TheReal wrote:This is in response to sondoobie, and the guy above me:
-mangler its not the HISPANIC FAMILY VALUE SYSTEM, its the younger generations.
*Man that's bullshyt, MOST MEXICANS ARE RACIST, AND THINK THEY'RE BETTER THAN BLACKS, AND YOU KNOW THIS!! Fools like you pacify the black community into thinking that most mexicans aren't racist (or latently racist, or potentially racist) just so that you can put black folks to sleep, in regards to many of your own brethren!! As I said before, mexican racists are no different than white supremacists, BECAUSE OF THEIR ACTIONS AND THEIR DEALINGS WITH BLACK PEOPLE, AS WELL AS THEIR DESIRE TO DESTROY, OR AT THE VERY LEAST CONTAIN BLACK PEOPLE! IN THE END THEYARE ONE AND THE SAME!!
Try pulling the wool over someone else's eyes fool, because my eyes are wide opened!!
-Again if none of you have ever been to jail, then how are you gonna speak on it?
*Well I can speak on it!!!
-There is no alliance with whites in jail. Period!
*Again, you're just like the lying spanish conquistador, whose lying blood you are full of!!!! You know damn well that this is a lie!!! MEXICANS DO HAVE ALLIANCES WITH THE ARYAN BROTHERHOOD, AND OTHER WHITE SUPREMACIST ORGANIZATIONS!!! Man who do you think you're fooling????
-Ese's in the joint have a working relationship with them.
*Well hell!!! What do you think that is? AN ALLIANCE!!! As I said before, the fact that you fools have an alliance with those devils, tell me as much as I need to know about racist mexicans, and their white supremacist mentalities!! You have plenty of your own people complain about how white folks favor black people over any other non-black, or white person, when in reality your people and white folks are kindred spirits.
Folks like you don't really believe that whites favor blacks over mexicans, but what gets your craw is the fact that black people have obtained a semblance of success, due to their blood, sweat, and tears, and that anything that blacks have attained-regardless of whether they deserve it or not-or any largesse that they receive from the white man, you feel really ought to go towards mexicans! Why? Because your people feel that blacks don't deserve anything, for the simple fact that they are black, therefore at the bottom of the racial hierarchy! And your people also feel that whites ought to favor you, because of that very fact, in addition to your two groups being kindred spirits!!
As I said before on many occasions-BLACKS OUGHTN'T FEEL GUILTY ABOUT A DAMN THING IN REGARDS TO MEXICANS PLIGHT AND STRUGGLES, SEEING AS HOW MEXICANS COLLECTIVELY HATE BLACK PEOPLE! Not even mentioning the fact that they have alliances with armenian gangs, white supremacists and neo-nazis! Right there it tells me that whites and mexicans grievances with one another is tantamount to a mere interfamily squabble, and that black people ought to view and perceive the mexican, the same way they would a white racist devil!
-Not to long ago, ese's and white boyz were goin at it cause some ese's rat packed some snitch.
*Again, interfamily squabble. FOOL, YOUR PEOPLE AND THE "white boyz" been allied with one another for over the past thirty years!!! You can't pick several incidences where your people had skirmishes with some "white boyz", and compare it to the BATTLES AND WARS, that you ese's and those "white boyz", have inflicted upon the black population!!!
You see, many of you fools are always trying to make everything relative, and compare the evil that you racist mexican devils, and your brothers-the white racist devils-do, with what blacks do, or would do!!! First of all, many blacks, even those who live amidst you racist mexican, fork-tongued devils, still are in a state of shock that your own people have such vehement hatred for them, despite the venom that your people are constantly spewing their way!!! Many of them (blacks) have been brainwashed into thinking that mexicans are really cool, but they've just been deceived and exploited by the system, to attack their minority brother man (black folks), instead of the other man (white folks).
Oh but how wrong black folks are!! The truth of the matter is, that mexicans collectively (not individually) are like fifth column moles, who when it's to their advantage, ingratiate themselves within the black community, even having a couple of black homies!! Many of them will even down the "system" and its' racist proclivities!! However, these same fools, when it's to their advantage-particularly when they have the numbers, or when it's feasible-align themselves with white supremacists, and other racist white devils-AT THE DROP OF A HAT!!
-And you quoteing ice cube who keeps his ass in hiding and ain't never banged on the street?..lol..homie you need more substance then that.
*This is a red herring and filibuster argument fool!! AND YOU KNOW THIS!
-There are a lot of Chicanos/Hispanics/Ese's/Mexicans that are cool with the brothers.
*I agree! Likewise you have a lot of white folks "cool with the brothers", however, it doesn't take away, nor detract from the fact that the amidst the white population, and the mexican population, are racists that are hell-bent on black folks destruction!! In a lot of ways mexicans that are cool with black people, can be black folks worst enemy, in the sense that it anesthesize, and pacify black folks into thinking critically about the racism that mexicans harbor towards black people, and how it truly comes to play, in the broader scheme of things!!
Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with a black person having a mexican friend, however, mexicans who are friends of black people, either 1) downplay the very true racist feelings that many of their own people harbor towards black people; and 2) never hold their own people, nor criticize their own people in regards to their racism towards black people! YOU KNOW WHY? Because many mexicans (not all), even those who claim non-racist status, view mexican hatred and discrimination against black people as a necessary evil and virtue, that is needed, in order to fully attain MEXICAN/CHICANO DOMINATION!!!
In other words, they may be latently racist, potentially racist, or not racist at all, but they're looking at the bigger picture, particularly if they have aztlanista tendencies!!! So yeah, some mexicans may have individual love for some black homies, and may even personally give their lives for their INDIVIDUAL black homies, BUT IT STILL WOULDN'T COMPEL THEM TO ATTACK AND CRITIQUE THEIR OWN PEOPLE'S RACISM, AND HOW IT SUBSEQUENTLY MANIFESTS ITSELF-IN REGARDS TO BLACK PEOPLE!!!
-But then you have people like stone talking shyt about spilling beans on the street, what do you think is gonna be me or someone elses reaction?
*First off, I disagree with stone's statement, secondly, in a lot of ways it doesn't matter about the "reaction"! Why? Because racist mexicans are going to, and were going to hate black people, regardless of any statements put forth by stone-whether it be good, or bad! Many mexicans, when it comes to black folks-ARE HATERS WITHOUT A CAUSE!!!
-Like I said before, if you know that ese's are racists and you know it is MAINLY towards black gangs, then why join a gang? It's simple, don't get involved.
*MAN YOU ARE ONE CRAFTY DEVIL ARE YOU!!!!! Black folks have a right to form and join gangs (not that they ought to) just like the next man, or woman!! Black people ought to have the self-determination, and a sense of their own peoplehood, when it comes to determining their gang status!! What it is devil, is that you want black folks under the feet of mexicans!! Mexicans are always trying to thwart, destroy and contain black masculinity, because they want to be top dogs!!!
That's why many of your people perform rap music, and other genres of black music; listen to black music, walk black, talk black, utilize black gestures and mannerisms!!! That's another reason why many of your own people bytch and moan about how the media is only focusing in on black folks, when it comes to street culture, BECAUSE YOU FOOLS WANT TO BE VIEWED AND BAD_SSES TOO!!!!
Truth be told, that's one of the reasons why mexican gangs are targeting black folks wantonly (even those that aren't in gangs), just because you're trying to uproot and destroy any remembrance, or semblance of black masculine bodies, whose cultural flow, and flavor, MANY OF YOUR OWN PEOPLE MIMIC, COPY AND APPROPRIATE!! You see, you want to, just like your racist spanish ancestors, destroy and contain black folks, so that they won't be constant reminders to yourself and to the world, where much of your masculine flavor comes from!!! It's all about ego and machismo!!!
Black gangs, though in many ways are negative, and inappropriate, is a representative to many of you fools, as the last bastion of black unity and masculinity: something your people is trying to eradicate. That's why when you tell young black men not to join gangs, YOU HAVE ANOTHER MOTIVE WHICH IS EVIL AND SUBVERSIVE!! You're not really concerned about black lives, rather you want them out of the gangs, so that it will lead to mexican/chicano domination, far more easily!!!
Devils like you don't want black folks organized, and you fear the capability that a black gang can attain, once they focus more so on positive objectives!! You don't want black gangs to invoke revolutionary initiatives, and unite, while forming defense organizations against hostile mexicans and white people-SIMILAR TO THE PANTHERS!!!
What your proposing is tantamount to a white person telling black folks to just be "good niggers", and not be so radical, or out there, and the good ol' boys (white racists) may not target you as harshly!! Just stay in your place, eat your grits and chicken wings, and everything will be fine!!!!
Like hell it is, and just as blacks had to battle issues of racism and oppression in the 20th century as a minority, we likewise have to do so in the 21st century!! Just now, we have to expand the definition of a non-black oppressor, and not only look at the white man, but at mexicans, or hispanics in general with a white supremacist/amerindian/hispanidad agenda!
-There are plenty of good, hard working Latinos in the Los that have respect for everyone, no matter what color. Anyways homeboy, alrato
*These folks are becoming few and far between, even those that are hardworkers!
I AM A MEXICAN WHO WILL TRULY ,HONESTLY AND WITHOUT HESITATION ADMIT TO HIS FEELINGS TOWARDS BLACK PEOPLE-HOWEVER I WILL TELL YOU THAT -IN ALL REALITY I DONT SEE THE SITUATION INTENSIFYING BUT RATHER DEFLATING.THROUGHOUT THE BIGGEST WAR YEARS OF BLACK/BROWN.....THE MID90'S AND LATE 90S ....BLACK AND MEXICAN GANGS WERE GOING AT IT BIGTIME-COMPTON-TF/PIRUS......LB CRIPS/LONGOS.....SOUTHLOS/HOOVERS....18 AND BPS.....F13/ECC AND EVEN SHITHOLE LITTLE CITIES LIKE SAN PEDRO AND DCC......EVERYWERE!THE SHIT HAS REALLY DIED DOWN AS SHOWED IN THE NUMBER OF HOMICIDES DROPPING IN LA COUNTY PERIOD.I ASLO BELIEVE THAT MANY OF THOSE BLACK GANGS THAT WERE GOING AT IT HAVE BEEN PRETTY MUCH MASHED ON.MANY CLICKS OF ECC DONT EVEN EXIST ANYMORE.THE HOOVERS FEW CLICKS WERE SMASHED ON BY THE LOS'.THE UNITY OF MEXICAN GANGS HAS FALLEN APART -38TH STREET AND THE F13 PEACE TREATYS FELL APART THUS TAKING GUNS AND SOLDIERS AWAY FROM THE BLACK/BROWN CONFLICT AND DIRECTING THEIR LEAD ON ANOTHER FRONT -GANGWARFARE JUST LKE MODERN WARFARE IS SIMILIAR IN THAT SPLITTING YOUR TROOPS TO FIGHT ON DIFFERENT FRONTS MAKES THE FIGHT WEAKER AND LESS HOSTILE.IN FACT THE ENTIRE ATTITUDE OF KIDS IN LA HAS CHANGED TO WERE GANG BANGING AND KILLING ISNT AS POPULAR AS IT USED TO BE!EVEN THE WOMEN ARE SHYING AWAY FROM THE CHOLOS AND THUGS-I BELIEVE THAT ALTHOUGH DYING DOWN ONE SPARK OF FIRE CAN AND MAY IGNITE A WHOLE POWDER KEG OF EMOTION .SAY A SURENO ROLLS INTO A BLACK CHURCH AND STARTS BLASTING ....BELIEVE ME --I SEE A DAM RACE WAR IN THIS CITY.