Black Panther Party

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Black Panther Party

Postby perongregory » February 4th, 2007, 11:32 pm

As Americans it's important for all of us to know our history. If you do not know much about the Black Panther Party, please read the following. You will not be disapointed.

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In October of 1966, in Oakland California, Huey Newton and Bobby Seale founded the Black Panther Party for Self-Defense. The Panthers practiced militant self-defense of minority communities against the U.S. government, and fought to establish revolutionary socialism through mass organizing and community based programs. The party was one of the first organizations in U.S. history to militantly struggle for ethnic minority and working class emancipation — a party whose agenda was the revolutionary establishment of real economic, social, and political equality across gender and color lines.

-The Ten-Point Program

-Rules of the Black Panther Party

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Original six Black Panthers (November, 1966) Top left to right: Elbert "Big Man" Howard; Huey P. Newton (Defense Minister), Sherman Forte, Bobby Seale (Chairman). Bottom: Reggie Forte and Little Bobby Hutton (Treasurer).

Black Panther Theory: The practices of the late Malcolm X were deeply rooted in the theoretical foundations of the Black Panther Party. Malcolm had represented both a militant revolutionary, with the dignity and self-respect to stand up and fight to win equality for all oppressed minorities; while also being an outstanding role model, someone who sought to bring about positive social services; something the Black Panthers would take to new heights. The Panthers followed Malcolm's belief of international working class unity across the spectrum of color and gender, and thus united with various minority and white revolutionary groups. From the tenets of Maoism they set the role of their Party as the vanguard of the revolution and worked to establish a united front, while from Marxism they addressed the capitalist economic system, embraced the theory of dialectical materialism, and represented the need for all workers to forcefully take over the means of production.

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Black Panther History: On April 25th, 1967, the first issue of The Black Panther, the party's official news organ, goes into distribution. In the following month, the party marches on the California state capital fully armed, in protest of the state's attempt to outlaw carrying loaded weapons in public. Bobby Seale reads a statement of protest; while the police respond by immediately arresting him and all 30 armed Panthers. This early act of political repression kindles the fires to the burning resistance movement in the United States; soon initiating minority workers to take up arms and form new Panther chapters outside the state.

In October of 1967, the police arrest the Defense Minister of the Panthers, Huey Newton, for killing an Oakland cop. Panther Eldridge Cleaver begins the movement to "Free Huey", a struggle the Panthers would devote a great deal of their attention to in the coming years, while the party spreads it's roots further into the political spectrum, forming coalitions with various revolutionary parties.

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Eldridge Cleaver

Stokely Carmichael, the former chairman of the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC) and a nationally known proponent of Black Power, is recruited into the party through this struggle, and soon becomes the party's Prime Minister in February, 1968. Carmichael is adamantly against allowing whites into the black liberation movement, explaining whites cannot relate to the black experience and have an intimidating effect on blacks; a position that stirs opposition within the Panthers. Carmichael explains: "Whites who come into the black community with ideas of change seem to want to absolve the power structure of its responsibility for what it is doing, and say that change can only come through black unity, which is the worst kind of paternalism..... If we are to proceed toward true liberation, we must cut ourselves off from white people..... [otherwise] we will find ourselves entwined in the tentacles of the white power complex that controls this country." (The Basis of Black Power

In the beginning of 1968, after selling Mao’s Red Book to university students in order to buy shotguns, the Party makes the book required reading. Meanwhile, the FBI, under J. Edgar Hoover, begins a program called COINTELPRO (counterintelligence program) to break up the spreading unity of revolutionary groups that had begun solidifying through the work and examaple of the Panthers — the Peace and Freedom Party, Brown Berets, Students for a Democratic Society, the SNCC, SCLC, Poor People's March, Cesar Chavez and others in the farm labor movement, the American Indian Movement, Young Puerto Rican Brothers, the Young Lords and many others. To destroy the party, the FBI begins with a program of surgical assassinations — killing leading members of the party who they know cannot be otherwise subverted. Following these mass killings would be a series of arrests, followed by a program of psychological warfare, designed to split the party both politically and morally through the use of espionage, provocatures, and chemical warfare.

U.S. Police Terror and Repression


[img]On April 6, 1968, in West Oakland, Bobby Hutton, 17 years old, is shot dead by Oakland police.
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In a 90 minute gun battle, an unarmed Bobby Hutton shot ten times dead, after his house is set ablaze and he is forced to run out into a fire of bullets. Just two days earlier, Martin Luther King is assasinated, after he had begun rethinking his own doctrines of non-violence, and started to build ties with radical unions. Two months later on the day of Bobby's death, Robert Kennedy, widely recognised in the minority commmunity as one of the only politicians in the US "sympathetic" to the civil rights movement, is also assasinated.

In January, 1969, The first Panther's Free Breakfast for School Children Program is initiated at St. Augustine's Church in Oakland. By the end of the year, the Panthers set up kitchens in cities across the nation, feeding over 10,000 children every day before they went to school.

(url=http://www.marxists.org/history/usa/workers/black-panthers/1969/03/26.htm]To Feed Our Children[/url])

A few months later, J. Edgar Hoover publicly states that the Panthers are the "greatest threat to the internal security of the country".
In Chicago, the outstanding leader of the Panthers local, Fred Hampton,
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leads five different breakfast programs on the West Side, helps create a free medical center, and initiates a door to door program of health services which test for sickle cell anemia, and encourage blood drives for the Cook County Hospital. The Chicago party also begins reaching out to local gangs to clean up their acts, get them away from crime and bring them into the class war. The Parties efforts meet wide success, and Hampton's audiences and organised contingent grow by the day.

On December 4th, at 4:00 a.m. in the morning, thanks to information from an FBI informant , Chicago police raid the Panthers' Chicago apartment, murdering Fred Hampton while he sleeps in bed.

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He is shot twice in the head,

once in the arm and shoulder; while three other people sleeping in the same bed escape unharmed. Mark Clark, sleeping in the living room chair, is also murdered while asleep. Hampton's wife, carrying child for 8 months, is also shot, but survives. Four panthers sleeping in the apartment are wounded, while one other escapes injury . Fred Hampton was 21 years old when he was executed, Mark was 17 years old. According to the findings of the federal grand jury, Ninety bullets were fired inside the apartment. 1 came from a Panther — Mark — who slept with a shotgun in his hand. All surviving Panther members were arrested for "attempted murder of the police and aggravated assault". Not a single cop spent a moment in jail for the executions.
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http://www.marxists.org/history/usa/workers/black-panthers/audio/fred-hampton.wav I AM A REVOLUTIONARY - FRED HAMPTON<------LISTEN TO IT!

In the summer of 1969, the alliance between the Panthers and SNCC begins ripping apart. One of the main points of dispute is the inclusion of whites in the struggle for minority liberation, a dispute which is pushed into an open gun fight at the University of California in Los Angeles against the group US, led by Maulana Karenga, which leaves two Panthers dead. In September, in the government's court house, Huey Newton is convicted of voluntary manslaughter and sentenced to 2 to 15 years in prison; by 1970 the conviction is appealed and overturned on procedural errors. On November 24, 1968, Kathleen and Eldridge Cleaver flee the US, visit Cuba and Paris, and eventually settle in Algeria. Earlier in the year Cleaver published his famous book Soul on Ice. By the end of the year, the party has swelled from 400 members to over 5,000 members in 45 chapters and branches, with a newspaper circulation of 100,000 copies.

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In 1969 Seale is indicted in Chicago for protesting during the Democratic national convention of last year. The court refuses to allow Seale to choose a lawyer. As Seale repeatedly stands up during the show trial insisting that he is being denied his constitutional right to counsel, the judge orders him bound and gagged. He is convicted on 16 counts of contempt and sentenced to four years in prison. While in jail he would be charged again for killing a cop in years past, a trial that would end in 1971 with a hung jury.


Bobby Seale


In March, 1970, Bobby Seale publishes Seize The Time while still being held in prison, the story of the Panthers and Huey Newton. On April 2, 1970, in New York, 21 Panthers are charged with plotting to assassinate police officers and blow up buildings. On May 22nd, Eight members, including Ericka Huggins, are arrested on a variety of conspiracy and murder charges in New Haven, Connecticut. Meanwhile, Chief of staff David Hilliard is on trial for threatening President Richard Nixon. The party does little to separate it's legal and illegal aspects, and is thus always and everywhere under attack by the government. In 1971, the Panther's newspaper circulation reaches 250,000.

On Huey Newton's release from prison, he devotes more effort to further develop the Panther's socialist survival programs in black communities; programs that provided free breakfasts for children, established free medical clinics, helped the homeless find housing, and gave away free clothing and food.

FBI forgery, provacation, & chemical war


In March, 1970, the FBI begins to soe seeds of factionalism in the Black Panthers, in part by forging letters to members. Eldridge Cleaver is one of their main targets — living in exile in Algiers — they gradually convince him with a steady stream of misinformation that the BPP leadership is trying to remove him from power. Cleaver recieved stacks of forgered FBI letters from supposed party members, criticising Netwon's leadership, and asking for Cleaver to take control. An example of such a forged letter, written using the name of Connie Matthews, Newton's personal secretary:

I know you have not been told what has been happening lately.... Things around headquarters are dreadfully disorganized with the comrade commander not making proper decisions. The newspaper is in a shambles. No one knows who is in charge. The foreign department gets no support. Brothers and sisters are accused of all sorts of things...
I am disturbed because I, myself, do not know which way to turn.... If only you were here to inject some strength into the movement, or to give some advice. One of two steps must be taken soon and both are drastic. We must either get rid of the supreme commander or get rid of the disloyal members... Huey is really all we have right now and we can't let him down, reglardless of how poorly he is acting, unless you feel otherwise.


Cleaver receives similarly forged letters across the spectrum, from groups outside the Panthers, to Panthers themselves, from rank and file members to Elbert "Big Man" Howard, editor of the Black Panther. The split comes when Newton goes onto a T.V. talk show for an interview, with Cleaver on the phone in Algiers. Cleaver expresses his absolute disdain for what has happened to the party, demands that David Hilliard (Chief of Staff) be removed, and even attacks the breakfast program as reformist. Cleaver is expelled from the Central Committee, and starts up his own Black Liberation Army. In 1973, Seale runs for mayor of Oakland. Though he receives 40 percent of the vote, he is defeated.

The destroyed remnants of the party leadership


With such great struggles, seeing the party being ripped apart by factions and internal hatred, Huey, like many members, becomes disillusioned. He no longer wants to lead the party, though so many expect and demand otherwise, while he spins into a spiral of self-doubt. He becomes heavily dependent on cocaine, heroin, and others. It is not clear this was his own doing, and very probable the work of the FBI. Huey remarked in one of his public speeches in the 1980s, where he would often have spurts of his brilliant clarity but then become entirely incoherent and rambling, that he was killing himself by Reactionary suicide, through the vices of drug addiction. On August 22, 1989, Newton is shot dead on the streets of Oakland in a drug dispute.

Bobby Seale resigns from the party; while Elaine Brown takes the lead in continuing the Panther community programs. In the fall of 1975, Eldridge and Kathleen Cleaver return from exile as born-again Christians. In 1979, all charges against Cleaver are dropped after he bargains with the state and pleads guilty to assault in a 1968 shoot out with the cops. He is put on five years probation. In the dimming years of his life, Cleaver assimilates a political outlook similar to Martin Luther King, engages in various business ventures, and becomes heavily addicted to cocaine.

By the beginning of the 1980s, attacks on the party and internal degradation and divisions, cause the party to fall apart. The leadership of the party had been absolutely smashed; it's rank and file constantly terrorized by the police. Many remaining Panthers were hunted down and killed in the following years, imprisoned on trumped charges (Mumia Abu-Jamal, Sundiata Acoli among many others), or forced to flee the United States (Assata Shukur, and others).

As Cleaver would later explain in an interview a year before his death: "As it was [the U.S. government] chopped off the head [of the Black liberation movement] and left the body there armed. That's why all these young bloods are out there now, they've got the rhetoric but are without the political direction... and they've got the guns."
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Postby TeeKay » February 4th, 2007, 11:33 pm

Good shit peron
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Postby perongregory » February 4th, 2007, 11:34 pm

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Mike Tagawa is one of three Japanese Americans to have joined the Black Panther Party. Like Richard Aoki, the national Black Panther Party co-founder, Tagawa was born in an internment camp (Minidoka, 1944). After the war, Tagawa’s family lived in public housing projects in Renton Highlands and Seattle’s Rainier Valley neighborhood before moving to Seattle’s Central District. After graduating from Garfield High School, he joined the U.S. Air Force, eventually serving as a medic in the Travis Air Force Base Psych Ward. While stationed at Travis in 1965 and 1966, Tagawa regularly visited U.C. Berkeley and joined the anti-war movement. He returned to Seattle in 1966, stayed active in the anti-war movement, and, with the encouragement of an old classmate and BPP Minister, Bobby White, joined the Seattle chapter of the Black Panther Party in 1968. Tagawa did not hold a leadership position in the Party, but his interview provides revealing descriptions of the life of a “rank and file” Seattle Panther. After leaving the Black Panthers in 1970, Tagawa co-founded, along with his future brother-in-law Alan Sugiyama, Seattle Central Community College’s Oriental Student Union.

http://depts.washington.edu/civilr/tagawa.htm

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Another shade of Black Panther...
By Richard Aoki (Field Marshall)

Growing up was know easy job for Richard at the early stages in his life he and his family were placed in an Internment camp during World War II, a childhood prisoner held at Topaz Concenation camp in Utah from 1942-1945. He joined the military at a young age, Having left the Army after two years of service, Richard was intimately aware of the vicious treatment and punishment that the U.S. government could meter out.



Being Japanese-American and growing up in Black West Oakland, he was tight with Huey P. Newton, Bobby Seale, as well as David Hilliard years before the party started. He also attended Merritt College for two years before transferring to U.C. Berkeley in 1966. Richard remembers" we had discussed pressing political, social issues of the day, that we wanted to do something about it, so we got together one night and hammed out the 10 point program of the Black Panther Party.

full story can be found here:
http://www.itsabouttimebpp.com/Our_Stories/Chapter3/Richard_Aoki.html
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Postby black » February 4th, 2007, 11:43 pm

perongregory wrote:Image


3rd world, yeah boi. not to many people know about that.
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Re: Black Panther Party

Postby black » February 4th, 2007, 11:45 pm

perongregory wrote:That's why all these young bloods are out there now, they've got the rhetoric but are without the political direction...


dudes not sticking to the script.
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Postby black » February 4th, 2007, 11:46 pm

Good post Peron, this should clear up alot of things for the people misinformed.
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Postby perongregory » February 4th, 2007, 11:48 pm

black wrote:Good post Peron, this should clear up alot of things for the people misinformed.


Definitely, just trying to do my part.
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Postby TeeKay » February 4th, 2007, 11:53 pm

Was there any part of the apalachian youths peron?
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Postby perongregory » February 4th, 2007, 11:55 pm

SOLIDARITY

Unity in the Community!

Black Power to Black People!

White Power to White People!

Brown Power to Brown People!

Yellow Power to Yellow People!

Red Power to Red People!

These phrases were the cries that emanated from Black communities
throughout this nation – they were initiated by the Black Panther Party in
1968. Many organizations were formed after hearing and rallying around
those calls, including the Patriot Party, the Young Lords, the Brown Berets,
the Red Guard, and the American Indian Movement.

Who were these groups and how did they come into existence?

The Patriots were a group of white working-class and poor young people
which originally formed in Chicago and many of them originated from
street-turf gangs. Their chapters and Ten Point Program were modeled after
the Black Panther Party’s and they were strong supporters of the Black
Panther Party. They closely followed the Black Panther Party’s example and
dedicated themselves to serving the basic needs of their communities, such
as feeding hungry children with free breakfast programs. Many worked to
establish free health clinics and other services in their communities. The
Patriot Party, like the Panthers, published a newspaper.

The Young Lords also followed, in purpose and actions, many of the
examples set by the Black Panther Party. These young Puerto Ricans formed
chapters in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Connecticut, New Jersey, Boston
Massachusetts, and Puerto Rico. Their female leadership strongly pursued
the fight for women’s rights and formed and worked with prison solidarity
groups for incarcerated Puerto Ricans. By 1976, the Young Lords had been
all but destroyed by the FBI. However, their impact remained – other groups
formed and continued to pursue their goals.

San Francisco’s Red Guard was patterned closely after the Black Panther
Party. In 1969, the federal government wanted to shut down a Tuberculosis
testing center located in San Francisco’s Chinese community. At the time,
Chinatown had the highest TB rate in the country. The young Asians in the
Red Guard organized the community and staged successful protest
demonstrations to keep that TB testing center open. Through these protests
and the programs that the Red Guard initiated, Chinatown’s citizens were
enlightened and became open to more progressive politics.

In 1970, members of the Red Guard were part of a delegation that was
invited to join Eldridge Cleaver and they accompanied him in a visit to
China, North Korea, and North Vietnam. After about two and a half years,
due to political and police repression, such as office raids, arrests without
warrants, false arrest, and armed stand-offs with police, the organization
collapsed.

Cesar Chavez’s United Farm Workers brought attention to the plight of
Hispanic farm workers in this country. Because of his influence, and that of
the Black Panther Party’s, young Chicanos from the barrios came to realize
that struggle against oppressive conditions was necessary for change, and the
Brown Berets organization was formed in 1967. The Brown Berets had a 13
Point Party Platform similar to that of the BPP. In the summer of 1968, the
Brown Berets marched with the Rainbow Coalition in the Poor People’s
Campaign in Washington, DC. Among their many contributions, they
organized Vietnam War protests, exposed police brutality, and started the
Chicano movement for self-determination. Unfortunately, this organization
also met with a similar fate to that of the Black Panther Party.

AIM was organized in the summer of 1968 when approximately 200
members of the Native American community met to discuss various critical
issues and developments in their communities. These included police
brutality, slum housing, an 80% unemployment rate, and racist and
discriminatory government policies. Today, after many legal battles and
repressive actions on the government’s part, including the imprisonment of
leaders such as Leonard Pelletier, AIM has grown and today still continues
to serve their communities from a base of Native American culture. In
Minnesota, AIM’s birthplace, organizations have developed to institute
schools, housing and employment services.

In November of 1969, the world took notice when young Bay Area
Native American students and urban Indians occupied Alcatraz Island for 19
months, claiming it as federal land in the name of Native Nations.

In the 1960’s and 1970’s all of these diverse groups formed strong bonds
with the Black Panther Party. They came to understand that we all had
common problems; our communities were suffering from many similar
social and economic conditions. We were being oppressed and exploited by
the same perpetrators. These groups met with the Black Panther Party and
discussed and set forth plans to resolve some of these issues. The Black
Panther Party’s 10 Point Platform and Program was a basic plan of action
that spelled out clearly what we wanted and what we believed. This program
and platform was so powerful and so on-target that many of those solidarity
groups drew up similar programs and tailored them to their communities’
needs.

Because of strong solidarity with these many different groups, the Black
Panther Party was able to amass great numbers of people to participate in
demonstrations such as Free Huey, Stop the Draft, and End the Vietnam War
rallies, which occurred all over the country.

Included among these supportive organizations were many splinter
groups such as the Gay Liberation Front, the Peace and Freedom Party, the
Woman’s Liberation Movement, the Yippies, the Grey Panthers and groups
that formed for the rights of disabled people. These solidarity groups did not
go unnoticed by the FBI and were also subjected to the FBI’s dirty tricks and
Cointelpro program. Their offices and residences were bugged, they were
infiltrated by government spies, and set-up for frame-ups and false arrests.
Although they were harassed and brutalized, no other party, except for the
Black Panther Party, was singled out for complete extermination.

Many members of the Black Panther Party were tortured, murdered,
and/or locked away in dungeons, where many still remain, however, they did
not get us all. We, the survivors, have a duty and a responsibility to continue
to fight for those same 10 Points, for What We Want and What We Believe.

So, on the occasion of this Black Panther Party 40th Year Reunion and
Celebration on October 13-15, 2006, we recognize and invite former
members of solidarity groups, especially all those rank and file members,
our friends, and all those community workers who continue to struggle for
freedom and justice to join us. We will talk about the past, but most
importantly, we will look at what we are doing today and explore the
possibilities of what we can accomplish in the future. I believe we have
much to do, for the struggle does not end with us and, perhaps, by coming
together in solidarity again, we can set into motion the birth of a new
beginning.

Elbert “Big Man” Howard
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Postby perongregory » February 4th, 2007, 11:58 pm

TeeKay wrote:Was there any part of the apalachian youths peron?


There's a documentary on the Black Panthers and the young white youth group called the "Young Patriots"; apparently they were Appalachian white youth in solidarity with the Panthers and Young Lords. The name of the documentary is "All Power to the People! The Black Panther Party and Beyond."

http://www.filmakers.com/indivs/AllPower.htm
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Postby TeeKay » February 5th, 2007, 12:28 am

Damn the feds dismantled them
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Postby A Ghost » February 5th, 2007, 12:41 am

What about the New Black Panthers?

Do you have any info about them?
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Postby johnnny » February 5th, 2007, 7:47 am

i heard somewhere that the crips were created to destroy the black panthers is this true?
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Postby Mcminister » February 5th, 2007, 4:29 pm

dont think so^^

everybody shud stop murderin eachother to show respect for the panthers work
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Postby lboogie » February 6th, 2007, 7:28 am

Good shit peron...keep dropping jewels on this cats that aint knowing.
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Postby ManifestTruth » February 6th, 2007, 4:38 pm

johnnny wrote:i heard somewhere that the crips were created to destroy the black panthers is this true?


Wasn't the Crips, it was an organization called US(United Slaves) headed
by a brother named Ron Everett(most nowadays know him as Dr. Mualana Karenga, architect of Kwanzaa). Moving along, US(with resources imported by the Feds) got it on with the Panthers. The most notable clash being on UCLA's campus during a meeting between the two groups that left two Panthers dead. Of course there's more to this..
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Postby Cold Bear » February 6th, 2007, 10:34 pm

Anybody read the article "The Advancing Police State In America and the Age of Mass Incarcertation" in the Chicago Crusader?
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Postby BlaKK » February 6th, 2007, 10:56 pm

This forum board is so polluted with Pornography, sodomy and filth, that i passed this thread up, good shit tho payron my nigga...
Fuck that nigga
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Postby ManifestTruth » February 7th, 2007, 9:45 am

Cold Bear wrote:Anybody read the article "The Advancing Police State In America and the Age of Mass Incarcertation" in the Chicago Crusader?


I havent read that but I've read similar articles.. Mass incarceration, huh??
What that sound like to you, good brother??
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Postby ManifestTruth » February 7th, 2007, 9:51 am

BlaKK wrote:This forum board is so polluted with Pornography, sodomy and filth, that i passed this thread up, good shit tho payron my nigga...


All that brother do is enlighten.. Word.
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Postby Odog » February 7th, 2007, 10:11 am

Here a clip with the New Black Panthers.America got a long way to go!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypWu2ZQ_C54&NR

Interesting clip.
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Postby Cold Bear » February 7th, 2007, 10:17 am

I've heard from an original Black Panther party member that he does not respect the New Black Panthers as an actual organization and he said the Panthers were disbanded period, by the government and interference etc. Not sure how other people feel about that but this was an old head.
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Postby ManifestTruth » February 7th, 2007, 11:37 am

Cold Bear wrote:I've heard from an original Black Panther party member that he does not respect the New Black Panthers as an actual organization and he said the Panthers were disbanded period, by the government and interference etc. Not sure how other people feel about that but this was an old head.


Yup, there's been an ideological war going on between the old guard and
the new guard. Thing is, the old heads never espoused racism, just self-reliance. The new heads were formed by ex-NOI brothers and we all know what their belief system is about.
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Postby A Ghost » February 7th, 2007, 12:27 pm

ManifestTruth wrote:
Cold Bear wrote:I've heard from an original Black Panther party member that he does not respect the New Black Panthers as an actual organization and he said the Panthers were disbanded period, by the government and interference etc. Not sure how other people feel about that but this was an old head.


Yup, there's been an ideological war going on between the old guard and
the new guard. Thing is, the old heads never espoused racism, just self-reliance. The new heads were formed by ex-NOI brothers and we all know what their belief system is about.


:shock: :?
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Postby A Ghost » February 7th, 2007, 12:28 pm

LOL @ Exterminating white people :lol: :lol: :lol:

Fuck that, no matter what color anyone is, I aint dying :lol: :lol:
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Postby johnnnny » February 7th, 2007, 4:12 pm

thats insane if thats the new mindset of the black panthers........
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Postby StreetKnowledge » February 7th, 2007, 4:47 pm

The New Black Panthers Are Now Stooping Down To The Same Level The Clan Was At :shock:
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Postby johnnnny » February 7th, 2007, 4:54 pm

StreetKnowledge wrote:The New Black Panthers Are Now Stooping Down To The Same Level The Clan Was At :shock:


thats horrible
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Postby johnnnny » February 7th, 2007, 5:40 pm

you ever hear of "Yaweh Ben Yaweh cult"?There a florida based black supremicist cult, they do really fucked up things to white people....
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Postby ManifestTruth » February 7th, 2007, 6:20 pm

johnnnny wrote:you ever hear of "Yaweh Ben Yaweh cult"?There a florida based black supremicist cult, they do really #%@& up things to white people....


Yaweh Ben Yaweh and his followers did alot more than just harm white people, my friend. They purchased/took over a series of building and built a quasi-community. The larger community had love for the Yahweh Nation as many charitable acts and self-containment took hold. Although many black folks disagreed with his extreme beliefs(no real news there), they were still accepted and respected. The murders changed all that though. An uncle of mine was a hardcore member of this sect, went up for murder but the charge was reduced to involuntary manslaughter. Still did a stretch cause the dude was white. My older brother was also down with the sect but moved onto the Hebrew Isrealites(many similarities). I'll just say dudes is real radical and extreme with theirs. I dont agree with their politics but am wise enough to understand how decades of angst gives way to violent expressions..
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Postby johnnnny » February 7th, 2007, 6:22 pm

ManifestTruth wrote:decades of angst gives way to violent expressions..


only in america :(
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Postby ManifestTruth » February 7th, 2007, 6:27 pm

StreetKnowledge wrote:The New Black Panthers Are Now Stooping Down To The Same Level The Clan Was At :shock:


You mean as far as the rhetoric is concerned?? Let's not draw hasty conclusions here, my dude. Last I checked the Klan was on some lynching,
bombing, terrorist shit. For now, the only parallels 'tween the two are the separatist line they both like pushing. NOI preached the same stuff for over half a century now and their followers are not allowed to even carry pistols unless.......... Put it this way, the cats people need to worry about are the ones they don't know about it.. I'll leave it there.
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