The Browning of America

These concepts are socially constructed and have been given much weight. What are your thoughts?

Postby whoknows » March 18th, 2006, 7:59 am

perongregory wrote:They discuss and talk. But the intellectuals can't take action like a huey, martin, or malcolm because the times aren't ripe enough yet, some of them are scared to die, and the majority of people who hold real power over all Americans are whites.


and there it is..... they also keep us divided blue vs red, field niggas vs house niggas, brown vs black, christian vs muslims.. they use these same tactics in the arab world, they supply an arab country with weapons then have them kill they own people.. as soons as you don't do what they ask then they wanna lock yo ass up, kill you or go to war with ya.

yall can't see that they killing off colored people.

stay true to the struggle biaaaatch, it's us against them..
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Postby Old Shatterhand » March 18th, 2006, 4:52 pm

^ A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
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Postby Old Shatterhand » March 18th, 2006, 5:03 pm

Does anyone else see a logical disconnect here?

whoknows wrote:everything that blackmanofhonor says is the truth. he ain't doing nuthin but preaching the same shit that mlk, huey and malcom preached when they walked the earth and that is that america is racist and as long as we have racist hypocrites like you that think blacks are making up the problems that they face in a white society racism will never end.


"in my neighborhood you would be a victim honkey.This aint no lil rock bitch this is the Mil.Most of your own gang dont except you because you are a honkey.nothing but what we call a fu-- boy,send off ass mark.Ill bet your homies put dick all in your black dick craving pale sisters and probably your moms too.Dont disrespect real niggas like me white boy cause if you were in the Mil You would get no respect.Corny ass mayo smelling honkey."

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Postby blackmanofhonor » March 18th, 2006, 5:16 pm

Old Shatterhand wrote:Does anyone else see a logical disconnect here?

whoknows wrote:everything that blackmanofhonor says is the truth. he ain't doing nuthin but preaching the same shit that mlk, huey and malcom preached when they walked the earth and that is that america is racist and as long as we have racist hypocrites like you that think blacks are making up the problems that they face in a white society racism will never end.


"in my neighborhood you would be a victim honkey.This aint no lil rock bitch this is the Mil.Most of your own gang dont except you because you are a honkey.nothing but what we call a fu-- boy,send off ass mark.Ill bet your homies put dick all in your black dick craving pale sisters and probably your moms too.Dont disrespect real niggas like me white boy cause if you were in the Mil You would get no respect.Corny ass mayo smelling honkey."

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Its hard to like a people that oppresses your people.
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Postby se11 » March 18th, 2006, 5:36 pm

CAN YOU READ OR ARE YOU JUST STUPID. in that post i said NOTHING NOT ONE #%@&#%@ THING ABOUT THE BLACK RACE. NOT ONE THING. EVERYTHING I SAID IS TARGETING YOU AND YOUR STUPIDITY. i'm tired of you bitching and moaning and complaining and blaming other people here.

you say that you speak the truth, well i just gave you the #%@&#%@ truth about your life and you call me evil? i dont think YOU can handle the truth.


i love the way you dodge my posts.
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Postby Old Shatterhand » March 18th, 2006, 7:46 pm

blackmanofhonor wrote:
Old Shatterhand wrote:Does anyone else see a logical disconnect here?

whoknows wrote:everything that blackmanofhonor says is the truth. he ain't doing nuthin but preaching the same shit that mlk, huey and malcom preached when they walked the earth and that is that america is racist and as long as we have racist hypocrites like you that think blacks are making up the problems that they face in a white society racism will never end.


"in my neighborhood you would be a victim honkey.This aint no lil rock bitch this is the Mil.Most of your own gang dont except you because you are a honkey.nothing but what we call a fu-- boy,send off ass mark.Ill bet your homies put dick all in your black dick craving pale sisters and probably your moms too.Dont disrespect real niggas like me white boy cause if you were in the Mil You would get no respect.Corny ass mayo smelling honkey."

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Its hard to like a people that oppresses your people.


By the time racism grows in an individual to overshadow all else warping their mentality and behavior, it is firmly entrenched. Racists of one color fighting with racists of another color are not in a superior moral position despite all their arguments to the contrary. I've never met a racist who didn't feel justified in their racism regardless of their color even as they blame racists of another color for the same thing they practice (or would practice if given the chance).
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Postby blackmanofhonor » March 19th, 2006, 8:23 am

Old Shatterhand wrote:
blackmanofhonor wrote:
Old Shatterhand wrote:Does anyone else see a logical disconnect here?

whoknows wrote:everything that blackmanofhonor says is the truth. he ain't doing nuthin but preaching the same shit that mlk, huey and malcom preached when they walked the earth and that is that america is racist and as long as we have racist hypocrites like you that think blacks are making up the problems that they face in a white society racism will never end.


"in my neighborhood you would be a victim honkey.This aint no lil rock bitch this is the Mil.Most of your own gang dont except you because you are a honkey.nothing but what we call a fu-- boy,send off ass mark.Ill bet your homies put dick all in your black dick craving pale sisters and probably your moms too.Dont disrespect real niggas like me white boy cause if you were in the Mil You would get no respect.Corny ass mayo smelling honkey."

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Its hard to like a people that oppresses your people.


By the time racism grows in an individual to overshadow all else warping their mentality and behavior, it is firmly entrenched. Racists of one color fighting with racists of another color are not in a superior moral position despite all their arguments to the contrary. I've never met a racist who didn't feel justified in their racism regardless of their color even as they blame racists of another color for the same thing they practice (or would practice if given the chance).


If given the chance I would not do to others what whites do.Its cruel,its robotic,and its heartless.Im supposed to like a people that obviously want to see the worse for me and my family?We get treated like we arent even human,and Im supposed to be Ok with this?
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Postby none for you » March 19th, 2006, 10:35 am

blackmanofhonor wrote:
Old Shatterhand wrote:
blackmanofhonor wrote:
Old Shatterhand wrote:Does anyone else see a logical disconnect here?

whoknows wrote:everything that blackmanofhonor says is the truth. he ain't doing nuthin but preaching the same shit that mlk, huey and malcom preached when they walked the earth and that is that america is racist and as long as we have racist hypocrites like you that think blacks are making up the problems that they face in a white society racism will never end.


"in my neighborhood you would be a victim honkey.This aint no lil rock bitch this is the Mil.Most of your own gang dont except you because you are a honkey.nothing but what we call a fu-- boy,send off ass mark.Ill bet your homies put dick all in your black dick craving pale sisters and probably your moms too.Dont disrespect real niggas like me white boy cause if you were in the Mil You would get no respect.Corny ass mayo smelling honkey."

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Its hard to like a people that oppresses your people.


By the time racism grows in an individual to overshadow all else warping their mentality and behavior, it is firmly entrenched. Racists of one color fighting with racists of another color are not in a superior moral position despite all their arguments to the contrary. I've never met a racist who didn't feel justified in their racism regardless of their color even as they blame racists of another color for the same thing they practice (or would practice if given the chance).


If given the chance I would not do to others what whites do.Its cruel,its robotic,and its heartless.Im supposed to like a people that obviously want to see the worse for me and my family?We get treated like we arent even human,and Im supposed to be Ok with this?



OMG!!!! do you even hear your own voice?!?
you do far worse than who and what you chastize.

in your speck of a brain you have dehumanized whites to the point they arent even alive to you.
calling ALL whites 'robotic and heartless' is you being a blatant hypocrite.

You really are the biggestracist MF I have ever met as well,
Some are pretty vile about it, but you take the cake!
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Postby blackmanofhonor » March 19th, 2006, 12:21 pm

realize the real lies wrote:
blackmanofhonor wrote:
Old Shatterhand wrote:
blackmanofhonor wrote:
Old Shatterhand wrote:Does anyone else see a logical disconnect here?

whoknows wrote:everything that blackmanofhonor says is the truth. he ain't doing nuthin but preaching the same shit that mlk, huey and malcom preached when they walked the earth and that is that america is racist and as long as we have racist hypocrites like you that think blacks are making up the problems that they face in a white society racism will never end.


"in my neighborhood you would be a victim honkey.This aint no lil rock bitch this is the Mil.Most of your own gang dont except you because you are a honkey.nothing but what we call a fu-- boy,send off ass mark.Ill bet your homies put dick all in your black dick craving pale sisters and probably your moms too.Dont disrespect real niggas like me white boy cause if you were in the Mil You would get no respect.Corny ass mayo smelling honkey."

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Its hard to like a people that oppresses your people.


By the time racism grows in an individual to overshadow all else warping their mentality and behavior, it is firmly entrenched. Racists of one color fighting with racists of another color are not in a superior moral position despite all their arguments to the contrary. I've never met a racist who didn't feel justified in their racism regardless of their color even as they blame racists of another color for the same thing they practice (or would practice if given the chance).


If given the chance I would not do to others what whites do.Its cruel,its robotic,and its heartless.Im supposed to like a people that obviously want to see the worse for me and my family?We get treated like we arent even human,and Im supposed to be Ok with this?



OMG!!!! do you even hear your own voice?!?
you do far worse than who and what you chastize.

in your speck of a brain you have dehumanized whites to the point they arent even alive to you.
calling ALL whites 'robotic and heartless' is you being a blatant hypocrite.

You really are the biggestracist MF I have ever met as well,
Some are pretty vile about it, but you take the cake!


Whites as a whole are robotic and heartless.Look at how they treat blacks and native americans.

Me speaking about this is ''far worse'' than blocking a specific group from employment and rounding them up in prison in your opinion?Or murdering the majority of a people,taking thier land,and putting the few remaining survivors on reservations?
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Postby DC » March 19th, 2006, 3:32 pm

^^^^^^^^^ I feel sorry for you man, you must have some deep issues that need to be sorted out.
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Postby blackmanofhonor » March 19th, 2006, 3:59 pm

DC wrote:^^^^^^^^^ I feel sorry for you man, you must have some deep issues that need to be sorted out.


we all have deep issues with a greedy majority who thinks its ok that we get unequal,sub human treatment.
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Postby blackmanofhonor » March 19th, 2006, 4:00 pm

If I enslaved and robbed your people,then discriminated against them to the point to where most were unemployed and in poverty,you would be pissed off to bitch.
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Postby blackmanofhonor » March 19th, 2006, 4:10 pm

would you think it was ok if your people made up less than 3% of a state and over 44% of its prisons?


would you think it was ok if another groups criminals got jobs easier than you,even if you didnt have a record and the same work qualifications?

would you think it was ok if more of your ethnicity was in prison than college?


would you think its ok that you get harsher sentences for crimes because of your skin color?


would you think its ok if the majority of your people were flat out unemployed,and the vast majority of the rest were underemployed?

would you think it was ok if 10% of your population was in fucking prison?

would you think its ok if i glorified people that held your people as property,raped your women,divided your families,etc?
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Postby blackmanofhonor » March 19th, 2006, 4:29 pm

''oh everythings so great in america.Whites are doing fine,and since whites are the only ones that matter,everything is great.''

is that how im supposed to think?
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Postby se11 » March 19th, 2006, 4:45 pm

blackmanofhonor wrote:''oh everythings so great in america.Whites are doing fine,and since whites are the only ones that matter,everything is great.''

is that how im supposed to think?


you call white people dirty pieces of shit and the scum of the earth, why the fuck should we care about whats going on in your life? you clearly dont give two shits about us, why should we do any different?
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Postby se11 » March 19th, 2006, 4:47 pm

If I enslaved and robbed your people,then discriminated against them to the point to where most were unemployed and in poverty,you would be pissed off to bitch.


yeah, if YOU did it to ME. not if your great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandfather did it to my great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandfather.
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Postby se11 » March 19th, 2006, 4:48 pm

blackmanofhonor wrote:
DC wrote:^^^^^^^^^ I feel sorry for you man, you must have some deep issues that need to be sorted out.


we all have deep issues with a greedy majority who thinks its ok that we get unequal,sub human treatment.


only you have issues. every black person that has a successful job, a family, and is living a happy life has no issues. and don't you have a name for those people? oh yeah, you call them sell outs.
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Postby none for you » March 19th, 2006, 5:16 pm

blackmanofhonor wrote:
realize the real lies wrote:
blackmanofhonor wrote:
Old Shatterhand wrote:
blackmanofhonor wrote:
Old Shatterhand wrote:Does anyone else see a logical disconnect here?

whoknows wrote:everything that blackmanofhonor says is the truth. he ain't doing nuthin but preaching the same shit that mlk, huey and malcom preached when they walked the earth and that is that america is racist and as long as we have racist hypocrites like you that think blacks are making up the problems that they face in a white society racism will never end.


"in my neighborhood you would be a victim honkey.This aint no lil rock bitch this is the Mil.Most of your own gang dont except you because you are a honkey.nothing but what we call a fu-- boy,send off ass mark.Ill bet your homies put dick all in your black dick craving pale sisters and probably your moms too.Dont disrespect real niggas like me white boy cause if you were in the Mil You would get no respect.Corny ass mayo smelling honkey."

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Its hard to like a people that oppresses your people.


By the time racism grows in an individual to overshadow all else warping their mentality and behavior, it is firmly entrenched. Racists of one color fighting with racists of another color are not in a superior moral position despite all their arguments to the contrary. I've never met a racist who didn't feel justified in their racism regardless of their color even as they blame racists of another color for the same thing they practice (or would practice if given the chance).


If given the chance I would not do to others what whites do.Its cruel,its robotic,and its heartless.Im supposed to like a people that obviously want to see the worse for me and my family?We get treated like we arent even human,and Im supposed to be Ok with this?



OMG!!!! do you even hear your own voice?!?
you do far worse than who and what you chastize.

in your speck of a brain you have dehumanized whites to the point they arent even alive to you.
calling ALL whites 'robotic and heartless' is you being a blatant hypocrite.

You really are the biggestracist MF I have ever met as well,
Some are pretty vile about it, but you take the cake!


Whites as a whole are robotic and heartless.Look at how they treat blacks and native americans.

Me speaking about this is ''far worse'' than blocking a specific group from employment and rounding them up in prison in your opinion?Or murdering the majority of a people,taking thier land,and putting the few remaining survivors on reservations?


you crack me up!

ok I am done trying to reason with a mentally ill individual.
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Postby blackmanofhonor » March 19th, 2006, 10:43 pm

se11 wrote:
blackmanofhonor wrote:
DC wrote:^^^^^^^^^ I feel sorry for you man, you must have some deep issues that need to be sorted out.


we all have deep issues with a greedy majority who thinks its ok that we get unequal,sub human treatment.


only you have issues. every black person that has a successful job, a family, and is living a happy life has no issues. and don't you have a name for those people? oh yeah, you call them sell outs.


Less than 8% of black men have successful jobs.The majority of us have no jobs.You evil devils keep us unemployed and in the joint.
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Postby Sentenza » March 20th, 2006, 12:04 am

blackmanofhonor wrote:
Whites as a whole are robotic and heartless.Look at how they treat blacks and native americans.

Me speaking about this is ''far worse'' than blocking a specific group from employment and rounding them up in prison in your opinion?Or murdering the majority of a people,taking thier land,and putting the few remaining survivors on reservations?


Yea white people did that. But would you swear to god that black people wouldnt do that if they "would get the chance to"?
Look at africa blacks are racist towards each other and kill each other off by the millions due to conflicts that are older than the colonial times (Rwanda, Angola, South Africa)

I used to know a guy from South Africa, and yes he was quite racist and he was white, but he told me that where he worked -in the construction business- if you had a gang of Zulu workers, you just had to employ an overseer from the rival tribe and they would work their asses off, cause the overseer would be super discriminating and brutal to them due to thousand years of tribal rivalry.

Hutus and Tutsis were killing each other off saying that the opposing side is racially inferior.
Northern Sudanese are killing off the Christian minority in the South.
That conflict is also racially and tribaly motivated.

Lets recognize that racism is something that fucked the world up from day one and therefore has to be opposed, since it is based on lies, hate and ineducation but this for racism against all races.

I mean can you prove scientifically that white skin makes you greedy, evil and brutal? Whats the name of the gene that makes us whites that way?
Or would you say that its an ideological, maybe cultural thing?
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Postby perongregory » March 20th, 2006, 2:04 am

The sudanese northerners who kill the southern sudanese have Arab blood in them and think they are racially superir, therefore killing of their brothers.

The hutus and tutsis lived with their rivalry for hundreds of years, then the belgiums invaded, king Leopold II took advantage of their tribal rivalry and exacberated it to the state which led to the tutsi massacre. Colonialsim had a lot of to do with that situation.

I don't know about that South African ex., but I'm sure the Afrikaneers took full advantage of old tribal rivalries as well.
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Postby blackmanofhonor » March 20th, 2006, 8:58 am

Sentenza wrote:.

I mean can you prove scientifically that white skin makes you greedy, evil and brutal? Whats the name of the gene that makes us whites that way?
Or would you say that its an ideological, maybe cultural thing?


Its a cultural and ideological thing.
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Postby se11 » March 20th, 2006, 12:44 pm

blackmanofhonor wrote:
se11 wrote:
blackmanofhonor wrote:
DC wrote:^^^^^^^^^ I feel sorry for you man, you must have some deep issues that need to be sorted out.


we all have deep issues with a greedy majority who thinks its ok that we get unequal,sub human treatment.


only you have issues. every black person that has a successful job, a family, and is living a happy life has no issues. and don't you have a name for those people? oh yeah, you call them sell outs.


Less than 8% of black men have successful jobs.The majority of us have no jobs.You evil devils keep us unemployed and in the joint.


if you believe that your pathetic.
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Postby blackmanofhonor » March 20th, 2006, 3:27 pm

se11 wrote:
blackmanofhonor wrote:
se11 wrote:
blackmanofhonor wrote:
DC wrote:^^^^^^^^^ I feel sorry for you man, you must have some deep issues that need to be sorted out.


we all have deep issues with a greedy majority who thinks its ok that we get unequal,sub human treatment.


only you have issues. every black person that has a successful job, a family, and is living a happy life has no issues. and don't you have a name for those people? oh yeah, you call them sell outs.


Less than 8% of black men have successful jobs.The majority of us have no jobs.You evil devils keep us unemployed and in the joint.


if you believe that your pathetic.


This is true,most black people know it.I can prove it.Of coarse as the typical white guy you think you know our situation better than we do.
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Postby blackmanofhonor » March 20th, 2006, 3:29 pm

In my city the official unemployment stats for black men is at 59%...but in reality its much higher.I would estimate at least 70% of us here are unemployed.And its like that in every city.
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Postby se11 » March 20th, 2006, 3:32 pm

if it is really less than 8% of black men have successful jobs, than its not the system its the black man.
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Postby blackmanofhonor » March 20th, 2006, 3:33 pm

se11 wrote:if it is really less than 8% of black men have successful jobs, than its not the system its the black man.


So rampant discrimination has nothing to do with it?
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Postby se11 » March 20th, 2006, 3:35 pm

lack of care, effort, and will to advance are the reason 92% of a people have shitty or no jobs.

i dont even believe your statement about less than 8% have successful jobs, so just forget about it. im just saying the only way that could be possible is if people just dont care.
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Postby blackmanofhonor » March 20th, 2006, 3:38 pm

se11 wrote:lack of care, effort, and will to advance are the reason 92% of a people have _____ or no jobs.

i dont even believe your statement about less than 8% have successful jobs, so just forget about it. im just saying the only way that could be possible is if people just dont care.



So your peoples widespread,institutionilized discrimination against us in the job market have nothing at all to do with it,and we just want to be broke and in poverty huh?
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Postby blackmanofhonor » March 20th, 2006, 3:41 pm

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Yet another study finds that racial discrimination is alive and well in the hiring process, and it's keeping black men in metro Milwaukee on the unemployment rolls.

The study offers this fictional scenario:

A young, white, male high school graduate with a felony conviction applies in person for entry level jobs as a driver, a dishwasher, a laborer, warehouse worker and production worker that are advertised in the newspaper and admits to employers that he served 18 months in prison for possession of cocaine with intent to sell.

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A young black man with similar education, work history and style of presentation, but with no criminal record, applies for the same jobs.

Who do you think is more likely to be called back?

If you picked the white man with the felony conviction, you guessed right.

This study offers evidence that discrimination remains a major factor in the economic lives of black men, and highlights the fear and misunderstanding of black males that permeate the local job market.

Devah Pager, a sociologist at Northwestern University in Evanston, Ill., sent equally matched pairs of testers - two black and two white - to apply for low-skilled jobs at 350 places of employment in the Milwaukee area and found that white ex-offenders were more likely to be called back for an interview than black applicants who had no criminal record.

Students test employers
In this detailed study, bright, articulate, college students posed as job applicants. Even though the results were strikingly close, black men without criminal records were called back only 14% of the time, while whites with criminal records were called back 17% of the time.

The study, titled "The Mark of a Criminal Record," was conducted in Milwaukee between June and December 2001, and the results were released last month.

"It shows there's a great deal of work that has to be done in the education of employers and working on attitudes," says Julia Taylor, president of the Greater Milwaukee Committee. "This type of racial disparity in employment practices really impacts us as a region. It impacts our work force, and it really impacts how the inner-city moves forward."

Pager chose Milwaukee for her experiment because it is representative of most large metropolitan areas in its size, racial demographics and industrial base, she says.

[b]The study's findings would surprise few African-Americans in this city, who know from experience that this kind of discrimination exists in the job market. Research shows that white Americans, however, have been led to think that direct, racial discrimination of this nature has become less of a problem in our society.[/b]It was even surprising to Pager, a young white woman.

"I expected that there would be an effect of race. I thought the effect of a criminal record would swamp other effects," Pager says. "That assumption was clearly wrong. It really suggests that stereotypes and assumptions about black males are very much a factor in hiring decisions."

Facing tougher odds
The study demonstrates the increased odds black male ex-offenders face in finding employment and successfully reintegrating into the economic mainstream, says Lenard Wells, chairman of the Milwaukee Parole Commission and a former Milwaukee police officer.

"It's as if there's a concerted effort to keep black men from getting employment, to keep them oppressed," says Wells, former president of the League of Martin, an organization of black Milwaukee police officers.

"We say we want to reintegrate individuals into the community. We say that we want to do something about unemployment in the black community, yet we want to pretend that it's a criminal record that prevents blacks from getting jobs. It's blatant, undisputed, racism," he says.

Combine the effects of race and a criminal record, and the problem becomes worse. For instance, only 5% of black men with criminal records received callbacks from employers, the study found.

White men without criminal records fared the best in the Milwaukee-area job market, with 34% receiving callbacks from employers.

Keep in mind that it's illegal to discriminate against applicants with criminal records unless the circumstances of the crime correspond closely to the requirements of the job, says Phoebe Weaver Williams, an associate professor of law at Marquette University who specializes in employment discrimination.

"What's frustrating is that, after so many years of having laws in place, the laws haven't corrected the problem," Weaver Williams says.

Clearly, the study's findings demonstrate that a criminal record closes doors on employment.

Still, employers are averse to taking risks on black applicants, whom they perceive to have criminal tendencies, the study says. For example, black testers were more likely to be asked by employers whether they had any convictions, yet none of the white testers were asked about their criminal histories up front.

Image problems
A couple of factors that work against young black men is their portrayal in the media as gangsters, thugs and rappers on the fringes of society, and the fact that more black men are going to prison than college, according to a report by the U.S. Justice Department.

The sad reality is that the majority of those inmates will be released back into communities where they have little opportunity to obtain legitimate work. Research shows that one of the factors for recidivism is employment.

Black felons face a hostile job market in Milwaukee, says Wendell Hruska, associate director of Project Return, a Milwaukee agency that helps felons and people convicted of misdemeanors find employment.

"Discrimination is very much a problem. That's what we've been hearing from our clients," Hruska says. "A lot of people get discouraged. Unfortunately, many of them give up. You really can't blame people when you've been out there for months putting in applications and you hear nothing back."

This research helps us measure the degree of discrimination that exists in the hiring process.

But the question remains: How do we attack a problem that so affects the economic lives of black men in Milwaukee, where many employers still make hiring decisions colored by fear and misunderstanding?
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Postby se11 » March 20th, 2006, 3:41 pm

I DONT BELIEVE THE STATMENT. DROP THE FUCKING TOPIC.

And no 92% is a little too excessive for discrimination for only white people. it would have to be a massive combined plot between every buisness owner, boss, and owners of every race to target black people in general.
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Postby DC » March 20th, 2006, 4:05 pm

BlackmanofNohonour, you need to stop feeling sorry for yourself and get on with your f*cking life man, you are dillusional.
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