Mexico Issues Stamps of Black Character

These concepts are socially constructed and have been given much weight. What are your thoughts?

Postby Tyrant » June 30th, 2005, 7:49 pm

se11 wrote:
i don't see why people even take vacations in mexico i mean people pay money to cross it's border illegeally so why would a person pay money to go there


what?

most simple way i know how to phrase that if you don't get it then uhm

tmaan wrote:LOL….blacks are the most copied race on the planet…..everybody wanna be a nigg@.....but don’t nobody want to be a nigg@.....LOL - Paul Mooney

so we all want to be blakc but at the same time we dont? :?
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Postby TmaaN » June 30th, 2005, 8:16 pm

Yes
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Postby se11 » June 30th, 2005, 10:47 pm

Memin Puingin is a beloved character in Mexico, for through him, we see ourselves, and with him we identify. Sad that most of you, don’t understand the underlying essence and reasoning for such a character, and WRONGLY assume a racist or bad representation of Blacks in Mexico. Mexico’s people are some of the world renowned warm-welcomers to ALL, and Mexico enchanting spirit is in great debt to its Black Heritage, because of the full participation of Black People in its culture and development.


well said lone
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Postby SkoobyDoo » July 1st, 2005, 6:11 am

lonewolf wrote:Memin Puingin is a beloved character in Mexico, for through him, we see ourselves, and with him we identify. Sad that most of you, don’t understand the underlying essence and reasoning for such a character, and WRONGLY assume a racist or bad representation of Blacks in Mexico. Mexico’s people are some of the world renowned warm-welcomers to ALL, and Mexico enchanting spirit is in great debt to its Black Heritage, because of the full participation of Black People in its culture and development.


Get the fuck outta here with that BS. It's a racist character, PERIOD. The same character was racist in newspaper cartoons in the 40's and 50's. I don't give a fuck what he represents now in mexico, here it's still racist. Some dark kid with oversized lips and eyes. Don't try to rationalize this shit.

Racist BS.
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Postby Dr. Gonzo » July 1st, 2005, 6:18 am

SkoobyDoo wrote:Here's a picture of it:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld ... -headlines


fu-- Mexico and their racists views. Black folks, we need to stop spending money down there going on vacation and partying in border towns. Racism is everywhere but these muthafuckas are making it so clear. Don't spend money in mexico or mexican run businesses. fu-- them if that's how they feel.


Haha like mexico needs black tourists. Mexico makes their tourism money from mostly white people.
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Postby blakman » July 1st, 2005, 6:51 am

Dr.gonzo, I hope you realize how much off an ass you really are!!! I wish I could get my hand around your scruny little neck!! :twisted: LoL!!!!!
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Postby Dr. Gonzo » July 1st, 2005, 6:53 am

blakman wrote:Dr.gonzo, I hope you realize how much off an ass you really are!!! I wish I could get my hand around your scruny little neck!! :twisted: LoL!!!!!


I wish, I could get my Ka-bar around your face so, I could remove your face.
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Postby Cold Bear » July 1st, 2005, 7:08 am

SkoobyDoo wrote:
Get the fu-- outta here with that BS. It's a racist character, PERIOD. The same character was racist in newspaper cartoons in the 40's and 50's. I don't give a fu-- what he represents now in mexico, here it's still racist. Some dark kid with oversized lips and eyes. Don't try to rationalize this shit.

Racist BS.


If you look at the 2nd and 3rd cartoons I posted, from the Jim Crow days, you can see the Mexican cartoon and the American 'Sambo' cartoons are almost identical.
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Postby 100 » July 1st, 2005, 1:14 pm

Cold Bear wrote:
SkoobyDoo wrote:
Get the fu-- outta here with that BS. It's a racist character, PERIOD. The same character was racist in newspaper cartoons in the 40's and 50's. I don't give a fu-- what he represents now in mexico, here it's still racist. Some dark kid with oversized lips and eyes. Don't try to rationalize this shit.

Racist BS.


If you look at the 2nd and 3rd cartoons I posted, from the Jim Crow days, you can see the Mexican cartoon and the American 'Sambo' cartoons are almost identical.



exactly and since when did mexico glorify it's blacks as the article says many mexicans see them as immigrants and mexican american don't know they exist in mexico-majority for the matter
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Postby never die inside » July 2nd, 2005, 3:36 am

ay, so wuts this all about?

the white man tryna shot call for mexicans and uniting themselves with the natives to be racist against blacks together? why? cus the mexican president is in some deep shiet cus he's tried to jail the old mexico city mayor and wasn't gonna get re-elected? so this is some diversion n shiet?

so i got two questions:

1) what did blacks in mexico do to whites and pueblos to deserve that hate?

2) is this how the ancient ancestors of mexicans would have handled this? i think the mexicans goin along with this lost their spirit and connection to their ancient history and ways of thinking
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Postby George » July 2nd, 2005, 7:32 am

Everybodies mad at Black people, nobodies mad at those who colonized/enslaved/stole from/and raped over half of the world.
Once you see the bigger picture, it all makes sense we are screwed in the Land of the "free" plus our children, and our childrens children. Until the end of time.
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Postby blackmanofhonor » July 2nd, 2005, 2:42 pm

Im offended by the cartoon.And for the mexicans that say ''we arent offended by speedy gonzalez so this shouldnt offend you'',#1 blacks did not create Speedy Gonzalez #2 if you arent offended by something,in no way whatsoever does that mean that someone else shouldnt be offended.Its like someone punching you in your face,and then punching someone else,and you tell the other person that they shouldnt fight back because you didnt.Just because youre a pussy doesnt mean I have to be one.

besides speedy gonzales does not compare to this comic,it doesnt have the ugly history behind it.Speedy is just a cartoon mouse that speaks with a spanish accent,nothing disrespectful about it.If a cartoon mouse spoke like a black man and wore hip hop type of clothing that would not offend me.This is an entirely diffrent situation.
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Postby Anonymous20 » July 2nd, 2005, 2:56 pm

What do the black MEXICANS have to say about this? Not the black AMERICANS.
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Postby Dr. Gonzo » July 2nd, 2005, 3:16 pm

Vargas Dulché created Memín Pinguín after visiting Cuba. Memín Pinguín was based on the littlle black kids she saw in Cuba. She loved Cuba and it's black people. She was Influenced by the explosive popularity of the Cuban radio soap operas she then began writing similar scripts for Mexican comic books.

Memin is basically a little black cuban kid. She did not create the character to demean black little kids. And, I find it ridicoulous that you black americans find it offensive but yet the blacks in mexico have no problem with the character.

If anyone should be pissed it's the black little cuban kids Memín was based on.
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Postby se11 » July 2nd, 2005, 3:26 pm

blackmanofhonor wrote:Im offended by the cartoon.And for the mexicans that say ''we arent offended by speedy gonzalez so this shouldnt offend you'',#1 blacks did not create Speedy Gonzalez #2 if you arent offended by something,in no way whatsoever does that mean that someone else shouldnt be offended.Its like someone punching you in your face,and then punching someone else,and you tell the other person that they shouldnt fight back because you didnt.Just because youre a pussy doesnt mean I have to be one.

besides speedy gonzales does not compare to this comic,it doesnt have the ugly history behind it.Speedy is just a cartoon mouse that speaks with a spanish accent,nothing disrespectful about it.If a cartoon mouse spoke like a black man and wore hip hop type of clothing that would not offend me.This is an entirely diffrent situation.


ppl like you are offended by the word black being used so you dont count. its people like you why there are racist and ppl like you why we will never overcome racist. something offends you so you have a fucking press confrence. everybody gets shitted on in this world, everyone gets made fun of, and everybody gets offended, get over it.
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Postby blackmanofhonor » July 2nd, 2005, 9:40 pm

se11 wrote:
blackmanofhonor wrote:Im offended by the cartoon.And for the mexicans that say ''we arent offended by speedy gonzalez so this shouldnt offend you'',#1 blacks did not create Speedy Gonzalez #2 if you arent offended by something,in no way whatsoever does that mean that someone else shouldnt be offended.Its like someone punching you in your face,and then punching someone else,and you tell the other person that they shouldnt fight back because you didnt.Just because youre a pussy doesnt mean I have to be one.

besides speedy gonzales does not compare to this comic,it doesnt have the ugly history behind it.Speedy is just a cartoon mouse that speaks with a spanish accent,nothing disrespectful about it.If a cartoon mouse spoke like a black man and wore hip hop type of clothing that would not offend me.This is an entirely diffrent situation.


ppl like you are offended by the word black being used so you dont count. its people like you why there are racist and ppl like you why we will never overcome racist. something offends you so you have a #%@&#%@ press confrence. everybody gets shitted on in this world, everyone gets made fun of, and everybody gets offended, get over it.


shut the fuck up you little bitch.You said once that I was ''making you racist'' and that because of what I have typed on here,you were starting to view black people diffrent.So youre obviously a cowardly little pussy with a WEAK mind and NO BACKBONE.If something offends me youre damn right I will speak upon it because Im a MAN and Im not afraid to ruffle any feathers if I feel its nessecery.


''its people like you why there are racists'' are you saying that people like me make others hateful towards blacks?so in other words,we blacks should just ignore all the HATEFUL,PREJUDICE,RACIST BS we face everyday because us responding might make even more people hate us?lol what a stupid piece of shit you are,you should be shot.
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Postby se11 » July 2nd, 2005, 10:13 pm

shut your fucking mouth. maybe some mexicans dont like blacks because people like you open there mouth whenever the word black is said. it pisses me off when people want to make everything a racial issue when its not. i guarantee you that you will in your lifetime move more ppl from behing normal ppl to racists against blacks, if you talk this way in real life.

your a dumb s o b that wants everything handed to you. if you would get over making everything a racial issue maybe you would get somwhere in you fucking life. all you give a damn about is your fuckingself, you dont give two shits about anybody else. your a fucking cry baby unless everything goes your way and you cant get over challenges in life. yeah theres racism, yeah theres prejudism, yeah some white ppl probably call you n***er behind your back, and yeah black ppl probably face the most out of all the minorities. but guess what? im sure theres black ppl out there calling me a honkey and calling mexicans beaners behind our back, im sure theres black ppl that would hate a fucking pizano from brooklyn moving into their neighborhood, and im sure theres black ppl that just dont like me because im white. but i dont sit here and cry going "awwwww the black guy said he doesnt like me". i get the fuck up and move on and carry myself like a real man and not a little bitch that wants to cry.
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Postby blackmanofhonor » July 2nd, 2005, 10:26 pm

shut the fuck up faggot,

''maybe some mexicans dont like blacks because people like you open there mouth whenever the word black is said''

spoken like a true idiot.
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Postby blackmanofhonor » July 2nd, 2005, 10:30 pm

so we blacks should accept racism and not even comment on it?is that what you think se11?
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Postby se11 » July 2nd, 2005, 10:56 pm

comment is different than bitch and whine about everything.
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Postby blackmanofhonor » July 2nd, 2005, 11:19 pm

I notice you faggots call anything dealing with race bitching and whining.
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Postby se11 » July 2nd, 2005, 11:46 pm

thats what you say everytime someone says you are whining because the truth is you have to complain about everything negative that happens and you dont want to see that. if you "commented" on some issues that would be one thing. but everytime a topic about racism comes up, you start whining about how everybody hates blacks or how everything is so racist. we know there are racist people, stop crying like a little girl and do something like a man for once in your life and get over it. like my grandparents say, life isnt fair get use to it. theres is nothing you can say or do to change these peoples minds. crying about it just proves you cant go on. this isnt just about the stamp its about people bringing up the race card everytime something they dont like happens.
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Postby never die inside » July 3rd, 2005, 2:47 am

when you live somewhere like wisconsin where Chai Vang got called Chink and shot at by a bunch of white hick hunters, everything is gonna seem racist to you, cus guess what, its one fuccin racist place to live in wisconsin if you are black, asian, native american, middle eastern.

anyways... this is the mexican president vicente fox tryna stir shiet up between dark mexicans and blacks to divert attention from that obrador dood winning the next presidential election... its so fuccin obvious... i feel sorry for the mexicans that fall for this.
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Postby blackmanofhonor » July 3rd, 2005, 9:41 am

se11 wrote:thats what you say everytime someone says you are whining because the truth is you have to complain about everything negative that happens and you dont want to see that. if you "commented" on some issues that would be one thing. but everytime a topic about racism comes up, you start whining about how everybody hates blacks or how everything is so racist. we know there are racist people, stop crying like a little girl and do something like a man for once in your life and get over it. like my grandparents say, life isnt fair get use to it. theres is nothing you can say or do to change these peoples minds. crying about it just proves you cant go on. this isnt just about the stamp its about people bringing up the race card everytime something they dont like happens.


the only thing I can do on here is comment you stupid bitch,this is the internet.what do you mean by ''get over it'',do you mean just ignore it and never mention it or discuss?No,Im not going to do that.Im sure your ancestors in the 50s were ''tired'' of hearing my ancestors ''whine'' as you honkies put it about civil rights.
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Postby blackmanofhonor » July 3rd, 2005, 9:43 am

Ancient Tribes of America wrote:when you live somewhere like wisconsin where Chai Vang got called Chink and shot at by a bunch of white hick hunters, everything is gonna seem racist to you, cus guess what, its one fuccin racist place to live in wisconsin if you are black, asian, native american, middle eastern.




the entire US is racist wisconsin is not special in that aspect.My city is damn near 50% non white so its not like I live in some hick town.
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Postby se11 » July 3rd, 2005, 1:12 pm

blackmanofhonor wrote:
se11 wrote:thats what you say everytime someone says you are whining because the truth is you have to complain about everything negative that happens and you dont want to see that. if you "commented" on some issues that would be one thing. but everytime a topic about racism comes up, you start whining about how everybody hates blacks or how everything is so racist. we know there are racist people, stop crying like a little girl and do something like a man for once in your life and get over it. like my grandparents say, life isnt fair get use to it. theres is nothing you can say or do to change these peoples minds. crying about it just proves you cant go on. this isnt just about the stamp its about people bringing up the race card everytime something they dont like happens.


the only thing I can do on here is comment you stupid bitch,this is the internet.what do you mean by ''get over it'',do you mean just ignore it and never mention it or discuss?No,Im not going to do that.Im sure your ancestors in the 50s were ''tired'' of hearing my ancestors ''whine'' as you honkies put it about civil rights.

thers nothing wrong with feeling somethings racist or unfair. but some ppl bring up the race card in many cases when it doesn't need to be and things get blow way out of proportion.
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Postby Michelle » July 3rd, 2005, 2:42 pm

se11 wrote:thers nothing wrong with feeling somethings racist or unfair. but some ppl bring up the race card in many cases when it doesn't need to be and things get blow way out of proportion.


In a minority of cases it does get blown out of proportion, however there is a LOT of racism out there, and you cannot pretend it does not exist and sweep it under the carpet.
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Postby 100 » July 6th, 2005, 9:35 am

THE REASON WHY BLACK-MEXICANS AHVE NO PROBLEM WITH THIS IS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THAT MANY NUMBERS WHOS GONNA LISTEN TO THEM?

AND WHY WOULD MEXICO PRODUCE SOMETHING THAT WAS IS BASED ON BLACKS IN CUBA?

AND SINCE WHEN DID MEXICO GLORIFY ITS BLACKS?

AND WHY DO THE MEMIN CHARACTER LOOK LIKE AN ANIMAL BUT THE MEZTIZO OR WHITE TRASH SH!TS LOOK LIKE HUMAN BEINGS?

COMPARING SPEEDY GONAZALES TO MEMIN IS NOT EVEN DEBATABLE SPEEDY IS A CHARACTER THAT ALWAYS WINS AGAINST HIS RIVALS TRY COMPARING THAT TO MEMIN.

AFRICAN AMERICANS DID NOT CREATE SPEEDY LIKE BMOH SAID!
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Postby Anonymous20 » July 8th, 2005, 10:16 pm

can someone post the stamp images within their message? thanks
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Postby SkoobyDoo » July 9th, 2005, 6:31 am

alonso wrote:can someone post the stamp images within their message? thanks


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Postby Anonymous20 » July 10th, 2005, 4:42 pm

I dont want to click on another site to see the images, can someone insert the image in their message like below? Very easy, click "img" once, then insert the path to the image, then click "img" once again.

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Postby Dr. Gonzo » July 10th, 2005, 5:17 pm

[img]http://www.lambiek.net/artists/burgos_sv/burgos_memin1.jpg[/img]
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