I Cant Respect Mexicans Who Can't Speak Aztec

[MiChuhSuh]

SINCE THERE WERE MANY NATIVE LANGUAGES SPOKEN AND DIFFERENT INDIANS WHY DO MEXICANS CLAIM MEXICO AS AN AZTECK NATION?

AND SAY MEXICANS ARE DESCENDANTS OF AZTECKS?

Rollin64, he was right on this one

SO ROLLIN, ENOUGH OF YOUR IGNORANCE, "AZTEC" WAS THE TOLTEC EMPIRE WHICH CONQUERED, EXPLOITED AND EVEN DEMANDED HUMAN SACRAFICES OF THE OTHER PEOPLES THEY CONQUERED

Cortes and the Conquistadors were able to use this to a significant advantage... the many other tribes were growing increasingly weary of the Aztec Empire's abuse and decided to rebel, or at the very least, lead the Spanish straight to the capital untouched and never helped the Aztecs.



100:
to answer your question, the Aztec empire was the strongest and largest empire just before the Spanish conquered them, so they look to history to find strong people in the region and select the empire to identify themselves as strong.

For example, LA has 2 teams the Clippers and the Lakers, but the Lakers originally came from Minneapolis, so why 4 years ago, were there so many Laker fans, but barely 1 Clipper fan?

Because people like to associate with the strong.

This is comparable with many African Americans who have not traced their roots or were unable to find records of where in Africa they came from, and yet choose empires and identities they find or hear about from Africa and assume that indentity, even when in reality it is just as likely that their ancestors were oppressed at one point by those same people.

[Rollin_inmy_SixFo]

SINCE THERE WERE MANY NATIVE LANGUAGES SPOKEN AND DIFFERENT INDIANS WHY DO MEXICANS CLAIM MEXICO AS AN AZTECK NATION?

AND SAY MEXICANS ARE DESCENDANTS OF AZTECKS?

Rollin64, he was right on this one

SO ROLLIN, ENOUGH OF YOUR IGNORANCE, "AZTEC" WAS THE TOLTEC EMPIRE WHICH CONQUERED, EXPLOITED AND EVEN DEMANDED HUMAN SACRAFICES OF THE OTHER PEOPLES THEY CONQUERED

Cortes and the Conquistadors were able to use this to a significant advantage... the many other tribes were growing increasingly weary of the Aztec Empire's abuse and decided to rebel, or at the very least, lead the Spanish straight to the capital untouched and never helped the Aztecs.



100:
to answer your question, the Aztec empire was the strongest and largest empire just before the Spanish conquered them, so they look to history to find strong people in the region and select the empire to identify themselves as strong.

For example, LA has 2 teams the Clippers and the Lakers, but the Lakers originally came from Minneapolis, so why 4 years ago, were there so many Laker fans, but barely 1 Clipper fan?

Because people like to associate with the strong.

This is comparable with many African Americans who have not traced their roots or were unable to find records of where in Africa they came from, and yet choose empires and identities they find or hear about from Africa and assume that indentity, even when in reality it is just as likely that their ancestors were oppressed at one point by those same people.

Do you have a nationality, race, or ethnic origins? Let's all try to keep it real for streetgangs.com. That's the 3rd time I've asked that question. Are you going to answer or stay in the closet?

[MiChuhSuh]

^Sorry I forgot to respond to that part

But I answered that question about 15 times here

But again, I am 75% North Korean, and 25% South Korean with the slight possibility that my South Korean grandma is part Chinese tracing about 2000-3000 years back since her last name version of "Lee" has "Chinese characteristics" suggested in the form, and is similar to a group of Chinese who came to Korea during the above mentioned time.

My North Korean grandparents strain of North Korean seems to be closer to the original North Koreans which came from Mongolia by bone structure and hormone levels (ya I know that sounds weird but basically I forgot what it was called but it was something my family had.. remnant of the really old "barbarians" in Mongolia, like some sort of hunting instinct thing) and also in Arizona I was confused for a Navajo... who was squinting I suppose lol.

How do I know so much? My family on both sides happened to be really into bookkeeping and records and stuff. I actually have a book of name records which we are supposed to passs down and sign when we have kids and so on.

But that link is broken... my cousins and stuff got stuck in North Korea so they all starved to death... never met most of them and the closest survivors are like 3rd and 4th cousins no one I know has had the opportunity of meeting...

[MiChuhSuh]

lol did you say "stay in the closet?"
lol as if ethnicity was something to be ashamed of

[perongregory]

The only accounts we have of the Aztecs sacrificing people come from Cortez...they're not exactly objective. And so waht if you identify with a group of your race they may have oppresed your particular group at one time. The purpose of identifying with that culture is because a whole other race fucked both of you, and you realize your tribal beef is nicks and dimes compared to the racial beef the real oppressor is bringing.

[MiChuhSuh]

Are you serious???

The Aztecs themselves were the ones to talk to archaeologists about this, when they were helping them explore some ruins...

Now the remaining Aztecs sacrafice chickens instead, or so I last heard.

[MiChuhSuh]

I try not to put on any external identity or persona... I am jsut myself.

The only times I deviate are when I try to be "better" in a moral sense... because everyone knows humans are naturally jacked...

Other than that... whatever

P.S. DANGIT KOREA LOST TO JAPAN IN WBC!! ARGH!!! lol

[DC]

If Mexicans are son ashamed of there Spanish ancestors why dont they drop there Spanish surnames and take on an Aztec name, seriously all this brown pride stuff goes too far, Mexicans should be just as proud of there Spanish roots as they are of there Aztec roots.

[sicilian]

Why not? At this point the majority Mexican blood in most Mexican cities is mostly Spanish over native

I disagree with that. Most Mexicans are mestizo and look more Native. True Spaniards are white as chalk and do not view Mexicans as their own kind. Just the facts....

Most spaniards are olive skinned and do not view mexicans or anglos as their kind. olive

[sicilian]

My grandpa was born in Latin America and his parents were not of Indian or Spanish descent. His parents came from the West Bank in Palestine and spoke fluent Arabic. You are all insane and dumb

[MiChuhSuh]

^ There's an Irish minoritiey in Mexico too, as well as various other non-Hispanic and non-Native and non-mestizo populations (Chinese in some parts)

In southern Mexico there are a bunch of Koreans, in fact two years ago there was a HUGE riots of Koreans because some racist sh*t happened there...

[Old Shatterhand]

I saw many asians in the Panama City ghetto when I went through there.

[sicilian]

^ There's an Irish minoritiey in Mexico too, as well as various other non-Hispanic and non-Native and non-mestizo populations (Chinese in some parts)

In southern Mexico there are a bunch of Koreans, in fact two years ago there was a HUGE riots of Koreans because some racist sh*t happened there...

wow I never knew there were koreans in latin america. But then again, latin america has everything. My grandpa is from latin america and is NOT AZTEC OR SPANISH. He is Palestinian because his parents immigrated to there from Palestine and spoke Arabic sometimes.

[MiChuhSuh]

ya, and South America is really, really diverse

I know some Koreans from Argentina and one from Brazil, there's a lot of Koreans in Argentina and Brazil because of the Korean War.

A lot of Asians down there also because of WWII

It's easier to get a visa to South America than USA during that time

lol this guy helping me learn Spanish is Chinese and from Argentina too

I think there's Italians in Argentina and Brazil too right?

[sicilian]

ya, and South America is really, really diverse

I know some Koreans from Argentina and one from Brazil, there's a lot of Koreans in Argentina and Brazil because of the Korean War.

A lot of Asians down there also because of WWII

It's easier to get a visa to South America than USA during that time

lol this guy helping me learn Spanish is Chinese and from Argentina too

I think there's Italians in Argentina and Brazil too right?

Yes, my teacher is of full Italian descent and hes Argentine. I think that maybe there should be an olive or med category for race for people like me.

[MiChuhSuh]

Honestly though, race is confusing mno matter how you look at it... either there are infinite categories, or one (human)

But I know what you mean. If I believed in full documentation I would say Mediterraneans are unique and Even many Egyptians are similar to the picture you posted earlier, but then many Egyptians also are black (Nubian) or other many things...

But then some Meds are really white but then with culture.... ?

The more you look at it, everyone is really their own culture, their own DNA.

Even identical twins are like this.

I recommend listening to digable planet's first CD, "reachin' (a new refutation of time and space)"
talks about how everyone is their own "planets" because time and space and all points of view are relative.

[sicilian]

Honestly though, race is confusing mno matter how you look at it... either there are infinite categories, or one (human)

But I know what you mean. If I believed in full documentation I would say Mediterraneans are unique and Even many Egyptians are similar to the picture you posted earlier, but then many Egyptians also are black (Nubian) or other many things...

But then some Meds are really white but then with culture.... ?

The more you look at it, everyone is really their own culture, their own DNA.

Even identical twins are like this.

I recommend listening to digable planet's first CD, "reachin' (a new refutation of time and space)"
talks about how everyone is their own "planets" because time and space and all points of view are relative.

My own culture is med, sicilian. Maybe because my ancestors came from the most southern you can be in europe I am that way.

[100]

SINCE THERE WERE MANY NATIVE LANGUAGES SPOKEN AND DIFFERENT INDIANS WHY DO MEXICANS CLAIM MEXICO AS AN AZTECK NATION?

AND SAY MEXICANS ARE DESCENDANTS OF AZTECKS?

Rollin64, he was right on this one

SO ROLLIN, ENOUGH OF YOUR IGNORANCE, "AZTEC" WAS THE TOLTEC EMPIRE WHICH CONQUERED, EXPLOITED AND EVEN DEMANDED HUMAN SACRAFICES OF THE OTHER PEOPLES THEY CONQUERED

Cortes and the Conquistadors were able to use this to a significant advantage... the many other tribes were growing increasingly weary of the Aztec Empire's abuse and decided to rebel, or at the very least, lead the Spanish straight to the capital untouched and never helped the Aztecs.



100:
to answer your question, the Aztec empire was the strongest and largest empire just before the Spanish conquered them, so they look to history to find strong people in the region and select the empire to identify themselves as strong.

For example, LA has 2 teams the Clippers and the Lakers, but the Lakers originally came from Minneapolis, so why 4 years ago, were there so many Laker fans, but barely 1 Clipper fan?

Because people like to associate with the strong.

This is comparable with many African Americans who have not traced their roots or were unable to find records of where in Africa they came from, and yet choose empires and identities they find or hear about from Africa and assume that indentity, even when in reality it is just as likely that their ancestors were oppressed at one point by those same people.

WELL AS FAR as thew african american comment theres no way to trace your roots to a specific tribe now there were so many and alot of the ethnic clans has changed and my ancestors were reminded where they were from, from various white groups(bad or good) as to the last few generations were reminded also... but african slaves for the most part comes from the coast of guniea.

[Sentenza]

The only accounts we have of the Aztecs sacrificing people come from Cortez...they're not exactly objective. And so waht if you identify with a group of your race they may have oppresed your particular group at one time. The purpose of identifying with that culture is because a whole other race #%@& both of you, and you realize your tribal beef is nicks and dimes compared to the racial beef the real oppressor is bringing.

The Aztecs oppressed the other tribes so hard that they joined up forces with Cortez cause they hated the Aztecs with a passion.

[100]

The only accounts we have of the Aztecs sacrificing people come from Cortez...they're not exactly objective. And so waht if you identify with a group of your race they may have oppresed your particular group at one time. The purpose of identifying with that culture is because a whole other race #%@& both of you, and you realize your tribal beef is nicks and dimes compared to the racial beef the real oppressor is bringing.

The Aztecs oppressed the other tribes so hard that they joined up forces with Cortez cause they hated the Aztecs with a passion.

hmm this kind of remind me of a documentary i saw hosted by a mexican woman whom said an indian woman rode along side of cotez to help defeat them why is this not discuss between mexicans or is it?

[MiChuhSuh]

The only accounts we have of the Aztecs sacrificing people come from Cortez...they're not exactly objective. And so waht if you identify with a group of your race they may have oppresed your particular group at one time. The purpose of identifying with that culture is because a whole other race #%@& both of you, and you realize your tribal beef is nicks and dimes compared to the racial beef the real oppressor is bringing.

The Aztecs oppressed the other tribes so hard that they joined up forces with Cortez cause they hated the Aztecs with a passion.

Exactly what I was trying to tell him

[Sentenza]

The only accounts we have of the Aztecs sacrificing people come from Cortez...they're not exactly objective. And so waht if you identify with a group of your race they may have oppresed your particular group at one time. The purpose of identifying with that culture is because a whole other race #%@& both of you, and you realize your tribal beef is nicks and dimes compared to the racial beef the real oppressor is bringing.

The Aztecs oppressed the other tribes so hard that they joined up forces with Cortez cause they hated the Aztecs with a passion.

hmm this kind of remind me of a documentary i saw hosted by a mexican woman whom said an indian woman rode along side of cotez to help defeat them why is this not discuss between mexicans or is it?

You are tlking about Malinche i guess. She was serving him as a translator and concubine and is considered the mother of all Mestizos.

[Individual]

its sad... it doesn't seem right to not speak aztec instead of speaking spanish. i can't respect that...

You really are an idiot.

Their is NO AZTEC LANGUAGE! Aztecs spoke Nahuatl. And guess what Einstein? Nahuatl wasn't the only Native language spoken their prior to spanish conquest.

there was a aztec language

i might have not been spoken by aztecs but it was spoken by south western natives uto-aztecan..which i did research and are like cousins to aztecs

[MiChuhSuh]

The only accounts we have of the Aztecs sacrificing people come from Cortez...they're not exactly objective. And so waht if you identify with a group of your race they may have oppresed your particular group at one time. The purpose of identifying with that culture is because a whole other race #%@& both of you, and you realize your tribal beef is nicks and dimes compared to the racial beef the real oppressor is bringing.

The Aztecs oppressed the other tribes so hard that they joined up forces with Cortez cause they hated the Aztecs with a passion.

hmm this kind of remind me of a documentary i saw hosted by a mexican woman whom said an indian woman rode along side of cotez to help defeat them why is this not discuss between mexicans or is it?

You are tlking about Malinche i guess. She was serving him as a translator and concubine and is considered the mother of all Mestizos.

I mentioned this in a post a while back, either in this or the other thread

Her name is the root word for "malinchista"

Literally it just means you like "other" cultures and stuff but has a connotation of traitor/backstabber

[100]

^^^ SO WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE IN A SITUATION LIKE THAT WHERE YOUR BEING HELD DOWN BY OTHER AMERINDIANS WHO ARE MORE POWERFUL THAN YOU ARE AND SOME EUROPEANS COME ALONG BUT YOU DONT KNOW THEY ARE TRYING TO TAKE OVER YOUR LAND

A.SIDE WITH EUROPEANS FOR THEIR DEFEAT
B.SIDE WITH THE GROUP WHO HAS BEEN RULING YOU AND YOUR TRIBE FOR HOW LONG?


OFFTOPIC
MY THING IS IN AMERICA THERE ARE LANDS PUT ASIDE FOR NATIVE AMERICANS IN MEXICO DO THEY HAVE ANY? AND IF SO OR NOT WHY ARE THEY NOT FIGHTING FOR THEIR LAND AS TO WHAT MEXICANS IN THE UNITED STATES ARE CLAIMING THEY WANT THE SW BACK?

[100]

The only accounts we have of the Aztecs sacrificing people come from Cortez...they're not exactly objective. And so waht if you identify with a group of your race they may have oppresed your particular group at one time. The purpose of identifying with that culture is because a whole other race #%@& both of you, and you realize your tribal beef is nicks and dimes compared to the racial beef the real oppressor is bringing.

The Aztecs oppressed the other tribes so hard that they joined up forces with Cortez cause they hated the Aztecs with a passion.

hmm this kind of remind me of a documentary i saw hosted by a mexican woman whom said an indian woman rode along side of cotez to help defeat them why is this not discuss between mexicans or is it?

You are tlking about Malinche i guess. She was serving him as a translator and concubine and is considered the mother of all Mestizos.

I mentioned this in a post a while back, either in this or the other thread

Her name is the root word for "malinchista"

Literally it just means you like "other" cultures and stuff but has a connotation of traitor/backstabber

The Aztecs oppressed the other tribes so hard that they joined up forces with Cortez cause they hated the Aztecs with a passion.[/quote]

I DONT SEE HOW SHE WAS A TRAITOR IF SHE WANTED TO HELP LIBERATE HER TRIBE FROM THE AZTECS

[MiChuhSuh]

^ I know.. and the Spaniards would have been worse had there not been a translator there at the final surrenders...

and some view her as a "mother" while others view her as a "traitor" (from the "Aztec" point of view)

Honestly there's alot of confusion in Mexican history

[Individual]

After the mexican revolucion

why didnt the aztecs/mexicans go back to there ways>>??

they still kept the catholic crosses and language

[MiChuhSuh]

Because for a lot of them, "there ways" included crippling tribute demanded by the Aztecs who forced not only unreasonable amounts of food (which would starve other tribes) but human sacrifices.

Now to keep things neutral for the next step, we'll make the assumption that most people are not very religious, but rather "identify" in some way such as culture or external symbolism with "a" religion

Now which religion would you rather follow, one in which God sacrifices and Jesus atones for humanity and saves? Or one in which you, your mother, your father, your brother/sister, etc. could be sacrificed at any moment and each festival brought new blood offerings?

I know what many are now thinking - well didn't the Spaniards oppress Mexico "with their religion"?

Yes, unquestionably they did.

But once they are out of the picture, it brings a more objective light to the individual religions. How many people here (including me) hated something jsut because someone you didn't like went with it?

And then thought about it after the person is gone and realized it's not as bad as you made it in your mind?

[Rollin_inmy_SixFo]

^Sorry I forgot to respond to that part

But I answered that question about 15 times here

But again, I am 75% North Korean, and 25% South Korean with the slight possibility that my South Korean grandma is part Chinese tracing about 2000-3000 years back since her last name version of "Lee" has "Chinese characteristics" suggested in the form, and is similar to a group of Chinese who came to Korea during the above mentioned time.

My North Korean grandparents strain of North Korean seems to be closer to the original North Koreans which came from Mongolia by bone structure and hormone levels (ya I know that sounds weird but basically I forgot what it was called but it was something my family had.. remnant of the really old "barbarians" in Mongolia, like some sort of hunting instinct thing) and also in Arizona I was confused for a Navajo... who was squinting I suppose lol.

How do I know so much? My family on both sides happened to be really into bookkeeping and records and stuff. I actually have a book of name records which we are supposed to passs down and sign when we have kids and so on.

But that link is broken... my cousins and stuff got stuck in North Korea so they all starved to death... never met most of them and the closest survivors are like 3rd and 4th cousins no one I know has had the opportunity of meeting...

Actually, North Koreans and South Koreans are from the same lineage. You could say 75% north Korean and 25% south Korean but it doesnt make much difference. You might even be Chinese.

Korea: Prehistory

Archaeological evidence shows that humans first inhabited the peninsula 600,000-700,000 years ago.[1] Tool-making artifacts from the Palaeolithic period (700,000 BC to 40,000 BC) have been found in present-day North Hamgyong, South P'yongan, Gyeonggi, and north and south Chungcheong Provinces. The people were cave dwellers and built homes, using fire for cooking food and warmth. They hunted, gathered and fished with stone tools.

Earliest known Korean pottery dates back to around 8000 BC or before, and evidence of Mesolithic Pit-Comb Ware culture or Yungimun Pottery (융기문토기) is found throughout the Peninsula. An example of a Yungimun-era site is the Gosan-ni in Jeju-do. Jeulmun or Comb-pattern Pottery (즐문토기) is found after 7000 BC, and pottery with comb-patterns over the whole vessel is found concentrated at sites in West-central Korea between 3500-2000 BC, called the Jeulmun pottery period. The Korean peninsula around 3000 BC had numerous settlements. Its pottery was similar to pottery in the Russian Maritime Province, in the Amur and Sungari River basins of Manchuria, and in Mongolia.

[Rollin_inmy_SixFo]

:shock:

Now the remaining Aztecs sacrafice chickens instead, or so I last heard.

Now I've seen video of Koreans/Chinese who boil cats and dogs while they're still alive.

[Rollin_inmy_SixFo]

If Mexicans are son ashamed of there Spanish ancestors why dont they drop there Spanish surnames and take on an Aztec name, seriously all this brown pride stuff goes too far, Mexicans should be just as proud of there Spanish roots as they are of there Aztec roots.

What you probably don't understand is that once you are mixed, you aren't considered white. I'm sure that you have some white in you too but people might laugh at you if you claimed to be white. So it's kind of the same with Mexicans.