Controversy about the word nigga

[sexy365]

the word nigga, nigger, negro, colored, coon, poarch-monkey, and etc............. should not be used when adressing a black person. not by whites or any other race other than black people. we as blacks get made when others call us the n word but are quick to call each other the words that we hate so much. whites have used it so long that they don't need to use it anymore for any reason at all. jennifer lopez should have never used that word she's a white woman herself.(basically) i don't like when any one uses the word but it hurts even more when some one from another race uses it.

[wcrockets]

It's my understanding that Jennifer Lopez is not white, that she is Mexican. If you have verifiable proof to the contrary, then please correct me. Let's get it right.

Number two, I've had black friends I was living with for a couple years come up and throw their arms around me and call me "my nigga." I didn't get any bad feelings from it. Sometimes they was playing around calling me honky too. We were just young men foolin about and nobody took anything personally.

I did not ever call them the n word in any of it's many derivates, however, because I knew they would find it hurtful even if they didn't respond negatively because they were my friend.

STILL, I sure won't be voting for any constitutional amendments about restricting free speech. I will not support dual legal systems with one standard for whites and another standard for everyone else because THAT would be racist in my view.

Perhaps the Chemical Brothers had it right when they just said "the brothers are gonna work it out." Peace.

[sexy365]

i really don't give a **** what she is, she has no right to use that word.
she's not black that's all that matters, blacks use the term as a greeting no more than that, but others get carried away with it. freedom of speech i'm down for that and i support it but what i won't allow is someone of or not of color to call me out my name. my name is sexy so call me that.

[wcrockets]

Lol.. ok sexy. No worries here I don't use the word nor hang with anyone that does. I also find it offensive. I just don't want the Government going around handing out tickets or jailing people who use words. That would violate the first amendment as it's authors originally intended and could get really ugly. We understand each other. Peace.

P.S. She IS Mexican .

[stateraised2000]

""blacks use the term as a greeting no more than that,""




c'mon sexy, i know a gang of black brothers who be hating on other blacks and they be talking bad about them, talking about "that punk ass n***a aint about stuff" or "we gonna take out that weak ass n***a"... dont sound like too much of a greeting to me... maybe overall its ment as a greeting but there IS more than that when its said. just depends on who's saying it and how they saying it.

[BIG DUSTY LOCO]

correction:

Jenny Lo Lo is 100% boriqua, puertoriquena. Maybe she wants to be white now...LOL.

[sexy365]

o.k we all live in diff. places. people, trends, words, and etc are diff. also. where i stay there is no such thing as black on black crime, or any crime for that matter. people have disagreements because their beliefs, feelings, ideas, opinions, and etc...... seem to clash but that's also what makes america so great. i love everybody. i can except someones differences as nothing more than a diff.ok j.lo isn't a white woman, but she should still keep the n word away from her lips.

[Pershing]

hey sexy,

what's up my nigga.

[sexy365]

ok, i'll be yo nigga as long as you give me you long, fat, huge, bat.

[Pershing]

Just tell me where u live and maybe we can arrange somethin.

[sexy365]

now thats what im talkin about

[Light_skin_boy]

wcrockets wrote:

I can clear that up easy. Bro means brother. It is not derogatory. Most white guys I know use it amongst each other when they are close.


I DONT KNOW ABOUT OVER THERE BUT OVER HERE IN AUSTRALIA ME ALOT OF US BLACK PEOPLE (ABORIGINAL) US THE WORD BRO TO A GOOD FRIEND OR A COUSIN EVEN BECAUSE THEY ARE LIKE A BROTHER TO YOU OR WE EVEN SAY BRUZ

BUT ON AOTHER TOPIC the WORD NI88A THE BLACK PEOPLE OVER HERE DONT REALLY SAY IT SOME PEOPLE DO BUT NOT MANY BECAUSE
WE ARE NOT AFRICAN AMERICAN WE ARE ABORIGINAL AUSTRALIAN WHICH MEANS BLACK AUSTRALIAN WE HAVE OTHER WORDS TO USE THAT MEAN BLACK LIKE NUNGA,URA JUST LIKE EACH DIFFERENT PERSON USES THERE TRIBAL WORD FOR BLACK MAN. BUT I DONT USE MUCH OF THOSE WORDS I AM PART BLACK BUT DONT REALLY LOOK IT
BTU ALOT OF RASICT WHITE PEOPLE CALL US ABO'S (SHORT FOR ABORIGINAL) WHICH IS LIKE A DISS SOME RACIST PEOPLE CALL US NI88AZ CAUSE I GUESS TEHY CANT SEE the DIFFERENCE...........

SO I GUESS ITS ALL DIFFERENT AROUND THE WORLD.......

[sexy365]

just don't do it.

[Noog]

I'm from East London, UK. I'm British Italian and live in Hackney, which is a multiracial borough in London. Here it is not as racially divided as in LA, but some divisions exist. The community is made up of West Indian (Jamaican and other West Indian Islands), Black British, White British, Vietnamese, Turkish, Kurdish, African, Bangladeshi, Pakistani, Indian, Irish and many more - a real melting pot.

I work with young people who have got onto the gangs here and want out. But the issue here is the use of 'nigga'. Recently, a young black man I am working with was fantasising about becoming a rap star and said that I was invited to the first gig afterparty and I would be welcome in the VIN lounge, which would be more inner circle than the VIP lounge. VIN lounge? I asked, 'yeah', said my lad, 'the Very Important Niggas lounge'. I had a mixed experience inside - part of me hated hearing a young black man use the word nigga, as I do not use the word in common speech myself, and I felt it was a denegration of himself. But, part of me was kind of honoured - though I am white, I was important to this young man (I'd helped him find housing and a job and helped him to think of other ways of making money than drug running!) and being in the VIN lounge was his way of saying thankyou, you are close to me. So for a moment I was a very important nigga, or is that wigga! At the end of the day though, I think even a black person using the word nigga is unconsciously colluding with a set of racist stereotypes which are ultimately damaging to the development of radical consciousness and change in all our communities. Let nigga go to the wastebin of history.

[sexy365]

YOU SAY LEAVE IT IN HISTORY, BUT OFTEN HISTORY IS ALWAYS INCLUDED IN THE PRESENT AND FUTURE. IF YOUR SAYING FORGET IT THEN I REALLY DON'T THINK THATS POSSIBLE. I'LL NEVER FORGET WHERE IT ORIGINATED FROM, WHO STARTED IT AND WHY.

[wcrockets]

But what he's saying is that hopefully your Grandchildren won't except as a historical footnote. If you want to hang on to it, in his opinion if I read him right, then you are part of the problem perpetuating it.

[stateraised2000]

YOU SAY LEAVE IT IN HISTORY, BUT OFTEN HISTORY IS ALWAYS INCLUDED IN THE PRESENT AND FUTURE. IF YOUR SAYING FORGET IT THEN I REALLY DON'T THINK THATS POSSIBLE. I'LL NEVER FORGET WHERE IT ORIGINATED FROM, WHO STARTED IT AND WHY.

say sexy. why u gonna catch feelings behind something that was started before you were even thought of? you can do all the "never forgetting" you want but thats not going to change history. its done and still going to be like that long after me and you are gone. dont get me wrong, i got love for the black race but you gotta realize theres "ni**as" in every race, just a different term for different races, i latino is called a wetback, a whiteboy is called a honky or peckerwood, a asian is called a buddahhead, a boriqua (rican) is called a bilingual ni**a, the list goes on and on.... i hope your above getting too butt hurt if you hear the phrase directed at you or another black. dont feel like your people are being singled out when that N word is used cause im sure every time one of the other races hears a dis directed twords them, with their "label" and their race they must feel the same way. like i said you cant change history so save yourself alot of hurt feelings and just consider the source. now if somebody steps up in your face and talks to you like that then its time to get ready to do what you have to do cause if they take it that far then it seems that they are getting ready to clean your clock. thats just my view of this...peace.

[wcrockets]

Yes that's what I've seen for sure. Before somebody steps to you they usually try to tear you down with words first. You have to understand the mind game before the physical one. Anyway I'm rambling..

[Michelle]

What do you think of this...I found this of a website...

Should Nigger be Used as a term of Endearment in the Black Community and Everywhere?
Randall Kennedy argues that the word nigger should be usable by all people as long as no one is being harmed. “There is nothing necessarily wrong with a white person saying nigger, just like there is nothing necessarily wrong with a black person saying it. What should matter is the context in which the word is spoken” (Kennedy 51). Here Kennedy argues that context can determine how nigger is used, and to treat the word otherwise would transform nigger into a kind of fetish. Fetish by definition means to treat something with unusual obsession or devotion. (Merriam-Webster 430). However, Randall Kennedy’s argument that all people can say nigger is easily contested because though the word is a fetish, it is a fetish for a reason. The word nigger creates an obsession for people because of its historical meaning. In other words, if the history of the word stigmatizes it, then how can common use of the word, even by those who perpetuated its historical meaning, generate a new meaning? Kennedy’s suggestion of people using the word only with good intentions shows his dismissal of the contextual past

[sexy365]

I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU ARE COMING FROM, BUT DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME. I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS SADLY TRUE, BUT WHY IT GOTTA BE THAT WAY. IT ALL BOILS DOWN TO WHAT YOU MEAN WHEN YOU SAY IT. IT CAN BE POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE. THE ONLY THING BAD ABOUT THAT IS YOU NEVER KNOW WHERE SOMEONE'S HEART IS AT WHEN THEY USE IT. IF A NON-WHITE PERSON SAYS IT AROUND ME ALL I THINK ABOUT IS THAT THEY ARE RACIST. IT'S THE FIRST THING THAT COMES TO MIND WHEN A NON-WHITE USES IT AROUND A BLACK. BECAUSE OF THE HISTORY AROUND THE WORD. AMERICA EXPECTS US TO LOOK AT THE WORD AND SAY" WHEN WHITES CALLED US THAT YEARS AGO THEY HATED US, BUT WHEN THEY CALL US THAT NOW THEY MEAN NO HARM" AND I DON'T THINK THAT THE REST OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY CAN THINK LIKE THAT . I KNOW EVERYONE THAT USES THE WORD IS NOT RACIST, BUT DOES EVERYONE ELSE?

[Michelle]

What do you think about, non-whites, asians for example. (Without European ancestry) using this word?

[Noog]

At the end of the day....arguements for and against 'nigga'...the arguement for the use is, in my veiw, flawed. True, black people must never forget history or the origins of the word and who perpetrated the hate BUT, at the end of the day... the word denegrates and demeans, even if it has been reclaimed from the language of the oppressor and taken on a host of different meanings to the original. We can understand this, its important, A step on the way. But to move on through the wounds of history, how would a conscious evolution continue? That niggas will always be niggas? Or that there might be a rejection of even a word reclaimed, to find a new place. Course, I ain't got all the answers, but in my guts, I feel like we need wrestle with a new and vbrave consciousness. Get revolutionary, get political. At the end of the day, there is only one race - the human race, divided into different ethnicities. So at root, we all one blood apart from the wonderful difference of colour, hue and tone, Viva la difference!

[sexy365]

FORGET THE SKIN COLOR, AND ALL YOU HAVE IS THE WORD. IT REALLY JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT A PERSON MEANS WHEN THEY USE THE WORD.

[outkast outlaw]

the word nigga everyone used it i dont see the problem with using that word just as long as you are not intending to offend

[STREETGANG111]

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[THALOCPASADENA]

Me personally I don't use the word nigga. Cause that's who I am I think that's real stupid when we as BLACK people, consider our selves to be niggas. I hate it when I see and hear my brothers greet another brother, as a nigga. That really disturbs me on how so many of our ant-sisters, died and BLACK leaders. Died so that we wouldn't be called a nigga or a nigger we really need to get it together, as a community and as a race we are so corrupted. That we put our selves down and we don't even realize it we are really messed up, we come from KINGS & QUEENS we are royalty. And it really hurts to see that we don't mind calling one another that the slave master, called our ant-sisters back in slavery. Ain't no way in the world we should be calling each other that word, but get mad if somebody of another race call you a nigga. That's stupid I hoenstly belive if Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. could see how our community is so screwed up he would honestly, turn over in his grave. And if he could have seen this before he took a stand he wouldn't have died, he would be like I'm going to die and this is the way they act. We really need to get it together we are falling to the bottom of the todom pole, we got other races doing better than us. And we are the strong we out here so screwed up that we're out here killing each other, we got our guns pointed in the wrong direction. Out here killing each other cause a brother is a crip or this brother is a blood, that's so dumb that you'll kill your brother. Over a color or street that we don't even own, I just hope that it isn't too late for us to turn around.

I REALY FEEL YOU BROTHER, I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY TOO....

[THALOCPASADENA]

"In the old days people used the word as an expression to put down and make fun of people," one inmate replied. "Nowadays people say the word 'nigger' to call yo name or say you have done good. The word 'nigger' is taking over the world; no matter what people do, this word is never gonna leave."

"I think a lot of people use the word 'nigga' because they can't remember their folks' name," said another. "Some people can take the word personally depending on who it's said by. But a young person doesn't usually take it personal if it's said by another young person." Another answered, "When it comes to the 'N' word, it makes me laugh just to see everybody using it, and most not even in the right term. They use it like it's a positive word like 'What's up, my N?' The word means ignorance. ... To me you sound like a slave owner when you be like, 'That my nigga.' "

And finally, as words to the wise: "To some Blacks 'nigga' means friend. And when other races hear us calling each other niggas, they think it's cool for them to use the word, but it ain't." And: "If you are a black person you can use these words, but if you are a different color and you use these words you will get yo ass beat."

I would be more impressed with the "nigga-not-nigger" argument, I think, if this was a generation of youth that had proven its worth in school, but was making a stand against standardized spellings on principle. Something like the late trumpeter Miles Davis or saxaphonist John Coltrane, having learned how to play all of the notes right in a classical fashion, turning around and playing some of them wrong in order to get the desired effect. Some of these young folk are doing that, I believe, and I respect them for that. But when I see them writing out things like "skanless" for "scandalous," I'm afraid that some of them just plain can't spell.

Gradually the N-word began to equate with ridicule in the English language. Ayto's Dictionary of Word Origins defines the word "denigrate" by stating that "to denigrate people is literally to 'blacken' them. ... Denigrate originally meant 'physically turn something black' as well as the metaphorical 'defame, belittle.' "

Such teachings were pounded into the minds of the captives themselves, so that many began to believe their own inferiority and used "nigger" as a derogatory sign. So that Mississippi bluesman Sam Chatman could typically sing:

"SONG"
"Say God made us all, he made some at night
That's why he didn't take time to make us all white
Let me tell you one thing that a Stumptown nigger will do
He'll pull up young cotton and he'll kill baby chickens, too
I'm bound to change my name, I have to paint my face
So I won't be kin to that Ethiopian race"

I hope you people have read this little piece, because it is real talk. Even tho i use the word sometime's, I offten caught my self saying " I should not be saying nigga like this" but i grew up saying it, so it's natural. but what i relized is that i real didnt know my self. I found my self and i found out some of the truth about my African culture but there is much more to learn. From the pen to the street's to college to now i am stii learning...

raymond out...

[sexy365]

I HOPE YOU CAN GO TO A NIGGA CALLIN AA MEETING.

[Amsterdam]

NO MORE COSMETIC SURGERY I don't like 2 be called African american aswell. I have nothing in common with africans other then the color of my skin. I've never been thier and have no desire 2 go, I will say this aswell...I'm no ones Negro..honestly I don't care what u call me. With me it's all about intent. Honestly I'm just a nigga in a America...lol...an American nigga...with roots stemin from niggas from all around the world. Stanley Crouch iz a buster but he's right. I'm proud of the american nigga and all our accoplishments. I'm tired of looking 2 Africa 4 a sense of pride when American niggaz did so much ova here. Let's big up our American Brothaz and stop lookin at our negative image thats poisioned our mind so much that we gotta look 2 another continent 4 some self worth. It's not neccesary. Infact it underminds all the accomplisments we did in America and cripplels our self estime. Africa iz cool but we help build America...it's time we start owning it. I hear and understand what ur saying. I just think we spend 2 much tyme on cosmetics and not enuff tyme with the truth. The term Negro is what we are and we formed our own identity. It's when we let our shame and insecurity cloud our heads and have us looking 2 a place that neva sent as much as a raft 4 us. Az american Negros...we accomplished alot and invented numerous things that we use today in everyday livin. This what needs 2 be taught. Not Africa and thier betraying wayz, i think that does more harm then good and adds 2 the distrust amongst us. After all..it was our own Kings and tribes men that sold us out. The bottom line iz we became niggas when we got off that boat, and us niggas did and ova came alot. Take pride in being a Negro....thiers nothing like it and neva will be. We r inventors,creators, builder, speakers, scientist and humanitarinas. Remember...Makin something out of nothing iz God work, and 2 make it in this life takes hard work

[sexy365]

The word should not be used at all, I use to use that word against my own people but i've met someone who helped me see that certain things I am use to doing i should stop doing, and I haven't used that word in a while.

['X']

^^^^Good lookin out "sexy365", It is my duty to teach and try to show my people the truth and why this it is a terrible word to use. Hit me back so we can build on more.


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[sexy365]

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