Post-Traumatic Slave Syndrome

[Sentenza]

any problems in black peoples lives is their own fault now. slavery, oppression, its all over. if you want a job you'll get one. but black people dont care as much as other people. they drop out of school more, gang bang more, sell drugs more, they're more worried about what';s going on in the streets than in their lives and they just dont care. they're in jail because they rob more, kill more, and do crime more. this is black people in general. i dont know what you or the next black guy does with his life, but in general, that's black people and that's why the get a bad reputation.

This is a late effect of slavery. People have been left without education and a proper position in society etc. The list goes on. But black people can do nothing but help themselves out of that situation and the chances are not as bad as they used to be.

[Sentenza]

but how come none of ya'll get so worked up after Blackmanof"no"honour refers to whites as Devils and evil scum? I feel they are as bad as droppin the N bomb

I did say that it is totally stupid to say nigger.

[Sentenza]

but how come none of ya'll get so worked up after Blackmanof"no"honour refers to whites as Devils and evil scum? I feel they are as bad as droppin the N bomb

Be cause thats the way most whites act! 84% dont even think the majority of us being unemployed as a problem.

See above.

[Old Shatterhand]

Its not like whites will ever say ''you know what,we have an unfair society here,lets try to fix it''.Come at them with nothing but peace and they will still hate you as long as equality is what you are preaching.You saw what they did to MLK jr.SO honestly,fu-- white people.Thats how i feel.I hate you motherfuckers.

"It was at a church service in Munich that I saw him, a former S.S. man who had stood guard at the shower room door in the processing center at Ravensbruck. He was the first of our actual jailers that I had seen since I was "accidentally" released just as my sister Betsie's said I would be before her death in the camp. And suddenly it was all there – the roomful of mocking men, the heaps of clothing, Betsie's pain-blanched face.

He came up to me as the church was emptying, beaming and bowing. “How grateful I am for your message of forgiveness, Fraulein.” He said. “To think that, as you say, He has washed my sins away!” His hand was thrust out to shake mine. And I, who had preached so often to the people in Bloemendaal the need to forgive, kept my hand at my side.

Even as the angry, vengeful thoughts boiled through me, I saw the sin of them. Jesus Christ had died for this man; was I going to ask for more? Lord Jesus, I prayed, forgive me and help me to forgive him. I tried to smile, I struggled to raise my hand but I could not. I felt nothing, not the slightest spark of warmth or charity. And so again I breathed a silent prayer. Jesus, I prayed, I cannot forgive him. Give me Your forgiveness.

As I took his hand the most incredible thing happened. From my shoulder along my arm and through my hand a current seemed to pass from me to him, while into my heart sprang a love for this stranger that almost overwhelmed me. And so I discovered that it is not on our forgiveness any more than on our goodness that the world's healing hinges, but on His. When He tells us to love our enemies, He gives, along with the command, the love itself. If people can be taught to hate, they can be taught to love!" -Corrie Ten Boom (Ravensbruck survivor).

[se11]

any problems in black peoples lives is their own fault now. slavery, oppression, its all over. if you want a job you'll get one. but black people dont care as much as other people. they drop out of school more, gang bang more, sell drugs more, they're more worried about what';s going on in the streets than in their lives and they just dont care. they're in jail because they rob more, kill more, and do crime more. this is black people in general. i dont know what you or the next black guy does with his life, but in general, that's black people and that's why the get a bad reputation.

This is a late effect of slavery. People have been left without education and a proper position in society etc. The list goes on. But black people can do nothing but help themselves out of that situation and the chances are not as bad as they used to be.

how about going to school?

[se11]

ok....so what if you dont gang bang or sell crack at 13?what if you go to school and stay away from drugs.And this white guy does sell crack.Employers on average would rather hire that white guy,even overlooking his known drug record.Is that oppression in your eyes?

not true. your brainwashed into thinking this.

maybe black neighborhoods wouldnt be so crime infested if the USA didnt block us from legal employment,and rob us generation after generation so we dont have shit to pass down to our ancestors?

this is the basic cycle of life. go to grammar school, graduate. go to high school, maybe find a part time job somewhere, graduate. go to another school after college, continuing that job, earn a degree.

if you do that you shouldn't get caught up in drugs or gangs or violence. but black people dont want to do that, they want fast easy money.

[blackmanofhonor]

not true. your brainwashed into thinking this.

yes it is true.Every social indicator in society says so,and any logical person would find it hard NOT to believe given americas history.

this is the basic cycle of life. go to grammar school, graduate. go to high school, maybe find a part time job somewhere, graduate. go to another school after college, continuing that job, earn a degree.

if you do that you shouldn't get caught up in drugs or gangs or violence. but black people dont want to do that, they want fast easy money.

[/quote]

white people want to pretend that we want ''easy money'' and dont want to work.But the reality is they control the economy and the vast majority of those with hiring and firing power are white,and they discriminate against us.We are the first fired and the last hired.

[blackmanofhonor]

dude,you honestly believe that we dont want legitimate jobs where we could provide for ourselves and our families?You honestly think that we would rather sell drugs,and stay on the run from the law? or either just stay broke and in poverty?

[blackmanofhonor]

whites want to completely ignore racism,and act like we in fact like the negative shit we suffer because of thier racism.LOL,man,you all are some dirty,evil motherfuckers,I swear to God.

[Sentenza]

any problems in black peoples lives is their own fault now. slavery, oppression, its all over. if you want a job you'll get one. but black people dont care as much as other people. they drop out of school more, gang bang more, sell drugs more, they're more worried about what';s going on in the streets than in their lives and they just dont care. they're in jail because they rob more, kill more, and do crime more. this is black people in general. i dont know what you or the next black guy does with his life, but in general, that's black people and that's why the get a bad reputation.

This is a late effect of slavery. People have been left without education and a proper position in society etc. The list goes on. But black people can do nothing but help themselves out of that situation and the chances are not as bad as they used to be.

how about going to school?

That would be a good start.

[Old Shatterhand]

You have legitimate grievances blackmanofhonor as you say. I don't think se11 gets that part. He seems to think its all your fault. Honestly, if I controlled the economy, and I wish I did like you say I do, I would certainly change things for the better. But alas, I was born a poor child in a cheap apartment in LA County with cardboard boxes as furniture for the first four years of my life. It has been a long climb for the little I have and it's still an everyday battle no doubt. I feel you but I just deal with it differently. Probably because instead of hate and revenge in my heart I turned to the Creator God of the Bible and found a measure of love and peace. I'll always long for justice even as you do but mine is tempered by the other.

[Sentenza]

they want fast easy money.

BTW, who does not want fast, easy money? you forgot "tons of".

[MiChuhSuh]

dishonor, let me ask you something, when's the last time a facotry boss pointed a gun to your head and forced you to assemble weapons in 20 hour shifts? Or the last time the government infiltrated your house to search for religious books, specifically a new shipment of Bibles smuggled from a bordering country disguised as a children's book about butterflies? And taken the owners of such books to forced labor concentration camps?

That is the slavery of North Korea.

As for America since you keep insisting it:
When's the last time Master Jenkins hogtied you and beat you with a snake-bite whip (if you're into freaky @ss BDSM that doesn't count). When's the last time you picked cotten either under direct slavery or under "sharecropping?" Whens the last time you had to rush to a pigstein for gruel you share with 30 other human beings?

O wait let me guess.. you're gonna say that's the past version slavery right? EXACTLY

[MiChuhSuh]

You have legitimate grievances blackmanofhonor as you say. I don't think se11 gets that part. He seems to think its all your fault. Honestly, if I controlled the economy, and I wish I did like you say I do, I would certainly change things for the better. But alas, I was born a poor child in a cheap apartment in LA County with cardboard boxes as furniture for the first four years of my life. It has been a long climb for the little I have and it's still an everyday battle no doubt. I feel you but I just deal with it differently. Probably because instead of hate and revenge in my heart I turned to the Creator God of the Bible and found a measure of love and peace. I'll always long for justice even as you do but mine is tempered by the other.

good reply

[blackmanofhonor]

dishonor, let me ask you something, when's the last time a facotry boss pointed a gun to your head and forced you to assemble weapons in 20 hour shifts? Or the last time the government infiltrated your house to search for religious books, specifically a new shipment of Bibles smuggled from a bordering country disguised as a children's book about butterflies? And taken the owners of such books to forced labor concentration camps?

That is the slavery of North Korea.

As for America since you keep insisting it:
When's the last time Master Jenkins hogtied you and beat you with a snake-bite whip (if you're into freaky @ss BDSM that doesn't count). When's the last time you picked cotten either under direct slavery or under "sharecropping?" Whens the last time you had to rush to a pigstein for gruel you share with 30 other human beings?

O wait let me guess.. you're gonna say that's the past version slavery right? EXACTLY

Once again,bringing up other countries and situations.I hate when whites do that,its like ''well your not as worse off as such and such in my opinion, so you should be thankful.I dont give a shit if most of you are flat out jobless,be thankful you live in the USA''.


Im talking about whats going on HERE IN THE USA.

[blackmanofhonor]

dishonor, let me ask you something, when's the last time a facotry boss pointed a gun to your head and forced you to assemble weapons in 20 hour shifts? Or the last time the government infiltrated your house to search for religious books, specifically a new shipment of Bibles smuggled from a bordering country disguised as a children's book about butterflies? And taken the owners of such books to forced labor concentration camps?

That is the slavery of North Korea.

As for America since you keep insisting it:
When's the last time Master Jenkins hogtied you and beat you with a snake-bite whip (if you're into freaky @ss BDSM that doesn't count). When's the last time you picked cotten either under direct slavery or under "sharecropping?" Whens the last time you had to rush to a pigstein for gruel you share with 30 other human beings?

O wait let me guess.. you're gonna say that's the past version slavery right? EXACTLY

yes all that is fucked up.Whats happening in North Korea is messed up.What happened to my ancestors here in the USA was messed up.But does that excuse the situation now that we face with RAMPANT DISCRIMINATION?


i mean whats the point of bringing up other situations and places?did I ever say that black americans are the only ones suffering from injustice?

[Cold Bear]

I just don't understand how you could just choose to ignore all those statistics. Shit if you choose to not see it in real life or you never experienced racism against yourself or your homies and felt that sting, well then at least respect the facts, the numbers...

[blackmanofhonor]

You have legitimate grievances blackmanofhonor as you say. I don't think se11 gets that part. He seems to think its all your fault. Honestly, if I controlled the economy, and I wish I did like you say I do, I would certainly change things for the better. But alas, I was born a poor child in a cheap apartment in LA County with cardboard boxes as furniture for the first four years of my life. It has been a long climb for the little I have and it's still an everyday battle no doubt. I feel you but I just deal with it differently. Probably because instead of hate and revenge in my heart I turned to the Creator God of the Bible and found a measure of love and peace. I'll always long for justice even as you do but mine is tempered by the other.

well since we were enslaved by christians,and the bible itself condones slavery,dont hold your breath waiting on me to convert to your ''lord''.We arent even on his radar.Apparently Jesus forgot all about us.

[se11]

dude,you honestly believe that we dont want legitimate jobs where we could provide for ourselves and our families?You honestly think that we would rather sell drugs,and stay on the run from the law? or either just stay broke and in poverty?

i told you already, if you really want a legit job you will work to get it. you wont let any racism or oppression get in your way.

[se11]

RAMPANT DISCRIMINATION?

i would love to count how many times you have said this on this site. it has to be close to 150.

[blackmanofhonor]

dude,you honestly believe that we dont want legitimate jobs where we could provide for ourselves and our families?You honestly think that we would rather sell drugs,and stay on the run from the law? or either just stay broke and in poverty?

i told you already, if you really want a legit job you will work to get it. you wont let any racism or oppression get in your way.

so what are you going to do,force someone to hire you?I mean its pretty hard to get a job when you live in a society that considers you a criminal and a bad guy just because your skin is a certain color.

[se11]

every single place isn't going to turn you down for being black. if one place turns you down, you look somewhere else. it's not impossible to find a fucking job you lazy piece of shit.

[MiChuhSuh]

dishonor, let me ask you something, when's the last time a facotry boss pointed a gun to your head and forced you to assemble weapons in 20 hour shifts? Or the last time the government infiltrated your house to search for religious books, specifically a new shipment of Bibles smuggled from a bordering country disguised as a children's book about butterflies? And taken the owners of such books to forced labor concentration camps?

That is the slavery of North Korea.

As for America since you keep insisting it:
When's the last time Master Jenkins hogtied you and beat you with a snake-bite whip (if you're into freaky @ss BDSM that doesn't count). When's the last time you picked cotten either under direct slavery or under "sharecropping?" Whens the last time you had to rush to a pigstein for gruel you share with 30 other human beings?

O wait let me guess.. you're gonna say that's the past version slavery right? EXACTLY

Once again,bringing up other countries and situations.I hate when whites do that,its like ''well your not as worse off as such and such in my opinion, so you should be thankful.I dont give a shit if most of you are flat out jobless,be thankful you live in the USA''.


Im talking about whats going on HERE IN THE USA.

I made it easier to read the part YOU CHOSE TO IGNORE

P.S. I'M NORTH KOREAN, NOT WHITE FOR THE LAST TIME.

[MiChuhSuh]

You have legitimate grievances blackmanofhonor as you say. I don't think se11 gets that part. He seems to think its all your fault. Honestly, if I controlled the economy, and I wish I did like you say I do, I would certainly change things for the better. But alas, I was born a poor child in a cheap apartment in LA County with cardboard boxes as furniture for the first four years of my life. It has been a long climb for the little I have and it's still an everyday battle no doubt. I feel you but I just deal with it differently. Probably because instead of hate and revenge in my heart I turned to the Creator God of the Bible and found a measure of love and peace. I'll always long for justice even as you do but mine is tempered by the other.

well since we were enslaved by christians,and the bible itself condones slavery,dont hold your breath waiting on me to convert to your ''lord''.We arent even on his radar.Apparently Jesus forgot all about us.

Muslims did first, they sold blacks to the Europeans with very expensive middle men. So they decided to use ships to get around the Muslim traders and getting into the business themselves..

[blackmanofhonor]

dishonor, let me ask you something, when's the last time a facotry boss pointed a gun to your head and forced you to assemble weapons in 20 hour shifts? Or the last time the government infiltrated your house to search for religious books, specifically a new shipment of Bibles smuggled from a bordering country disguised as a children's book about butterflies? And taken the owners of such books to forced labor concentration camps?

That is the slavery of North Korea.

As for America since you keep insisting it:
When's the last time Master Jenkins hogtied you and beat you with a snake-bite whip (if you're into freaky @ss BDSM that doesn't count). When's the last time you picked cotten either under direct slavery or under "sharecropping?" Whens the last time you had to rush to a pigstein for gruel you share with 30 other human beings?

O wait let me guess.. you're gonna say that's the past version slavery right? EXACTLY

Once again,bringing up other countries and situations.I hate when whites do that,its like ''well your not as worse off as such and such in my opinion, so you should be thankful.I dont give a shit if most of you are flat out jobless,be thankful you live in the USA''.


Im talking about whats going on HERE IN THE USA.

I made it easier to read the part YOU CHOSE TO IGNORE

P.S. I'M NORTH KOREAN, NOT WHITE FOR THE LAST TIME.

What do you want me to say about the bolded part?I never said that blacks were currently slaves.So? I mean Im trying to see what you want me to say about it?

[se11]

he asked you

Whens the last time you had to rush to a pigstein for gruel you share with 30 other human beings?

[blackmanofhonor]

he asked you

Whens the last time you had to rush to a pigstein for gruel you share with 30 other human beings?

I have never had to share gruel with 30 other human beings.When did I say that I did?what does this have to do with anything?

[se11]

i dont know he asked you, thats what he wants to know, you jus twouldnt answer him.

[MiChuhSuh]

he asked you

Whens the last time you had to rush to a pigstein for gruel you share with 30 other human beings?

I have never had to share gruel with 30 other human beings.When did I say that I did?what does this have to do with anything?

Didn't you say blacks were in "vrtual enslavement"? I'll find the post later though, I have to get back to stuff.

[blackmanofhonor]

he asked you

Whens the last time you had to rush to a pigstein for gruel you share with 30 other human beings?

I have never had to share gruel with 30 other human beings.When did I say that I did?what does this have to do with anything?

Didn't you say blacks were in "vrtual enslavement"? I'll find the post later though, I have to get back to stuff.

No i didnt.

[blackmanofhonor]

i dont know he asked you, thats what he wants to know, you jus twouldnt answer him.

Because the questions were irrelevant,and stupid.

[Old Shatterhand]

You have legitimate grievances blackmanofhonor as you say. I don't think se11 gets that part. He seems to think its all your fault. Honestly, if I controlled the economy, and I wish I did like you say I do, I would certainly change things for the better. But alas, I was born a poor child in a cheap apartment in LA County with cardboard boxes as furniture for the first four years of my life. It has been a long climb for the little I have and it's still an everyday battle no doubt. I feel you but I just deal with it differently. Probably because instead of hate and revenge in my heart I turned to the Creator God of the Bible and found a measure of love and peace. I'll always long for justice even as you do but mine is tempered by the other.

well since we were enslaved by christians,and the bible itself condones slavery,dont hold your breath waiting on me to convert to your ''lord''.We arent even on his radar.Apparently Jesus forgot all about us.

It is true that some men who called themselves "Christians" misused the Bible as justification for what they did.

But far from extolling the virtues of slavery the Bible denounces slavery as sin. The New Testament puts slave traders in the same category as murderers, adulterers, perverts, and liars. Furthermore, slavery in the Old Testament context was sanctioned due to economic realties rather than racial or sexual prejudices. Because bankruptcy laws didn't exist, people would voluntarily sell themselves into slavery. A craftsmen could use his skills in servitude to discharge a debt. Even a thief could make restitution by serving as a slave. Finally, while the Bible as a whole recognizes the reality of slavery it never promotes the practice of slavery. In fact, it was the application of Biblical principles that ultimately led to the overthrow of slavery, both in ancient Israel and in the USA.

Israel's liberation from slavery in Egypt became a model for the liberation of slaves in general. In America, people are finally beginning to wake up to the Biblical truth that all people are created by God with innate equality. It has taken a long time and continues.

"We know that the law is good if one uses it properly, we also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels the ungodly and sinful the unholy and irreligious for those who kill their mothers or fathers for murderers, for adulterers for perverts, for slave traders, and liars and perjurers, and for whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine that conforms to the glorious gospel of the blessed God which he entrusted to me." -1 Timothy 1:8-11.