Fat Joe says nigga in his song!?!?

[wizdom]

personally i cant stand latinos in general...i dont hate..but they just a taccy people in my mind...

as for Joe...dont like his chunky ass either...Pun was hot but what get me is with ricans..they quicc to talk abotu how they from the hood....but if it cam down to it...theyd ride with a white dude before standin up for ANY black man....just because they wanna get ahead...i only envy they strong sense of family...thats it...

the only people who buy joe shyt is ricans...i dont see how he real hood or just plain REAL in general...thoughts?

*I don't know man, I've run across cool ricans, and my girlfriend's a dominican, and my pops (not my stepdad) was a black cuban (my mother is african-american). With this said, I have ran across some very racist ricans, especially those that live in the midwestern states. In those areas, many of those ricans don't want any association with black folks whatsoever. In the mid 90's on down, they would strictly try to associate with white folks, even when it comes to identity issues; but now, many are going under that cut from whole cloth, politically motivated term (latino or hispanic), finding their comfort and identity there...

Yea, i know some rican that B on that "Fuck Niggers" shit, and isnt that why in Riker's Island the Bloods were formed. because the Latin Kings were pickin on the black people. so i dont know.

[Sh3LLz]

i feel you on that...still...it seem to me like the making money off our culture before they own...and you know they think they better than EVERYBODY...they a conceited people to me

[wizdom]

i feel you on that...still...it seem to me like the making money off our culture before they own...and you know they think they better than EVERYBODY...they a conceited people to me

Yea, i know some ricans and i treat em like they my nigga. But some of em is some conceited ass niggas. and i dont think ricans is all black. i konsider the ones with nappy hair and dark skinned ones Black. others to me, they're puerto rican. im sayin some of em got straight hair and light skin. But im not knockin no rican, i know light skinned ricans who is thorough as hell, and i respekt their gangsta. But i also know thorough dominicans, panamanian, peruvians, filipinos, cambodians, cubans, and so on, but if they dont have dark skin and nappy hair like our ancestors then they aint black and i dont think they karry the stripes like we do.

[D.B.I.H.GG]

Ya'll heard bout that white rapper from philly , i think he's named shortyo or somthin' like that. He called beanie sigel a ni**a in a diss track. Now if dude is walkin along the streets he gotta watch his back. *lol*

[rummy]

Nigga no. Nigger yes

[MiChuhSuh]

some of you talkking about "race" and what a "Puerto Rican is" are really ignorant...

1 RACE DOES NOT MEAN EVERYONE IN THAT RACE IS THE SAME

Do you think every boricuan has black blood? or white blood? or native blood?

Or the same mix of each?

I know some Mexicans that are all white, as in you can trace them from Spain and prove there's not native in them, and I think it's like that for a lot of latinos. And vice versa, there are some without any white. Or some with all black and some with no black.

People forget individuals are all different

They did a study of "white" blood in the U.S.

Almost all "white" Americans had around 1/32 ratio of native blood in them. Especially the ones who could "trace themselves from the Mayflower" and stuff - in general the longer they were here, the more mixed blood they had.

Which is why if you want to claim Native-ness and benefits from the tribe or the U.S. or anything, you need to take a blood test and pass a certain percentage of Indian bloods

^That's available to anyone, including Mexicans and "hispanics" so if you think you have enough Indian blood in you - hey free money!

[perongregory]

No one has time to get down to specifics. So they just say puerto ricans, with a certain kind of puerto rican implied.

[MiChuhSuh]

No one has time to get down to specifics. So they just say puerto ricans, with a certain kind of puerto rican implied.

Okay, fat joe is "white" puerto rican

[perongregory]

fat joe doesn't look white, he looks like a mestizo.

[se11]

Nigga no. Nigger yes

why would you bring up such an old and useless topic to say something that means nothing to the thread? honestly, are retarded. bumping a year old thread to say "nigga no. nigger yes"

[Rollin_inmy_SixFo]

Fat Joe is just light skinned but he definitely has black in him.

[blackmanofhonor]

yea,Fat Joe most def has black blood,you can see it in his lips and facial structure.If one didnt know,they would assume he was just a light skinned black man.

[MiChuhSuh]

yea,Fat Joe most def has black blood,you can see it in his lips and facial structure.If one didnt know,they would assume he was just a light skinned black man.

LOL @ his lips and facial structure

he's FAT joe, you think he's gonna have skinny lips?

First whoe me a picutre of him at a healthy body fat zone, then we see LOL

[ManifestTruth]

"personally i cant stand latinos in general...i dont hate..but they just a taccy people in my mind...

as for Joe...dont like his chunky ass either...Pun was hot but what get me is with ricans..they quicc to talk abotu how they from the hood....but if it cam down to it...theyd ride with a white dude before standin up for ANY black man....just because they wanna get ahead...i only envy they strong sense of family...thats it...

the only people who buy joe shyt is ricans...i dont see how he real hood or just plain REAL in general...thoughts?"

Can't remember who spit this but this is real ignorant. First, Fat Joe, Joe
Cartegena is from the Bx, South Bronx. He was a wild ass kid back in the
day and had some cats shook. From Castle Hill all the way to Bronx River.
He himself has stated in many an interview that he viewed himself as a Spanish speaking black.

The only people who by joe shyt is Ricans?? C'mon, money, you know this
is falsehood. That is East Coast bias talking right there. Before the West, South, and Midwest came up in the rap game, Tri-State cats stayed shitting on them. I would know, I'm a tri-state cat myself.. Even with PR,
Asian(my man Jinn), and White rappers, they have difficulty getting love
from the Northeast massive, 'specially cats from NY/NJ. Still on that, "top
of the food chain" nonsense.. Talent is everywhere, my beloved, and in
everyone.

Some cat, I'm sure he aint East Coast and dont know shit about Boricuas,
says there arent any Black PR's. Go to the Island(Puerto Rico), and inquire
about a town named Luisa. Everybody in that bitch is black.

Finally, Joe is 1/2 PR and 1/2 Cuban..

[DC]

Fat Joe is a white PR, have you seen the amount of body hair he has, I have never seen a extremely hairy black man, people of European descent are hairy like that. Just because some PR have black blood does not mean all PR are black, the majority of PR are white.

[MiChuhSuh]

Fat Joe is a white PR, have you seen the amount of body hair he has, I have never seen a extremely hairy black man, people of European descent are hairy like that. Just because some PR have black blood does not mean all PR are black, the majority of PR are white.

Seriously, just like Cubans and others... alot of what we see is white PR.

blackman got it wrong.... if I saw him.. I wouldn't see him in any way as black.....

I would see him as a man who seriously needs medical attention and excercise....

and not only did the comment about "his lips and face" being "black" stereotype (big lips, etc) but he is FAT joe, how are his lips supposed to be skinny when his body fat is 50% and even his fingers show stretch marks?

[se11]

how does anyone here know what kind of blood fat joe has in him? this is insane.

[MiChuhSuh]

Manifest, Jinn is coming back man! He just did a show in Beijing, first show in China, and he's back making new tracks again!

[MiChuhSuh]

how does anyone here know what kind of blood fat joe has in him? this is insane.

................................

o crap.............

I hate it when not only does the truch prove my opponents wrong, it proves all of us wrong......

LOL you're right... there's no way of knowing without some blood test, and even then it's sketchy...

But by looks, I see no black in him.

But ya, you're right se11... dang!

[se11]

does it even MATTER? if somebody 400 years ago in his family line was black or dark indian, who cares? he's claiming boricua now.

[ManifestTruth]

Any of you cats ever met Fat Joe in person?? Seen him up close? He doesnt look black, looks like a Latino with some African lineage to go along with the Spanish and indigenous(although the Tainos were practically wiped out).

Some one said the majority of Puerto Ricans are white. Actually, the
majority of Puerto Ricans are, bust it, Puerto Rican!! Not sure how many
of you live or have lived amongst Puerto Ricans, but they are definitely
more brown(especially on the Island) than anything else. Anyways, who
cares if they are "black" or "white". I mean, who is really either??!! Shit
is nonsense man.

Fat Joe=fat nose, fat lips, fat fingers.. Looks like fat is the operative word
here..lol

Jinn in the house! Cat can straight spit. Heard him on 97.1(NYC station) a few years back and he freestyled crazy. Not sure how his thing with DoubleR(Rough Riders) went but I think the timing was bad with all the internal issues the label had. Anyways, good to hear...

[UmanH-ay]

i can see black features in Joe,

but yeah LOL at End violence, the duke is in need of Medical attention and some exercise! lol

[Y.G.]

I DON'T TRIP OFF PR'S, DR'S, AND POLYNESIANS SAYIN NIGGA BECAUSE THE BICK IT TOUGH WITH NIGGAZ.

[DC]

I suppose it not cool to be white, so he must have black or Indian in him.
Some people here have some big issues, and Ill say this once more, most PR's are white.......................

[blackmanofhonor]

I suppose it not cool to be white, so he must have black or Indian in him.
Some people here have some big issues, and Ill say this once more, most PR's are white.......................

Most Puerto Ricans are not white,they are a mixture of Taino,spanish and african blood.

[kaotik_hcp]

Fat Joe is just light skinned but he aint white.

that nigga is Puerto Rican

huh? what?

[se11]

I suppose it not cool to be white, so he must have black or Indian in him.
Some people here have some big issues, and Ill say this once more, most PR's are white.......................

Most Puerto Ricans are not white,they are a mixture of Taino,spanish and african blood.

WHO CARES!?!? fat joe said nigga, he waves a puerto rican flag, what are any of you going to do about it?! does it even make a difference if his indian ancestor banged a white or black person? seriously.

[DC]

Sorry but whites are majority in PR.

From Wikipedia..

In the 2000 U.S. Census Puerto Ricans were asked to identify which racial category with which they personally identify. 95.8% answered with only one choice. The breakdown is as follows: 80.5% described themselves as "white"; 8% described themselves as "Black"; and only 0.4% described themselves as "Native American[quote]

[Cold Bear]

To DC that is only because of the deep roots of self hatred implanted by colonialism and imperialism, to where for example a neighbor of my girlfriend who I drink with, who is dark skinned, curly haired, that probably by white society can only be seen as 'black', from the Dominican Republic will say that he hates black folks.

Trujillo in the Dominican Republic was a dictator who really set off a lot of that sentiment. To this day many males are named after him, Rafael. The situation is that you have the Dominican Republic sharing an island with Haiti. And what Trujillo did was basically say all the African descended people on that [Haiti] side are dirty and horrible. It's institutionalized racism that's backbone is in the economy, in society, and in education. It's not even non-PC to talk like that about the haitians. Meanwhile Haiti is the only country in the Caribbean who successfully led a revolution against imperialist powers.

Let me share for you a story of my homegirl who is Haitian but identifies as Black who walked in to a Dominican hair salon in Washington Heights. They look at her hair with disgust. They don't want to help her. Meanwhile they are asking her "You want to get rid of this for good [saying they want to straighten her hair permanently], right?" She says no and they can't believe it. Meanwhile almost all of them can pass for her cousins. Culturally they may be different, but they look the same as her.

But anyways what I'm saying is they identify as white because sick as it is they have been taught that is the best thing to be on the planet earth. And also, was latino a choice on that list you only listed White, Black, and Native American? Maybe they would have identified as that.

[Cold Bear]

That story is centered on the Dominican Republic but it is also applicable in Puerto Rico, and in Cuba. Although Cuba tried to blow up a new way of thinking about race and identity, saying 'we are all CUBAN', the truth is color politics are very big there as well.

[Rollin_inmy_SixFo]

Sorry but whites are majority in PR.

From Wikipedia..

In the 2000 U.S. Census Puerto Ricans were asked to identify which racial category with which they personally identify. 95.8% answered with only one choice. The breakdown is as follows: 80.5% described themselves as "white"; 8% described themselves as "Black"; and only 0.4% described themselves as "Native American

I think they identify as white because in many Latin American countries, for whatever reasons, that brings "higher" status. Come on now, any person of color would know how that goes down. Or maybe some just don't know that they are mixed?

[Tre]

I agree with Rollin_inmy_SixFo...

and to DC...

Taino DNA testing in Puerto Rico revealed that 61% of Puerto Ricans possess the exact same DNA as Taino Indians who inhabited Puerto Rico before the arrival of Columbus. In addition, 27% had the DNA of Africans, while those that shared the DNA of white Europeans was only 12%.

Sorry DC but Whites are not the majority in PR.