What Have You Done To Support Reparations?

These concepts are socially constructed and have been given much weight. What are your thoughts?

Re: What Have You Done To Support Reparations?

Postby Common Sense » September 1st, 2004, 2:12 pm

willihen wrote:How in the world does one assess who gets how much?
Even if reparations were made, there is no way to decide who gets what.
Then what about someone who is 1/2 black. someone is 1/4. What if a person is 1/32 black.

I shouldn't worry. It's not gonna happen anyway.


That's a good question. I feel that as long as black people are at each other's throat and not working as a collective.......Reparations is a universe away.
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Re: What Have You Done To Support Reparations?

Postby Anonymous20 » September 9th, 2004, 5:40 pm

I AM COMPLETELY AGAINST REPARATIONS.........NO MAN NEEDS IT.....ITS A COP OUT. STOP CRYING AND MOVE ON. BESIDES HOW MANY OF YOU WERE PHYSICALLY THERE NE WAY? ITS A BIG JOKE.
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Re: What Have You Done To Support Reparations?

Postby Anonymous20 » September 15th, 2004, 11:00 pm

THE OLD LADY FALLING ON PURPOSE IN A SUPERMARKET IN ORDER TO SUE........SHE WAITS FOR 10 YEARS TO GET 10,000 DOLLARS..........


WORK, GET A JOB, SELL DRUGS, HUSTLE, DO WHATEVER YOU GOT TO DO.........................AND STOP CRYINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
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Re: What Have You Done To Support Reparations?

Postby MICK » September 30th, 2004, 7:53 pm

not a damn thing.
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Re: What Have You Done To Support Reparations?

Postby MICK » September 30th, 2004, 8:08 pm

BrownAndProud wrote:I AM COMPLETELY AGAINST REPARATIONS.........NO MAN NEEDS IT.....ITS A COP OUT. STOP CRYING AND MOVE ON. BESIDES HOW MANY OF YOU WERE PHYSICALLY THERE NE WAY? ITS A BIG JOKE.



Thank You.
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Re: What Have You Done To Support Reparations?

Postby Lonewolf » September 30th, 2004, 8:52 pm

I say fock reparations, you can't turn back the clock for generations already passed away and into the history books, reparations is to the living whom suffered or their survivors, not to their future decendants.
How in the fock are you going to be equal on that reparations sh*t with "all" those that were at one time enslaved, disposessed, stripped, an so on, and we are not just speaking about the Black Man, because the Natives, The French Colonials, The Mexicans, The China Men were all cheated by the policies of past U.S. Goverments in its contemporary world of Imperialism.
I'm not supporting by no means what was done to our peoples, but I'm not going to pay 1 cent out of my taxes for the sins of past generations.
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Re: What Have You Done To Support Reparations?

Postby MICK » September 30th, 2004, 9:31 pm

a kid beat me up in 2nd grade. Id like his family to write me a check.

see how stupis that sounds?
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Re: What Have You Done To Support Reparations?

Postby J-DUB » September 30th, 2004, 9:42 pm

HELL YEA KROO, THAT SHIT SOUNDS REAL DUMB
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Re: What Have You Done To Support Reparations?

Postby MICK » September 30th, 2004, 9:44 pm

thank you^^^

there is no differnce.
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Re: What Have You Done To Support Reparations?

Postby Anonymous20 » November 29th, 2004, 8:54 pm

check this out, i just found some stuff about white slavery in America which u never really hear about


http://free.freespeech.org/americanstat ... avery.html


heres a few worth the read

The Forgotten Slaves:
Whites in Servitude in Early America and Industrial Britain
http://www.hoffman-info.com/forgottenslaves.html

“Up to one-half of all the arrivals in the American colonies were White slaves and they were America’s first slaves. These Whites were slaves for life, long before Blacks ever were. This slavery was even hereditary. White children born to White slaves were enslaved too.”

“Whites were auctioned on the block with children sold and separated from their parents and wives sold and separated from their husbands.”




White Slavery, what the Scots already know
http://www.electricscotland.com/history ... lavery.htm

“There were hundreds of thousands of Scots sold into slavery during Colonial America. White slavery to the American Colonies occurred as early as 1630 in Scotland.”




White Slavery — What Really Happened
http://www.youngbnp.com/White%20Slavery.htm

“...according to historian John Van Der Zee: ‘Between one half and two thirds of all Whites who came to the New World between 1609 and the early 19th century were slaves.’

“These White slaves came in the millions from the shores of the British Isles, in the form of deported convicts, political prisoners, and kidnapped children. ‘Transportation’ to the New World or Australia was a common punishment up until the late 1800s, and orphans have been sent to Australia as late as the 1950s.

“In 1618 the Council of London passed a bill legalizing the capture of vagrant children, aged eight or older. These homeless children were to be sent to Virginia, where they would be indentured as slaves for fourteen to sixteen years. After this, the slaves were to be released and given land. Promises like these were common. ‘Indentured servants’, or White slaves, as they should be called, rarely saw their benefits. The term of service was often extended, and many of the boys and girls who were captured died in slavery.”
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Re: What Have You Done To Support Reparations?

Postby ChAoS » November 30th, 2004, 5:12 pm

ummm itz almost 2005.....ain't nobody gettin' money for bein' a slave. Move in get a job QUIT BLAMIN' PROBLEMS ON WHITE FOLKS=P_)
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Re: What Have You Done To Support Reparations?

Postby se11 » November 30th, 2004, 9:23 pm

you people do realize that the white europeans bought black slaves from black african slave traders right? so technically the africans that sold slaves to the whites should be the ones giving you reparations.
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Re: What Have You Done To Support Reparations?

Postby B.M.W-Soldier » November 30th, 2004, 11:47 pm

se11 wrote:you people do realize that the white europeans bought black slaves from black african slave traders right? so technically the africans that sold slaves to the whites should be the ones giving you reparations.
Yea they also got slaves from middle eastern/arabs too so should I be running after bin laden?Everytime this issue is bought with blacks in the picture people bitch and whine about how blacks are lazy and don't wanna work or about how it was such a long time ago and how would the government even be able to tell who to give the money to but.It wasn't a problem to give money to the jews right?it wasn;t a problem to give money to the japanese right?so now why when it's the black people's turn reperations is a joke?blacks have only been truly free or should I see as free as the American government is gonna let them be for 40 some odd years your actually gonna try and tell me you don't know someone that's older then 40?and there's still jim crow laws in the south to this day.The fact of the matter is you can't in-slave someone for 400 years,tell them there free build laws to hold them down then bitch and whine because they had 40 years to better themselves what type of bull-shit is that.
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Re: What Have You Done To Support Reparations?

Postby Lonewolf » December 1st, 2004, 9:39 am

I hear your point BMW, especially when we still have a wide gap between equal opportunity and equal representation, but WHY do I a MEX-AMER whom had no part of the enslavement of the Black People, quite the contrary - Mexico opposed Anglo-Texans to hold slaves and prohibited slavery, that being one of the issues during the war for Tejas independence from Mejico - WHY SHOULD I HAVE TO PAY FOR THE WRONG DONE BY OTHERS - without my consent, and if you're going to have reporations - where does it end, because surely my ancestors would also fall into many sorts of wrongs that were done onto them including dispossesed of their lands under the guise that THE SOUTHWEST BECAME PART OF THE U.S. AFTER A CORRUPT DICTATOR SIGNED ON THE DOTTED LINE TO SAVE HIS OWN SKIN and the new administrating Goverment PUSHED OUT MANY OF MINE OUT OF THEIR RIGHTFUL LAND !

So where does it all end, and who pays for it ?
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Re: What Have You Done To Support Reparations?

Postby Common Sense » December 1st, 2004, 10:16 am

Maybe payments should be made to individuals that can prove that they have been severly affected by the governments wrong doings????

Just a thought?
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Re: What Have You Done To Support Reparations?

Postby Lonewolf » December 1st, 2004, 10:20 am

You mean like the JEWS that were enslaved and worked in the concentration camps of which German companies benefited from ?

So if a company of today became what it is on the profit from the sweat of their former slaves, that company should pay reporations ?
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Re: What Have You Done To Support Reparations?

Postby B.M.W-Soldier » December 1st, 2004, 10:37 am

lonewolf wrote:I hear your point BMW, especially when we still have a wide gap between equal opportunity and equal representation, but WHY do I a MEX-AMER whom had no part of the enslavement of the Black People, quite the contrary - Mexico opposed Anglo-Texans to hold slaves and prohibited slavery, that being one of the issues during the war for Tejas independence from Mejico - WHY SHOULD I HAVE TO PAY FOR THE WRONG DONE BY OTHERS - without my consent, and if you're going to have reporations - where does it end, because surely my ancestors would also fall into many sorts of wrongs that were done onto them including dispossesed of their lands under the guise that THE SOUTHWEST BECAME PART OF THE U.S. AFTER A CORRUPT DICTATOR SIGNED ON THE DOTTED LINE TO SAVE HIS OWN SKIN and the new administrating Goverment PUSHED OUT MANY OF MINE OUT OF THEIR RIGHTFUL LAND !

So where does it all end, and who pays for it ?
I understand you whole heartdly lone wolf my mex-american brother what I'm trying to say is there billions of tax dollars your and mine that go to countless other projects/divisons people etc that me and you have no say in whether it be in the past (countless efforts to kill Castro by the Kennedy administration) or the present with the ousting of saddam or the supposed bounty hunt for bin laden so why can't blacks get their share?in all reality I know blacks aren't going to get reperations because it has been a issue so long and is pretty much a joke in todays government and as you said many others also deserve reperations whether it be our native american brother,mexican brothers,central south american brothers,west indian even indonesian and asian but that will never happen because we are in a government in this day in age which doesn't care about it's people and it's people are to scared to stand up there just happy with the crumbs that there given but i for one want a slice of the fuckin cake to
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Re: What Have You Done To Support Reparations?

Postby Lonewolf » December 1st, 2004, 11:13 am

NEVER SAY NEVER, a constant turn of the wheel of time is on-going every day, what I'm more interested in - is getting funds to our childrens education, to buy computers and materials, to raise the quality of our teachers, and to get Goverment sponsored subject topics out of the classrooms. It is a whole new ball game out there, and we can't just ask for some cheese and drop it at that. You're right, there is tons of greenbacks being sent to ally cronies, and there is the real issue that we should take up that is worthwhile for our beneficiary young ones.
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Re: What Have You Done To Support Reparations?

Postby Common Sense » December 1st, 2004, 11:23 am

lonewolf wrote:You mean like the JEWS that were enslaved and worked in the concentration camps of which German companies benefited from ?

kinda like that

lonewolf wrote:So if a company of today became what it is on the profit from the sweat of their former slaves, that company should pay reporations ?

I'm sure there may still be companies out there operating that exploited slaves or indentured servants for service that were not paid or adequately paid for the time.
This could include latin americans, chinese americans (railroads) and so on. This could be a serious can of worms the government does not want to open.

As far as slaves: Native americans were enslaved to at some point. Flip side, not all blacks were slaves.

So should the descendants of free blacks get the cash too?? I guess all this would have to be worked out somehow.
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Re: What Have You Done To Support Reparations?

Postby MICK » December 1st, 2004, 12:56 pm

B.M.W-Soldier wrote:
se11 wrote:you people do realize that the white europeans bought black slaves from black african slave traders right? so technically the africans that sold slaves to the whites should be the ones giving you reparations.
Yea they also got slaves from middle eastern/arabs too so should I be running after bin laden?Everytime this issue is bought with blacks in the picture people bitch and whine about how blacks are lazy and don't wanna work or about how it was such a long time ago and how would the government even be able to tell who to give the money to but.It wasn't a problem to give money to the jews right?it wasn;t a problem to give money to the japanese right?so now why when it's the black people's turn reperations is a joke?blacks have only been truly free or should I see as free as the American government is gonna let them be for 40 some odd years your actually gonna try and tell me you don't know someone that's older then 40?and there's still jim crow laws in the south to this day.The fact of the matter is you can't in-slave someone for 400 years,tell them there free build laws to hold them down then bitch and whine because they had 40 years to better themselves what type of bull-shit is that.


Because it didnt happen to THEM. It happened to their anscestors.
And as far as Jews and Japaneese go, reperations is complete bullsh*t for ANYONE. Sh*t happens to everyone, and you cant ask for a check everytime somthin sh*tty happens. If u could. I'd be a millionare.
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Re: What Have You Done To Support Reparations?

Postby Lonewolf » December 1st, 2004, 12:59 pm

If I had nickle for every time LOL :wink:
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Re: What Have You Done To Support Reparations?

Postby MICK » December 1st, 2004, 1:01 pm

Im goin on a penny wolf. LOL
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Re: What Have You Done To Support Reparations?

Postby se11 » December 1st, 2004, 2:51 pm

B.M.W-Soldier wrote:
se11 wrote:you people do realize that the white europeans bought black slaves from black african slave traders right? so technically the africans that sold slaves to the whites should be the ones giving you reparations.
Yea they also got slaves from middle eastern/arabs too so should I be running after bin laden?Everytime this issue is bought with blacks in the picture people bitch and whine about how blacks are lazy and don't wanna work or about how it was such a long time ago and how would the government even be able to tell who to give the money to but.It wasn't a problem to give money to the jews right?it wasn;t a problem to give money to the japanese right?so now why when it's the black people's turn reperations is a joke?blacks have only been truly free or should I see as free as the American government is gonna let them be for 40 some odd years your actually gonna try and tell me you don't know someone that's older then 40?and there's still jim crow laws in the south to this day.The fact of the matter is you can't in-slave someone for 400 years,tell them there free build laws to hold them down then bitch and whine because they had 40 years to better themselves what type of bull-shit is that.


why aren't you running after bin laden then? i never said blacks were lazy or anything or that they had 40 years to better themselves. all i am saying is, if you want reparations, shouldn't you be going to the africans and arabs that initally sold slaves?
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Re: What Have You Done To Support Reparations?

Postby Lonewolf » December 1st, 2004, 2:55 pm

i gotta sidetrack the issue a bit to make a point on slavery.

WHO CAN NAME ALL THE PEOPLES/NATIONS/RACES OF THE WORLD THAT HAVE BEEN SUBJECTED OVER THE SPAN OF TIME INTO SLAVERY ?
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Re: What Have You Done To Support Reparations?

Postby Kemosave » December 1st, 2004, 3:48 pm

Panik can. hahaha..
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Re: What Have You Done To Support Reparations?

Postby B.M.W-Soldier » December 1st, 2004, 3:51 pm

se11 wrote:
B.M.W-Soldier wrote:
se11 wrote:you people do realize that the white europeans bought black slaves from black african slave traders right? so technically the africans that sold slaves to the whites should be the ones giving you reparations.
Yea they also got slaves from middle eastern/arabs too so should I be running after bin laden?Everytime this issue is bought with blacks in the picture people bitch and whine about how blacks are lazy and don't wanna work or about how it was such a long time ago and how would the government even be able to tell who to give the money to but.It wasn't a problem to give money to the jews right?it wasn;t a problem to give money to the japanese right?so now why when it's the black people's turn reperations is a joke?blacks have only been truly free or should I see as free as the American government is gonna let them be for 40 some odd years your actually gonna try and tell me you don't know someone that's older then 40?and there's still jim crow laws in the south to this day.The fact of the matter is you can't in-slave someone for 400 years,tell them there free build laws to hold them down then bitch and whine because they had 40 years to better themselves what type of bull-shit is that.


why aren't you running after bin laden then? i never said blacks were lazy or anything or that they had 40 years to better themselves. all i am saying is, if you want reparations, shouldn't you be going to the africans and arabs that initally sold slaves?
Yes of course I do agree that arab nations did play a part but as a major role as you seem to be representing
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Re: What Have You Done To Support Reparations?

Postby Lonewolf » December 4th, 2004, 8:51 pm

Kemosave wrote:Panik can. hahaha..
LOL, you sure do miss him don't you kIMO?
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Re: What Have You Done To Support Reparations?

Postby 100 » December 7th, 2004, 3:13 pm

NOT A DAMN THING!THE UNITED STATES IS NOT GONNA GIVE BLACK AMERICANS(DECENDANTS OF SLAVES IN THE UNITED STATES) MONEY LIKE THEY GIVE NATIVE AMERICANS

HELL 40 ACRES AND A MULE TO BLACK PEOPLE THAT’S A LOT OF LAND WHICH WAS NOT GIVEN TO
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Re: What Have You Done To Support Reparations?

Postby epun » December 8th, 2004, 2:48 pm

se11 wrote:you people do realize that the white europeans bought black slaves from black african slave traders right? so technically the africans that sold slaves to the whites should be the ones giving you reparations.


Reparations, first and foremost, is a US issue, not the issue of the africans who ASSISTED in selling other africans into slavery. You do remember who actually commited the enslaving?

Reparations, in it's truest definiton, will never come in the form of payment to a mass group of black americans and then follow up with a "I'm sorry" to it. Are you kidding? We are, however, experiencing reparations in a small degree in another form, and that's the growing number of black youth graduating from college, the growing number of black millionaires thru sports, entertainment, business and world economics. Mexicans are also experiencing a sort of reparations, becoming the number one minority in the US and fast becoming the group of people with the most spending power in the US. I read the other day that Latinos are the second largest group behind whites that are buying stock on the NYSE......so reparations might not come, but in due time some type of payback will happen, believe that!!
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Re: What Have You Done To Support Reparations?

Postby Kemosave » December 8th, 2004, 2:55 pm

I pay reparations to the tune of about 40% of my income when I'm working.. lol.
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Re: What Have You Done To Support Reparations?

Postby epun » December 8th, 2004, 3:10 pm

Kemosave wrote:I pay reparations to the tune of about 40% of my income when I'm working.. lol.


I just fell off my chair laughin' on that one...same here homie.
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