First, a little about myself and why I find this topic interesting. I was raised a christian and used to believe that since Jesus was a Jew, That the Old Testament or Talmud had great significance to my religion. I love history and have always been interested in biblical figures and the accounts surrounding them. For me it all started with Abraham, leading to the slavery of Isrealitesby the Egyptians, then came Moses who led these people to freedom and bringing them to a new land they called Isreal. Many prophets came and went until Jesus landed on the scene giving us christianity.
Well Ive learned a very different history recently that is really fascinating and may explain some things concerning freemasonry, Zionism, and who Jesus might have really been.
1) Abraham was a Hyskos(semetic) King. The Hyskos Kings ruled Egypt for a time until Egyptians revolted and made them leave.
2)the Hebrews were never slaves in Egypt but co-rulers until thier expulsion.
3) the land of Palastine was an Egyptian provence that the Egyptian rulers gave to the Hebrews if they left Egypt peacfully.
4) the tribe of Dan were the same MAcedonians that conquered Greece.
5) Alexander the great came from the tribe of Dan making him Semetic
6)the Ptolemies like Cleopatra were semetic/greek
7)when cleopatra mated with Ceasar they produced a son 'little ceasar' semetic/greek/roman who stood to inherit rulership of rome
jealousy from Octavian prevented this and the little ceasar had to take flight and hide from Rome because they saught to kill him and prevent him from ruling in his fathers footsteps. This little Ceasar was nicknamed the King of Kings.
9)These Semetic/egyptian/roman/greek royal bloodlines , families of conquerers, leaders of empires would eventually become the ruling families of Europe by right of birth.
10) The Jesus of the Bible was Ceasars son from Cleopatra who started a revolution against the exising Roman empire at the time . He was a king in hiding essentially that had a huge underground support group of family and friends in the semetic/egyptian world. Since he was in hiding from Rome he had to appear poor.
11)The symbolism of the Queen of Englands regalia like the queen bee, and the rod and whip she carries are the same ones that egyptian rulers used, the queen bee was indicative of the queen of the hive. Thus of the royal bloodline.
12) Little Ceasar produced offspring and his offspring and the ruling families of romes offspring, both of noble blood, were the foundation for Europes ruling families right up to the House Of Windsor.
13) That Jesus never started Christianity, being the son of Ceasar on the run he visited Kashmir while in hiding, his philosophy and kingship had influenced the people of Isreal and he was seen as a revolutionary of the people.
14) Eventually Jesus was put to death because of Octavians jealousy.
15)By the time of Constantine that whole area had bec=ome religiously divided so he brought all religions into one Jesus christ would simply mean Hesu the druidic god and Krishna the indian god both godswould represent the values we see in christianity today...peace and love.
So my take on why zionism, freemasonry use egyptian symbolism is to track and represent the continued royal semetic bloodline since Abraham, a Hyskos king of Egypt whose bloodline would intermingle with powerful empires right up to the present.
As you might of guessed Im not a Christian or a Jew just a lover of history who believes that religion was created by rulers to keep its populations in check. Ceasar was a man-god. The holy roman empire was a political and a religious force. The whole King/God plan of ruling was perfected by Egyptians. Interesting eh? By the way im not going to get involved in any religious debates. However Id love to discuss any of this with other like minded people.
A couple of things I see some people have a problem with is the exact time...what was considered BC and AD. As far as I know there is dispute about this and the only way for scholars to date anything around this period is to counter reference with other rulers who lived around the same time period. So basically as far as time is concerned there is only an approximation. Not an exact date that is solid as stone.
As to 'Little Ceasars' bloodline, not only was he Roman thrugh his father Ceasar, but he was also Semetic(Jew) and Greek through his mother Cleopatara. Jewish and Greek because of ALexander the Great who was related to the Ptolemic Kings through blood. Macedonians were partly Semetic through the tribe of Dan...or Macedanians.
What I present here is another way of looking at who Jesus really could have been and I find the similarities striking. Little Ceasar died at the hands of the Romans at an early age too just like Jesus. Little Ceasar was nicknamed 'King of Kings'. What an uproar this caused in the middle east because not only did Octavian murder a Roman man-gods son but he also mudered a queen-gods son as well. Both Cleopatra and Ceasar were proclaimed god rulers. She was the emodyment of ISIS, the virgin mother.
Whatever underground movement this Little CEasar was part of it must have been big. He was in hiding for a while just like the Jesus of the bible was. How did this underground noble live, what was his support group? History is somewhat lacking on this guys background which is incredible in itself.
Could it be that this little known son of 2 rulers that were considered as gods that seems to have no history at all be the one and only Jesus of the bible? Watch this : It is history but also intermingles present day history in it too...this is not a 9-11 video!!!http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... &plindex=0http://www.tribwatch.com/kassite.htm
Since you like Wiki Ill post the page here :http://mk.wikibooks.org/wiki/History_of ... n_Monarchs
Ceasar was deified after his death, this pleased Cleopatra because that meant her son was a son of god.
If anything it bolsters the idea that this Ptolemy Ceasarion was a " King of Kings",a title given to him by Marc Antony . His mother Cleopatra later Became the New Isis and Marc Antony became the new Dionysus. Marc Antony controlled the eastern provinces like Judea which he later gave to Cleopatra . I read everything on this page and what I find interesting is that history is lacking during this Ceasarions reign in Egypt and over its territories like Judea from 36-30 BC. During this time his mother and father were dead and so was Marc Antony. Since he ruled Judea for a short time, what was it like I wonder, how was he recieved?
Another thing is that this Ceasarion lived from 47-30 bc according to this Wiki page. This guy was a Macedonian King of Kings about ready to inherit the Egyptian / macedonian empire. They traded as far away as India and China. He was supposed to be emporer of Rome but Octavian put an end to that.
So far Ive found nothing written about Ceasarions works in the history books of Josephus, but Ill keep trying.
Also Ill look for evidence linking the tribe of dan to the Ptolemic King blood lines.
Jaylemurph I think you need to tone down your insulting demeanor a bit. You insinuate that Im lazy and stupid. I resent that. This is a forum to put out new ideas about things and events which we always took for granted as the gospel. If you have nothing to offer and you dont want to watch any of the video then simply move along.
Im not a scholar and Im sure none of you are either. I think we can all agree that even scholars themselves have disputes.
This topic is about the hebrew bloodline from Abraham through the Hyksos kings of Egypt to the reign of Cleopatra even to the Queen of England to this day. Marc Antonys son and daughter with Cleopatra were brought back to Rome and raised by Marc 1st wife Octavia. So if Cleopatra had hebrew blood in her it was passed through to her children with Marc Antony. This would be a kingly bloodline to say the least.
Its a possibility that Ceasars son with Cleopatra was the Jesus figure of the bible. After all isnt this merely a story of a man that had been embellished with miracles?
Another thing Jaylemurph...you havent proved when Jesus was born either. All you can say is you have a working calender. Even if theres no missing time between transition you still do not know when Jesus was born, what year?
See this is open to speculation....however fascinating it is not nearly as outlandish as believing the stories in the New Testament. At least I have some working history to go on!
Also to quote Wiki about the tribe of Dan:
" Some believe the Tribe of Dan later became the Macedonians, a people who later assimilated with their neighbors the Greeks. They named the river they settled on the "Dan"ube, similarly the name Macedonian can be linked by translation to the tribe which was lost."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribe_of_Dan
Another quote :
" The most famous ancient Jewish historian Josef Flavij, who lived in I century after Christ has emphasized the Macedonian ethnic origin of the Ptolemaists.
The kings from the Ptolemaic dynasty are named "Macedonians" (Flavius Against Apion ... II,5).http://my.opera.com/ancientmacedonia/bl ... ml/1562599
So here I tie together how the Jews/ Hebrews through the tribe of Dan become the Macedonians and Ptolemic kings. Hope these links worked for you Jaylemurph.
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