Mexicans vs Puerto Ricans in Los Angeles?

[NICKELS]

There was a Puert Rican gang in East Hollywood called King Cobras - KxC. Nobody tried to wipe them out for being Ricans. They were cholos and fit right into the L.A. gang scene. They were obsorbed into 18th eventually.

i believe that ricans blending right in with 18th no denying that.

[gina]

well there has always been problems between puerto ricans and mexicans mainly because ignorant people think that everyone whom speaks spanish comes from Mexico that why most have a little grudge against Mexicans

[NICKELS]

you cant blame mexicans they were here first .....and there all over , its only natural. i remeber when italians and puertoricans didnt get along , and back in the days they even looked alike !? now thats funny.

[Lonewolf]

There was a Puert Rican gang in East Hollywood called King Cobras - KxC. Nobody tried to wipe them out for being Ricans. They were cholos and fit right into the L.A. gang scene. They were obsorbed into 18th eventually.

Ey SILEN'SOCIO, you sure they weren't WS VKKR?
Tu sabes, in their early tiempos on the West Side
they got along with WS Dieciocho and beefed with
PxF and FTR.

[Silencioso]

No, Lonewolf, it wasn't Varrio KK Rifa it was the King and Queen Cobras (note spelling difference) a Puerto Rican gang in E Hollywood or maybe Mid City. They weren't a very big gang, they were known mostly because they were the only PR gang in L.A. and people thought they were from New York! LOL

They were straight cholos, though, and the Queen Cobras were as tough as the guys. Some went to L.A. High School. They were in the same basic area as W/S Playboys and W/S 18th.

[TeeKay]

i dunno bout them bein the only gang there, what about that gang PRF, Puerto rican fellas in lynwood, they were makin some noise.

[Lonewolf]

No, Lonewolf, it wasn't Varrio KK Rifa it was the King and Queen Cobras (note spelling difference) a Puerto Rican gang in E Hollywood or maybe Mid City. They weren't a very big gang, they were known mostly because they were the only PR gang in L.A. and people thought they were from New York! LOL

They were straight cholos, though, and the Queen Cobras were as tough as the guys. Some went to L.A. High School. They were in the same basic area as W/S Playboys and W/S 18th.

Ey gracias for the "set straight"

[Sentenza]

^^^So you are still alive Lonewolf?

[Lonewolf]

Ey AW, what it is with you? . . . All good on my side.

Ey, what about in the Boxing world between Mexican
and Puerto Rican fighters >> those match ups are
always good cards to watch.

[NICKELS]

the mexicans dominate boxing for latinos ,over other hispanics .

[looneytunes1]

the mexicans dominate boxing for latinos ,over other hispanics

naw, theirs just more of them is all.

Trinidad > De La Hoya

[NICKELS]

true and they got way more titile holders.......there tough.

[NORTHBOUND99]

the mexicans dominate boxing for latinos ,over other hispanics

naw, theirs just more of them is all.

Trinidad > De La Hoya

fock up rican the le hoya> trinifag

[perongregory]

black latino fighters put it down the best.

[ManifestTruth]

Black Latino fighters put it down the best??? Word, name me a couple..
Stylistically so that maybe true but in terms of records and achievements no one can discount Latino fighers, regardless of bloodlines:

Salvador Sanchez, Bazooka Limon, Julio Cesar Chavez, The Marquez Bros, Marco Antonio Barrera, Carlos Zarate, Erik Morales, Jose Luis Castillo, there's so many awesome fighters coming out and who've come out of Mexico cant name them all. Granted these are all lighter weight fighters.

That Argentine dude Carlos Monzon ran the middleweights in the 70's, had
the record for successive title defenses til Bernard Hopkins broke it.

Roberto Duran was one of the best fighters of any weight class in my opinion. Just a ferocious, badass cat right there.

Oscar was schooling Tito, should've stayed in the pocket rather than get on his tricycle, would've wont he fight easily..

Tito Trinidad, Wilfred Benitez, Teofilio Stevenson(Cubano heavy, owned
dudes for like, three Olympics, never turned pro, didnt want to defect), Joel Casamayor, Kid Gavilan just to name a few badass Afro Latino fighers..

[andrew]

all us latinos......come in all sizes shapes and colors

[Black_Kingz86]

When a Latino boxer wins a heavyweight title or even a light heavyweight OR welterweight then maybe y'all can open ur mouth but till then y'all hush Latinos still got a long way to go in the Boxing world baby!!!

[oso1]

When a Latino boxer wins a heavyweight title or even a light heavyweight OR welterweight then maybe y'all can open ur mouth but till then y'all hush Latinos still got a long way to go in the Boxing world baby!!!

What ? .................doesnt matter what weight division a fighter is in, a great fighter is a great fighter.

white, black, latino, asain what ever does not matter. look at the heavy weight division right now, not too exciting compared to the lighter weights at this time.

Its funny how boxing fans like to use race as to compare whos more dominant/superior, but boxers themselves have respect for other boxers regardless of race or weight division.

I just got through reading Heavyweight champion Larry Holmes's autobioghraphy, and he mentions how he respects ODLH , for the fighter he is.

As for welterweight champions, Oscar De La Hoya, Carlos Palomino, Ricardo Mayorga and Felix Trinidad are just a few latino champions that have been title holders.

[100]

Ricans got indan in them too. Taino indian. but the truth is they got more black because the spanish killed so much of the tainos.

NOT ALL OF THEM

[Silencioso]

Puerto Ricans have indian blood but not on the level of Mexicans, Peruvians, Bolivians, Ecuadorans etc. There's no such thing as a Puerto Rican mestizo. They have about 10-15% indian ancestry on average. In Mexico that would be considered white.

[The Panch]

Puerto Ricans have indian blood but not on the level of Mexicans, Peruvians, Bolivians, Ecuadorans etc. There's no such thing as a Puerto Rican mestizo. They have about 10-15% indian ancestry on average. In Mexico that would be considered white.

I dont understand what you're saying "There's not such thing a a Puerto Rican mestizo" Have you seen Jimmy Smitts or Luis Guzman?? Come on doggy.

[Lonewolf]

Puerto Ricans have indian blood but not on the level of Mexicans, Peruvians, Bolivians, Ecuadorans etc. There's no such thing as a Puerto Rican mestizo. They have about 10-15% indian ancestry on average. In Mexico that would be considered white.

I dont understand what you're saying "There's not such thing a a Puerto Rican mestizo" Have you seen Jimmy Smitts or Luis Guzman?? Come on doggy.

Would a Puerto Rican Boriqua/Boricua equal as like a Mexican Mestizo?

[The Panch]

Puerto Ricans have indian blood but not on the level of Mexicans, Peruvians, Bolivians, Ecuadorans etc. There's no such thing as a Puerto Rican mestizo. They have about 10-15% indian ancestry on average. In Mexico that would be considered white.

I dont understand what you're saying "There's not such thing a a Puerto Rican mestizo" Have you seen Jimmy Smitts or Luis Guzman?? Come on doggy.

Would a Puerto Rican Boriqua/Boricua equal as like a Mexican Mestizo?

That's no comparison. Puerto Ricans are a very diverse group of people as opposed to Mexican's who's majority is Mestizo.

[Lonewolf]

I don't much about San Juan, Puerto Rico or Boricuas, but I would assume that you have the
mix of Western European (Spaniard/French & English) mixed in with Blacks and Natives just
like us in Mexico right?

Mexico is a big a*s country my man, and it's people and mix of people is "varied" depending
what pare of the country you're from. For example, if you hit the gulf coast along Veracruz or
the Pacific coast around Guerrero, you find plenty of Black mixed in with the Natives. If you
hit the central states like Michoacan & Jalisco, there's some of the most olden mixes of Central
Indian with Spaniards. If you hit the northern central states, you will find tall white, blonde hair
blue eyed Mexicans (propably like Martinez, lol ) and that's because of teir mixture
with French soldiers and American adventurers and frontiersman. If you hit the states like
Sonora and Sinaloa, again you finf the mix between Spaniard and Native, only these natives
were not lil darker skin Indiand, no sir, these natives were tall and bronze skinned, you know,
like the Yaquis and Apaches, big mofo's. Then you hit the states like Puebla and Tlaxcala, and
there you find some of the purer un-mixed Mexican Natives like the ones you see at the border
selling candy and bubblegum <~~ true original Mexican Natives of shorter statue and dark skin
with little facial hair and rounded face and body frame with long dark hair. These are only some
of the many differences between the "Mestizo" Raza of Mexico, so I don't know man? Tell me
about yours?

[The Panch]

All that shit you mentioned holds little weight in the United States. White Mexicans take up less than 1/10 of Mexico's population and they take up far less than that here in the U.S. Blacks take up less than 1% and the vast majority of those are in South Mexico and not messin with the U.S. The majority of Chicanos are either Native/Spanish or pure blood Native with Spanish being a very distant 3rd.(I know quite a few "anglo" Mexicans, but I live in half Mexican town, sooo....)

[Lonewolf]

Somewhere along the line we went in different directions, maybe I need to work on my communication. .

I was referring to Mexicans in "general", wether here in Amerikka or down south of The Line. I ain't never
met a Mexican that differentiates in terms of who's Mestizo or not (who's more native or not). Now if you're
talking about Chicanos, well then, that's another side of the story; and if you're talking about white-Mexicans
those we call Españoles, Criolos or Gallegos ~~> "NOT MEXICANS".

[The Panch]

Being white or Brown doesnt define you're Mexican. A white Mexican is just as Mexican as a Brown one. Just cause it derived from "Mexica" dont mean shit cause whites still run Mexico.

[Lonewolf]

Being white or Brown doesnt define you're Mexican. A white Mexican is just as Mexican as a Brown one. Just cause it derived from "Mexica" dont mean shit cause whites still run Mexico.

tHE WAY "mEXICAN" is understood "outside of Mexico proper" is not quite understood the same. In Mexico and with it's people, things are viewed and understood differently than per say ~~> Americanized "Latinos/Hispanics" > That's Real!

[Silencioso]

I Meant there's no true PR meztizo (half White half indian). There;s not enough Indian blood in PR to have mestizos. Jimmy Smits is half Surinamese. He has Indoneasian blood.

[TomTom]

Ricans got indan in them too. Taino indian. but the truth is they got more black because the spanish killed so much of the tainos.

this is sooooo true and i got plenty of PR homeys that tell me this to..shit i got PR homeys that look black, just like me..

[perongregory]

What alot of people dont take in mind is on the islands and in Latin America in general, the Europeans usually brought more Africans than they did their own people. Mix that with the csste sytems and the native population you have a lot of colored people mixing and then trying to mix with white to move up in racial rank. In America, you have a native culture the whites are beating back, a small black population compared to whites so the miscegenation is gonna play out a little different than in other parts of the Americas.

[The Panch]

I Meant there's no true PR meztizo (half White half indian). There;s not enough Indian blood in PR to have mestizos. Jimmy Smits is half Surinamese. He has Indoneasian blood.

Bottom line is, that's a lie. I know Puerto Ricans who are easy to mistake for Mexican/Central American cause they're so Indegeous looking.



And how can you dispute Luis Guzman?? Dude looks almost entirely Indegenous with some obvious black in em cause of his hair.