THE JENA SIX

These concepts are socially constructed and have been given much weight. What are your thoughts?

Postby BxxMILITIA » September 19th, 2007, 2:19 pm

^^^and im glad this shit is gettin attention, imagine wut they families r goin thru...their lil brothers n sisters witout a big brother, jus for beatin the shit out a racist white boi, they should b awarded for doin that shit, this act only tells people its okay 2 b a racist, cause if u ever get ur ass whooped, u could count on the almighty white government 2 back u down :roll:...this shit been happenin, but i jus didnt picture myself in that position, u cant jus destroy families like that, we already live in broken homes with no dad or sumtimes even no mom, jus u, ya siblings and grandma...i feel like cursin white peopl, i aint even gonna lie, but im smart enuff 2 kno theres good ones n bad ones, like in any other race...the thing that makes white people stand out is the fact that, no matter wut u do, they always rite!!!! theres almost no beating a white man in court...if we cant do it in a civilized manner with words, and strap up, u cant blame us...look at martin luther "the" KING, kept his faith, never raised his hand 2 no white man, even in those disgusting times, and he was shot dead...god bless amerikkkKa, home of the free... :roll:
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Postby A Ghost » September 19th, 2007, 10:06 pm

In the paper it said that theres gonna be a rally out there and they're trying to get people from all the Louisiana cities to march down there.....
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Postby Young Deuce » September 20th, 2007, 4:23 am

my homie called me today and asked if i was gonna wear black today at school fa them/that movement and i did.......
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Postby A Ghost » September 20th, 2007, 10:22 am

Young Deuce wrote:my homie called me today and asked if i was gonna wear black today at school fa them/that movement and i did.......


thats today?
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Postby A Ghost » September 20th, 2007, 10:34 am

CNN has live coverage on the rally right now
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Postby A Ghost » September 20th, 2007, 7:19 pm

I work my black today after seeing Duece's post.


Did you?
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Postby Sentenza » September 20th, 2007, 11:13 pm

I was discussing this the other day somewhere else and people were like: No man, thats not racism, the blacks there are just acting crazy over unimportant issues.
They only bring this in the News to make white people look racist. :shock: :shock:
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Postby $outhPhillypuppet » September 21st, 2007, 6:15 am

Sentenza wrote:I was discussing this the other day somewhere else and people were like: No man, thats not racism, the blacks there are just acting crazy over unimportant issues.
They only bring this in the News to make white people look racist. :shock: :shock:

I, as a representative of Philadelphia encourage you to slap,punch and/or stab anybody that would say that.
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Postby Sentenza » September 21st, 2007, 10:55 am

$outhPhillypuppet wrote:
Sentenza wrote:I was discussing this the other day somewhere else and people were like: No man, thats not racism, the blacks there are just acting crazy over unimportant issues.
They only bring this in the News to make white people look racist. :shock: :shock:

I, as a representative of Philadelphia encourage you to slap,punch and/or stab anybody that would say that.


:lol: :lol: Seriously, i wish i could. That stuff is just some stupid ass white supremacist talk.
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Postby ManifestTruth » September 21st, 2007, 11:14 am

Sentenza wrote:
$outhPhillypuppet wrote:
Sentenza wrote:I was discussing this the other day somewhere else and people were like: No man, thats not racism, the blacks there are just acting crazy over unimportant issues.
They only bring this in the News to make white people look racist. :shock: :shock:

I, as a representative of Philadelphia encourage you to slap,punch and/or stab anybody that would say that.


:lol: :lol: Seriously, i wish i could. That stuff is just some stupid ass white supremacist talk.


In The States, not only white supremacists speak/think that way. Free speech though, and
I respect all forms of it.
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Postby Sentenza » September 21st, 2007, 11:26 am

ManifestTruth wrote:
Sentenza wrote:
$outhPhillypuppet wrote:
Sentenza wrote:I was discussing this the other day somewhere else and people were like: No man, thats not racism, the blacks there are just acting crazy over unimportant issues.
They only bring this in the News to make white people look racist. :shock: :shock:

I, as a representative of Philadelphia encourage you to slap,punch and/or stab anybody that would say that.


:lol: :lol: Seriously, i wish i could. That stuff is just some stupid ass white supremacist talk.


In The States, not only white supremacists speak/think that way. Free speech though, and
I respect all forms of it.


I understand and obviously i have to admit the same for Germany obviously. I respect free speech too, but it doesnt change the fact that i would like to E-Slap them hard. Its absolutely hippocritical, because the same people cry like babies, when a white guy gets treated unfair by a black guy or any kind of muslim.
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Postby A Ghost » September 21st, 2007, 7:49 pm

Sentenza wrote:I was discussing this the other day somewhere else and people were like: No man, thats not racism, the blacks there are just acting crazy over unimportant issues.
They only bring this in the News to make white people look racist. :shock: :shock:


I got whites and Mexicans telling me that "The blacks only did it to start trouble" and that "they deserve to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law."

Then they spit a whole bunch of BS ass propaganda jargon and everyone agrees with them.


The sickest thing is that its a lowrider website.....
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Postby ManifestTruth » September 22nd, 2007, 11:29 am

A Ghost wrote:
Sentenza wrote:I was discussing this the other day somewhere else and people were like: No man, thats not racism, the blacks there are just acting crazy over unimportant issues.
They only bring this in the News to make white people look racist. :shock: :shock:


I got whites and Mexicans telling me that "The blacks only did it to start trouble" and that "they deserve to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law."

Then they spit a whole bunch of BS ass propaganda jargon and everyone agrees with them.


The sickest thing is that its a lowrider website.....


One thing we learn in life that there are some who are gonna believe what they wanna believe and some who only see what they wanna see... The world keeps spinnin' though.
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Postby MiChuhSuh » September 22nd, 2007, 1:01 pm

Sentenza wrote:I was discussing this the other day somewhere else and people were like: No man, thats not racism, the blacks there are just acting crazy over unimportant issues.
They only bring this in the News to make white people look racist. :shock: :shock:


This is a different environment here but:

I now disagree with most of what was said here.

Jena 6 + OJ + other media "priorities" means that purely innocent victims like Megan Williams are just gonna be left under the radar. They talk about it on CNN about 6 days after it happened, and even then she got pushed back for OJ and Jena.

Charging them for "stealing a gun" was BS but "over-charging" for the others who beat up the white kids isn't nearly on the level of victimization of the defendants it could have been. The whole situation is fucked up but they tried to make it look like the cops just dragged in anyone for no reason. It was double sided and yes racial but there are purely innocent victims out there who have been ignored because all the attention was given to "they're not THAT bad"

There was racism from both sides here.

And to anyone saying I can't speak on this because I'm "Korean", I'm speaking as a fucking American - this happened in my country and I think my country's media is turning into nothing more than sensationalist entertainment.

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JENA, LA. -- -- In a scene reminiscent of civil rights protests of decades past, thousands of protesters descended on this small Southern town Thursday to peacefully decry what they said was the unfair treatment of six black teenagers charged with beating a white schoolmate.

The case of the Jena Six, as the defendants have come to be known, attracted a cast of famous black leaders, but many said the crowd was called by fresh chorus of voices -- among them bloggers, black radio personalities and Web-networked college students.


Organizers said the crowd swelled to 50,000; state police said it was too spread out to count. As the visitors began pouring into this mostly white central Louisiana community of 3,000 at daybreak, they encountered a ghost town: The courthouse, the high school and almost all the businesses -- from the barber to the bail bondsman -- were closed.

It was not long, though, before the protesters, many of them African American and many wearing black T-shirts, filled the two-lane highway through downtown and residential streets, chanting and holding placards that read "Free the Jena Six" and "Enough Is Enough."

On the steps of the LaSalle Parish Courthouse, speakers described the case as an example of an American justice system that continued to treat African Americans unfairly, despite the progress made since the days of Jim Crow.

"In the 20th century, we had to fight for where we sit on the bus," said the Rev. Al Sharpton, who arrived at the courthouse with members of the defendants' families. "Now we have to fight on how we sit in the courtroom."

Added the Rev. Jesse Jackson: "There is a Jena in every town, a Jena in every state."

That kind of talk was met with disdain by residents of Jena (pronounced JEE-nuh), many of whom stayed indoors for the day. Some who ventured outside said their town had been unfairly singled out, by both protesters and media, as a backwoods redoubt of racial animosity.

"They have cast us a bunch of ignorant, racist bumpkins," said Ray Hodges, an automotive technology teacher at Jena High School. "It's about as far from the truth as you can get. There is racism in Jena, but it's not only in Jena, it's not only in Louisiana, it's not only in the South. It's an American thing."


"I actually heard a girl shout 'Shame on Jena,' " said Pam Sharp, 43, who sat in a plastic chair as the procession filed past her house. "I shouted back, 'No, shame on you!' " How can they include the whole town? That's the shame."

For Sharp, the victim in the case was Justin Barker, the 17-year-old white student who was kicked in the head and knocked unconscious.

"Protesters don't want to talk about him," she said.


At a White House news conference Thursday morning, President Bush said the events in Jena had "saddened" him.

"I understand the emotions," Bush said. "The Justice Department and the FBI are monitoring the situation down there, and all of us in America want there to be fairness when it comes to justice."

Sharpton told the Associated Press that he and other black leaders were trying to persuade the House Judiciary Committee to call Jena's district attorney, Reed Walters, to Capitol Hill to explain his actions.

Walters, in a news conference Wednesday, said the case was not about race but about "finding justice for an innocent victim, and holding people accountable for their actions."

To some black observers, however, the Jena story -- studded with explosive symbols from an age of more widespread and blatant racism -- was too volatile to be ignored.

The trouble started last September when three white students hung nooses from a tree where whites traditionally congregated at the local high school. The students responsible were suspended. Later, part of the school mysteriously burned down.

Racial tensions reportedly flared on campus, and in December, the six black students allegedly beat up Barker. He was taken to the hospital and treated for injuries to his ears, face and eye; later that night, he attended a ring ceremony at school.

The black students were arrested and kicked out of school, and five of them were charged with attempted second-degree murder. (The sixth was charged as a juvenile and was recently allowed to return to classes.) The charges were later reduced. One of the defendants, Mychal Bell, was tried and found guilty of aggravated battery. His conviction was thrown out this month, though, because he was tried as an adult rather than a juvenile. He remains in custody while prosecutors decided whether to file new charges against him.

The other defendants are awaiting trial dates and face up to 22 years in prison.

To Jasmyne Cannick -- a blogger and black activist from Los Angeles -- such details convinced her that something was clearly amiss in Jena. In recent days, she said, she has devoted much of her blogging to the case, and encouraged supporters to go to Thursday's protest or wear black in their hometowns.

Cannick and other bloggers linked to an online petition that had more than 380,000 signatures by Thursday afternoon. Addressed to the U.S. Justice Department's civil rights division, the petition called the treatment of the young men a "gross miscarriage of justice" and demanded a federal investigation. Some of the signatories left searing comments.

"This case is so racist, it's not even funny," wrote Omonike Ayorinde of Illinois. "As a black woman, a noose hanging from a tree is NOT just some 'silly little prank.' My heart and prayers are with these boys and their families."

Members of the social networking website Facebook formed "Free the Jena 6" groups. On the video site YouTube, users posted snippets of news broadcasts and footage from local rallies in support of the defendants. Some delivered homemade protest raps.

"Jena Six Louisiana, it's so clear -- racism still alive and kickin' down there," rhymed a man who called himself ConsciousL.

In the radio industry, Thursday's protest was seen as a sign of the growing influence of black talk show hosts. Their popularity has been growing in recent years in concert with the general rise of the talk radio phenomenon, according to Michael Harrison, publisher of Talkers, an industry magazine.

That power has been evident in Atlanta, where radio station WAMJ-FM (102.5) delivers hours of black-oriented talk radio programming. Derek Harper, the station's program director, said that in the last month, most of the station's syndicated talkers -- including Steve Harvey, Al Sharpton, Michael Baisden and Warren Ballentine -- had picked up on the story and made it a major issue.

Ballentine was among a number of radio personalities broadcasting live from Jena on Thursday. He said he had been rallying black people around the issue since learning about it in June.

On his show, he recalled, "I said, 'I'm calling out attorneys, ballplayers, rappers -- you got to step to the plate! . . . Where are you at when our kids need you?' "

That sense of urgency and outrage is not shared by all African Americans, however.

Joe Hicks, the former head of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference's Los Angeles chapter, accused some black leaders of rushing to judgment. He said the prosecutor must have had a good reason to assume the victim's life was in jeopardy. He also noted that the final verdicts had not been reached.

"I'm troubled by what appears to be a great deal of racial opportunism on the part of some of the orthodox civil rights leadership," said Hicks, who has criticized such leaders from the right in recent years. "They are rushing to condemn what's going on in Jena, and yet some of these guys were clamoring for the conviction of the guys involved in the Duke rape case.

"They're picking up a lot of rocks, and lifted up Jena and decided, 'This is a representation of what black people are facing in America,' " he added. "I don't think that's the state of American race relations at all."

Such sentiments were rare Thursday on the streets of Jena. Instead, protesters listened to rapper Mos Def and a reading from the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.'s "I Have a Dream" speech. Another man played African drums. Nearby, Bob Marley tunes blasted from a red truck.

Closer to the school, some protesters held hands in a circle. Others prayed. But most spent their time holding cellphones, digital cameras and camcorders -- recording themselves and their friends in front of the paths the Jena Six walked, the classrooms where the Jena Six sat, the football field where some of the Jena Six played.

The tree at the center of the controversy was cut down over the summer, but that did not stop protesters like A.J. Walker, who photographed her daughter at the patch of dirt where it once stood.

"I want my children to be part of history," said Walker, a black police officer from Houston. "I want to show them they have to stand for something."
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Postby WIP » September 23rd, 2007, 12:36 am

MiChuhSuh wrote:
Sentenza wrote:I was discussing this the other day somewhere else and people were like: No man, thats not racism, the blacks there are just acting crazy over unimportant issues.
They only bring this in the News to make white people look racist. :shock: :shock:


There was racism from both sides here.




Those blacks kids should have never sat under that tree. Then everything would be OK. Right MiChuh??
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Postby MiChuhSuh » September 23rd, 2007, 12:50 am

WIP wrote:
MiChuhSuh wrote:
Sentenza wrote:I was discussing this the other day somewhere else and people were like: No man, thats not racism, the blacks there are just acting crazy over unimportant issues.
They only bring this in the News to make white people look racist. :shock: :shock:


There was racism from both sides here.




Those blacks kids should have never sat under that tree. Then everything would be OK. Right MiChuh??


They're not on trial for sitting under a tree.
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Postby WIP » September 24th, 2007, 10:15 am

oh really scholar? i guess in your mind they jumped that 'poor' white boy for no reason. he was just so innocent that the evil black kids just wanted to be violent. MiChuh you stay in school keep up with HIStory. your gonna be one of the smartest sheep to ever graduate.
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Postby ManifestTruth » September 24th, 2007, 12:24 pm

WIP wrote:oh really scholar? i guess in your mind they jumped that 'poor' white boy for no reason. he was just so innocent that the evil black kids just wanted to be violent. MiChuh you stay in school keep up with HIStory. your gonna be one of the smartest sheep to ever graduate.


Micusuh wrote:

"but "over-charging" for the others who beat up the white kids isn't nearly on the level of victimization of the defendants it could have been."

Yeah, you're definitely speaking as an &^%#@ American here. Long live rugged individualism... :roll: :evil: :shock:
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Postby EmperorPenguin » October 1st, 2007, 4:27 pm

WIP wrote:oh really scholar? i guess in your mind they jumped that 'poor' white boy for no reason. he was just so innocent that the evil black kids just wanted to be violent. MiChuh you stay in school keep up with HIStory. your gonna be one of the smartest sheep to ever graduate.


From anything I've read the white kid who got beat up was innocent. He actually didn't hang the ropes from the trees at all. There's plenty of proof that the white kid that was beaten wasn't really involved in this situation prior to being beat up. Those who did the beating do deserve to be punished, but the punishment has to meet the crime. 6 kids beating up (and from what I understand it looked more like a black eye and a shove) 1 seemingly innocent kid deserve what any other 6 on 1 kid fight deserves, probation, community service, whatever. Those involved in the hanging of the ropes deserve to be punished as well, those are hate crimes, and racial motivated and should be punished as such.
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