Memo to Young Black Men

These concepts are socially constructed and have been given much weight. What are your thoughts?

Postby Invincible » November 22nd, 2006, 9:07 pm

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Postby Invincible » November 22nd, 2006, 9:17 pm

"Still, employers are averse to taking risks on black applicants, whom they perceive to have criminal tendencies, the study says. "

Just a perception? So Blacks don't commit more crimes per capita than whites?

A couple of factors that work against young black men is their portrayal in the media as gangsters, thugs and rappers on the fringes of society, "

So the media creates the perception that blacks commit more crimes...

"...and the fact that more black men are going to prison than college, according to a report by the U.S. Justice Department."

So, they do commit more crimes? I am confused. Sorry.
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Postby madmiddle » November 22nd, 2006, 9:20 pm

Invincible wrote:the article you posted is just one example of liberal media, there are plenty of articles I could dig up that say its easier for black to get hired



Find one that proves it through studies done by sociologists.
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Postby Invincible » November 22nd, 2006, 10:59 pm

I already did awhile back showed an article how blacks commit more crimes showing whites of the same class and wealth (poor whites less likely to commit crimes), as well as ones were posted blacks commit more hate crimes on whites than vice versa. And there were documentarie sona ffirmative action interviewing university commities responsible for picking students.
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Postby Invincible » November 22nd, 2006, 11:00 pm

that guy in 12 seconds into the clip is who I was talking about sayigng he wont have a chance when he gets parolled:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db8Vdj4PCH8

he looks alot worse once he stands up and his whole body is int atoosincluding sides of his face/neck.
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Postby Invincible » November 23rd, 2006, 1:13 am

the threa don that site was removed but it was hell of funny, some guy said hes afraid of black people because when they rob you you never know if theyll kill u or not like white people who when they rob you generally will leave u alone. he said if you have too littl emoney on u or too much it could be ur doom.
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Postby looneytunes1 » November 23rd, 2006, 1:53 am

Invincible wrote:doom


I dont know why, but that made me laff :lol:
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Postby Invincible » November 23rd, 2006, 2:21 am

"Why black people scare me

Because if they rob me for a quarter, I never know if they're going to shoot me or not.

That's the scary factor.

White guy robs you, chances are that you'll live through the ordeal.

Black guys are too unpredictable. They may shoot you...they may not. Who fucking knows. It could be based on money...like if you only have 10 bucks, they might shoot you for not having enough money.

Or if you have too much, like 500, they might shoot you too for having too much (not wanting to get caught for a greater offense). So it's like best to have the right amount of money in your wallet, like maybe 80 bucks. Enough to make them happy enough not to shoot you, but not enough for it to be too serious a crime. "
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Postby Invincible » November 23rd, 2006, 2:21 am

"true story: one of my dad's friends, a local teamsters official, walked into a gas station during a robbery in progress, the robber, who was black, looked at him, said, "So long white MF..." then shot him and left. The guy is fine now but he still has the bullet in him."
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Postby Invincible » November 23rd, 2006, 2:21 am

oh and it was actually a mexican who wrote the first quote.
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Postby johnnny » November 23rd, 2006, 6:51 am

Christina Marie wrote:
johnnny wrote:
WIP wrote:This is what they want you to see. TV and Movies only depict black man as dummys. The person who wrote the article sounds like a typical sheep who gets their culture from television. They wouldnt ever know the black male living in a jacked up neighborhood. Cleaning businesses to pay tuition to junior college. A brother with a bus pass really aint appealing to some. But they will throw the gold grill gangsta in bright a$$ colors in your face all day. Ice Cube said it best "this is what they think about you." Blacks men are depicted one dimentional and maybe thats a good thing. So that they dont exploit the ones who are truly tryin to get out the funk.


-i have a bus pass :D
-i payed for my own tuiton and braces out of my own pocket, my folks didnt help shit, if i was working part time i had two part time jobs - now i just have a full time job and school :?
-but i get no sympathy cause im white, but what doesnt kill you makes you stronger


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Postby madmiddle » November 23rd, 2006, 10:34 am

johnnny wrote:
Christina Marie wrote:
johnnny wrote:
WIP wrote:This is what they want you to see. TV and Movies only depict black man as dummys. The person who wrote the article sounds like a typical sheep who gets their culture from television. They wouldnt ever know the black male living in a jacked up neighborhood. Cleaning businesses to pay tuition to junior college. A brother with a bus pass really aint appealing to some. But they will throw the gold grill gangsta in bright a$$ colors in your face all day. Ice Cube said it best "this is what they think about you." Blacks men are depicted one dimentional and maybe thats a good thing. So that they dont exploit the ones who are truly tryin to get out the funk.


-i have a bus pass :D
-i payed for my own tuiton and braces out of my own pocket, my folks didnt help shit, if i was working part time i had two part time jobs - now i just have a full time job and school :?
-but i get no sympathy cause im white, but what doesnt kill you makes you stronger


I hear THAT


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They dont seem to understand having a job and ''struggling'' versus living in a society that seeks to keep you unemployed,giving the minority that do have jobs (mostly) unlivable wages.Its a pretty bleak future for black men unless some drastic shit happens,its pretty clear that white folks cant/dont want to see that there is seriously something evil and wrong with the current system.
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Postby madmiddle » November 23rd, 2006, 10:40 am

Invincible wrote:"Still, employers are averse to taking risks on black applicants, whom they perceive to have criminal tendencies, the study says. "

Just a perception? So Blacks don't commit more crimes per capita than whites?

A couple of factors that work against young black men is their portrayal in the media as gangsters, thugs and rappers on the fringes of society, "

So the media creates the perception that blacks commit more crimes...

"...and the fact that more black men are going to prison than college, according to a report by the U.S. Justice Department."

So, they do commit more crimes? I am confused. Sorry.


Yes per capita blacks do commit more crimes than whites.Due to literally being blocked from a legitimate way to earn enough money to live.Its a cycle that doesnt stop...whites oppresss blacks because they feel they are superior and blacks deserve low class treatment,blacks commit mostly non violent,economic based crimes because of ths oppression,whites legitimize oppressing blacks because of crime,more blacks in prison, and on and on.
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Postby madmiddle » November 23rd, 2006, 10:41 am

well,discrimination is also a crime,but it goes mostly unpunished,so I dont know weather blacks do ''commit more'' crime than whites.All the ''throw his application away'' ''nah dont rent to him'' descisions made millions of times by whites everyday go under the radar.Nobody seems to see it but blacks.
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Postby EmperorPenguin » November 23rd, 2006, 11:59 am

Invincible wrote:that guy in 12 seconds into the clip is who I was talking about sayigng he wont have a chance when he gets parolled:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db8Vdj4PCH8

he looks alot worse once he stands up and his whole body is int atoosincluding sides of his face/neck.


That's HIS choice again. He chooses to make himself stand out. That has NOTHING to do with the color of his skin. The fact is people of color today still get looked at differently then a white person. Sure, someone can dress up and make themselves look "gangsta" or try to stand out wearing certain colors, anyone can do that white, brown, black whatever. At the end of the day though, a person of color regardless of how well they dress will more then likely get a different reaction from an employer then a white person. This white guy you keep posting made a choice to make himself look like that, a person of color doesn't have that choice.
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Postby EmperorPenguin » November 23rd, 2006, 12:00 pm

Invincible wrote:"true story: one of my dad's friends, a local teamsters official, walked into a gas station during a robbery in progress, the robber, who was black, looked at him, said, "So long white MF..." then shot him and left. The guy is fine now but he still has the bullet in him."


Thanks for your pointless story. Honestly, if you're going to copy and paste stuff every post do us all a favor and back it up with an actual source. Saying "a mexican told me this" or "I read this some where" or "some guy told me this from another forum" gives you little to no credit.
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Postby johnnny » November 23rd, 2006, 12:43 pm

madmiddle wrote:
johnnny wrote:
Christina Marie wrote:
johnnny wrote:
WIP wrote:This is what they want you to see. TV and Movies only depict black man as dummys. The person who wrote the article sounds like a typical sheep who gets their culture from television. They wouldnt ever know the black male living in a jacked up neighborhood. Cleaning businesses to pay tuition to junior college. A brother with a bus pass really aint appealing to some. But they will throw the gold grill gangsta in bright a$$ colors in your face all day. Ice Cube said it best "this is what they think about you." Blacks men are depicted one dimentional and maybe thats a good thing. So that they dont exploit the ones who are truly tryin to get out the funk.


-i have a bus pass :D
-i payed for my own tuiton and braces out of my own pocket, my folks didnt help shit, if i was working part time i had two part time jobs - now i just have a full time job and school :?
-but i get no sympathy cause im white, but what doesnt kill you makes you stronger


I hear THAT


:o


They dont seem to understand having a job and ''struggling'' versus living in a society that seeks to keep you unemployed,giving the minority that do have jobs (mostly) unlivable wages.Its a pretty bleak future for black men unless some drastic shit happens,its pretty clear that white folks cant/dont want to see that there is seriously something evil and wrong with the current system.


-by "they" are you reffering to me? cause im not trying to keep you down and outta the community
-what im saying is that my struggle is still a struggle to live, just like it is for the black man in the ghetto
-in some cases my struggle to make rent, tuiton and other expenses are the same as most black people i know, we all go to school and got jobs whats the difference?
-there should be some drastic action, but the senate or congress wont pass any bill (the average joe) (me) drafts up, so what can i do ???
-and when the government takes some drastic action could you tell them to lower taxes please
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Postby WIP » November 25th, 2006, 1:52 am

Invincible wrote:"Why black people scare me

Because if they rob me for a quarter, I never know if they're going to shoot me or not.

That's the scary factor.

White guy robs you, chances are that you'll live through the ordeal.

Black guys are too unpredictable. They may shoot you...they may not. Who #%@&#%@ knows. It could be based on money...like if you only have 10 bucks, they might shoot you for not having enough money.

Or if you have too much, like 500, they might shoot you too for having too much (not wanting to get caught for a greater offense). So it's like best to have the right amount of money in your wallet, like maybe 80 bucks. Enough to make them happy enough not to shoot you, but not enough for it to be too serious a crime. "



Stay that way. I hope you have a long life and die paranoid.
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Postby WIP » November 25th, 2006, 1:59 am

madmiddle wrote:
johnnny wrote:
Christina Marie wrote:
johnnny wrote:
WIP wrote:This is what they want you to see. TV and Movies only depict black man as dummys. The person who wrote the article sounds like a typical sheep who gets their culture from television. They wouldnt ever know the black male living in a jacked up neighborhood. Cleaning businesses to pay tuition to junior college. A brother with a bus pass really aint appealing to some. But they will throw the gold grill gangsta in bright a$$ colors in your face all day. Ice Cube said it best "this is what they think about you." Blacks men are depicted one dimentional and maybe thats a good thing. So that they dont exploit the ones who are truly tryin to get out the funk.


-i have a bus pass :D
-i payed for my own tuiton and braces out of my own pocket, my folks didnt help shit, if i was working part time i had two part time jobs - now i just have a full time job and school :?
-but i get no sympathy cause im white, but what doesnt kill you makes you stronger


I hear THAT


:o


They dont seem to understand having a job and ''struggling'' versus living in a society that seeks to keep you unemployed,giving the minority that do have jobs (mostly) unlivable wages.Its a pretty bleak future for black men unless some drastic shit happens,its pretty clear that white folks cant/dont want to see that there is seriously something evil and wrong with the current system.


The funny thing is I could care less about a white persons opinion on this. Why even comment when you created the problem. I guess they just have to get some things off their chest. Because they cant get it off their conscious..
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Postby frozen fire » November 25th, 2006, 3:30 am

Its true the system is unfair, but what are blacks doing to change the cycle of oppression?
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Postby NICKELS » November 25th, 2006, 5:43 am

frozen fire wrote:Its true the system is unfair, but what are blacks doing to change the cycle of oppression?


marrying white people......and entertaing them through music & sports " tap dance brotha , tap dance "

ahahahahah :lol:
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Postby Invincible » November 25th, 2006, 7:19 am

madmiddle wrote:
Invincible wrote:"Still, employers are averse to taking risks on black applicants, whom they perceive to have criminal tendencies, the study says. "

Just a perception? So Blacks don't commit more crimes per capita than whites?

A couple of factors that work against young black men is their portrayal in the media as gangsters, thugs and rappers on the fringes of society, "

So the media creates the perception that blacks commit more crimes...

"...and the fact that more black men are going to prison than college, according to a report by the U.S. Justice Department."

So, they do commit more crimes? I am confused. Sorry.


Yes per capita blacks do commit more crimes than whites.Due to literally being blocked from a legitimate way to earn enough money to live.Its a cycle that doesnt stop...whites oppresss blacks because they feel they are superior and blacks deserve low class treatment,blacks commit mostly non violent,economic based crimes because of ths oppression,whites legitimize oppressing blacks because of crime,more blacks in prison, and on and on.


whites in appachia where they are dirt poor and have little opportunities sitll dont relaly commit many crimes.
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Postby madmiddle » November 25th, 2006, 8:40 am

Invincible wrote:
madmiddle wrote:
Invincible wrote:"Still, employers are averse to taking risks on black applicants, whom they perceive to have criminal tendencies, the study says. "

Just a perception? So Blacks don't commit more crimes per capita than whites?

A couple of factors that work against young black men is their portrayal in the media as gangsters, thugs and rappers on the fringes of society, "

So the media creates the perception that blacks commit more crimes...

"...and the fact that more black men are going to prison than college, according to a report by the U.S. Justice Department."

So, they do commit more crimes? I am confused. Sorry.


Yes per capita blacks do commit more crimes than whites.Due to literally being blocked from a legitimate way to earn enough money to live.Its a cycle that doesnt stop...whites oppresss blacks because they feel they are superior and blacks deserve low class treatment,blacks commit mostly non violent,economic based crimes because of ths oppression,whites legitimize oppressing blacks because of crime,more blacks in prison, and on and on.


whites in appachia where they are dirt poor and have little opportunities sitll dont relaly commit many crimes.


Whites are in power.Youre evil,so you will always see fault within us yet none within yourselves.
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Postby Sentenza » November 25th, 2006, 8:43 am

Its not that simple i think. There is fault within white society, as much as there is fault in black society. And there are many whites who recognize that.
Its not a black vs. white thing, but a ignorant vs. the knowing struggle.
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Postby johnnny » November 25th, 2006, 10:17 am

WIP wrote:. Why even comment when you created the problem. I guess they just have to get some things off their chest. Because they cant get it off their conscious..


next week on the agenda i was thinking about inslaving the native americans next, pick some fights with minorities, and do what russel crowe would do when he was on south park
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Postby madmiddle » November 25th, 2006, 10:18 am

Sentenza wrote:Its not that simple i think. There is fault within white society, as much as there is fault in black society. And there are many whites who recognize that.
Its not a black vs. white thing, but a ignorant vs. the knowing struggle.


Its not ''as much'' fault on the black community.Whites are the ones starving people of needed economic resources,therefore they are the main party at fault.
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Postby johnnny » November 25th, 2006, 10:19 am

NICKELS wrote:
frozen fire wrote:Its true the system is unfair, but what are blacks doing to change the cycle of oppression?


marrying white people......and entertaing them through music & sports " tap dance brotha , tap dance "

ahahahahah :lol:


Lol the old join em if you cant beat them apprach, nice 8)
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Postby madmiddle » November 25th, 2006, 10:19 am

These are a sick,cruel people we are dealing with.
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Postby madmiddle » November 25th, 2006, 10:22 am

johnnny wrote:
WIP wrote:. Why even comment when you created the problem. I guess they just have to get some things off their chest. Because they cant get it off their conscious..


native americans


I dont celebrate thanksgiving because its disgusting what these monsters did to thier people.Once I got older and realized the truth about White America,I dropped alot of things (christianity,celebrating certain holidays,respecting the pledge of allegence,etc).
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Postby johnnny » November 25th, 2006, 10:23 am

madmiddle wrote:These are a sick,cruel people we are dealing with.


well you keep on syaing stupid shit that im oppresing black people, when you should just say its our government and not the general white population
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Postby johnnny » November 25th, 2006, 10:25 am

madmiddle wrote:
johnnny wrote:
WIP wrote:. Why even comment when you created the problem. I guess they just have to get some things off their chest. Because they cant get it off their conscious..


native americans


I dont celebrate thanksgiving because its disgusting what these monsters did to thier people.Once I got older and realized the truth about White America,I dropped alot of things (christianity,celebrating certain holidays,respecting the pledge of allegence,etc).


i celebrate it up here cause for the most part we didnt do "most" of the things to the natives that the americans did , they still have there treaties were the americans abolished there treaties, were honouring our deal from 100's of years ago
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Postby johnnny » November 25th, 2006, 10:35 am

NICKELS wrote:
frozen fire wrote:Its true the system is unfair, but what are blacks doing to change the cycle of oppression?


marrying white people......and entertaing them through music & sports " tap dance brotha , tap dance "

ahahahahah :lol:


all the black males are having half devil children with the white devil women
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