How Do You Feel About Referring To Black Women As B****/Hoes

These concepts are socially constructed and have been given much weight. What are your thoughts?

Re: How Do You Feel About Referring To Black Women As B****/

Postby B.M.W-Soldier » December 3rd, 2004, 10:59 pm

Just because you never heard it doesn't mean it was never said come to corwn height brooklyn and I can most def produce evidence for you
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Re: How Do You Feel About Referring To Black Women As B****/

Postby Common Sense » December 5th, 2004, 10:30 am

B.M.W-Soldier wrote:Just because you never heard it doesn't mean it was never said come to corwn height brooklyn and I can most def produce evidence for you

I was commenting more on a general term, but your probably right.
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Re: How Do You Feel About Referring To Black Women As B****/

Postby Individual » December 5th, 2004, 10:45 am

Common Sense wrote:
Individual wrote:Why did it have to be black women??

Your right, this could apply to all women, but for sake of this thread, it was named black women, since that's where most of this abuse is aimed toward.

Individual wrote:i call all girls women n hoes..

So you don't have respect for women? Respect for your mother, aunts, grandmother????? etc.

Individual wrote:and it aint the street and homie or music influence..

You don't need to be from this, to have no respect for women.

Individual wrote:its my own experiences and seeing how each and every one of them are women n hos..they're scanless

This could be true, but I would have to give you the benefit of the doubt, that you don't have too much experience with women.
heck...you may even have a daughter one day.


I got respect for my family..men n women..but other girls No..I dont treat them like shit..i just dont got no love for no trick ass bitch
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Re: How Do You Feel About Referring To Black Women As B****/

Postby Common Sense » December 5th, 2004, 10:56 am

LOL...................I hear ya.
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Re: How Do You Feel About Referring To Black Women As B****/

Postby sexy365 » December 5th, 2004, 2:04 pm

i'm feelin you Red_Diamond!
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Re: How Do You Feel About Referring To Black Women As B****/

Postby SD4life » December 5th, 2004, 4:27 pm

I don't really talk with black women, but I still think its wrong.
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Re: How Do You Feel About Referring To Black Women As B****/

Postby Pumpkin2 » December 26th, 2004, 11:41 pm

SD4life wrote:I don't really talk with black women, but I still think its wrong.
DEFINATION IN WEBESTER DICTIONARY -A BIT-H IS A FEMALE DOG......NOW WHEN U USED THAT WORD U TALKING ABOUT FEMALES.....AND GUESS WHAT WE ALL HAVE A MOTHER AND I HOPE SHE WAS A FEMALE......SO THE NEXT TIME U USED THAT WORD...ASK YOURE SELF ARE YOU CALLING YOURE MOTHER A DOG.
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Postby Red_Diamond » December 27th, 2004, 12:10 am

lmao u right but think about it ppl call each other dogs anyway just in a differemt way ex: What up dawg, but there is something I wanna know and I'm bout to start a topic bout it right now
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Re: How Do You Feel About Referring To Black Women As B****/

Postby the_urban_prince » December 28th, 2004, 2:08 am

Common Sense wrote:These B***h'es and hoes are somebody's mothers, sisters and aunts, and I'm sure if you dug deep enough you would find a troubled soul in desparate need of help........not more abuse.
there isn't always a mellow dramatic story behind it.sometimes their just bitches and hoes nothing more nothing less.men also fall into the bitches and hoes category.your not being objective enough.
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Postby Pumpkin2 » December 28th, 2004, 5:46 pm

Red_Diamond wrote:lmao u right but think about it ppl call each other dogs anyway just in a differemt way ex: What up dawg, but there is something I wanna know and I'm bout to start a topic bout it right now
but the word bit-h is used has an insult...or a word to put down someone...its destructive lanague...which is a risk factor for violence.thats why its important to know who u are and these putdowns...punk...bitch...buster.....etc. u wont responed to ,cause u know who you are.but if u dont know who u are u might think u are a bitch..or punk.......and then it escalates to a fight.
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Re: How Do You Feel About Referring To Black Women As B****/

Postby FLUID » December 29th, 2004, 8:25 am

I CALL ALL WOMEN BITCHES, HOES, SLUTS, BUSTDOWNS, & TRAMPS. IT DON'T MATTER WHAT RACE THEY ARE--WHITE, BLACK, HISPANIC, ASIAN. IF THEY ACTIN LIKE ONE, CALL EM' ONE.
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Re: How Do You Feel About Referring To Black Women As B****/

Postby Red_Diamond » December 29th, 2004, 9:17 pm

FLUID wrote:I CALL ALL WOMEN women, HOES, SLUTS, BUSTDOWNS, & TRAMPS. IT DON'T MATTER WHAT RACE THEY ARE--WHITE, BLACK, HISPANIC, ASIAN. IF THEY ACTIN LIKE ONE, CALL EM' ONE.


What the hell is a BUSTDOWN?
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Re: How Do You Feel About Referring To Black Women As B****/

Postby FLUID » December 30th, 2004, 1:20 am

^^^^^A LITTLE BITCH YOU DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT. YOU MIGHT DRINK with HER OR SMOKE HER OUT BUT AFTER ALL THAT YOU JUST GON' BUST HER ASS DOWN AND GO ON ABOUT YO' BUSINESS.
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Re: How Do You Feel About Referring To Black Women As B****/

Postby Red_Diamond » December 30th, 2004, 1:29 am

FLUID wrote:^^^^^A LITTLE BITCH YOU DON'T GIVE A fu-- ABOUT. YOU MIGHT DRINK with HER OR SMOKE HER OUT BUT AFTER ALL THAT YOU JUST GON' BUST HER ASS DOWN AND GO ON ABOUT YO' BUSINESS.



oh ok
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Re: How Do You Feel About Referring To Black Women As B****/

Postby Common Sense » December 30th, 2004, 10:12 am

FLUID wrote:^^^^^A LITTLE BITCH YOU DON'T GIVE A fu-- ABOUT. YOU MIGHT DRINK with HER OR SMOKE HER OUT BUT AFTER ALL THAT YOU JUST GON' BUST HER ASS DOWN AND GO ON ABOUT YO' BUSINESS.

So this is how you feel about women? Practicing traits like this, your relationship with women in generally is not going to be very good.

Your chances of marrying a descent quality women will be slim to none due to your limited insight about women.

On the other hand, to give respect, you must have self respect.

Also you gotta remember: What goes around comes around, even from women.
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Re: How Do You Feel About Referring To Black Women As B****/

Postby FLUID » December 30th, 2004, 10:37 am

^^^^^MAN I'M TALKIN BOUT BUSTDOWN BROADS. IT'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A BUSTDOWN AND A WOMAN. I KNOW HOW TO TREAT WIFEY.
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Re: How Do You Feel About Referring To Black Women As B****/

Postby Common Sense » December 30th, 2004, 12:59 pm

^^^
LOL..........Good to hear. Some bustdown chicks try to bustdown fellas at first opportunity. Alway's tryin' to catch a fool slippin'.....LOL.
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Re: How Do You Feel About Referring To Black Women As B****/

Postby FLUID » December 30th, 2004, 3:18 pm

^^^^^AH HELL YEAH, MOST BUSTDOWN BROADS ARE BROKE SO THEY'LL TRY TO STEAL FROM YOU OR SET YOU UP. GOTTA BE CAREFUL. THEY MIGHT EVEN TRY TO CAUSE SOME DRAMA BETWEEN YOU & YOUR WIFEY.
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Re: How Do You Feel About Referring To Black Women As B****/

Postby Hell » March 18th, 2007, 1:56 pm

Common Sense wrote:Many young black men are out there still referring to black women as Bit -chezs and Hooooo'ez.

Does this send a message to our young females of what to expect from black men?

Is this really the feeling about black women or is it just another accepted sayin' like n***a.
That's what they are point blank.
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Postby Lonewolf » March 18th, 2007, 5:14 pm

When I read up on past stereotypes and shit ~~> coming from those not
from the Race & Culture . . . I never fail to notice our Mexican women
set up under the light of being quick in running away from their men and
into bed with the liberal Anglo-men. Mexican women in the past ~~> were
portayed as nothing less than "easy" and prostitutes. Even today when
people think of Mexica women in places like per say TJ, the first think that
pops into their heads is ~~> prostitutes. HOW FAR THAT IS FROM TRUTH!

I used to think about it whenever I needewd to approach a Black woman..
In my experiences and thinking ~~> they were quick to bark off at you.
To me, it seemed like they were always angry, and I used to think .. WHY?
I ain't messin' with them, and I ain't lookin' to get on top of them -- so
WHY TRIP?

NOW I UNDERSTAND SOMEWHAT . . .

SO WHY DON'T YOU BLACK MEN CRITICIZING THINK ABOUT IT
AND WORK ON IT!
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Re: How Do You Feel About Referring To Black Women As B****/

Postby oXJmAuPs2005Xo » March 19th, 2007, 2:43 pm

Common Sense wrote:Because sometimes we should be mercyful. Just because I feel a woman's lifestyle is that of a B***h and a hoe, who am I to kick her at her lowest point. She probably expects it because every other male in her life probably kicked her too, including family members.

Sometimes people learn through other people's compassion. Rather than continuing her misery......just be kind. People of color are not nearly as kind to each other as they should be.

These B***h'es and hoes are somebody's mothers, sisters and aunts, and I'm sure if you dug deep enough you would find a troubled soul in desparate need of help........not more abuse.



strong powerful post you took the words right out my mouth so to speak
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Postby Sentenza » March 19th, 2007, 3:24 pm

^^i cosign that.
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Postby Common Sense » October 3rd, 2007, 11:01 am

Isiah explains double standard on slurs in Garden trial



BY THOMAS ZAMBITO
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September 18th 2007,



In his video deposition, Knicks' coach Isiah Thomas says: 'A white male calling a black female a bitch is highly offensive. That would have violated my code of conduct.'


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Isiah Thomas was in a courtroom yesterday - not on the basketball court - but he was still playing games.

Jurors heard the Knicks coach say he wouldn't stand for a white man calling a black woman a "bitch" - but wouldn't be as angry if the same words came from the mouth of a black man.

In a videotaped deposition played for the jury at fired Knicks exec Anucha Browne Sanders' sexual harassment trial, Thomas said he drew a distinction between whites and blacks when it came to the B-word.

Asked if he was bothered by a black man calling a black female "bitch," Thomas said: "Not as much. I'm sorry to say, I do make a distinction.

"A white male calling a black female a bitch is highly offensive," Thomas said. "That would have violated my code of conduct."

"Maybe I shouldn't go there. ... A white male calling a black female, that is wrong with me. I'm not taking that. I'm not accepting that. ... That's a problem for me."
Browne Sanders was not taking it from anyone, not Thomas or his star guard Stephon Marbury.

Both are fending off her claims they used the B-word to describe her, an African-American once among the NBA's highest-ranking female executives.

"Now, have I ever used curse words around her? Yes, but at her? No," Thomas said on the video, which was projected on a big screen in a packed courtroom in the second week of the widely publicized trial.

Browne Sanders filed a $10 million suit against Thomas and Knicks' parent Madison Square Garden after the Knicks fired her in December 2005.

Thomas was so stung by the pretrial testimony he gave earlier this year that he made a rare statement as he left court.

"Please don't mischaracterize the videotape shown in court today," he pleaded, insisting, "I don't think it's right for any man to call a woman a 'bitch.'"

Marbury has admitted calling Browne Sanders a bitch but denied calling her a "black bitch."

On the video, Thomas denied ever calling Browne Sanders "bitch" or "ho," as she claims.

"Please, no," he said when asked. "Come on."

He also denied directing the F-word at her or that he was ever interested in her romantically.

"I'm not attracted to her, no," Thomas said, flashing an uncomfortable smile.

The videotape was clearly the highlight of a day in which Garden lawyers had hoped to embarrass Browne Sanders on the witness stand.

They spent six hours grilling her about questionable tax deductions she took and a trail of e-mails she sent to her boss in the waning days of her five-year stint in the Garden's front office.

Dressed in a pink jacket with black slacks, the former Northwestern basketball star remained steady and confident, even as Thomas' lawyers bore in on her to recite the precise sentences used with the B-word.

At least two jurors nodded off during the lengthy cross-examination, but perked up when the tape of Thomas, in a suit jacket with an open collar, was played.

Thomas was asked if he would have disciplined Marbury if he had found out he called Browne Sanders a "black bitch." Thomas said, "As best I could, yes."
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GUILTY!! ISAIAH THOMAS FOUND TO HAVE HARASSED FEMALE EMPLOYEE

October 02, 2007. NEW YORK - A jury decided Tuesday that New York Knicks coach Isiah Thomas sexually harassed a former top team executive, subjecting her to unwanted advances and a barrage of verbal insults, but also said he does not have to pay punitive damages.

After an ugly, three-week trial, the verdict gives Thomas a partial victory in the $10 million lawsuit filed by Anucha Browne Sanders.

The jury did find that Madison Square Garden committed harassment against the woman,

U.S. District Judge Gerard E. Lynch called it an “eminently reasonable” verdict and said the jury will be asked to return later Tuesday to hear brief arguments on punitive damages.

“I’m innocent, very innocent, and I did not do the things she has accused me in this courtroom of doing,” Thomas said. “I’m extremely disappointed that the jury did not see the facts in this case. I will appeal this, and I remain confident in the man that I am and what I stand for and the family that I have.”

Madison Square Garden also said it would appeal.

“We believe that the jury’s decision was incorrect,” MSG said in a statement. “We look forward to presenting our arguments to an appeals court, and believe they will agree that no sexual harassment took place and MSG acted properly.”

The harassment verdict was widely expected after the jury sent a note to the judge Monday indicating that it believed Thomas and the other defendants, Madison Square Garden and MSG chairman James Dolan, sexually harassed Browne Sanders, a married mother of three.

After the verdict, Browne Sanders hugged family members and friends gathered in the back of the courtroom. Thomas huddled with his lawyers, and was allowed to leave the Manhattan courthouse. Dozens of reporters and cameras gathered outside the courthouse to await his exit.

Browne Sanders, fired from her $260,000 a year job in 2006, sued Thomas and Madison Square Garden. Her case presented the Garden as “Animal House” in sneakers, a place where nepotism, sexism, crude remarks and crass language were part of the culture.

The former Northwestern college basketball star characterized Thomas as a foul-mouthed lout who initially berated her as a “bitch” and a “ho” before his anger gave way to ardor, with Thomas making unwanted advances and encouraging her to visit him “off site.”

Thomas, who was hired in December 2003, followed her to the stand and denied all her allegations. Attorneys for Thomas and the Garden also portrayed Browne Sanders as incompetent and unable to adapt once the former NBA star player arrived as the Knicks’ president.

“That’s not about sexual harassment,” MSG attorney Ronald Green said in his closing argument. “That’s about team politics.”

Thomas, who is married with two children, acknowledged trying to kiss Browne Sanders in December 2005, asking her “No love today?” when she recoiled. MSG president Steve Mills said he spoke with Thomas about the single incident, and the former point guard said it wouldn’t happen again.

In her closing argument, Browne Sanders’ attorney Anne Vladeck made note of Thomas’ charismatic style and incandescent grin.

“There is no question Mr. Thomas can be charming and flash an engaging smile,” she told the jury. “That does not give him the right to treat Browne Sanders like she is his woman.”

Dolan, who testified before Thomas, said he dismissed the team’s vice president for marketing and business operations after learning she was pressuring Garden subordinates to bolster her complaint.

The case, from its inception, proved a public relations disaster for the Knicks and the Garden, with intense coverage of the three-week trial focusing on its tawdriest aspects — star guard Stephon Marbury having sex with an intern outside a strip club, raunchy come-ons from a Marbury cousin to his Garden co-workers, Thomas’ videotaped remarks about the racial dynamics of calling a woman “a bitch.”



The trial did steer attention from the Knicks on-court woes as the team geared up for its second season with Thomas as coach. The Knicks finished 33-49 last year, and have yet to win a playoff game during the Thomas regime.

The Knicks opened training camp Tuesday in Charleston, S.C.
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Postby Common Sense » October 3rd, 2007, 11:02 am

There ya go kids. It's not o.k., just ask Isiah........ :wink:
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Postby KINGFEAR62 » October 4th, 2007, 10:36 am

If a woman acts like a bitch or a hoe why would I waste my time respecting her but if a woman acts like a respectable person I will show her respect only a fool would respect a girl that can't keep her legs closed
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Postby justice league » October 4th, 2007, 11:29 am

KINGFEAR62 wrote:If a woman acts like a bitch or a hoe why would I waste my time respecting her but if a woman acts like a respectable person I will show her respect only a fool would respect a girl that can't keep her legs closed



acting in disrespect is not acting in self respect ... THAT'S why....
being respectful is never a waste of time.


if you treat women ( or men for that manner) badly, then you are deserving to be treated badly...

only a fool would tolerate a man who sticks his dick anywhere.
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Postby Sentenza » October 4th, 2007, 12:10 pm

If a woman acts like a bitch then call her that. But i dont know what that has to do with race. You got good and bad women in every race, to the same amounts.
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Postby justice league » October 4th, 2007, 10:17 pm

you know what is most hated about so called bitches?


B.Babe
I .In
T .Total
C .Control of
H.
Herself
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Postby Sentenza » October 4th, 2007, 11:23 pm

justice league wrote:you know what is most hated about so called women?


B.Babe
I .In
T .Total
C .Control of
H.
Herself


Haha, no thats not it.
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Postby justice league » October 8th, 2007, 3:38 pm

I once heard a black comedian say somethng to the effect of ..
"dont call my Ho a Bitch!"

kinda goes the other way for whites...

white dude be sayin',
"Dont call my Bitch a Ho!"
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