What The Mexicans Trying To Prove

These concepts are socially constructed and have been given much weight. What are your thoughts?

Postby blackmanofhonor » October 10th, 2005, 6:58 am

leftcoast wrote:
this is thier land(mexicans are native to north america) anyway.


no its not, its the native american's land, the aztecs lived further down south in wut is now messico


Some of the land that is now US territory did belong to Mexico.Mexicans ancestors were on this continent long before evil,greedy whitey decided to come here.
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Postby Lordbyron » October 10th, 2005, 10:42 am

[quote="MICK"]^^^ Thats wrong. I garuntee blacks have done more damage in the inner city to Mexicans than whites.[quote]

Come on man! You really don't believe that do you? Black folks have 'caused a lot of mayhem in the inner city but 99.9% of it has been directed at other Black folks! When car loads of Black G's were rolling around looking for fools to whoride on, 9 times out of 10, they went looking for other Black G's! And If you don't think Mexicans were getting pulled from their cars and given the Rodney King treatment by the LAPD then you're crazy... I can't even count how many news reports I've heard about migrant workers getting their heads kicked in by Neo Nazi punks... Sh** those ese's up in San Q put the hammer down on some White boys a few months ago, so you see my point?

... But on some real sh**, this thread has opened my eyes man, even though I disagree with some of the sh** folks have said at least fools are talking...
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Postby 'X' » October 10th, 2005, 10:57 am

perongregory wrote:
blackmanofhonor wrote:^^^^Much respect Perongregory.certain people love to see us divided and killing each other,while they lock us up and live the good life.Black and brown unity is a good thing.


I feel ya man. You can fool some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time. Slowly shit will get better, we just gotta keep workin.



Big ups to ya'll two bruthas for adding some positivity to this topic. It's very easy to be whoever you choose on these sites and ya'll could easily be like some of these ignorant sounding bruthas(Black and Brown)on here, but ya'll speaking on solutions and I'm defiantly with that....

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Postby TheReal » October 10th, 2005, 12:21 pm

To Doobie

Fuck you racist son of a bitch, for mentioning my name in your polemics with another man! As I said before, so say I now again, THE BS, REVISIONIST HISTORY THAT MANY OF YOUR PEOPLE ARE USING TODAY, THAT JUSTIFIES THE OUTRIGHT GENOCIDAL, ETHNIC CLEANSING TYPES OF KILLINGS UPON BLACK FOLKS, ARE A BUNCH OF LIES, IN THE MAIN!!

Back in the day, black folks didn't go on a campaign to harass, steal, rob and ultimately MURDER, the mexican/chicano population, the way many of your people report! Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that black gangs didn't fuck with some mexicans, but by and large, the mass harassment and killings that you and your devil racist brethren, as well as your white cohorts, are trying to propagate out there, when it comes to black folks supposed pogrom on mexicans-again-IS BS!!

I remember those days fool, and so do you, racist pussy, and you know damn well your ass wasn't the constant targets of black gangs, or black folks in general. Fuck what you heard from some relatives, or other folks, fool. I, with mine own eyes have seen black gangs harass, terrorize, and outright murder in cold blood, their fellow blacks, more so than what any mexican can ever dream of, at the hands of black folks, while these same black criminals/gangmembers, would ignore the much smaller mexican barrios in their hood, by letting those folks live.

This doesn't justify the harassment that certain mexicans went through, at the hands of black gangs, but on the same token, much of the harassment that blacks were inflicting against mexicans, in the form of robbery, etc.-WASN'T AT THE HANDS OF BLACK GANG MEMBERS, NOR WAS THERE EVER AN ORCHESTRATED PLAN BY BLACK GANG MEMBERS, TO OUTRIGHT MURDER INNOCENT MEXICAN CIVILIANS, JUST BECAUSE THEY WERE MEXICAN, THE WAY YOUR DEVILISH AND RACIST SURENO BRETHREN OPERATE!!

So don't come to me with all your revisionist BS, thinking that your slick, forktongued, evil ass is going to pass some shit by me, in regards to black people, and their being victims of racist ese gangs, and their collective desires to kill innocent black civilians! That shit ain't got nothing to do with revenge devil muthafucka, but rather all the information I posted up on this thread, as well as other threads. The information in those threads are the pure, underlying, in-depth, unadulterated truth, which lying bitches like you know is the truth, but yet try to pull up straw man arguments, in attempts to justify your own people's BS!!!

And I was right about what I said before, if racist devil, sons of bitch mexicans like you are so hell bent on revenge, well-WHITE FOLKS HAVE DONE MORE TO MEXICANS/CHICANOS, THROUGHOUT THE HISTORY OF THIS NATION, THAN WHAT SOME URBAN RIDDEN CRIME SPREES, SOME BLACK CRIMINALS INFLICTED UPON MEXICANS, ON ANY GIVEN DAY!!!

Not only that, black gangs, and criminals from back in the day inflicted more upon their fellow black folks, compared to the pittance of harassment, that your folks had to endure, at the hands of black folks!

So in closing, I say fuck you, and everything you stand for, you racist devil piece of shit, and anyone else on this thread who I've not been able to address, because of me overlooking their shit!
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Postby TheReal » October 10th, 2005, 12:22 pm

Am I missing someone in this forum?
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Postby TheReal » October 10th, 2005, 12:38 pm

Bump that

I was thinking how that for the next couple of months, before January, my schedule is relatively free (in January, I go back to school), to where I'd be glad to debate any mexican and white supporter of mexicans against black folks, in a live televised debate!

We can debate on this very issue, concerning black folks supposed pogrom of the mexican/chicano population from back in the day, and how it supposedly justifies the murderous racism you see expressed nowadays, by these racist sureno devil ese's, as well as the broader mexican/chicano community.

I know Alonso can set this thing up!

Hell, I'll even debate you devils in a room full of mexicans/chicanos, as well as white folks, with me being the only black person present. And not only that, to raise the stakes, you guys (mexican and white folks) can invite as many folks on your side to debate me, whereas I'll be the sole negro on the other side! So how does that sound?

I'm not that great of a debater anyway, just someone who makes a lot of noise and shit, so you guys may be able to handle me real easy. Not only that, I tend to recoil from my positions, once someone gets all up in my face, or comes at me real strong...

So again, what do you guys say?
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Postby RuthlessCray » October 10th, 2005, 12:43 pm

blackmanofhonor wrote:I hate when I hear ignorant blacks talk down on mexicans or vice versa..



I feel the same way man..I would really like to see things get better between Blacks and us.
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Postby perongregory » October 10th, 2005, 2:12 pm

Like tray dee said: they give mexicans the blocks and blacks the rocks, kill two birds of with one stone
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Postby se11 » October 10th, 2005, 2:54 pm

TheReal wrote:Bump that

I was thinking how that for the next couple of months, before January, my schedule is relatively free (in January, I go back to school), to where I'd be glad to debate any mexican and white supporter of mexicans against black folks, in a live televised debate!

We can debate on this very issue, concerning black folks supposed pogrom of the mexican/chicano population from back in the day, and how it supposedly justifies the murderous racism you see expressed nowadays, by these racist sureno devil ese's, as well as the broader mexican/chicano community.

I know Alonso can set this thing up!

Hell, I'll even debate you devils in a room full of mexicans/chicanos, as well as white folks, with me being the only black person present. And not only that, to raise the stakes, you guys (mexican and white folks) can invite as many folks on your side to debate me, whereas I'll be the sole negro on the other side! So how does that sound?

I'm not that great of a debater anyway, just someone who makes a lot of noise and shit, so you guys may be able to handle me real easy. Not only that, I tend to recoil from my positions, once someone gets all up in my face, or comes at me real strong...

So again, what do you guys say?


what is there to debate? what it comes down to is your either a racist or not a racist.
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Postby never die inside » October 10th, 2005, 3:09 pm

TheReal wrote:I'd be glad to debate any mexican and white supporter of mexicans against black folks, in a live televised debate!


damm! thats one of the best things i've read on this site... LOL! LIVE TELEVISION! DAMMM!! hahaha i'd def be there...
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Postby Sentenza » October 10th, 2005, 3:20 pm

TheReal wrote:I was thinking how that for the next couple of months, before January, my schedule is relatively free (in January, I go back to school), to where I'd be glad to debate any mexican and white supporter of mexicans against black folks, in a live televised debate!


Any white supporting mexicans in killing blacks is a SON OF A BITCH.

Anyone advocating senseless killings is a SON OF A COCKROACH-BITCH.

Understand me? But no one can stop blacks/Mexicans from killing each others than themselves.
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Postby DOOBIE'S BACK » October 10th, 2005, 6:13 pm

REAL, YOU PHONY BOLOGNA CHUMP, GET OFF IT. HARD TO LOOK AT YOURSELF IN THE MIRROR AND REALLY BELEIVE THAT YOUR KIN DESERVE WHATS COMING TO THEM, HUH? BE A MAN AND REALIZE THAT YOUR KIND SHITTED ON EVERYONE; PRISON SYSTEM, POLITICS, NEIGHBORHOODS, GOVERMENT, ETC. NOW YOU WANNA CRY AND SCREAM BLOODY MURDER ABOUT MEXICANS BEING RACIST. BYTCH PLEASE, ONLY GANGSTERS WITH TIES TO THE SUR ARE ON A BLACK GANG/SOMETIME CIVILIAN "K" TYPE SHIT. THERE ARE MILLIONS OF HARD WORKING MEXICANS THAT DONT HAVE ANY ILL-WILL TOWARDS BLACK FOLK. NOW GET UP OFF YOUR KNEES, KNOCK THAT DIRT OFF AND REALIZE THAT YOUR KIND IS GETTING PAYBACK TENFOLD. QUIT WHINNING. STATISTICS, NEIGHBORHOODS, PEOPLES STORIES, YOUR KINDS "BRAGGING" ABOUT YOUR THUG LIFE HAS CAUGHT UP WITH YOU. NOW GROW A SPINE AND REALIZE THAT THE MAJORITY OF THESE PEOPLE ON HERE ARE OUT-OF-TOWNERS THAT REALLY AINT BUYING YOUR WHINNING. BOY, YOU ACT LIKE BLACK PEOPLE ARE UP-STANDING CITIZENS THAT HAVE BEEN DOING IT RIGHT FOR 1,000 YRS. WHAT COMES AROUND, GOES AROUND, AND IT'S GOING AROUND IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY. AINT NO DEBATE NIGGER, PURE TRUTH. WOULD YOU LIKE SOME CHEESE WITH ALL THAT "WHINE" YOU ARE BRINGING. LOL, YOU ARE THE DEFINITION OF A NIGGER. :lol:
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Postby perongregory » October 10th, 2005, 6:25 pm

Doobie, how could anyone take you serious or believe you have an objective point of view when you call someone a nigger? That shows you're bias, racist, and want beef to crack. 1000's of mexicnas are hardworking, and 1000's are gangbangers. samething with blacks and every other race. I don't even know why you hate black people so much. and killing non-affiliates isn't payback, it's pussy ass shit.
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Postby blackmanofhonor » October 10th, 2005, 6:43 pm

Doobie is a stupid bitch.The fuck you mean blacks shitted on the government and politics?If anything the United States government shits on both blacks and latinos...and always has.....but I see you got the white mans dick shoved up your mouth so deep that you cant see clear.
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Taking up for Uncle Sam huh Doobie?You brainwashed bitch

Postby blackmanofhonor » October 10th, 2005, 6:46 pm

And most whites dont give a fuck about mexicans they just see you all as eitherA. illegal aliens who should get booted back to mexico or either B pawns that they can use for cheap labor.
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Postby blackmanofhonor » October 10th, 2005, 6:49 pm

DOOBIE'S BACK wrote:REAL, YOU PHONY BOLOGNA CHUMP, GET OFF IT. HARD TO LOOK AT YOURSELF IN THE MIRROR AND REALLY BELEIVE THAT YOUR KIN DESERVE WHATS COMING TO THEM, HUH? BE A MAN AND REALIZE THAT YOUR KIND SHITTED ON EVERYONE; PRISON SYSTEM, POLITICS, NEIGHBORHOODS, GOVERMENT, ETC. NOW YOU WANNA CRY AND SCREAM BLOODY MURDER ABOUT MEXICANS BEING RACIST. BYTCH PLEASE, ONLY GANGSTERS WITH TIES TO THE SUR ARE ON A BLACK GANG/SOMETIME CIVILIAN "K" TYPE SHIT. THERE ARE MILLIONS OF HARD WORKING MEXICANS THAT DONT HAVE ANY ILL-WILL TOWARDS BLACK FOLK. NOW GET UP OFF YOUR KNEES, KNOCK THAT DIRT OFF AND REALIZE THAT YOUR KIND IS GETTING PAYBACK TENFOLD. QUIT WHINNING. STATISTICS, NEIGHBORHOODS, PEOPLES STORIES, YOUR KINDS "BRAGGING" ABOUT YOUR THUG LIFE HAS CAUGHT UP WITH YOU. NOW GROW A SPINE AND REALIZE THAT THE MAJORITY OF THESE PEOPLE ON HERE ARE OUT-OF-TOWNERS THAT REALLY AINT BUYING YOUR WHINNING. BOY, YOU ACT LIKE BLACK PEOPLE ARE UP-STANDING CITIZENS THAT HAVE BEEN DOING IT RIGHT FOR 1,000 YRS. WHAT COMES AROUND, GOES AROUND, AND IT'S GOING AROUND IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY. AINT NO DEBATE NIGGER, PURE TRUTH. WOULD YOU LIKE SOME CHEESE WITH ALL THAT "WHINE" YOU ARE BRINGING. LOL, YOU ARE THE DEFINITION OF A NIGGER. :lol:


and mexican bangers dont talk about thuggin and hustlin?bitch I know hella mexicans that are Latin Kings,Satan Disciples and Surenos and they thuggin just as hard as any black thug
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Postby TheReal » October 11th, 2005, 7:11 am

To the wetback Doobie

-REAL,

*Yeah what's up beaner?

-YOU PHONY BOLOGNA CHUMP,

*Bitch, there's nothing phony about me, nor my rage, nor what the fuck I have to say, or what I propose. Devil racist, chicano devils like you would want me to be a "phony" and a "fake," so that it would soothe the minds of racist, lowbrow, belowstair, asshead serpents like you, who feel you have a complete handle on things, especially black folks, but to your dislike, and disgust devil, I am about as real a muthafucka, your mexican cockroach, tio-taco eating wetback ass has ever seen!

-GET OFF IT.

*Off what?

-HARD TO LOOK AT YOURSELF IN THE MIRROR AND REALLY BELEIVE THAT YOUR KIN DESERVE WHATS COMING TO THEM, HUH?

*First of all, it's real easy for me to look at myself in the mirror, and like what I see, unlike a horned donkey, mexican cockroach like yourself. Secondly, my "KIN" doesn't deserve to be shot down in the streets, just because they're black, by your racist sureno, devil brethren, something which black gangs back in the day never did, when it comes to an orchestrated campaign of murder, and regardless of how much you and your evil KIND protest to the contrary (with your revisionist BS lies, which are something you, and your evil kind really don't believe anyway, but rather you will use this old, tired, retreaded, "revenge" angle, in order to justify the latent racism that you white supremacist brown devils have always had)-the facts, the stats, and the true history of black gangs back in the day, and them not targeting innocent mexicans/chicanos for murder, just because they're mexican/chicano, will stack up to the truth, and historical record: AND YOU KNOW THIS BITCH!!

Simply put, your racist ass is glad black folks are getting shot down in the streets, just because they're black, because in the end, you're a slithering, backstabbing, dust crawling devil, and has always been...

But you know what, I'm jumping ahead of myself, let me proceed further!

-BE A MAN AND REALIZE THAT YOUR KIND SHITTED ON EVERYONE; PRISON SYSTEM, POLITICS, NEIGHBORHOODS, GOVERMENT, ETC

-- BOY, YOU ACT LIKE BLACK PEOPLE ARE UP-STANDING CITIZENS THAT HAVE BEEN DOING IT RIGHT FOR 1,000 YRS. WHAT COMES AROUND, GOES AROUND, AND IT'S GOING AROUND IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY.

*Fuck that being a man BS devil, I am already a man, a strong man who's not afraid to tell devils like you, the real truth, and cut through all the BS, that you and your evil kind is trying to perpetuate to the masses. And as far as black folks shitting on everyone-MUTHAFUCKA ARE YOU FOR REAL???

First of all, I'll be the first to admit that black folks aren't perfect, as well as the fact that I've had my run ins with black folks in a negative way, including negros on this site, but having said that, again devil-YOU ARE REVISING HISTORY IN REGARDS TO WHAT BLACK FOLKS HAVE SUPPOSEDLY DONE TO MEXICANS AND EVERYBODY!!!

How in the fuck have black folks shit on white folks (and I already know the arguments devils like you will put forth, so you, and any white muthafucka out there, BRING IT ON; I have some time to spar with you)??? The amount of crime that black folks reap against white folks, doesn't compare to the crime that white folks have collectively have put forth onto black folks globally, starting with the transatlantic slave trade, and all up until presently. And any crime that black folks have committed against white folks, within the last 40-35 years, have been exponentially much higher within the black community, when it comes to black on black crime.

In other words, the crimes against white people, committed by black folks, are mere spillovers of the havoc and mayhem that black folks commit against each other, and will never take the place of the injustices that white folks have leveled against black folks historically, in this country, as well as the rest of the western hemisphere.

And as far as Asians, you can't compare black folks harassing asians in their convenient stores, within the last 30 years, with the harassment, and systematic racist practices that white folks have inflicted upon asians, from the time they arrived in this country, with various ordinances, and laws, and sundry discriminatory practices.

And as far as mexicans/chicanos-BLACK FOLKS COLLECTIVELY HAVEN'T DONE A DAMN THING TO YOU MUTHAFUCKAS!!!! History is rampant with the practice of white people inflicting mass oppression, and genocidal pogroms, on whole indigenous populations throughout mexico, and other parts of central america! Hell! The white man has even punked your own people, and took parts of this country, that once belonged to mexico. Hell! Not only that, white folks would lynch many of your evil kind throughout the southwest, and practice discriminatory laws barring them from certain public accomodations throughout the southwest. Moreover, during the 30's, the President of this country invoked an act called the "Wetback Act," that sent many of your own tio taco, evil kind, back down to the cesspool we know as Mexico, that included even those that were U.S. citizens. And let's not talk about the Zoot Suit riots, when white military folks were beating the shit out of your evil kind, to where many of you devils were hiding in black homes, for safe refuge!

But oooooooooooooooooooooooooh, the only crime that black folks have committed against mexicans/chicanos, within the last 5 to 600 years, is that of some black criminals robbing mexicans, and beating them up-AND THIS DIDN'T HAPPEN TO EVERY MEXICAN, NOR DID EVERY MEXICAN, INCLUDING YOURSELF DEVIL, EXPERIENCE THIS!!!

Naw serpent son of a devil whore, what it is, is that…

Again, I'm jumping ahead of myself, for what I was about to say, I'll save it for later, but to get back on this angle:

Devils like you have your damn nerves to talk about what black folks have done to other folks, whereas when you add up the tab, in regards to mexican/chicanos hatred towards black folks, IT DOESN'T NOT COMPUTE!!

Rather, the hatred that you see coming from mexicans/chicanos, is based on the latent hatred and jealousy that mexicans/chicanos have always had for black folks, and now that you devils have the numbers, you feel free in invoking what you racist sons of bitches always wanted invoke upon the black community-OPPRESSION AND GENOCIDE!

I'll go further into this, as I deal with more of your BS!

-. NOW YOU WANNA CRY AND SCREAM BLOODY MURDER ABOUT MEXICANS BEING RACIST.

*No devil, to the contrary, son of Tijuana ho, I’m not screaming “bloody murder,” when it comes to “MEXICANS BEING RACIST,” seeing as how I always knew that mexicans have been racist. You talk about the prison system, and the politics thereof, as if black gangs in prison were oppressing mexicans, when it was Mexicans who first formed their prison gang structure, to protect themselves, not from blacks, BUT FROM THE WHITE INMATES!! Not only that, black prison gang structure formed in the late 60’s, in order for them to have protection, mainly from white inmates, your folks, as well as the prison authorities. The shit was more political!!

And to top it off, the fact that there are mexicans who ally themselves with white supremacists, and have working relationships with white supremacist, whether it be in the prisons, or on the streets, in various parts of this country, only lets me know that devils like you, and the rest of your evil kind’s petty little feuds with white folks, are mere interfamily squabbles, because in the end, you mestizo devils, and your white racist brethren, are one and the same!

That’s why you can say that black folks have shitted on the government, with a straight face, because of your latent, unspoken solidarity and identity with your white racist brethren.

You see, racist devil pussies like you feel that you’re naturally superior to black folks any way, and that anything that they fought for, in regards to their civil rights, should’ve really have gone to mexicans/chicanos. You also believe that if any one group were to receive any type of largesse from white folks, it should’ve been your people, seeing as how your kind is closer to white folks, and how you view black folks being the lowest on the racial totem pole.

In other words, what racist scab dungs like you call “shitting” on the government, on the part of black folks, is the fact that black folks received anything from this government, even if they fought for it, with their blood, sweat and tears. You devils don’t believe black folks should have shit, not even the pot they piss in, even if they fought for it, by shedding their blood, sweat and tears, because you devils are racist sons of bitches, who feel that black folk are beneath you. It insults you, that the folks you view as being beneath you, have achieved anything, despite it being not that much, to where devils like you are now on a campaign to “rage against the machine,” whereas the machine you’re raging against are black folks!!!

You now have the numbers, the power on the streets, and on other levels, in certain parts of the country, and instead of taking it to white folks, who have oppressed your folks longer, stronger, and institutionally-which will never compare to the petty crimes black folks inflicted upon mexicans, during a specific period of time-you’re now going to attack and target black folks, simply because they’ve been able to extract things from this system, and have been more successful at doing so, more so than your own people, devil-AND YOU KNOW THIS AS WELL!!!

That’s why all your bitching and moaning about black folks supposed collective shitting on mexicans/chicanos, therefore justifying revenge against black folks, is just so drenched with pure BS, seeing as how the other man, has done more to your people throughout history, and even presently on much higher levels, than black folks can ever dream about wanting to do to mexicans!!

Naw devil, I will continue to wail against you racist devils, and call it like it is, concerning how you, and your no good, dirty sureno kind operates.

With that said, I can say more, BUT LET’S MOVE ON!

-BYTCH PLEASE,

*Just like a Mexican sureno devil, always trying to steal cultural and verbal expressions from black folks. Folks always talk about white folks pretending to be black, and being “wiggers” and all, when in reality, mexicans/chicanos have co-opted, arrogated, and outright stole more cultural nuances from black folks more thoroughly, than white folks.

Case in point, this fool is going to say to me “BYTCH PLEASE,” when this devil knows that this is the same thing I said to his mother, after she got on her knees begging to suck on my dick, whereby I rejected her filthy offer.

I guess the bytch just wanted some throat yogurt from a real man! LOL!

-ONLY GANGSTERS WITH TIES TO THE SUR ARE ON A BLACK GANG/SOMETIME CIVILIAN "K" TYPE SHIT. THERE ARE MILLIONS OF HARD WORKING MEXICANS THAT DONT HAVE ANY ILL-WILL TOWARDS BLACK FOLK.

*I don’t give a damn about the “MILLIONS OF HARD WORKING MEXICANS THAT DON’T” supposedly “HAVE ANY ILL-WILL TOWARDS BLACK FOLK,” seeing as how these same people (you know, these hard working muthafuckas) will feel that innocent black men, women and children, being targeted for murder, by your kind, although being brutal and disgusting-is nevertheless a necessary evil that must take place, in order for chicano/Mexican domination to reign!!

-NOW GET UP OFF YOUR KNEES, KNOCK THAT DIRT OFF AND REALIZE THAT YOUR KIND IS GETTING PAYBACK TENFOLD. QUIT WHINNING. STATISTICS, NEIGHBORHOODS, PEOPLES STORIES,

*Bitch, I don’t live on my knees, unlike your tijuano, desert rat ho of a mother, secondly I don’t realize a damn thing, in regards to my kind getting any type of “PAYBACK TENFOLD” seeing as how I’ve said in the above, as well as in other posts, the supposed “PAYBACK” that black folks are receiving from your evil kind, has nothing to do with what black folks supposedly did to mexicans back in the day, nor does it compare to the historical genocide that Europeans have inflicted upon your people, because if shooting innocent black civilians, whether they be old or young, male or female, or even little babies, is what you call payback towards black folks for robbing and beating up mexicans, then I can’t wait to see what you will eventually do to white folks, who raped, pillaged, enslaved, murdered, and uprooted your own people from their land, and civilizations!

But you and I know that for me to wait for that day, is like waiting for a hog to breakdance, because you and I know, devil-that this day will never happen. Why? Because as I’ve said before in this thread, as well as on other posts, you and white folks gripes and arguments, are mere interfamily squabbles, and that the real enemy of mexicans/chicanos, from how your evil kind sees it, are black folks primarily, and that for black folks to always talk about allying with you devils, and building bridges with you devils, is similar to God making a pact with Satan!

Nothing good will ever come of it!

-YOUR KINDS "BRAGGING" ABOUT YOUR THUG LIFE HAS CAUGHT UP WITH YOU.

*BITCH, BE FOR REAL!!! This thug life that you mexicans/chicanos are always trying to lambaste black folks with, in regards to black folks constantly bragging about it, is the same thug moniker that you Mexican/chicano devils want to be attached with as well!! Many of you devils view the thug, the bandit, the pistolero, and the outlaw, with being masculine, rebellious and something to aspire to!! You evil pieces of shit are only upset because black folks compete with you devils, in regards to that particular image, that’s why you imps always claim spuriously, that black folks got their swagger, and thuggish, ruggish ways from mexicans/chicanos, which on the face of it-IS BS!!

That’s why many of you devils want to claim that it was you beaners who invented gangsta rap, and the west coast gangsta flavor, because you devils are the ones who want to receive first dibs, as being the ultimate badasses!! But you see, you slithering serpent muthafuckas realize that from a historical and cultural standpoint, you muthafuckas really don’t have a ground to stand on, so what motivates apart of your evil kind’s murderous rage against black folks, is the fact that your kind is reminded of how you devils fall short in your own ruthlessness, compared to black folks, to where you want to now annihilate your competition, seeing as how you now have the numbers.

This is evident in how you muthafuckas walk, talk, utilize certain gestures and mannerisms, and how you swagger, which are elements you bitches STOLE from black folks!! The way Mexican/chicano gangs profile and have their whole demeanor nowadays, is based on black gang/street culture, and you know this pussy son of a devil whore! Hell! The fact that you muthafuckas rap, listen to, and perform, various styles of black music, just shows me how you devils are mere, soul patrolling, cultural bandits!

Hell! Even your ancestors the pachucos, got their hand significations, walk, style of dress, dances, and music, from black folks fool!!!!!! BLACK FOLKS ARE THE ONES WHO KICKED OFF MEXICAN SWAGGER AND COOLNESS, WITHIN THE PACHUCOS DEVIL!! Mexicans back in the day, with all their highwaisted slacks with suspenders, baggy pleated pants, fedoras, certain styles of shoes, etc.-COPIED THAT SHIT FROM BLACK FOLKS!!!

Now don’t get me wrong, getting back to this thug shit, I will admit that black folks collectively have gone off the deep ends with that shit, but on the same token, you Mexican chicano devils always envied those qualities in certain black folks, as well as black folks swagger and cool, to where many of your people have produced a collective player hater mentality, over the very same thing you condemn black folks for possessing, and reveling in.

Again, devils like you, and your evil kind, get off on the badass muthafucka, and extol that shit within your own culture, to where you will produce books, treatises, and various defenses, defending the Mexican/chicano thug and criminal culture, to the utmost, by romanticizing it, and giving it a noble quality.

So in the end, when you devils criticize black folks, for their glamorization of “thug culture,” it’s not done so based on pure righteous disgust on your people’s part. Rather, your people’s disgust lay in the fact that you devils have to compete with black folks, when it comes to being viewed as the ultimate badasses, and all that this image entails…

I can go further with this, but you, and every other Mexican/chicano reading this, knows that I’m telling the truth, regardless of whether or not black folks realize this about your people!

-NOW GROW A SPINE AND REALIZE THAT THE MAJORITY OF THESE PEOPLE ON HERE ARE OUT-OF-TOWNERS THAT REALLY AINT BUYING YOUR WHINNING.

*Look devil, the fact that I’m challenging you and your kind to a live televised, free for all debate, with liberal stipulations that will allow your side to bring in as many folks as you’d like, whereas I am willing to take on all those fools, even in front of a predominantly Mexican/chicano hostile crowd, not only shows that I have a spine, but balls the size and weight of bowling balls, unlike the little pieces of cashews and raisins you call nuts!

And furthermore, I can care less if most of the folks on here are out of towners, FOOL!!! This is an A&B conversation, and attack devil!!! I’m addressing folks like you, who live out west, in L.A., punk bitch! Moreover, there’s nothing to buy into what I’m saying, for the simple fact of the matter is, I’M NOT SELLING ANYTHING, but spewing the unadulterated, pure “d” truth, concerning the matter!

Why do you have to get other folks in this parade devil? I’ve already laid down the gauntlet bitch, IT’S TIME FOR YOU MUTHAFUCKAS TO BITE THE BAIT AND ACCEPT THE OFFER THAT I’VE PUT FORTH!!!

Oh yeah, you’ll see how much of a “whiner” I really am supposed to be, as well as how REAL of a muthafucka, I truly am…

-AINT NO DEBATE NIGGER, PURE TRUTH.

*No, what it is, tio taco eating, wetback, desert rat, is the fact that you know I’m telling the truth, to where you, and those who represent your beliefs (black civilians who are getting murdered by ese sureno gangs, deserve to be shot, because of how black folks oppressed mexicans in the past; yeah right), don’t want none of what I’m putting down, in a live televised debate, because devils like you know that your asses will get sorely torn out, in a severe way.

-WOULD YOU LIKE SOME CHEESE WITH ALL THAT "WHINE" YOU ARE BRINGING.

*Devil I’m not whining, but rather, I’m calling you racist pussies out! A whiner is a fool who’s all talk, but who’s not willing to back his shit up, whereas I am muthafucka!

-LOL,

*That was a fake laugh, produced out of confusion and fear…

-YOU ARE THE DEFINITION OF A NIGGER.

*And you are the definition of a devil, son of a tijuano whore. And speaking of “nigger,” you and your kind ought to know, seeing as how you, and others of your kind, always brag about how mexicans are the new NIGGERS!!!!! I guess being a nigger like yourself, you would know how one would act, right-SEEING AS HOW YOU WANTED TO TAKE THE PLACE OF NIGGERS ALL ALONG!
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Postby Sentenza » October 11th, 2005, 7:18 am

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You should not use racist terms if you are not racist.
If he does its not you lack of education and wisdom....
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Postby TheReal » October 11th, 2005, 7:54 am

Sentenza said:

-You should not use racist terms if you are not racist.

*I understand what you're saying, and was thinking about that very thing, while I was typing those words, however, by calling me a "nigger," as well as justifying the murder of innocent black civilians, even down to little children, is what compelled me to talk to him in such a way.

But I understand what you're saying, and will try to do better...
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Postby DOOBIE'S BACK » October 11th, 2005, 7:56 am

CHECK THIS OUT CHANGO AKA REAL, YOU AINT PROVED A DAMN THING. YOU CRY ABOUT HISPANICS TAKING FROM BLACK CULTURE AND BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, SHIT GOES IN ONE EAR AND OUT THE OTHER. LETS TALK HERE AND NOW. NIGGERS SHITTED ON EVERYONE IN THE U.S AND NOW THE PAYBACK IS TENFOLD. AINT NO ARGUING. POINT BLANK PERIOD! GO KICK ROCKS WITH YOUR "WOE, THE BLACK MAN PITY" GROW A SPINE, IF YOU WANT TO SEE CHANGE, THEN BE CHANGE. I DONT HEAR OF YOU TRYING TO EASE THE TENSIONS. INSTEAD, YOU ARE CRYING AND MOANING ABOUT SHIT YOU KNOW IS TRUE. NOW I'M NOT HERE FOR A PISSING CONTEST WITH YOU. I DONT HAVE THAT MUCH TIME. MAYBE YOU DO, SO GET OFF THE WHOLE "BLACK PPL ARE INNOCENT" BOLOGNA. WE DONT WANT/NEED YOUR KIND ANYWAY. AND OBVIOUSLY, WHITE FOLKS(CERTAIN) SEE THAT WAY TOO. YOU BURNED YOUR BIRDGES AND NOW ITS TIME FOR THE MEXICAN REDEMPTION!!
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Postby Sentenza » October 11th, 2005, 7:59 am

TheReal wrote:Sentenza said:

-You should not use racist terms if you are not racist.

*I understand what you're saying, and was thinking about that very thing, while I was typing those words, however, by calling me a "nigger," as well as justifying the murder of innocent black civilians, even down to little children, is what compelled me to talk to him in such a way.

But I understand what you're saying, and will try to do better...


I know i know, but not becoming racist even if someone else does is a sign of strength. 8)

Like i said anyone who advocates senseless killings, no matter if he is brown, black, white, green or purple and no matter in which direction is a dirty son of a bitch. Period.
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Postby Sentenza » October 11th, 2005, 8:11 am

DOOBIE'S BACK wrote:CHECK THIS OUT CHANGO AKA REAL, YOU AINT PROVED A DAMN THING. YOU CRY ABOUT HISPANICS TAKING FROM BLACK CULTURE AND BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, SHIT GOES IN ONE EAR AND OUT THE OTHER. LETS TALK HERE AND NOW. NIGGERS SHITTED ON EVERYONE IN THE U.S AND NOW THE PAYBACK IS TENFOLD. AINT NO ARGUING. POINT BLANK PERIOD! GO KICK ROCKS WITH YOUR "WOE, THE BLACK MAN PITY" GROW A SPINE, IF YOU WANT TO SEE CHANGE, THEN BE CHANGE. I DONT HEAR OF YOU TRYING TO EASE THE TENSIONS. INSTEAD, YOU ARE CRYING AND MOANING ABOUT SHIT YOU KNOW IS TRUE. NOW I'M NOT HERE FOR A PISSING CONTEST WITH YOU. I DONT HAVE THAT MUCH TIME. MAYBE YOU DO, SO GET OFF THE WHOLE "BLACK PPL ARE INNOCENT" BOLOGNA. WE DONT WANT/NEED YOUR KIND ANYWAY. AND OBVIOUSLY, WHITE FOLKS(CERTAIN) SEE THAT WAY TOO. YOU BURNED YOUR BIRDGES AND NOW ITS TIME FOR THE MEXICAN REDEMPTION!!


Hatred is a very bad advisor to solve problems.
What did Blacks in general do to the Mexicans to deserve this hatred?
I know there are lots of killings in the streets but mexicans and blacks are killing each other in the same amount.
Also its the way of life gangmembers choose. "Live by the gun, die by the gun."
So take the street warfare out and tell me:

What have Blacks done to Mexicans to deserve this racism and hatred?

By the way, the same questions goes the other way round?
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Postby perongregory » October 11th, 2005, 9:30 am

I don't know why stupid muthafuckas always want to fuck with black people. Cause the point is, when you piss enough black people off its going to be fucking hell! Cause the only blacks they can fight are the ones with nothing to lose, who don't give a muthafuckin shit about anything. 15,000 more latino bangers in LA than blacks, but black bangers have a homocide rate 3x higher amongst themselves. Think about that murderous rage turned the other way. Think about when all that rage from people talking shit about you, backstabbing you, murdering you, all that shit reaches its apex. It's going to be like in the bible when david took out 1000 philistines with 100 men. Shit, and a lot blacks aren't scared to die, because whatever they got beyond this life has to be heaven compared to this fucked, racist, ratpack, unfair shit.
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Postby TheReal » October 11th, 2005, 10:13 am

-CHECK THIS OUT CHANGO AKA REAL,

*What beaner, AKA DOOKIE SHIT!

-YOU AINT PROVED A DAMN THING.

*Look devil, I can care less whether or not you will place an imprimatur on what I’ve said, supposedly guaranteeing it some type of credibility, for the simple fact of the matter is, the truth I put forth does indeed stand on its’ own. Moreover, the truths that I’ve put forth, can’t be adequately addressed by you, outside of sophist, BS rantings, rhetoric and straw man arguments, that devils like you are infamously and notoriously known for putting up.

But then again, what am I to expect from an inept pussy intellect like yourself?

-YOU CRY ABOUT HISPANICS TAKING FROM BLACK CULTURE AND BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, SHIT GOES IN ONE EAR AND OUT THE OTHER.

*Son of a tijuano ho, I don’t give a damn if certain Hispanics/latinos co-opted, and arrogated from black culture, to where me highlighting them would be frivolous, seeing as how there are Hispanics/latinos who are indeed black, or those with black ancestry.

Hell no devil, I’m not talking about them, I’M TALKING ABOUT YOUR PEOPLE FOOL!!! You know mestizos like yourself, who claim no black ancestry, and who are foot soldiers for the devil’s army! You’re the muthafuckas who are the soul patrolling, cultural bandits, I’m referring to, one trick pony bastard!

-LETS TALK HERE AND NOW.

*What the fuck you think I’ve been doing pussy?? I haven’t gone anywhere. But I have proposed a debate, so that a wider audience can get a look at your people’s shit, and the justifications you devils use, in order to justify murdering innocent black civilians, even if they’re children!

-NIGGERS SHITTED ON EVERYONE IN THE U.S AND NOW THE PAYBACK IS TENFOLD. AINT NO ARGUING. POINT BLANK PERIOD!

*Oh BS muthafucka, and you complain about my whining???? All someone would have to do is check out the previous post of mine, where I addressed this son of a bitch, in regards to this statement of his. This desert rat pussy knows he has no real arguments to throw back at me, so what he does is repeat statements of his, from previous arguments with me, but will never, and can never, deal with the responses that I throw back at him!

Again, go read the previous post of mine, where I am addressing this pussy regarding black folks supposedly pissing and shitting on everyone in the U.S., including the government, and you will realize and see how desperate this devil is to come back at me, with a semblance of intelligence, when in reality, this bitch is nothing more than a dull, dimwitted, sucker paul muthafucka, with nothing of substance to say!

-GO KICK ROCKS WITH YOUR "WOE, THE BLACK MAN PITY"

* “GO KICK ROCKS”? Again, another black expression, coming from a cultural bandit, white supremacist Mexican…

-GROW A SPINE,

*If anyone needs to grow a spine, it’s you devil, seeing as how your cowardly, and bitchmade ways, has made your manhood, and fortitude, come under serious question! Again, I’m willing to take on all you bitches, and those of your kind, along with your white supporters, who feel that killing innocent black civilians is justified, because of some supposed systematic injustices that black folks have heaped upon your kind, and the world! Oh yeah muthafucka, let’s bring it on, and open up the books and the historical record on this one devil, and we will truly see who’s the last man standing, who has a spine, with the nuts the size of bowling balls, unlike the withered prunes you call cajones!

- IF YOU WANT TO SEE CHANGE, THEN BE CHANGE.

*Muthafucka I am invoking change with a live televised debate!! You see, outside of internet forums or whatnot, the world hasn’t really seen pure chicano rage in the media, neither have your concerns or issues been put on front street, whereas I’m only trying to facilitate that reality! Don’t you want the rest of the world to hear why your evil kind justifies the outright murder of black civilians, because of black folks back in the day, during a specific time frame, fucking with your people and all? Don’t you want that shit exposed???

So no bitch, I’m about change, whereas, you and those who represent your views, are nothing more than cowardly BITCHES!!!!

-I DONT HEAR OF YOU TRYING TO EASE THE TENSIONS.


*Here this forktongued, hypocrite snake devil’s going to accuse me of not ‘TRYING TO EASE THE TENSIONS” between blacks and mexicans, when this fool says:

- YOU BURNED YOUR BIRDGES AND NOW ITS TIME FOR THE MEXICAN REDEMPTION!!

- WE DONT WANT/NEED YOUR KIND ANYWAY.

On the strength of these statements, why in the fuck should I even lift a part of my pinky finger, to even try and ease tensions with a people who have an undying, latent, and white supremacist hatred for my people. You see, I don’t give a damn about you not needing us, nor wanting anything to do with us (if this is truly the case on your part, then stop attending black clubs, functions, fucking black men, or women; listening to, and performing our music; etc.), because in the end, I respect a racial group’s boundaries in wanting to preserve their own culture and heritage.

HOWEVER, when devils like you who believe this way, feel justified in killing innocent black civilians just because they are black, while trying to convince the world that the killings are part and parcel of simple gang warfare, or if that doesn’t work, claim the killings as being justified, for some alleged historical oppression that black folks have mounted upon mexicans/chicanos-THAT’S WHEN I GO IN FOR THE KILL ON LYING SNAKES LIKE YOU SONS OF BITCHES!!!!

Preserving and loving your heritage and culture, should never devolve into wanting to commit genocide upon another racial group, nor justifying it’s practices. Devil, you Mexican/chicanos aren’t going for no type of redemption! There’s no noble bent on what you devils are doing, no more than if I were to kick sand on a scrawny nerd at a beach!!

Naw fool, you and your kind have no honor, and are some deceitful, slick bastards, in how you fool black people (e.g. Tupac) into thinking that you folks are fellow oppressed individuals, who are fighting the same fight, with the same obstacles and enemy! That’s what the biggest double cross is, and you know this bitch!

Not only that, you and your evil kind will view black folks overtures to your people, as a sign that black folks are weak and running scared. You feel that black folks wanting to unite with mexicans as something that displays to you, the fact that black folks are ashamed of their own culture, history, and who they are as a people, to where they have to hide under the banner of your people, and pretend as if there is a united front!

You also accuse black people of wanting to unite with your kind, simply because they want to use mexicans/chicanos, in order to assist black folks in extracting something from the system, as if mexicans/chicanos haven’t used black folks similarly.

So again, uniting, and easing tensions with your kind isn’t worth it devil, because why should a sane man, who’s hip to your people’s game, want to unite with a group of devils, who speak evil of, their good intentions! That’s why Krdej (I think that’s his name) can view black folks as allowing mexicans into their gangs, as something bad, from the standpoint that he viewed black folks being non-racist enough, to where they allowed mexicans into their gangs, as a sign of weakness, on the part of black folks; because in his mind, he’s sees black folks practice of being a non-racial, as black folks needing mexicans in their midst, as opposed to, again, viewing the overtures that these black folks had, as genuine feelings of non-racist egalitarianism.

But you see, your kind is too arrogant to see this, or don’t want to see this!

In the end, it’s your kind who isn’t truly needed by black folks, because in the end, mexicans can’t provide, introduce, nor incorporate anything within the black community that’s positive, nor do you have anything of long standing value that we really need. So in the end, if there’s a people who’s not really needed, and from the gripes of white folks in this country, concerning the border issue, wanted-IT’S YOU AND YOUR PEOPLE, DEVIL!

-INSTEAD, YOU ARE CRYING AND MOANING ABOUT SHIT YOU KNOW IS TRUE.

*I’m not crying and moaning about a damn thing, son of tijuano junkie ho, with dirty snatch, rather, I’M RAILING AGAINST IT, to the point where I’m willing to debate you, or any other folks who support you, in a live televised debate!! Truth be told, it’s you who is truly doing all the crying and moaning, seeing as how you will squirm and recoil, at the thought of taking me on in a live televised debate!

Man, you can’t get more bitchmade than this!!! Furthermore, I don’t believe an ounce of what you’re saying, as being the truth, but rather what I am saying, is full of truth, which in the end, rankles your sensibilities.

But then again, what should I expect from a bitch, but to try to convince me of what I should believe, as opposed to what I truly do believe. Man later for you, and all your jedi-mindfuck tactics. Go use that on a black person who wants to ride your jock and shit, because your BS ain’t working on this black man, not now, nor ever!

-NOW I'M NOT HERE FOR A PISSING CONTEST WITH YOU. I DONT HAVE THAT MUCH TIME.

*Muthafucka, “pissing” ain’t got a damn thing to do with anything, pervert! And obviously you have a little time, seeing as how we’re going back and forth! Furthermore, I wasn’t just calling you out, but those other devil brethren of yours, who feel that the killing of innocent black civilians is justified, because of black folks and their alleged historical oppression of mexicans!!!!


-MAYBE YOU DO,

*I have a couple of more months…

-SO GET OFF THE WHOLE "BLACK PPL ARE INNOCENT" BOLOGNA.

*Look bitch, I never said that “BLACK PPL ARE INNOCENT”, rather, I was given you, and those white folks who come to your defense, an historical outlay of what really went down back in the day, when black gangs ruled the streets of L.A., and how they dealt with the overall Mexican/chicano community! You can check out all the posts that I’ve put up on this thread, as well as on other threads, throughout this site, wherein you’ll read the truth of the matter.

It is you muthafuckas who are using sophist, and very contemporary lenses, to assess a damage, that wasn’t really there from the get go!

Truth be told, and you know this devil, black gangs never had as an orchestrated campaign, the desire, nor the will, to annihilate the total Mexican population, just because they were Mexican, neither did they fuck with the much smaller barrios that could’ve been easily smashed on, by the superior black gangs with the numbers. You know this devil! When black gangs ruled the streets, there were hardly any ethnic gang rivalries, because each ethnic group respected each other’s boundaries. Hell, a black gang from back in the day would overlook the small barrio on their block, just to go fuck with a black set, some miles a way!!

This is how it basically went down back then son of a bitch and you know this!!! And furthermore, black gangs-again-DIDN’T TARGET INNOCENT MEXICAN CIVILIANS FOR MURDER!!!!!

But oooooooooh, when you eses got the numbers, that’s when all this delicate harmony disintegrated, to where you fools became arrogant, and heady with your power, to where it allowed you to do something to black folks, that black gangs never did to your people-AND THAT’S THE OUTRIGHT SAVAGE, AND WANTON KILLINGS, OF INNOCENT MEXICAN CIVILIANS!!!

And there’s nothing that you, or your white comrades can say, to change the integrity of the historical record!

-AND OBVIOUSLY, WHITE FOLKS(CERTAIN) SEE THAT WAY TOO.

*I know whites will see it your way, as long as your killing innocent black civilians. This just goes to show me how your kind and white folks, are latent brothers and sisters in the struggle, and that your gripes with one another, are mere interfamily squabbles.

Man, Tupac was wrong about your people…
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Postby blackmanofhonor » October 11th, 2005, 11:21 am

TheReal wrote:-CHECK THIS OUT CHANGO AKA REAL,

*What beaner, AKA DOOKIE SHIT!

-YOU AINT PROVED A DAMN THING.

*Look devil, I can care less whether or not you will place an imprimatur on what I’ve said, supposedly guaranteeing it some type of credibility, for the simple fact of the matter is, the truth I put forth does indeed stand on its’ own. Moreover, the truths that I’ve put forth, can’t be adequately addressed by you, outside of sophist, BS rantings, rhetoric and straw man arguments, that devils like you are infamously and notoriously known for putting up.

But then again, what am I to expect from an inept pussy intellect like yourself?

-YOU CRY ABOUT HISPANICS TAKING FROM BLACK CULTURE AND BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, SHIT GOES IN ONE EAR AND OUT THE OTHER.

*Son of a tijuano ho, I don’t give a damn if certain Hispanics/latinos co-opted, and arrogated from black culture, to where me highlighting them would be frivolous, seeing as how there are Hispanics/latinos who are indeed black, or those with black ancestry.

Hell no devil, I’m not talking about them, I’M TALKING ABOUT YOUR PEOPLE FOOL!!! You know mestizos like yourself, who claim no black ancestry, and who are foot soldiers for the devil’s army! You’re the muthafuckas who are the soul patrolling, cultural bandits, I’m referring to, one trick pony bastard!

-LETS TALK HERE AND NOW.

*What the fu-- you think I’ve been doing pussy?? I haven’t gone anywhere. But I have proposed a debate, so that a wider audience can get a look at your people’s shit, and the justifications you devils use, in order to justify murdering innocent black civilians, even if they’re children!

-NIGGERS SHITTED ON EVERYONE IN THE U.S AND NOW THE PAYBACK IS TENFOLD. AINT NO ARGUING. POINT BLANK PERIOD!

*Oh BS muthafucka, and you complain about my whining???? All someone would have to do is check out the previous post of mine, where I addressed this son of a bitch, in regards to this statement of his. This desert rat pussy knows he has no real arguments to throw back at me, so what he does is repeat statements of his, from previous arguments with me, but will never, and can never, deal with the responses that I throw back at him!

Again, go read the previous post of mine, where I am addressing this pussy regarding black folks supposedly pissing and shitting on everyone in the U.S., including the government, and you will realize and see how desperate this devil is to come back at me, with a semblance of intelligence, when in reality, this bitch is nothing more than a dull, dimwitted, sucker paul muthafucka, with nothing of substance to say!

-GO KICK ROCKS WITH YOUR "WOE, THE BLACK MAN PITY"

* “GO KICK ROCKS”? Again, another black expression, coming from a cultural bandit, white supremacist Mexican…

-GROW A SPINE,

*If anyone needs to grow a spine, it’s you devil, seeing as how your cowardly, and bitchmade ways, has made your manhood, and fortitude, come under serious question! Again, I’m willing to take on all you women, and those of your kind, along with your white supporters, who feel that killing innocent black civilians is justified, because of some supposed systematic injustices that black folks have heaped upon your kind, and the world! Oh yeah muthafucka, let’s bring it on, and open up the books and the historical record on this one devil, and we will truly see who’s the last man standing, who has a spine, with the nuts the size of bowling balls, unlike the withered prunes you call cajones!

- IF YOU WANT TO SEE CHANGE, THEN BE CHANGE.

*Muthafucka I am invoking change with a live televised debate!! You see, outside of internet forums or whatnot, the world hasn’t really seen pure chicano rage in the media, neither have your concerns or issues been put on front street, whereas I’m only trying to facilitate that reality! Don’t you want the rest of the world to hear why your evil kind justifies the outright murder of black civilians, because of black folks back in the day, during a specific time frame, #%@&#%@ with your people and all? Don’t you want that shit exposed???

So no bitch, I’m about change, whereas, you and those who represent your views, are nothing more than cowardly women!!!!

-I DONT HEAR OF YOU TRYING TO EASE THE TENSIONS.


*Here this forktongued, hypocrite snake devil’s going to accuse me of not ‘TRYING TO EASE THE TENSIONS” between blacks and mexicans, when this fool says:

- YOU BURNED YOUR BIRDGES AND NOW ITS TIME FOR THE MEXICAN REDEMPTION!!

- WE DONT WANT/NEED YOUR KIND ANYWAY.

On the strength of these statements, why in the fu-- should I even lift a part of my pinky finger, to even try and ease tensions with a people who have an undying, latent, and white supremacist hatred for my people. You see, I don’t give a damn about you not needing us, nor wanting anything to do with us (if this is truly the case on your part, then stop attending black clubs, functions, #%@&#%@ black men, or women; listening to, and performing our music; etc.), because in the end, I respect a racial group’s boundaries in wanting to preserve their own culture and heritage.

HOWEVER, when devils like you who believe this way, feel justified in killing innocent black civilians just because they are black, while trying to convince the world that the killings are part and parcel of simple gang warfare, or if that doesn’t work, claim the killings as being justified, for some alleged historical oppression that black folks have mounted upon mexicans/chicanos-THAT’S WHEN I GO IN FOR THE KILL ON LYING SNAKES LIKE YOU SONS OF women!!!!

Preserving and loving your heritage and culture, should never devolve into wanting to commit genocide upon another racial group, nor justifying it’s practices. Devil, you Mexican/chicanos aren’t going for no type of redemption! There’s no noble bent on what you devils are doing, no more than if I were to kick sand on a scrawny nerd at a beach!!

Naw fool, you and your kind have no honor, and are some deceitful, slick bastards, in how you fool black people (e.g. Tupac) into thinking that you folks are fellow oppressed individuals, who are fighting the same fight, with the same obstacles and enemy! That’s what the biggest double cross is, and you know this bitch!

Not only that, you and your evil kind will view black folks overtures to your people, as a sign that black folks are weak and running scared. You feel that black folks wanting to unite with mexicans as something that displays to you, the fact that black folks are ashamed of their own culture, history, and who they are as a people, to where they have to hide under the banner of your people, and pretend as if there is a united front!

You also accuse black people of wanting to unite with your kind, simply because they want to use mexicans/chicanos, in order to assist black folks in extracting something from the system, as if mexicans/chicanos haven’t used black folks similarly.

So again, uniting, and easing tensions with your kind isn’t worth it devil, because why should a sane man, who’s hip to your people’s game, want to unite with a group of devils, who speak evil of, their good intentions! That’s why Krdej (I think that’s his name) can view black folks as allowing mexicans into their gangs, as something bad, from the standpoint that he viewed black folks being non-racist enough, to where they allowed mexicans into their gangs, as a sign of weakness, on the part of black folks; because in his mind, he’s sees black folks practice of being a non-racial, as black folks needing mexicans in their midst, as opposed to, again, viewing the overtures that these black folks had, as genuine feelings of non-racist egalitarianism.

But you see, your kind is too arrogant to see this, or don’t want to see this!

In the end, it’s your kind who isn’t truly needed by black folks, because in the end, mexicans can’t provide, introduce, nor incorporate anything within the black community that’s positive, nor do you have anything of long standing value that we really need. So in the end, if there’s a people who’s not really needed, and from the gripes of white folks in this country, concerning the border issue, wanted-IT’S YOU AND YOUR PEOPLE, DEVIL!

-INSTEAD, YOU ARE CRYING AND MOANING ABOUT SHIT YOU KNOW IS TRUE.

*I’m not crying and moaning about a damn thing, son of tijuano junkie ho, with dirty snatch, rather, I’M RAILING AGAINST IT, to the point where I’m willing to debate you, or any other folks who support you, in a live televised debate!! Truth be told, it’s you who is truly doing all the crying and moaning, seeing as how you will squirm and recoil, at the thought of taking me on in a live televised debate!

Man, you can’t get more bitchmade than this!!! Furthermore, I don’t believe an ounce of what you’re saying, as being the truth, but rather what I am saying, is full of truth, which in the end, rankles your sensibilities.

But then again, what should I expect from a bitch, but to try to convince me of what I should believe, as opposed to what I truly do believe. Man later for you, and all your jedi-mindfuck tactics. Go use that on a black person who wants to ride your jock and shit, because your BS ain’t working on this black man, not now, nor ever!

-NOW I'M NOT HERE FOR A PISSING CONTEST WITH YOU. I DONT HAVE THAT MUCH TIME.

*Muthafucka, “pissing” ain’t got a damn thing to do with anything, pervert! And obviously you have a little time, seeing as how we’re going back and forth! Furthermore, I wasn’t just calling you out, but those other devil brethren of yours, who feel that the killing of innocent black civilians is justified, because of black folks and their alleged historical oppression of mexicans!!!!


-MAYBE YOU DO,

*I have a couple of more months…

-SO GET OFF THE WHOLE "BLACK PPL ARE INNOCENT" BOLOGNA.

*Look bitch, I never said that “BLACK PPL ARE INNOCENT”, rather, I was given you, and those white folks who come to your defense, an historical outlay of what really went down back in the day, when black gangs ruled the streets of L.A., and how they dealt with the overall Mexican/chicano community! You can check out all the posts that I’ve put up on this thread, as well as on other threads, throughout this site, wherein you’ll read the truth of the matter.

It is you muthafuckas who are using sophist, and very contemporary lenses, to assess a damage, that wasn’t really there from the get go!

Truth be told, and you know this devil, black gangs never had as an orchestrated campaign, the desire, nor the will, to annihilate the total Mexican population, just because they were Mexican, neither did they fu-- with the much smaller barrios that could’ve been easily smashed on, by the superior black gangs with the numbers. You know this devil! When black gangs ruled the streets, there were hardly any ethnic gang rivalries, because each ethnic group respected each other’s boundaries. Hell, a black gang from back in the day would overlook the small barrio on their block, just to go fu-- with a black set, some miles a way!!

This is how it basically went down back then son of a bitch and you know this!!! And furthermore, black gangs-again-DIDN’T TARGET INNOCENT MEXICAN CIVILIANS FOR MURDER!!!!!

But oooooooooh, when you eses got the numbers, that’s when all this delicate harmony disintegrated, to where you fools became arrogant, and heady with your power, to where it allowed you to do something to black folks, that black gangs never did to your people-AND THAT’S THE OUTRIGHT SAVAGE, AND WANTON KILLINGS, OF INNOCENT MEXICAN CIVILIANS!!!

And there’s nothing that you, or your white comrades can say, to change the integrity of the historical record!

-AND OBVIOUSLY, WHITE FOLKS(CERTAIN) SEE THAT WAY TOO.

*I know whites will see it your way, as long as your killing innocent black civilians. This just goes to show me how your kind and white folks, are latent brothers and sisters in the struggle, and that your gripes with one another, are mere interfamily squabbles.

Man, Tupac was wrong about your people


Most whites dont give a fuck about mexicans,and they surely dont see them as ''brothers''.You should read stormfront sometimes.
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Postby RuthlessCray » October 11th, 2005, 11:28 am

perongregory wrote:I don't know why stupid muthafuckas always want to fu-- with black people. Cause the point is, when you piss enough black people off its going to be #%@&#%@ hell! Cause the only blacks they can fight are the ones with nothing to lose, who don't give a muthafuckin shit about anything. 15,000 more latino bangers in LA than blacks, but black bangers have a homocide rate 3x higher amongst themselves. Think about that murderous rage turned the other way. Think about when all that rage from people talking shit about you, backstabbing you, murdering you, all that shit reaches its apex. It's going to be like in the bible when david took out 1000 philistines with 100 men. Shit, and a lot blacks aren't scared to die, because whatever they got beyond this life has to be heaven compared to this #%@&, racist, ratpack, unfair shit.


Dont ever try to scare mexicans with that "blacks kill more" crap. blacks kill EACH OTHER. get it. EACH OTHER more. you aint scaring me with that bs. what about the blacks gangs at war with chicano gangs? if blacks are so much harder shouldnt they have taken out their mexican enemies along time ago?? please.....their aint going to be no big war between blacks and mexicans. just idiots willing to die over stupid shit.

Doobie- Its too bad that you have to drop down to that low level and start calling people "NIGGERS". all your doing is taking a big step backwards in helping any probelms between black and brown. same for the real with his big finger pointing at US all the time. but f*** all that. I dont care how pissed I am, I will NEVER EVER..NEVER come in here and start calling people "niggers". I wasnt raised like that. its just sad that some of you are probably much much older than me but still come in here calling each other names like little kids. I'm all for peace between blacks and brown but name calling and just blaming isnt getting us anywhere.
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Postby blackmanofhonor » October 11th, 2005, 11:44 am

RuthlessBone wrote:
perongregory wrote:I don't know why stupid muthafuckas always want to fu-- with black people. Cause the point is, when you piss enough black people off its going to be #%@&#%@ hell! Cause the only blacks they can fight are the ones with nothing to lose, who don't give a muthafuckin shit about anything. 15,000 more latino bangers in LA than blacks, but black bangers have a homocide rate 3x higher amongst themselves. Think about that murderous rage turned the other way. Think about when all that rage from people talking shit about you, backstabbing you, murdering you, all that shit reaches its apex. It's going to be like in the bible when david took out 1000 philistines with 100 men. Shit, and a lot blacks aren't scared to die, because whatever they got beyond this life has to be heaven compared to this #%@&, racist, ratpack, unfair shit.


Dont ever try to scare mexicans with that "blacks kill more" crap. blacks kill EACH OTHER. get it. EACH OTHER more. you aint scaring me with that bs. what about the blacks gangs at war with chicano gangs? if blacks are so much harder shouldnt they have taken out their mexican enemies along time ago?? please.....their aint going to be no big war between blacks and mexicans. just idiots willing to die over stupid shit.
Doobie- Its too bad that you have to drop down to that low level and start calling people "NIGGERS". all your doing is taking a big step backwards in helping any probelms between black and brown. same for the real with his big finger pointing at US all the time. but f*** all that. I dont care how pissed I am, I will NEVER EVER..NEVER come in here and start calling people "niggers". I wasnt raised like that. its just sad that some of you are probably much much older than me but still come in here calling each other names like little kids. I'm all for peace between blacks and brown but name calling and just blaming isnt getting us anywhere.



Both mexicans and blacks kill each other in much higher numbers than whites.Everytime you hear about a homicide its usually black on black,or brown on brown,and occasianally black on brown or vice versa.Thats why its mostly us in the prisons.
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Postby se11 » October 11th, 2005, 11:53 am

perongregory wrote:I don't know why stupid muthafuckas always want to fu-- with black people. Cause the point is, when you piss enough black people off its going to be #%@&#%@ hell! Cause the only blacks they can fight are the ones with nothing to lose, who don't give a muthafuckin shit about anything. 15,000 more latino bangers in LA than blacks, but black bangers have a homocide rate 3x higher amongst themselves. Think about that murderous rage turned the other way. Think about when all that rage from people talking shit about you, backstabbing you, murdering you, all that shit reaches its apex. It's going to be like in the bible when david took out 1000 philistines with 100 men. Shit, and a lot blacks aren't scared to die, because whatever they got beyond this life has to be heaven compared to this #%@&, racist, ratpack, unfair shit.


thats not something you should be proud of. mexicans arent scared of blacks, and the ones that are, are the reason there are racist. why are people racist? because they are scared of blacks. they dont want blacks robbing them, killing them for no reason, coming into their neighborhoods and ruining shit, and causing trouble. thats why people are racist, because they are scared, and frankly you can't blame them for that. if a mexican knows if he goes in the wrong neighborhood blacks are gonna rush him, why shouldnt he be racist, there racist twords him and he knows it.

Most whites dont give a fu-- about mexicans,and they surely dont see them as ''brothers''.You should read stormfront sometimes.

stormfront doesnt account for "most" of the white race. im sure if you went on some black power site, you'd see a lot of racist shit twords mexicans and whites as well, why dont you point him in that direction. some white might not care about mexicans, but at least they dont go shooting at them when they come in our neighborhood.
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Postby blackmanofhonor » October 11th, 2005, 12:00 pm

se11 wrote:
perongregory wrote:I don't know why stupid muthafuckas always want to fu-- with black people. Cause the point is, when you piss enough black people off its going to be #%@&#%@ hell! Cause the only blacks they can fight are the ones with nothing to lose, who don't give a muthafuckin shit about anything. 15,000 more latino bangers in LA than blacks, but black bangers have a homocide rate 3x higher amongst themselves. Think about that murderous rage turned the other way. Think about when all that rage from people talking shit about you, backstabbing you, murdering you, all that shit reaches its apex. It's going to be like in the bible when david took out 1000 philistines with 100 men. Shit, and a lot blacks aren't scared to die, because whatever they got beyond this life has to be heaven compared to this #%@&, racist, ratpack, unfair shit.


thats not something you should be proud of. mexicans arent scared of blacks, and the ones that are, are the reason there are racist. why are people racist? because they are scared of blacks. they dont want blacks robbing them, killing them for no reason, coming into their neighborhoods and ruining shit, and causing trouble. thats why people are racist, because they are scared, and frankly you can't blame them for that. if a mexican knows if he goes in the wrong neighborhood blacks are gonna rush him, why shouldnt he be racist, there racist twords him and he knows it.
Most whites dont give a fu-- about mexicans,and they surely dont see them as ''brothers''.You should read stormfront sometimes.

stormfront doesnt account for "most" of the white race. im sure if you went on some black power site, you'd see a lot of racist shit twords mexicans and whites as well, why dont you point him in that direction. some white might not care about mexicans, but at least they dont go shooting at them when they come in our neighborhood.



What race has the history of being the most oppressive and racist?WHites.So using your mentality its ok to hate whites.

And I dont know of any Black Power sites where blacks come together to talk about ''getting rid of the muds''.Can you show me one?

Oh and whites might not shoot at mexicans when they come in thier neighborhoods now.They did however shoot them when they stole thier land.
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Postby Dr. Gonzo » October 11th, 2005, 12:31 pm

TheReal wrote:*Look bitch, I never said that “BLACK PPL ARE INNOCENT”, rather, I was given you, and those white folks who come to your defense, an historical outlay of what really went down back in the day, when black gangs ruled the streets of L.A., and how they dealt with the overall Mexican/chicano community! You can check out all the posts that I’ve put up on this thread, as well as on other threads, throughout this site, wherein you’ll read the truth of the matter.


When did Black gangs rule East LA? LOL

The only place black gangs were dominant was in South Central, Watts, Compton and Inglewood basically the south of LA. Mexicans have ALWAYS have that huge chunk of East LA all to themselves. So to say blacks ruled the streets of LA is ludicrous. Each race has had a piece of LA and now with all the central american and mexicans moving into black commnuties the blacks piece of LA is rapidly shrinking. But don't worry mexicans and central americans don't really get along to well so when some Salvadorean kills a Mexican, I'm sure that will bring a smile to your face.
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Postby TheReal » October 11th, 2005, 12:38 pm

-What race has the history of being the most oppressive and racist?WHites.So using your mentality its ok to hate whites.

*This fool will never hate whites that way, because he and white folks squabbles are interfamily squabbles. Oh don't get me wrong, they have problems with each other (white and brown)-IT'S JUST DIFFERENT!

-And I dont know of any Black Power sites where blacks come together to talk about ''getting rid of the muds''.Can you show me one?

*This fool doesn't know of any black website that advocates getting rid of mexicans, blocking the border on mexicans, killing mexicans, etc. At best, these sites may discuss them not entering into the country illegally and receiving privileges, but beyond that, there are no orchestrated discussions on campaigns to kill them, block the borders, etc. This is an example of how these racist mexicans will lie and exaggerate about black folks and their racism, leaving folks with the impression that black folks are nazis, that have oppressed mexicans so heavily and brutally, to where the next logical step would've been the gas chambers for mexicans, if mexicans had not have gained their high numbers and all!

This again, is the propaganda timeline these racist bitches are working on.
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Postby TheReal » October 11th, 2005, 12:43 pm

When did Black gangs rule East LA? LOL

*I wasn't referring to East LA!

-The only place black gangs were dominant was in South Central, Watts, Compton and Inglewood basically the south of LA.

*That's what I was inferring.

-Mexicans have ALWAYS have that huge chunk of East LA all to themselves. So to say blacks ruled the streets of LA is ludicrous.

*Blacks ruled the areas that you mentioned, which is a significant piece of the L.A. pie, considering that eses only real power was in east L.A.

-Each race has had a piece of LA and now with all the central american and mexicans moving into black commnuties the blacks piece of LA is rapidly shrinking.

*Tell me something that I don't know. That's not my concern, rather, the killing of innocent black civilians, who aren't related/civilian/non-affiliated.

-But don't worry mexicans and central americans don't really get along to well so when some Salvadorean kills a Mexican, I'm sure that will bring a smile to your face.

*Maybe so, but then again, I'm talking about the killing of innocent black civilians, even children, by ese sureno gang members-JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE BLACK!
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