White People, Now, Then, and Forever The Worlds Minority

[Yarbrough25163]

Well identity is a natural thing. Everyone has to identitfy with something, be it as a man, woman, etc. Here is the thing everyone acts like being of a paticular race shouldn't be an issue. When the fact of the matter is race has always been an issue. You or anyone else can lie and say that race doesn't matter but the truth is race has always mattered especially in America. When did race not matter? Race mattered in America since europeans came here and killed indians and took their land. Race mattered during the African slave trade. Race matter during the reconstruction era. Race mattered during the civil rights era. And race even mattered during this past presidential election. President Obama is half black and half white. Do you think anyone sees him as just white? or just black? Or do they see him as both? They don't see him as both from either black people or white people. They see him as a black man. They see him as the first "BLACK" president, not first bi-racial president. Im not saying all people in America think this way, i know there are some that "try" not to see color, but it's really hard when color is part of identity. So when ever i speak about people of different colors, or about racism, i'm only speaking about the reality of the situation. And for the record i neversaid anyone was "Brainwashed". You drew that conclusion yourself. If thats what you got from what i said then that's what you got, not what i said. People in America, and from what i have encountered mostly other races that aren't consider black people, act like race all of a sudden doesn't matter when race in America has always been something that people don't want to confront because they are afraid of the problems that come with it. Acting like something doesn't exsist doesn't mean it doesn't exsist. Like i said before, if white American's who weren't the actual slave masters or enslavers of black Americans, would just give justice to Black America, and fix this problem then we as black people would have nothing to complain about. I as a Black man would like black people to do for self and not depend on white America for a prepetual welfare-slavery state. This doesn't mean that white America should do nothing towards give "EQUAL JUSTICE", and right the wrong that was done, because that much is owed to us because of the condition that we are in as a result of slavery. And don't try to say that they do because either you out of touch with reality or your being cynical. When i say help right the wrong i mean reverse the sterotypes, admit the racism, equal education, equal housing, actual funding, and the erradication of the Wille Lynch method, and the de-criminalization of blacks, stop the false imprisionment of blacks. I think just like America has given money to the Japanesse for being inprisioned in interment camps during World War 2, and just like the Jews recieved a homeland in Israel as a result of the Holocaust, i believe that we as a result of 400 years of chattel slavery i think that we as decendants of slaves should recieve some land here in America. If we as black people had our own land which should include two or three states, with access to the sea . We would no longer be Americas problem. Let us have our own and let us do for ourselves. But America won't do that. I ask you this question WHISKEY don't you think America was wrong for what they did to blacks during slavery? Dont you think we as blacks are owed not special programs or pacifiying gifts but true reparations? If not why? Don't you believe that even though the whites that are here living in America, or at least the American goverment should right the wrongs done by your ancestors, to my ancestors? Seeing how America and most whites are in a priviledged postion because of slavery? Thats justice! And as i said before if America doesn't give black people in America justice the God Himself will give us justice! God will give us our justice one way or another. That is the law of nature. I can tell you this, white America doen'st want what was done to us to happen to them!

[perongregory]

Race didn't always matter, it started to matter around the time of the slave trade and the Europeans coming to the Americas. In the old world your ethnicity mattered.

[Azure9920]

Race didn't always matter, it started to matter around the time of the slave trade and the Europeans coming to the Americas. In the old world your ethnicity mattered.

While ancient civilizations certainly didn't have the genetic knowledge we possess today, distinctions in human variation were still as important to the Athenians in the 3rd century BC as they are to modern day people.

[Sentenza]

While ancient civilizations certainly didn't have the genetic knowledge we possess today, distinctions in human variation were still as important to the Athenians in the 3rd century BC as they are to modern day people.

You are not going to find the mention of races or their importance before the 16th/17th century. People will talk about different ethnicities. But you wont find anything like the race talk of our time. Because its a modern invention. Thats why they mixed like there was no tomorrow back in the days.

It was invented then and nowadays we think it means something.

[Azure9920]

You are not going to find the mention of races or their importance before the 16th/17th century. People will talk about different ethnicities. But you wont find anything like the race talk of our time. Because its a modern invention. Thats why they mixed like there was no tomorrow back in the days.

It was invented then and nowadays we think it means something.

The concept of race as we know it may not have been coined until much later, but there are countless examples of ancient cultures recording differences in physical and cultural appearance. Of course the knowledge back then was nowhere near as advanced as our knowledge of race today, so obviously you cannot expect a great understanding of race in antiquity - but to think that say, the Mediterranean peoples of Northern Africa did not encounter Black Africans(and vice versa) with negative feelings is absurd and defies human nature.

[Sentenza]

The concept of race as we know it may not have been coined until much later, but there are countless examples of ancient cultures recording differences in physical and cultural appearance. Of course the knowledge back then was nowhere near as advanced as our knowledge of race today, so obviously you cannot expect a great understanding of race in antiquity - but to think that say, the Mediterranean peoples of Northern Africa did not encounter Black Africans(and vice versa) with negative feelings is absurd and defies human nature.

Nope. Because they met, mixed and didnt care. They didnt judge or think it meant something. Modern genetics prove it.
The Gene pool of North Africans, Arabs and Southern Europeans is a wild mix of Blacks, Browns and Whites.
Which would be a no go for many today despite the fact that it already happened.

[Sentenza]

Interesting article:

What Race Were the Ancient Egyptians?

Four peoples of the world:
Syrian, Nubian, Libyan, and Egyptian.



Race is a notoriously nebulous concept. Before a physical property can be scientifically examined, it must be objectively defined so that accurate measurements of variables can be made. Defining race has been based on subjective taxonomic classification, morphological interpretation, and physiognomic characteristics, exercises that are frighteningly akin to phrenology. Race has yet to be defined in objective genetic terms that are quantifiably measurable, rendering attempts at truly scientific discussion hopelessly futile.

The fact remains that the human race is of a single species. Historically, races were first assumed to exist, then they were recognized, then described, and lastly classified, an unscientific and arbitrary method at best. Race was first applied to the realm of natural history in 1749 when Buffon described six groups of man. Critics came early and in 1784, Herder wrote:

Some for instance have thought it fit to employ the term races for four or five divisions, originally made in consequence of country or complexion: but I see no reason for this appellation. Race refers to a difference of origin, which in this case does not exist, or in each of those countries, and under each of these complexions, comprises the most different races... In short, there are neither four or five races, nor exclusive varieties, on this Earth. Complexions run into each other: forms follow the genetic character: and upon the whole, all are last but shades of the same great picture, extending through all ages, and over all parts of the earth. They belong not, therefore, so properly to systematic natural history, as to the physicogeographical history of man. [von Herder, Johann Gottfried, Ideas Toward a Philosophy of History, 1784]

More here: http://www.catchpenny.org/race.html

[Yarbrough25163]

The Egyptian one looks black to me. When i say black i don't just mean dark skinned like the nubian in the picture. Black people are brown skinned as well as yellow skinned. Its funny that most people don't know that the original native americans that lived here before white people would be considered black as well. Black is not limited to just really dark skin. So would argue that the indians were red skinned but still even the quote red man would be considered black to me. Well better yet let me rephrase that i will say they all are origianl people. The orginal people are the black, red, brown, and yellow. The people who are not original are the white european. Its funny how the majority of people think that the people of ancient Kemet(Egypt) weren't black. Especially since everyone from that land even in Arabia which was at that time part of the Kemetic empire. I guess everyone assumes that the borders that we see on a map today exsisted just like that during the rule of Kemites. And Kemet means "black land", which was not only because the actual land was black but because the people who dwelled there were black as well. It wasn't till the Europeans came to Kemet and sought to erase the history of the ancient people of the land. Just like they did to the ancient maya and inca people of south america. I.E. breaking the noses off of statues defacing them, lightening the compexlicions, and drawing pictures of whites on tomb walls. Like Napoleon shooting the nose off of the Sphinx. The white Europeans track record of destroying civilizations and colonizing them is only proof that they were a new people to these civilizations. Were as most of the civilizations had knowledge already of each other. Only the white European was different to the ancient peoples of the world. Kemet actually started in Sudan,Ethiopia,the Umo Valley of Rwanda, and strected as far as Arabia and to parts of what is modern day Israel. But many would have people today to believe that Kemet (which was named Egypt by the Greeks), wasn't even in Africa. The arab people that are living in what is now modern Egypt are not the same people that were there during ancient Kemet. In ancient days black people were not limited to central and southern Africa. They infact inhabited all of the continent as well as parts of Asia.

[Sentenza]

The Egyptian one looks black to me. When i say black i don't just mean dark skinned like the nubian in the picture. Black people are brown skinned as well as yellow skinned. Its funny that most people don't know that the original native americans that lived here before white people would be considered black as well. Black is not limited to just really dark skin. So would argue that the indians were red skinned but still even the quote red man would be considered black to me. Well better yet let me rephrase that i will say they all are origianl people. The orginal people are the black, red, brown, and yellow. The people who are not original are the white european. Its funny how the majority of people think that the people of ancient Kemet(Egypt) weren't black. Especially since everyone from that land even in Arabia which was at that time part of the Kemetic empire. I guess everyone assumes that the borders that we see on a map today exsisted just like that during the rule of Kemites. And Kemet means "black land", which was not only because the actual land was black but because the people who dwelled there were black as well. It wasn't till the Europeans came to Kemet and sought to erase the history of the ancient people of the land. Just like they did to the ancient maya and inca people of south america. I.E. breaking the noses off of statues defacing them, lightening the compexlicions, and drawing pictures of whites on tomb walls. Like Napoleon shooting the nose off of the Sphinx. The white Europeans track record of destroying civilizations and colonizing them is only proof that they were a new people to these civilizations. Were as most of the civilizations had knowledge already of each other. Only the white European was different to the ancient peoples of the world. Kemet actually started in Sudan,Ethiopia,the Umo Valley of Rwanda, and strected as far as Arabia and to parts of what is modern day Israel. But many would have people today to believe that Kemet (which was named Egypt by the Greeks), wasn't even in Africa. The arab people that are living in what is now modern Egypt are not the same people that were there during ancient Kemet. In ancient days black people were not limited to central and southern Africa. They infact inhabited all of the continent as well as parts of Asia.

To be perfectly honest i think half of the stuff you are writing are conspiracdy theories.
Europeans never came to "Kemet" before the time of the Greeks and Romans and the ancient Egyptians were mixed people already by then. Mixed people with african roots, but Semitic and European influence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Eg ... cholarship

"Kemet" meant black land because of the black mud the Nile left behind after a its annual flooding. The whole land was "black" then. Why should Egyptians refer to them in racial terms when race and color of skin didnt matter back then? It sounds totally like a term of the 20th century being placed into a time where it doesnt belong.

Native Americans were nowhere near black and never have been. They are of Central asian origin more closely related to Mongols, then to anyone else.



And Napoleon didnt shoot off the nose of the Sphinx:

We can conclude that the nose was gone by 1737 at the latest; thus its removal can not be blamed on Napoleon's troops, who visited more than 50 years later.

http://www.catchpenny.org/nose.html

The red people emerged about the same time white people emerged in Europe. Asians are second oldest to blacks who were the first on this planet. In any way we are all brothers, so it doesnt matter, but i am just saying.

European people werent any more violent then any other people on earth. The first genocide in this world was committed by Assyrians, Middle Eastern and Asian Cultures slaughtered each other, North and South America was home to warlike kingdoms, Africas tribal warfares still plague the continent today and europeans slaughtered more other europeans then anyone else, considering the holocaust, WW1, WW2 and all the other countless wars in Europe.
Its just human nature to be like that.
We need to evolve some more before we have it figured out how to get along peacefully id say.

[Silencioso]

The concept of race as we know it may not have been coined until much later, but there are countless examples of ancient cultures recording differences in physical and cultural appearance. Of course the knowledge back then was nowhere near as advanced as our knowledge of race today, so obviously you cannot expect a great understanding of race in antiquity - but to think that say, the Mediterranean peoples of Northern Africa did not encounter Black Africans(and vice versa) with negative feelings is absurd and defies human nature.

Nope. Because they met, mixed and didnt care. They didnt judge or think it meant something. Modern genetics prove it.
The Gene pool of North Africans, Arabs and Southern Europeans is a wild mix of Blacks, Browns and Whites.
Which would be a no go for many today despite the fact that it already happened.

Southern Europeans aren't a wild mix of black, brown and white! That's just some NorthernEuropean/Anglo-Saxon BS racism. Southern Euros on average have like 2% black and 0% East Asian dna based on dna studies. Is that mixed?

[Azure9920]

Nope. Because they met, mixed and didnt care. They didnt judge or think it meant something. Modern genetics prove it.
The Gene pool of North Africans, Arabs and Southern Europeans is a wild mix of Blacks, Browns and Whites.
Which would be a no go for many today despite the fact that it already happened.

Well, modern genetics says you're wrong.

For Northern Africans, the percentage of Sub-Saharan DNA is under 10%, and a relatively recent admixture.

Like the other guy said, White Europeans are nearly 100% racially homogeneous.

[Sentenza]

Southern Europeans aren't a wild mix of black, brown and white! That's just some NorthernEuropean/Anglo-Saxon BS racism. Southern Euros on average have like 2% black and 0% East Asian dna based on dna studies. Is that mixed?

In 2008, two international research teams published analyses of large-scale genotyping of large samples of Europeans, utilising using over 300, 000 autosomal SNPs. With the exception of usual isolates such as Basques, Finns and Sardinians, the European population lacked sharp discontinuities (clustering) as previous studies have found (see Seldin et al. 2006 and Bauchett et al. 2007), although there was a discernible south to north gradient.

[...]

In addition, they found that diversity was greatest in southern Europe due a larger effective population size and/or population expansion from southern to northern Europe

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_hi ... _of_Europe

In historical times, there has been a well-documented period of North African influence in Southern Europe, especially Iberia and Sicily during the time of the Islamic Golden Age. The genetic effect of this period on modern European populations is the subject of on-going discussion (see below). In more recent history, the peoples of Europe and Africa came into contact during the, the exploration and colonisation of Africa and as a consequence of the Atlantic slave trade.[7] As a result of these recent contacts, lineages of African descent have also been detected in Europe. In general, African admixture is distributed along a South-to-North cline, with peaks in the Mediterranean region and Iberia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_ad ... ric_period

DNAPrint Genomics offers AncestryByDNA a test which measures a person's "biogeographical ancestry" in terms of percent Indo-European, East Asian, Sub-Saharan African and Native American.

A surprising outcome of their testing so far is that about one out of three Caucasians have significant Native American and East Asian ancestry.

Later, in the 1st and 2nd millennia AD, the tide reversed and movements of peoples from the Eurasian steppes invaded Europe. Some of these were initiated from as far east as Mongolia, but the vast majority of men would be drawn from the Caucasoid and Caucasoid-Mongoloid people of Asia. These invasions involved males, who do not pass on their (potentially Mongoloid) mtDNA to their children. Hence, partially Mongoloid males could have been absorbed without much evidence in terms of Y chromosome or mtDNA markers of East Asian origin.

http://dienekes.50webs.com/blog/archives/000208.html

To show you what a mix North africans are:

Tunisian Soccer team:



Morocco:



Algeria:



White people went to northern africa and mixed. Black and brown people went to souther europe and mixed. The most normal thing in the world.

[Sentenza]

Well, modern genetics says you're wrong.

For Northern Africans, the percentage of Sub-Saharan DNA is under 10%, and a relatively recent admixture.

Like the other guy said, White Europeans are nearly 100% racially homogeneous.

Nope. There is no such thing as racial homogeneity.



Whereever you have a core population of a certain ethnic group, on the rim of this group where people interact they always mix.
Look at some countries.

Ill take somem ore sports teams to make my point:

The Kazakh bowling team:



In Kazakhstan Asian, European and Middle Eastern people share borders.

Saudi Arabian Soccer team:



In Saudi Arabia, the Middle East and Africa have always met and mixed.

Or other examples:

Three random turkish people:







Turks are a mix of Northern Europeans, Southern Europeans, the Balkans, the Middle East and Central Asia. All these people met there, settled there and mixed there. These are not immigrants, but native turkish people. The first one is the founder of modern turkey.
I can show you many more examples.

But i know that race is like a religion, people will always believe in it no matter what you say and im not trying to tell anyone what to think, but my mind is made up about this issue.

[whiskeyjack]

A surprising outcome of their testing so far is that about one out of three Caucasians have significant Native American and East Asian ancestry.

were i live almost 2 out of 3 whites here have native american blood in them....

[whiskeyjack]

I ask you this question WHISKEY don't you think America was wrong for what they did to blacks during slavery? Dont you think we as blacks are owed not special programs or pacifiying gifts but true reparations? If not why?

i think what has happened in the past is terrible...

No i dont think blacks are entitled to special programmes and reparations, m,y government has been doing that sinces its creation for the natives of Canada, and it hasnt done a thing. They blame white people for not getting enough money when in fact they get tons, its just not distrubuted well... We give them alot of rights which they abuse....

Don't you believe that even though the whites that are here living in America, or at least the American goverment should right the wrongs done by your ancestors, to my ancestors?

my anscestors havent shot a native or enslaved a black person please dont assume these things because im white...

[Azure9920]

Dobre, all three of those haplogroups are Caucasian.

[Sentenza]

Dobre, all three of those haplogroups are Caucasian.

Haplogroup R (M207, M306) Found in Europe, West Asia, Central Asia, and South Asia

Haplogroup R is defined by the SNP M207. The bulk of Haplogroup R is represented in lineages R1a and R1b. R1a likely originated in the Eurasian Steppes, and is associated with the Kurgan culture and Proto-Indo-European expansion. It is primarily found in Central Asia, South Asia, and the Slavic peoples of Eastern Europe. R1b probably originated in Central Asia. It is the dominant haplogroup of Western Europe and also found sparsely distributed among various peoples of Asia and Africa.

Haplogroup I (M170, M258) Found in Europe and parts of the Near East

Haplogroup E1b1b (M215) Found in East Africa, North Africa, the Middle East, and Europe (especially in areas near the Mediterranean); formerly E3b

The groups descending from haplogroup F are found in some 90% of the world's population, but almost exclusively outside of sub-Saharan Africa.

Haplogroup G (M201) ca. 30 ka Found in many ethnic groups in Eurasia; most common in the Caucasus, the Iranian plateau, and Anatolia; in Europe mainly in Greece, Italy, Iberia, the Tyrol, as well as Bohemia, Moravia; very rare in Northern Europe[1][2]

In human genetics, Haplogroup J evolved in the ancient Near East and was then carried into North Africa, Europe, Central Asia, and South Asia.

Haplogroup K (M9) Found in New Guinea, Australia

Haplogroup L (M20) Found in South Asia, Central Asia, Southwest Asia, the Mediterranean

These are the groups mentioned on the map.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Y-ch ... haplogroup

[Azure9920]

That's nice Sentenza, but Dobre's map of Europe included R, I and E3 groups, which are all Caucasoid haplogroups.

[Silencioso]

Southern Europeans aren't racially mixed in the sense that most Latinos and Central Asian people are mixed. South Western Euros (Spaniards, Portuguese, Sicilians, Corsicans...)are all 95% + caucasoid, some like the Basque people are more than that. Balkans Slavs like Slovenians, Croatians etc seem like the same basic racial stock as C. Europeans so I doubt they're any more mixed than Austrians or Bavarian (probably less actually). Caucasus Mtn. people are solidly Caucasoid except for the Azerbajain. Even Turks are 90% caucasoid based on dna studies.

No offense Sentenza but I've seen German and Austrian people that looked as Asian as some of those Kazakh people in that picture you posted. I think Central Europeans are a "wild mix" of yellow, white and red races.LOL

[Sentenza]

Southern Europeans aren't racially mixed in the sense that most Latinos and Central Asian people are mixed. South Western Euros (Spaniards, Portuguese, Sicilians, Corsicans...)are all 95% + caucasoid, some like the Basque people are more than that. Balkans Slavs like Slovenians, Croatians etc seem like the same basic racial stock as C. Europeans so I doubt they're any more mixed than Austrians or Bavarian (probably less actually). Caucasus Mtn. people are solidly Caucasoid except for the Azerbajain. Even Turks are 90% caucasoid based on dna studies.

No offense Sentenza but I've seen German and Austrian people that looked as Asian as some of those Kazakh people in that picture you posted. I think Central Europeans are a "wild mix" of yellow, white and red races.LOL

Well there is no such thing as racial purity. As you can see on the map All europeans have also central asian, middle eastern and many have south asian genes and so on. Thats just the way it is. Its a big illusion.

[Azure9920]

Well there is no such thing as racial purity. As you can see on the map All europeans have also central asian, middle eastern and many have south asian genes and so on. Thats just the way it is. Its a big illusion.

There are no significant amounts of Asian or Black genetic markers anywhere in Europe. The highest frequency is found in Southern Portugal and it's only 8% - and that's from black slaves that the Moors brought there. Even in North Africa, there is only a 5% admixture of Sub-Saharan DNA markers and a likely even lower percent of Asian admixture as well. There is no evidence for your insane theories that all kinds of people mixed willy-nilly, because it's simply not true. The amount of non-Caucasoid DNA in Europe, North Africa and to a lesser extent the Middle East is absolutely minimal.

[Yarbrough25163]

It's funny how white people in paticular are on this "Everyone is equal and the same" shit now. We weren't equal in the 1910's,20's,30's,40's,50,60's,70's,80's, and even now. White people werent hollerin let's all get along in the south in the 50's or 60's. But now, white people see their numbers and power declining and now it's "we're all the same". Damn well if that's so tell that shit to Emmitt Till who was killed by those devils in Miss. for whistling at a white woman. Or those 4 little girls who got killed going to church, by some devil who claims he was a christian himself. We they equal then? And if so why wasn't there this many white people saying that then. And i don't wanna hear 'there were some that helped". Yeah there were some, but not enough. And i say, why weren't there more? We as Black people can't sit around and wait for white folks to change. We just can't. That's why i am for doing for ourselves, and if white folks wanna stick their necks out for us then good. But we still are gonna do for ourselves. If white people really wanna do something then change some of this racist ass shit y'all white brothers and sisters be doing. Go all the way and fight to make sure that shit is equal and fair. But white folks aint gonna do that, and you know what i don't blame them. Their nature is not the same as the original people. And yeah your gonna say it's racist because, all most people see is, me saying the white man is a devil. That's the thing with white people, look at why i'm saying that, rather than the fact that i said it. All i have to say is look at the white man's history on this earth. I mean white people have done some seriously vicious things to the original peoples of the earth. I mean wherever they went and conquererd they made either slaves out of the people or they killed them. They lied to the native peoples, and they stole from them too. I know other races have done things too, but never on the same level the white european has done! There has never been a man like the white man on our planet before. THIS IS A FACT! I mean really study it and i'm sure you'll see why then. If you can't see it then it something you need to work on! All Praises due to Allah!

[whiskeyjack]

It's funny how white people in paticular are on this "Everyone is equal and the same" shit now. We weren't equal in the 1910's,20's,30's,40's,50,60's,70's,80's, and even now. White people werent hollerin let's all get along in the south in the 50's or 60's. But now, white people see their numbers and power declining and now it's "we're all the same". Damn well if that's so tell that shit to Emmitt Till who was killed by those devils in Miss. for whistling at a white woman. Or those 4 little girls who got killed going to church, by some devil who claims he was a christian himself. We they equal then? And if so why wasn't there this many white people saying that then. And i don't wanna hear 'there were some that helped". Yeah there were some, but not enough. And i say, why weren't there more? We as Black people can't sit around and wait for white folks to change. We just can't. That's why i am for doing for ourselves, and if white folks wanna stick their necks out for us then good. But we still are gonna do for ourselves. If white people really wanna do something then change some of this racist ass shit y'all white brothers and sisters be doing. Go all the way and fight to make sure that shit is equal and fair. But white folks aint gonna do that, and you know what i don't blame them. Their nature is not the same as the original people. And yeah your gonna say it's racist because, all most people see is, me saying the white man is a devil. That's the thing with white people, look at why i'm saying that, rather than the fact that i said it. All i have to say is look at the white man's history on this earth. I mean white people have done some seriously vicious things to the original peoples of the earth. I mean wherever they went and conquererd they made either slaves out of the people or they killed them. They lied to the native peoples, and they stole from them too. I know other races have done things too, but never on the same level the white european has done! There has never been a man like the white man on our planet before. THIS IS A FACT! I mean really study it and i'm sure you'll see why then. If you can't see it then it something you need to work on! All Praises due to Allah!

i hope your not considered smart wherever you live , cause you stupid as hell

[Sentenza]

It's funny how white people in paticular are on this "Everyone is equal and the same" shit now. We weren't equal in the 1910's,20's,30's,40's,50,60's,70's,80's, and even now. White people werent hollerin let's all get along in the south in the 50's or 60's. But now, white people see their numbers and power declining and now it's "we're all the same". Damn well if that's so tell that shit to Emmitt Till who was killed by those devils in Miss. for whistling at a white woman. Or those 4 little girls who got killed going to church, by some devil who claims he was a christian himself. We they equal then? And if so why wasn't there this many white people saying that then. And i don't wanna hear 'there were some that helped". Yeah there were some, but not enough. And i say, why weren't there more? We as Black people can't sit around and wait for white folks to change. We just can't. That's why i am for doing for ourselves, and if white folks wanna stick their necks out for us then good. But we still are gonna do for ourselves. If white people really wanna do something then change some of this racist ass shit y'all white brothers and sisters be doing. Go all the way and fight to make sure that shit is equal and fair. But white folks aint gonna do that, and you know what i don't blame them. Their nature is not the same as the original people. And yeah your gonna say it's racist because, all most people see is, me saying the white man is a devil. That's the thing with white people, look at why i'm saying that, rather than the fact that i said it. All i have to say is look at the white man's history on this earth. I mean white people have done some seriously vicious things to the original peoples of the earth. I mean wherever they went and conquererd they made either slaves out of the people or they killed them. They lied to the native peoples, and they stole from them too. I know other races have done things too, but never on the same level the white european has done! There has never been a man like the white man on our planet before. THIS IS A FACT! I mean really study it and i'm sure you'll see why then. If you can't see it then it something you need to work on! All Praises due to Allah!

OMG, thats just stupid....Did i kill that boy? Or any of my relatives? No? Are these people who did it scum that deserves to be shot? Yea.
Am i fearing a decline of my numbers and power? Nope. I dont even believe in race, it doesnt exist technically. And i am not even living in place where theres a significant number of blacks.
Thats just bs. And all that devil stuff is bs too. Do you have any scientific proof that mankind is 6000 years old? And that white people are the result of genetical experiments by black people 6000 years ago? Like your NOI likes to believe?
I mean come on, thats just crazy stuff, Ufo sect type stuff.
Nation of Islam are not even Muslims. They are a racist cult, nothing else. If youd read the Quran or dealt with whats Islam about, then youd know, that Islam rejects the concept of race completely and does NOT teach, that the black man is superior to anyone. That was made up by your Pacific Islander Master Fard.

[Sentenza]

Oh yea, just for you:

[whiskeyjack]

hey sentenza call me crazy but i think jim crow is a prohphet in the NOI, because they seem sure as hell well versed in the ways of racism... Im thinking of making a thread about it

[Yarbrough25163]

like i said before both of u are not on my level. I'll leave it at that! ha! ha! devils! Y'all time is up! All praises due to Allah!

[whiskeyjack]

like i said before both of u are not on my level. I'll leave it at that! ha! ha! devils! Y'all time is up! All praises due to Allah!

let me ask you this, why is it that the lighter of black people lead these racist cults? Has the devil infiltrated the NOI, your leader is pretty pale for a black man , the New black panther party spokesman on TV a few years ago that was calling for the extermination of white people, looked a little pale.... ... The drug addict that founded the NOI looked a little pale also

i know im not on your level, i can actually think for myself , and not have to repeat the same BS you saying over and over to make a point

[punamusta]

the New black panther party spokesman on TV a few years ago that was calling for the extermination of white people, looked a little pale....

Is it true that he said something like this? I don't know much about the New Black Panther Party, but I've always had a huge respect towards the Black Panthers (meaning the old movement they had).

And by the way, you all should read what Sentenza have been writing here. He has many very good points.

[whiskeyjack]

the New black panther party spokesman on TV a few years ago that was calling for the extermination of white people, looked a little pale....

Is it true that he said something like this? I don't know much about the New Black Panther Party, but I've always had a huge respect towards the Black Panthers (meaning the old movement they had).

And by the way, you all should read what Sentenza have been writing here. He has many very good points.

yes and no. Some hippie black person called for the extermination of white people, and the NEW BLACK PANRTHER PARTY endorsed it



And whats even crazier is that not one single black person on this site, hasnt said they dont agree with them. Only white people here so far seem to speak out against them.

[whiskeyjack]

you hear that black panther party spokesmen, he is dodging the real questions like the kid in this thread yarabough lol...

AND HE IS PALE for a BLACK dude, something tells me the devil has infiltrated the NOI

[Sentenza]

like i said before both of u are not on my level. I'll leave it at that! ha! ha! devils! Y'all time is up! All praises due to Allah!

Translation: I dont know what to say because i have no arguments.