a CVL meeting, it's still gon' be a couple Insanes and maybe a Taker or Traveler or 2 in there with em'. Basically all VL lit & symbols are the same. All of that branchin shit just happened in the early 90's. I'm 25 and still can remember when everybody was just VL. Then all of a sudden everybody was CVL(the mother branch). Then all of the other branches came. IVL, CIVL, MIVL, IIVL, TVL, UTVL, UVL, 4VL, and that's really it.

[Casper]

Yeah I agree with ya

[blackmanofhonor]

MAN IM FROM MILWAUKEE, WI AND ALOT OF VL ARE #%@& UP IN THE HEAD WHEN REGARDING TO THEIR SYBOLS AND WHICH WAY THEY SUPPOSE TO BE TURNED.

I SAW A CRESCENT FACING THE LEFT WHEN IT GOES TO THE RIGHT!
AND THEY THINK THEIR COLORS ARE JUST RED AND BLACK WHEN IN REALITY ITS RED AND GOLD GOLD AND RED HOWEVER YOU SAY IT.

you messing with some false flaggers in the Mil,its some true Lords up here that even have rank.

[blackmanofhonor]

Even though Lords got all of those branches, they still be havin love for each other. The fightin comes in over MONEY. But if you have a CVL meeting, it's still gon' be a couple Insanes and maybe a Taker or Traveler or 2 in there with em'. Basically all VL lit & symbols are the same. All of that branchin shit just happened in the early 90's. I'm 25 and still can remember when everybody was just VL. Then all of a sudden everybody was CVL(the mother branch). Then all of the other branches came. IVL, CIVL, MIVL, IIVL, TVL, UTVL, UVL, 4VL, and that's really it.

VLs were always in branches,the CVL were just original branch and always were the deepest.

[FLUID]

^^^^^Rockford a little slower. The VLs touched down in the town in the 70's/early 80's. But it seem like like all the branches popped up in the late 80's/early 90's. Imma check on that shit.

[blackmanofhonor]

Vice Lords were always in branches,some branches flourished some didnt

Lords was in the mil in the 70s

[FLUID]

My VL homie(he 27) who just did 4 straight years in Shawnee for shootin a mufucka just told me some info he got from some OG VLs in the joint:

When VL formed in the 60's everybody was just VL. Then it became Exucutioner VL and then Almighty VL. CVL formed in the 70's and then every other branch that exists today formed from & after CVL. It went somethin like that but it was never CVL-MIVL-IIVL-TVL-UVL-UTVL from the jump.

[FLUID]

Milwaukee is known for being a big GD city. What VL branches got demos up there? What they be on? They be clickin with Folks? What's the biggest/most known VL deck up there?

[blackmanofhonor]

There are CVLs,TVLs and UVLs in the mil,but you meet members of other branches from out of town sometimes.I have ran into CIVLs and MIVLs in milwaukee.The deepest Vice Lords are the CVLs up here but 4CHs are deeper than CVLs I would say.But there alot of CVLs in Milwaukee.

[blackmanofhonor]

There were Conservative Vice Lords in the 1960s,they even had the name Incorporated.CVL inc.They recieved money from the government around that time to build recreation centers in the neighborhoods.

[FLUID]

I remember when they got that government money and that white dude had came and joined the VLs. I think his name was Bobby Gore? But yeah, the Lords had all types of businesses on the WS of the Chi with CVL as the name of the business. I think they had a recreation center, candy store, car wash, and some other shit. But when they got that government money I could've sworn that was in the 70's. (Imma find out and tell you later, if I can cause my computer got a virus or some shit and it's actin up)

[blackmanofhonor]

joined?David dawley was close with some Vice Lords,and they jokingly refered to him as the first white Vice Lord,but he wasnt an official member.

[blackmanofhonor]

Bobby Gore was a VL leader during that time....David Dawley(I think im spelling it right) was the white liberal who helped and supported the CVL causes.

[FLUID]

Yeah, I guess his name was David Dawley. The white dude that was close to em'.

[FLUID]

That white dude did join them though. He wrote a book and I peeped him on a TV show one day.. He probably wasn't no banger or on no criminal shit but he was a VL.

[FLUID]

Matter of a fact, I got the book right here. I never read it. I forgot I bought this shit cause my ya-dig told me about it in the county jail back in 99'. It's called A Nation Of Lords--Autobiography of the ViceLords by David Dawley. Dude came from New england and got involved with The Lords in 1967 and joined in 1969 until 1971. He was the only white VL in Lawndale back then. I might read the shit now.

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Milwaukee is known for being a big GD city. What VL branches got demos up there? What they be on? They be clickin with Folks? What's the biggest/most known VL deck up there?

VL UP HERE FROM MY KNOWLEDGE CLICK with KINGS GDS ON THE NORTH SIDE AND SOUTH SIDE EVERY BODY USUALLY BE with EVERY BODY YU KNOW JUST KICKIN IT.
WHEN EVER DRAMA POP OFF THAT GANG ISH USUALLY DON'T COME INTO PLAY UNTIL LATER OR IT MAY HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH SETS DRUGS MONEY OR HOODRATS(SETS,WHICH IS ONLY OF FEW UP HERE THAT ARE ORGANIZED

LIKE 2-6 26TH STREET FROM BURLEIGH TO CENTER ST. MY BROTHER IS A GD FROM THAT SET. I MET SOME REAL AS GD 'S OLD SCHOOL,AINT TO MANY REAL ANYMORE JUST LITTLE NIGGAZ RUNNING AROUND CLAIMING ISH FOR NOTHING. AND 9 X OUT OF TEN THESE SAME NIGGAS A BE GETTING CHASE BY LATIN KINGS ON THE SOUTH SIDE AFTER SCHOOL OR THEY'LL FALSE FLAGG SAYING THEY VL OR SOMETHING BUT YO ONE DAY THESE KINGSK GONNA REALIZE THAT VICELORDS AND KINGS AINT FAM AND THESE GD THAT FALSE FLAGG OR VL NIGGAS THAT BE OVA THERE GONE GET CAUGHT SLIPPING.
CAUSE IN CHICAGO THEY PRETTY MUCH HATE EACH OTHER BUT THEY FAMILY WITH BLACK P STONES

KEEFE AVENUE 6TH ON DOWN TO 1ST BACK IN 95/96/97/98 DON'T NOW ABOUT NOW USED TO BE VICELORD CITY MOST HAVE FELL OFF OR EITHER LOCKED UP.<--- I GOT A FEW CATS I GREW UP with FROM DOWN THERE ON 1ST AND TOWNSEND..


BUT DAMN, THATS KNOWN IN CHICAGO? THE THING ABOUT MIL-TOWN BEING GD CITY?THIS AINT REALLY NO BANGIN CITY EXCEPT ON THE SOUTH SIDE WHERE YOU GOT LATIN KINGS, C-14 MP-13'S AND SOME OTHER LATIN FOLK GANGS THAT IS CHICAGO BASED THAT CAN'T RECRUIT ANY MEMBERS

THERE ARE 21( TWO- ONES UP HERE I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE AFFILIATED WITH 21S IN CHICAGO. BACK IN 95/96/96 THEY WORE BLACK AND BLUE OR BLUE AND WHITE AND CALLED THEM SELVES 21 ST GANGTERS I THINK THEY DROPPED THE GANGSTER PART AND BECOME ONLY 2-1

THEY MLDK AND SCK THOUGH THEY NEIGHBORHOODS WERE GETTING ON THE NEWS AND ISH FROM CONCERNED NEIGHBORS ABOUT DRIVE BYS. RIGHT UP THE STREET FROM 21 ST HOODS ARE KINGS ON 16 TH ST 21 GOT A PRETTY WIDE HOOD IN A SMALL AREA<-----THEY ANYBODY KILLA



SOUTH SIDE GANGS:

LATIN KINGS- ALMOST EVERY WHERE ON THE SIDE USED TO RUN THE SOUTH SIDE(THE LOPEZ BROTHERS) BUT INDICTMENTS TO KEY LATIN KING MEMBERS MADE MOST OF THEIR HOODS FALL OFF THEY MAIN HOOD IS 12-ST/ GREENFIELD.

A FEW OLDR SETS WERE(CHICAGO) CAGO KINGS/ 23 RD ST KINGS/ M.O.B KINGS(24TH N GRANT) BAY VIEW KINGS/ 3RD ST KINGS/ 15 ST KINGS/ NASTY BOYS ANBN/

SPANISH COBRAS(HIDING)
M.L.D- NOT MANY IF ANY
21(TWO-ONE)- THEY GOT ALOT OF WHITE BOYS A FEW BLACK ONES

CLANTON 14 ST- CALIFORNIA BASED THEY WEAR BLUE BUT NOT FOLKS OR CRIP THEY RIDE UNDER THE 13

MP- MEXICAN POSSE- THEY WEAR BROWN AND BLACK AND RIDE UNDER THE 13 BUT ARE ENIMES WITH C-14
LF-LA FAMILAS THEY WEAR RED REPRESENT THE NUMBER 4 THROW UP THE 4. THEY HOODS ON 6TH AND GREENFIELD TO LAPHAM OR MITCHELL TO 9TH ST. <---THEY ANYBODY KILLA

UNKNOWN SOUTH SIDE GANGS TO RESIDENTS
GD- HERE AND THERE/LOW KEY
BLACK GANGSTER- ME AND MY COUSINS ON 14TH/15TH AND ORCHARD
BLACK DISCIPLES- 14TH/15TH AND ORCHARD
USED TO BE A BUNDLE OF THEM FROM CHICAGO BACK IN 97 ON 6TH/ MINERAL
VICELORD- SOME KISS UP TO KINGS. ARE USUALLY CATS THAT CLAIM IT IN THE SUMMER SOME KINGS SHOT UP A VICELORD HOUSE ON 13TH / LINCOLN THESE WERE SOME YOUNG NIGGAS WHO DIDNT KNOW WHAT THEY WERE GETTING INTO.

OVERALL ON THE SOUTH SIDE IF YOU BLACK MOST THINK YOU GD ANYWAY THEY ROLE BY THROWING UP CROWNS

[blackmanofhonor]

right,most blacks dont gang bang in the mil although there are plugged niggas here.They just be on they cheese when its funk its mostly over personal issues.Most black niggas that are in mobs in the mil just hustle and get that cheese,its plenty $$$ to be made in the mil

theres plenty young cats false flaggin GD in the mil(not plugged,dont know thier lit) but then again theres alot of real GDs too that dont fuck with them false flaggers


Spanish Cobras arent hiding the po po just did a bust on them last summer I see Cobras alot on the southside most latinos you see with hats to the right be Cobras

theres MLDs here too they just ant as deep as they used to be,they here thou trust me

keefe street still is known in the mil as CVL area,its plenty Lords over there,and I mean true Lords that are connected to chi

[blackmanofhonor]

Milwaukee is known for being a big GD city. What VL branches got demos up there? What they be on? They be clickin with Folks? What's the biggest/most known VL deck up there?

VL UP HERE FROM MY KNOWLEDGE CLICK with KINGS GDS ON THE NORTH SIDE AND SOUTH SIDE EVERY BODY USUALLY BE with EVERY BODY YU KNOW JUST KICKIN IT.
WHEN EVER DRAMA POP OFF THAT GANG ISH USUALLY DON'T COME INTO PLAY UNTIL LATER OR IT MAY HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH SETS DRUGS MONEY OR HOODRATS(SETS,WHICH IS ONLY OF FEW UP HERE THAT ARE ORGANIZED

LIKE 2-6 26TH STREET FROM BURLEIGH TO CENTER ST. MY BROTHER IS A GD FROM THAT SET. I MET SOME REAL AS GD 'S OLD SCHOOL,AINT TO MANY REAL ANYMORE JUST LITTLE NIGGAZ RUNNING AROUND CLAIMING ISH FOR NOTHING. AND 9 X OUT OF TEN THESE SAME NIGGAS A BE GETTING CHASE BY LATIN KINGS ON THE SOUTH SIDE AFTER SCHOOL OR THEY'LL FALSE FLAGG SAYING THEY VL OR SOMETHING BUT YO ONE DAY THESE KINGSK GONNA REALIZE THAT VICELORDS AND KINGS AINT FAM AND THESE GD THAT FALSE FLAGG OR VL NIGGAS THAT BE OVA THERE GONE GET CAUGHT SLIPPING.
CAUSE IN CHICAGO THEY PRETTY MUCH HATE EACH OTHER BUT THEY FAMILY WITH BLACK P STONES

KEEFE AVENUE 6TH ON DOWN TO 1ST BACK IN 95/96/97/98 DON'T NOW ABOUT NOW USED TO BE VICELORD CITY MOST HAVE FELL OFF OR EITHER LOCKED UP.<--- I GOT A FEW CATS I GREW UP with FROM DOWN THERE ON 1ST AND TOWNSEND..


BUT DAMN, THATS KNOWN IN CHICAGO? THE THING ABOUT MIL-TOWN BEING GD CITY?THIS AINT REALLY NO BANGIN CITY EXCEPT ON THE SOUTH SIDE WHERE YOU GOT LATIN KINGS, C-14 MP-13'S AND SOME OTHER LATIN FOLK GANGS THAT IS CHICAGO BASED THAT CAN'T RECRUIT ANY MEMBERS

THERE ARE 21( TWO- ONES UP HERE I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE AFFILIATED WITH 21S IN CHICAGO. BACK IN 95/96/96 THEY WORE BLACK AND BLUE OR BLUE AND WHITE AND CALLED THEM SELVES 21 ST GANGTERS I THINK THEY DROPPED THE GANGSTER PART AND BECOME ONLY 2-1

THEY MLDK AND SCK THOUGH THEY NEIGHBORHOODS WERE GETTING ON THE NEWS AND ISH FROM CONCERNED NEIGHBORS ABOUT DRIVE BYS. RIGHT UP THE STREET FROM 21 ST HOODS ARE KINGS ON 16 TH ST 21 GOT A PRETTY WIDE HOOD IN A SMALL AREA<-----THEY ANYBODY KILLA



SOUTH SIDE GANGS:

LATIN KINGS- ALMOST EVERY WHERE ON THE SIDE USED TO RUN THE SOUTH SIDE(THE LOPEZ BROTHERS) BUT INDICTMENTS TO KEY LATIN KING MEMBERS MADE MOST OF THEIR HOODS FALL OFF THEY MAIN HOOD IS 12-ST/ GREENFIELD.

A FEW OLDR SETS WERE(CHICAGO) CAGO KINGS/ 23 RD ST KINGS/ M.O.B KINGS(24TH N GRANT) BAY VIEW KINGS/ 3RD ST KINGS/ 15 ST KINGS/ NASTY BOYS ANBN/

I think you mean Kagel Kings,not cago Kings.Kagel was a deep old school LK set in the mil

Nasty Boys arent kings


back in the days the MLDs had bay view on lock

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right,most blacks dont gang bang in the mil although there are plugged niggas here.They just be on they cheese when its funk its mostly over personal issues.Most black niggas that are in mobs in the mil just hustle and get that cheese,its plenty $$$ to be made in the mil

theres plenty young cats false flaggin GD in the mil(not plugged,dont know thier lit) but then again theres alot of real GDs too that dont fu-- with them false flaggers


Spanish Cobras arent hiding the po po just did a bust on them last summer I see Cobras alot on the southside most latinos you see with hats to the right be Cobras

theres MLDs here too they just ant as deep as they used to be,they here thou trust me

keefe street still is known in the mil as CVL area,its plenty Lords over there,and I mean true Lords that are connected to chi

i remember when i first move onto the south side in 94 i saw some graffiti you know the heart, devils horns and tail and the swastika in the middle i almost crossed it out but a pr dude told me the swastika sits up a different way but in reality no body gives a flying fukk which way it sits its a swas and you know the fist thing comes to mind when they don't know

[blackmanofhonor]

MLDs have thier own concept for the swastica,it has nothing to do with nazi shit

just like GDs and BDs have the six point star but it has nothing to do with jews

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theres plenty young cats false flaggin GD in the mil(not plugged,dont know thier lit) but then again theres alot of real GDs too that dont fu-- with them false flaggers

Spanish Cobras arent hiding the po po just did a bust on them last summer I see Cobras alot on the southside most latinos you see with hats to the right be Cobras

theres MLDs here too they just ant as deep as they used to be

>>as far as the flase flaggers and wnakstas thats the gd's leaders fault to me from letting it get outta hand every other city i go niggaz is on they ish even in madison.

spanish cobras they have a house on 10th and greenfield not gonna say which one my cous used to hang with em they looked grimey(young) and they were also bitchez i have a hat with an diamond and infinite upside down they looked but i was not trying to start stuff after all i did not write it they though i was 2-1


mld- something happened at my ex girl house her sister boyfriend is a MLD from what he told me he said alot of D'z FLIPPED to almighty simon city royals. don't know what for but at her house on 15th and madison there are alot of insane unknowns that be there and that probably was the beef b2ween her sister friend(mld) and why her ass is locked up now you know the rules of probation..

[blackmanofhonor]

hella niggas claim GD without knowing the lit or being plugged in the mil now.theres alot of real GDs in the mil too thou,but from what I see they have no concern with trying to teach the young false flaggers anything.They just clown em or say ''if they go to the joint they catchin an ass whooping'' or ''if they go to the chi blah blah''

but then again,mufuggas shouldnt claim something they dont know about.

[blackmanofhonor]

I heard them GDs off hopkins will beat that a$$ if you go over there and dont know the lit

[Casper]

MLDs have thier own concept for the swastica,it has nothing to do with nazi shit

just like GDs and BDs have the six point star but it has nothing to do with jews

Yeah the swastika for the MLD's is honoring theyre 1st leader Albert"Hitler"Hernandez

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hmmph hitler huh wow!

[lordwhizv]

SOUTH SIDE RUN IT-VLN-ALMIGHTY

[getmoe]

IVLN INSANE VICE LORD NATION THE BIGGEST BRANCH IN MICHIGAN I KNOW BEEN ONE FOR 17YRS.