What is the most racist country in the world??

These concepts are socially constructed and have been given much weight. What are your thoughts?

Postby punamusta » March 22nd, 2007, 3:58 pm

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Suomi has a good hockey team, Kurri use to play for them did he not?


Yea, our team is pretty good. Especially as we are a very small nation. I'm not that much into hockey, but I do watch Olympic games and World Champioships. And yes, Jari Kurri definetly has played for Finland. Nowadays he's the GM of our team. One of the legends of hockey.


Can't believe I missed this post, perhaps because of the racist undertones. Anyways, I know Kurri played for Finland but I remember seeing him in a Suomi jersey, whether or not thats the national team I don't know but I do remember a blue Suomi jersey specfically, perhaps with a lion on it. I'm a huge Kurri fan dating back to the early 80's Oiler Dynasty. :)


Hahah, now I understand why you had to ask if Kurri has played for Suomi. Suomi means Finland in our own language ;)

And our crest (if that is the right word) has a golden lion with a sword on its hand, so you remember right - Kurri has played in a blue Suomi jersey with a lion on it.
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Postby Odog » March 23rd, 2007, 8:27 am

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Odog wrote:1 of they racist encounter that i had with a German.In Holland and Belgium you have like these familyparks.Where you go on vacation with the whole family.Germans also visit these parks.So i was on this waterbicycle in the lake of the park,with two of my nephews and we came across this restaurant who was at the lake.And a German cunt said:"Look some monkeys in the water",and started laughing.My nephew heard him and started screaming at him.That made the German even laugh harder.He grabbed an ashtray and throwed it at us,grabbed his camera and started filming us for our response.While saying look some monkeys.Now my nephew went totally berserk,but his little brother got scared so we just went away.We were only like 10 or something.This guy was like something in his late 30's 40's.And in the 80's and 90's German skinheads were always in the news,like big skinheads riots and German skinheads wanting to come to Holland and shit.Skinheads killing blacks,Turks and shit in Germany.And i had a coloured uncle living in Germany,who left because it was to racist.Further maybe not really racist but i was in London and i couldn't get in the clubs i wanted.The only clubs i could get in was clubs where only black people went.I did get some comments from bouncers like:White people can't go out they have to work tomorrow,not like you people.I went to the clubs on a sunday,so i don't think he saw that we were tourist.Further allot of racist shit i met was from Dutch people or Belgium people.But then i'll be writing all night.


Well like i said, depends on where you go. Id go as far as saying that germans are not more or less racist than anyone else. Where i am at, you will barely meet those people. Almost never.


I know and i got no problem with Germans.I see it as individuals who are racist not a whole race or government or something.And there clubs at the border are the bomb.Clubbing to 7 in the morning.And those white Germans can dance as f*ck.For real.
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Postby Silencioso » March 23rd, 2007, 1:32 pm

It all depends on what kind of racism you're taliking about.

anti-black racism: Sudan, Mauretania (50% 0f black males are in slavery), South Africa, Brazil (treats its black people like 2nd class citizens), US, most Latino countries with a black population.

anti-Asian: Australia

anti-white/European: China, Japan, Middle East in general

anti-Latino: US, dark latinos dicriminated in their own countries.

anti-Native Amer.: Brazil, Central American countries in general, Mexico.

anti-Arab: France, Spain, US, Britain
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Postby Odog » March 23rd, 2007, 3:12 pm

Silencioso wrote:It all depends on what kind of racism you're taliking about.

anti-black racism: Sudan, Mauretania (50% 0f black males are in slavery), South Africa, Brazil (treats its black people like 2nd class citizens), US, most Latino countries with a black population.

anti-Asian: Australia

anti-white/European: China, Japan, Middle East in general

anti-Latino: US, dark latinos dicriminated in their own countries.

anti-Native Amer.: Brazil, Central American countries in general, Mexico.

anti-Arab: France, Spain, US, Britain


Anti-Asian Australia??You got to explaine that homie,more like anti-Aboriginals.
anti-Latino:US more like anti-Afro American
anti-Arab Spain well 300 citizens died after a terrorist attack by Maroccans you figure it out.
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Postby johnnnny » March 24th, 2007, 8:34 am

-Odog i take it your non white in holland, how do u feel about people thinking of you as an invading army???
-with the shifting demographics in holland, do u feel its time for a change?
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Postby johnnnny » March 24th, 2007, 8:38 am

Anti-Asian Australia??You got to explaine that homie,more like anti-Aboriginals


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Australian_Policy

Restrictions on immigration began with anti-Chinese legislation during the Australian goldrushes of the 1850s
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Postby Silencioso » March 24th, 2007, 12:43 pm

I have the US in the anti-black category.
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Postby johnnnny » March 24th, 2007, 12:52 pm

johnnnny wrote:-Odog i take it your non white in holland, how do u feel about people thinking of you as an invading army???
-with the shifting demographics in holland, do u feel its time for a change?


i ask this question, because immigration has become a problem in europe
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Postby AcmeWhiteBread » March 25th, 2007, 4:54 pm

My favorite pick would be the "Colored" vs The " Black " in the townships around South Africa. Winnie Mandela and her " Soccer Team "
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference ... offset=20&

Bunch of hired guns..... lol no white man has ever killed as many blacks as blacks have killed, yet again it is so easy to point the finger..
Whited have been the minority of this world since the beggining of time and yet its still all our fault..
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Postby perongregory » March 25th, 2007, 6:25 pm

AcmeWhiteBread wrote:My favorite pick would be the "Colored" vs The " Black " in the townships around South Africa. Winnie Mandela and her " Soccer Team "
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference ... offset=20&

Bunch of hired guns..... lol no white man has ever killed as many blacks as blacks have killed, yet again it is so easy to point the finger..
Whited have been the minority of this world since the beggining of time and yet its still all our fault..


you made yourselves the vengeful hateful minortiy you seek to classify blacks as by creating the absurd concept of scientific race itself.
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Postby Sentenza » March 26th, 2007, 5:44 am

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Odog wrote:1 of they racist encounter that i had with a German.In Holland and Belgium you have like these familyparks.Where you go on vacation with the whole family.Germans also visit these parks.So i was on this waterbicycle in the lake of the park,with two of my nephews and we came across this restaurant who was at the lake.And a German cunt said:"Look some monkeys in the water",and started laughing.My nephew heard him and started screaming at him.That made the German even laugh harder.He grabbed an ashtray and throwed it at us,grabbed his camera and started filming us for our response.While saying look some monkeys.Now my nephew went totally berserk,but his little brother got scared so we just went away.We were only like 10 or something.This guy was like something in his late 30's 40's.And in the 80's and 90's German skinheads were always in the news,like big skinheads riots and German skinheads wanting to come to Holland and shit.Skinheads killing blacks,Turks and shit in Germany.And i had a coloured uncle living in Germany,who left because it was to racist.Further maybe not really racist but i was in London and i couldn't get in the clubs i wanted.The only clubs i could get in was clubs where only black people went.I did get some comments from bouncers like:White people can't go out they have to work tomorrow,not like you people.I went to the clubs on a sunday,so i don't think he saw that we were tourist.Further allot of racist shit i met was from Dutch people or Belgium people.But then i'll be writing all night.


Well like i said, depends on where you go. Id go as far as saying that germans are not more or less racist than anyone else. Where i am at, you will barely meet those people. Almost never.


I know and i got no problem with Germans.I see it as individuals who are racist not a whole race or government or something.And there clubs at the border are the bomb.Clubbing to 7 in the morning.And those white Germans can dance as f*ck.For real.


Haha its all good. :wink: I know what you were talking about though...
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Postby Odog » March 26th, 2007, 8:24 am

Am i the only one with a real encounter with racisme,i don't think so.Anybody.............just curieus what you have encounterd,no big deal or something.
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Postby johnnnny » March 26th, 2007, 8:28 am

johnnnny wrote:-Odog i take it your non white in holland, how do u feel about people thinking of you as an invading army???
-with the shifting demographics in holland, do u feel its time for a change?
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Postby justice league » March 26th, 2007, 9:04 am

johnnnny wrote:America
South Africa
Austrailia
Sweden
Russia
Japan


-i dont know where you got nigeria from



nigerians HATE americans.. esp the white ones.. I dont know where YOU get American....

last place on earth a nation could be called racist is america... otherwise it would be all one color.. dont you think?
and australia? I dont think so..

maybe I dont undertand the question... what is the most racist country? or which country has the most racist people?

as a nation... America is so far removed from being racist I think anyone who states otherwise needs a head exam. I mean geez loweez... was the civil war about white rights? I think not.
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Postby johnnnny » March 26th, 2007, 9:13 am

justice league wrote:as a nation... America is so far removed from being racist I think anyone who states otherwise needs a head exam. I mean geez loweez... was the civil war about white rights? I think not.


lol even though alot of whites died to free the slaves(1% of the american population), and very few blacks acknolowdge it. You statement is false. American government is very much racist, way too many examples.
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Postby justice league » March 26th, 2007, 9:22 am

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justice league wrote:as a nation... America is so far removed from being racist I think anyone who states otherwise needs a head exam. I mean geez loweez... was the civil war about white rights? I think not.


lol even though alot of whites died to free the slaves(1% of the american population), and very few blacks acknolowdge it. You statement is false. American government is very much racist, way too many examples.

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I guess you live in texas.


and as usual... too many good things done are forgotten... but like whitebread said
whites get all the blame and none of the credit...

it makes it really hard to support a people who berates you for giving a fuXX
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Postby Odog » March 26th, 2007, 10:10 am

johnnnny wrote:-Odog i take it your non white in holland, how do u feel about people thinking of you as an invading army???
-with the shifting demographics in holland, do u feel its time for a change?


Change for what?You mean no immigrants.And people don't think of me as invading there country.
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Postby johnnnny » March 26th, 2007, 2:20 pm

Odog wrote:
johnnnny wrote:-Odog i take it your non white in holland, how do u feel about people thinking of you as an invading army???
-with the shifting demographics in holland, do u feel its time for a change?


Change for what?You mean no immigrants.And people don't think of me as invading there country.


no offence but people in canada hear about eurabia and think muslims and immigrants are taking over, and they specifically look at the neatherlands as an example.. they think people purposfully move to europe to push out the white people..... i know the history and why there are many immigrants but some dont and some dont judge.... but we all agree that the whites are being pushed outta the major cities...

and yes to your question, i just wnt to hear what you say i know how the whites feel, but i dont know what the non whites think i just want to ask
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Postby Sentenza » March 26th, 2007, 2:30 pm

johnnnny wrote:
Odog wrote:
johnnnny wrote:-Odog i take it your non white in holland, how do u feel about people thinking of you as an invading army???
-with the shifting demographics in holland, do u feel its time for a change?


Change for what?You mean no immigrants.And people don't think of me as invading there country.


no offence but people in canada hear about eurabia and think muslims and immigrants are taking over, and they specifically look at the neatherlands as an example.. they think people purposfully move to europe to push out the white people..... i know the history and why there are many immigrants but some dont and some dont judge.... but we all agree that the whites are being pushed outta the major cities...

and yes to your question, i just wnt to hear what you say i know how the whites feel, but i dont know what the non whites think i just want to ask


Eurabia is a Conspiracy Theory made up by Right Wing extremists, that is all can say about that.
They are the same that once said that the Jews want to take over Europe.
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Postby johnnnny » March 26th, 2007, 4:53 pm

-i know, its actually kinda funny cause someone i work with told me about eurabia he said he read an article in one of those magazines like "Time" or something and honestly he could have been a deer caught in a headlight he was acting all nutso lol.

-but i dont know what to think, i dont hate them for living there they had as much control over were they were born like i did, but i also hear people with dual citizn ships are a major % of them anyways, and mabye that should get looked into...

-its one of those cases: let the dutch and french run their country, and likewise let the zulu people and other tribes of southern africa run south africa.....

-to combat global racism i have a hypothesis that either we live with it, swap between populations, or die....
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Postby Odog » March 27th, 2007, 7:38 am

Sentenza wrote:
johnnnny wrote:
Odog wrote:
johnnnny wrote:-Odog i take it your non white in holland, how do u feel about people thinking of you as an invading army???
-with the shifting demographics in holland, do u feel its time for a change?


Change for what?You mean no immigrants.And people don't think of me as invading there country.


no offence but people in canada hear about eurabia and think muslims and immigrants are taking over, and they specifically look at the neatherlands as an example.. they think people purposfully move to europe to push out the white people..... i know the history and why there are many immigrants but some dont and some dont judge.... but we all agree that the whites are being pushed outta the major cities...

and yes to your question, i just wnt to hear what you say i know how the whites feel, but i dont know what the non whites think i just want to ask


Eurabia is a Conspiracy Theory made up by Right Wing extremists, that is all can say about that.
They are the same that once said that the Jews want to take over Europe.


But Sentenza i've seen footage of German Nazi's collaberating with muslims because they both hate Jews.Muslims in Germany even had nazi propaganda in there house.So.....what's really going on in Germany?
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Postby shivasouth » March 27th, 2007, 8:20 am

yeah I'd say America too, never saw people hating on each other so much. Nothing to do with the fear of the unknown, just plain old mother fuckin' racism anywhere you go whether you're black, white, latino, arab, asian, catholic, jew, muslim...

Just listen to them on TV talking about the fight of "good" against "evil" who the fuck do these people think they are, fuckin' superheroes or something. Who is good and who is evil? Nobody can tell everybody is just defending their interests (wallets).

I live in a neighborhood where all races live together in the south of france (thank you for not stereotyping the fact that I'm french, and I know what I'm talkin' about I grew up in the yonkers), and I know it's easy to talk in front of a computer screen but people don't act racist on my block unless they need someone to dig em a second ass hole.
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Postby johnnnny » March 27th, 2007, 8:37 am

Eurabia is a Conspiracy Theory made up by Right Wing extremists, that is all can say about that.
They are the same that once said that the Jews want to take over Europe.


arent most of the non germans in germany turkish? they kinda fit right in... compared to other places that would be different. And for example your country in 2004 held the 3rd most international migrants worldwide which was 10 million of 191 million....

So.....what's really going on in Germany?


whats really going on in the neatherlands?
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Postby Sentenza » March 27th, 2007, 10:32 am

Odog wrote:
Sentenza wrote:
johnnnny wrote:
Odog wrote:
johnnnny wrote:-Odog i take it your non white in holland, how do u feel about people thinking of you as an invading army???
-with the shifting demographics in holland, do u feel its time for a change?


Change for what?You mean no immigrants.And people don't think of me as invading there country.


no offence but people in canada hear about eurabia and think muslims and immigrants are taking over, and they specifically look at the neatherlands as an example.. they think people purposfully move to europe to push out the white people..... i know the history and why there are many immigrants but some dont and some dont judge.... but we all agree that the whites are being pushed outta the major cities...

and yes to your question, i just wnt to hear what you say i know how the whites feel, but i dont know what the non whites think i just want to ask


Eurabia is a Conspiracy Theory made up by Right Wing extremists, that is all can say about that.
They are the same that once said that the Jews want to take over Europe.


But Sentenza i've seen footage of German Nazi's collaberating with muslims because they both hate Jews.Muslims in Germany even had nazi propaganda in there house.So.....what's really going on in Germany?


Yes. Horst Mahler, the leaqder of a german Nazi Party wanted to attend the Holocaust conference in Teheran and both sides have been in contact with each other. Even Hitler had Muslims to fight for him. Buit only because they share(d) the same enemy. When a Muslim and a Nazi Skin meet on the streets, they are definitely far from being friends.
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Postby Sentenza » March 27th, 2007, 10:42 am

johnnnny wrote:
Eurabia is a Conspiracy Theory made up by Right Wing extremists, that is all can say about that.
They are the same that once said that the Jews want to take over Europe.


arent most of the non germans in germany turkish? they kinda fit right in... compared to other places that would be different. And for example your country in 2004 held the 3rd most international migrants worldwide which was 10 million of 191 million....

So.....what's really going on in Germany?


whats really going on in the neatherlands?


Yes:

With an estimated number of 2.2—2.6 million Turkish people in Germany (including those who have acquired German citizenship) form the largest ethnic minority.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turks_in_Germany

Germany has around 80 million citizens, of which i think around 10-15 million are of foreign ancestry. Most of them european. So i really cant see where someone is taking over anytime soon.
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Postby Odog » March 27th, 2007, 10:55 am

["johnnnny"]
whats really going on in the neatherlands?


Well it's true the big cities the white's are the minority,but what you gonna do about it?It is what it is.The only thing i see is something like a war.But it's a loose loose situation.If there is a war you loose,if a right wing party comes to power you loose.Have you ever been to a big city with only whites living there,BOOOORING!Different cultures,bring life,bring just something else to life.It enhances your life,if you go back.Is like going back in evolution.
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Postby johnnnny » March 27th, 2007, 11:02 am

Odog wrote:
["johnnnny"]
whats really going on in the neatherlands?


Well it's true the big cities the white's are the minority,but what you gonna do about it?It is what it is.The only thing i see is something like a war.But it's a loose loose situation.If there is a war you loose,if a right wing party comes to power you loose.!Different cultures,bring life,bring just something else to life.It enhances your life,if you go back.Is like going back in evolution.


-but what if the people there dont want you to enhance there life? you may in fact think its boring but the people who created that world dont think so. Lose Lose Lose Lose situation eh.... :roll:
-history has shown that culturals that stayed to themselves last longer then those that dont. You dont sound at all upset about war let alone pushing folks out :wink:
Have you ever been to a big city with only whites living there,BOOOORING


those kind of statements breed racism
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Postby Sentenza » March 27th, 2007, 11:31 am

johnnnny wrote:-history has shown that culturals that stayed to themselves last longer then those that dont. You dont sound at all upset about war let alone pushing folks out :wink:


I would disagree here. In history, there has almost never been a culture that exclusively for themselves. And those who did were stagnating cultures and didnt develope over thousands of years.
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Postby Odog » March 27th, 2007, 11:52 am

But Johnnny do you really think a European country is gonna expell all the muslims from there countries.Come on now,that's never gonna happen.Well i will not say never,that's to strong.But i can't imagine it.And Sentenza if all the different cultures would leave Berlin,you have to agree then Berlin is Berlin no more.
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Postby johnnnny » March 27th, 2007, 12:14 pm

Odog wrote:But Johnnny do you really think a European country is gonna expell all the muslims from there countries.Come on now,that's never gonna happen.Well i will not say never,that's to strong.But i can't imagine it.And Sentenza if all the different cultures would leave Berlin,you have to agree then Berlin is Berlin no more.


Berlin has been Berlin before you me or anyone reading this message, none of us but the original inhabitants of a place can say whats good for them. White people feel threatened by your presence and i dont think at all you care about that letting alone playing those fears, you sound like you just dont give a fuck and your saying they need this to be happy.

so its fair to say then that the declining white population in South Africa should INCREASE because the culture the ORIGINAL INHABITANTS had is inferior? Your and mine opinions are just that and we shouldnt throw them around like you, cause saying you support a demographic change in europe is the same as saying you support a demographic change in south africa or malaysia.

Now saying it like you have isnt cool, period. I support peoples mixing, but i also support the idea that the original inhabitants should run there OWN countries, and that includes the native americans of my country.
People would be alot happier being to themselves.

honestly you sound like a nazi more then anything
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Postby Odog » March 27th, 2007, 1:20 pm

johnnnny wrote:
Odog wrote:But Johnnny do you really think a European country is gonna expell all the muslims from there countries.Come on now,that's never gonna happen.Well i will not say never,that's to strong.But i can't imagine it.And Sentenza if all the different cultures would leave Berlin,you have to agree then Berlin is Berlin no more.


Berlin has been Berlin before you me or anyone reading this message, none of us but the original inhabitants of a place can say whats good for them. White people feel threatened by your presence and i dont think at all you care about that letting alone playing those fears, you sound like you just dont give a fu-- and your saying they need this to be happy.

so its fair to say then that the declining white population in South Africa should INCREASE because the culture the ORIGINAL INHABITANTS had is inferior? Your and mine opinions are just that and we shouldnt throw them around like you, cause saying you support a demographic change in europe is the same as saying you support a demographic change in south africa or malaysia.

Now saying it like you have isnt cool, period. I support peoples mixing, but i also support the idea that the original inhabitants should run there OWN countries, and that includes the native americans of my country.
People would be alot happier being to themselves.

honestly you sound like a nazi more then anything


Johnnny Johnnny boy i am half white:SURPRISE.My mother is white,i am a half caste.Do you live in a big city?It's just how life is around here,i just can't explain it.I got love for my white people and i got love for my coloured people.So you see it's a lose lose situation for me,i can't win.If the white's win i lose family,if the other party wins i lose and i do agree the Dutch culture is important to me.And about Berlin your right.BTW to me you sound more like a nazi,but that's probably cultural differences.
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Postby Sentenza » March 27th, 2007, 2:10 pm

johnnnny wrote:Berlin has been Berlin before you me or anyone reading this message, none of us but the original inhabitants of a place can say whats good for them. White people feel threatened by your presence and i dont think at all you care about that letting alone playing those fears, you sound like you just dont give a fu-- and your saying they need this to be happy.


The original inhabitants of this place were Slavs. Then came the ancient Germans, then during numerous wars sveral people came here. In the 17th century a huge amount of French people settled here cause they were prosecuted for being protestants in France. Many French words made it into the Berlin dialect and it is believed, that 25 % of Berlins population originated in France.
Those French people were allured to Berlin under the promise of freedom of Religion and personal freedom. The same Prussian emperor who did that was the one who said: "All religions are equally good if the people who worship them are honest. If Turks and Pagans will come here i will build Mosques for them."

So with all that being said i am not sure who can proclaim to be the original inhabitant of this place. And since the Turks have done a lot for this city too and worked hard to make it i see no reason why they should be evicted?
Also you have to keep in mind that most Turks are very secular and have nothing to do with Arabs. They dont like Arabs. So there you can see again that the Eurabia Theory is a bunch of BS.
Berlin has about 3,5 million citizens of whom 220, 000 are Muslims (160,000 Turks)..doesnt sound like a majority to me. And especially not like a majority of Arabs.
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