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These concepts are socially constructed and have been given much weight. What are your thoughts?

Postby A Ghost » October 9th, 2007, 11:31 pm

Christina Marie wrote:
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Christina Marie wrote:You really have NO business putting words in my mouth. Sorry to get you all flustered. And yes I AM white and yes I feel there is some truth to this. There are alot of double standards and its straight BS. Does this mean I am racist? You will draw your own conclusions (OBVIOUSLY). Seems though that the truth bothers you a bit or you wouldnt be so defensive.

A Ghost wrote:Christina asks: "Ghost, why are the words white pride racist?"



Good question Christina, I'll answer for you. Because 98% of the time, people who preach "White Pride" are doing it to spread racism and hate. As evidenced by that list.

98% of the time when blacks preach "Black Pride" it's to feel good about themselves and work to making things better for blacks. And NOT to teach hate. (See black panthers)





Christina asks: "But Ghost, that's not true the black panthers were racist!"


Actually Christina they weren't. Whites sat in on Black Panther speeches and were never harmed, they were accepted. Whites worked in the offices of the black panthers helping to organize things and print newsletters etc... If they were truly racist then those whites would not have been allowed even in the building.




Any more questions Christina?


I know thats not your list but I cant stand that garbage ass list.

It's like training literature for the KKK and I proved it ALL wrong.

Nothing personal against you, but that list has more errors and contradictions than the bible...


Then why you coming at me like thats my own personal list? You need to rechannel your displaced anger kiddo.


I'm attacking the inconsistencies in the list. And since you said you support it I have to question you on it.
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Postby A Ghost » October 9th, 2007, 11:32 pm

Christina Marie wrote:Most people dont have the balls to point out, call out the double standards and I will tell you that I am not in the vast majority.


Heck I dont even see the majority of those as double standards, it's simply evening out the playing field, which is still biased today.
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Postby A Ghost » October 9th, 2007, 11:34 pm

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LcBwC wrote:Im with AGhost on the MLK day...thats funny. If it was a white man doing the same things that he did, he would have a day too.


They name SCHOOLS after White Organized crime members, MURDERERS!

Yet a black civil rights leader who never even hurt a fly can't get a STREET named after him????


WTF are you talking about?
Every city I have lived in has renamed a major street after MLK.. know what people usually call it? MilkyWay. sounds a little defeatist if you ask me.


People I've encountered are trying to get Martin Luther King park in Buffalo changed back to it's original name because it "scares away white people"

There are cities in America that are trying to get other streets and parks named after him but are finding it difficult to.

Yet white criminals are having schools named after them without the bat of an eye........
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Postby A Ghost » October 9th, 2007, 11:42 pm

justice league wrote: due to slavery? or due to lack of interest..... laziness, maybe...


Why don't you spot some money for a few million people to look it up? Can you guarantee them paid time off from work too?

justice league wrote: or what about just an inferior and indiffernt strain of people..


wow.......


justice league wrote: MOST people know their heritage because their ancestors chose to keep tradition or at the very least some line of history to trace
The Tribal caste system is not so difficult to understand.... the superior tribes profit off their captives...otherwise they wouldnt have been trading each other for slavery...


If whites hadn't bribed the Africans then they wouldn't have sold out other Africans.



justice league wrote:And you cant blame ignorance on oppression..... look at the Jews, the most oppressed race in the entirety of history, and yet they maintained the best recorded history of all time.


What you see today in American ghettos is actually the result of white flight from the inner cities, the devastation of drugs in inner cities, the loss of jobs, the breakdown of family, and the residual effects of segregation in America. Not necessarily slavery.
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Postby A Ghost » October 9th, 2007, 11:43 pm

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justice league wrote: or what about just an inferior and indiffernt strain of people..


LOL

fuckin racist...


hey..cold bear, that thread about the six WTF's that tortured the black girl..... I call them "an inferior and indiffrent strain of people" actually to nore acurately quote mysef.. I believe I referred to them as something "subhuman"
... so shove your "racist" statement up your hypocritical ass!!!!


Ha ha... Yeah OK

I know who you are this ain't your first time on here. I've had plenty of time to 'get to know you'... You got them tendencies miss


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Postby Christina Marie » October 9th, 2007, 11:55 pm

A Ghost wrote:
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A Ghost wrote:
Christina Marie wrote:You really have NO business putting words in my mouth. Sorry to get you all flustered. And yes I AM white and yes I feel there is some truth to this. There are alot of double standards and its straight BS. Does this mean I am racist? You will draw your own conclusions (OBVIOUSLY). Seems though that the truth bothers you a bit or you wouldnt be so defensive.

A Ghost wrote:Christina asks: "Ghost, why are the words white pride racist?"



Good question Christina, I'll answer for you. Because 98% of the time, people who preach "White Pride" are doing it to spread racism and hate. As evidenced by that list.

98% of the time when blacks preach "Black Pride" it's to feel good about themselves and work to making things better for blacks. And NOT to teach hate. (See black panthers)





Christina asks: "But Ghost, that's not true the black panthers were racist!"


Actually Christina they weren't. Whites sat in on Black Panther speeches and were never harmed, they were accepted. Whites worked in the offices of the black panthers helping to organize things and print newsletters etc... If they were truly racist then those whites would not have been allowed even in the building.




Any more questions Christina?


I know thats not your list but I cant stand that garbage ass list.

It's like training literature for the KKK and I proved it ALL wrong.

Nothing personal against you, but that list has more errors and contradictions than the bible...


Then why you coming at me like thats my own personal list? You need to rechannel your displaced anger kiddo.


I'm attacking the inconsistencies in the list. And since you said you support it I have to question you on it.


I NEVER once said I support "IT". What I did say is that I believe there are double standards regarding this issue. Read into it what you will.
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Postby Christina Marie » October 9th, 2007, 11:57 pm

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Christina Marie wrote:Most people dont have the balls to point out, call out the double standards and I will tell you that I am not in the vast majority.


Heck I dont even see the majority of those as double standards, it's simply evening out the playing field, which is still biased today.


If you call "evening out the playing field" saying that there is a GOD GIVEN RIGHT to do and blame whatever the hell you choose because of injustices done to you decades ago then cool.....whatever.
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Postby Christina Marie » October 9th, 2007, 11:59 pm

A Ghost wrote:
justice league wrote: due to slavery? or due to lack of interest..... laziness, maybe...


Why don't you spot some money for a few million people to look it up? Can you guarantee them paid time off from work too?

justice league wrote: or what about just an inferior and indiffernt strain of people..


wow.......


justice league wrote: MOST people know their heritage because their ancestors chose to keep tradition or at the very least some line of history to trace
The Tribal caste system is not so difficult to understand.... the superior tribes profit off their captives...otherwise they wouldnt have been trading each other for slavery...


If whites hadn't bribed the Africans then they wouldn't have sold out other Africans.

Your kidding right? You are going to blame whites for that too? Like whites FORCED you to CHOOSE sell out your own people. Now I HAVE heard it all.



justice league wrote:And you cant blame ignorance on oppression..... look at the Jews, the most oppressed race in the entirety of history, and yet they maintained the best recorded history of all time.


What you see today in American ghettos is actually the result of white flight from the inner cities, the devastation of drugs in inner cities, the loss of jobs, the breakdown of family, and the residual effects of segregation in America. Not necessarily slavery.
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Postby justice league » October 10th, 2007, 12:35 am

Christina Marie wrote:
A Ghost wrote:
justice league wrote: due to slavery? or due to lack of interest..... laziness, maybe...


Why don't you spot some money for a few million people to look it up? Can you guarantee them paid time off from work too?
no one gets Unemployment or disability benefits unless they pay into it. or are you saying that people should just be handed a check based on the fact they consider themselves underpriviledged? If you think people "deserve" to be on welfare, then you are saying they are beneath working. Thats a pretty low self image to uphold. And Dont give me that white privilege crap.... I have been in the service industry my entire working life. I dont get any sort of benefits or breaks,.. jsut a paycheck and if i am lucky my boss will tell me i am doing a good job. If i get sick or have to see a doctor, I better hope my injuries happen at work, or else I cant afford the expense, let alone the time off.


justice league wrote: or what about just an inferior and indiffernt strain of people..


wow.......


justice league wrote: MOST people know their heritage because their ancestors chose to keep tradition or at the very least some line of history to trace
The Tribal caste system is not so difficult to understand.... the superior tribes profit off their captives...otherwise they wouldnt have been trading each other for slavery...



If whites hadn't bribed the Africans then they wouldn't have sold out other Africans.

Your kidding right? You are going to blame whites for that too? Like whites FORCED you to CHOOSE sell out your own people. Now I HAVE heard it all.
sorry, to have to break the news... that slave trade was going on a LONG time before Europeans ever hit the shores of Africa. When the trading ships landed, there were slaves for sale. The Egyptians were enslaving hebrews 1000s of years before there was a recorded history in Europe, and Egypt is in Africa. Rome was enslaving anyone they imprisoned through the spoils of war.. they did not discriminate on color.



justice league wrote:And you cant blame ignorance on oppression..... look at the Jews, the most oppressed race in the entirety of history, and yet they maintained the best recorded history of all time.


What you see today in American ghettos is actually the result of white flight from the inner cities, the devastation of drugs in inner cities, the loss of jobs, the breakdown of family, and the residual effects of segregation in America. Not necessarily slavery.


ok, let's talk about ghettos... originally populated by those jews, the Irish and the Italians who have done one hell of a job maintaining and preserving their traditions and beliefs... Why so many blacks moved into the dregs of the inner city workings, I dont know. Black people have no excuse.. that's why they are so ready to point the finger at everyone but themselves. In fact, the majority of blacks who cant get themselves out of their own trappings usually hate the ones who do more than anyone else. I call that blatant jealousy. I have watched Asians buy out SF the worst neighborhoods that blacks have destroyed, and bring up property values and quality of living. How is this phenomena possible? What are the blacks doing wrong? truly.... it is an epidemic.
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Postby Cold Bear » October 10th, 2007, 6:39 am

justice league wrote:
Christina Marie wrote:
A Ghost wrote:
justice league wrote: due to slavery? or due to lack of interest..... laziness, maybe...


Why don't you spot some money for a few million people to look it up? Can you guarantee them paid time off from work too?
no one gets Unemployment or disability benefits unless they pay into it. or are you saying that people should just be handed a check based on the fact they consider themselves underpriviledged? If you think people "deserve" to be on welfare, then you are saying they are beneath working. Thats a pretty low self image to uphold. And Dont give me that white privilege crap.... I have been in the service industry my entire working life. I dont get any sort of benefits or breaks,.. jsut a paycheck and if i am lucky my boss will tell me i am doing a good job. If i get sick or have to see a doctor, I better hope my injuries happen at work, or else I cant afford the expense, let alone the time off.


justice league wrote: or what about just an inferior and indiffernt strain of people..


wow.......


justice league wrote: MOST people know their heritage because their ancestors chose to keep tradition or at the very least some line of history to trace
The Tribal caste system is not so difficult to understand.... the superior tribes profit off their captives...otherwise they wouldnt have been trading each other for slavery...



If whites hadn't bribed the Africans then they wouldn't have sold out other Africans.

Your kidding right? You are going to blame whites for that too? Like whites FORCED you to CHOOSE sell out your own people. Now I HAVE heard it all.
sorry, to have to break the news... that slave trade was going on a LONG time before Europeans ever hit the shores of Africa. When the trading ships landed, there were slaves for sale. The Egyptians were enslaving hebrews 1000s of years before there was a recorded history in Europe, and Egypt is in Africa. Rome was enslaving anyone they imprisoned through the spoils of war.. they did not discriminate on color.



justice league wrote:And you cant blame ignorance on oppression..... look at the Jews, the most oppressed race in the entirety of history, and yet they maintained the best recorded history of all time.


What you see today in American ghettos is actually the result of white flight from the inner cities, the devastation of drugs in inner cities, the loss of jobs, the breakdown of family, and the residual effects of segregation in America. Not necessarily slavery.


ok, let's talk about ghettos... originally populated by those jews, the Irish and the Italians who have done one hell of a job maintaining and preserving their traditions and beliefs... Why so many blacks moved into the dregs of the inner city workings, I dont know. Black people have no excuse.. that's why they are so ready to point the finger at everyone but themselves. In fact, the majority of blacks who cant get themselves out of their own trappings usually hate the ones who do more than anyone else. I call that blatant jealousy. I have watched Asians buy out SF the worst neighborhoods that blacks have destroyed, and bring up property values and quality of living. How is this phenomena possible? What are the blacks doing wrong? truly.... it is an epidemic.


I really think a lot of Americans need to be educated on the reality of the history of this country. Blacks DID try to get it together, Blacks HAVE gotten it together, and White America has shown that they do not want Blacks gaining power and have acted to subvert these movements. The original Black Wall Street is a perfect example. Blacks being absolutely, inarguably excluded from higher education until more recently is a perfect example. Black schools still suffering from "the quiet bigotry of low expectations" is a perfect example. Who puts those low expectations there? The white teachers for one, white society at large, maybe black parents, who pass on the framing of what society laid out for people of color in the past, taking a realist approach, which definitely does not include an equal education or outlook on life.

All other immigrant groups have survived and gotten over in this country by 'becoming white'. Assimilating into whiteness. Irish did it, Italians did it, Eastern Europeans did it, etc. Now Asians, Indians, Arabs, and Latinos are doing it. All survive by slipping in 'just above' Blacks. There is talk about Japanese in the next twenty years becoming classified as White. Do you understand the underpinnings of that? How Whiteness works, and how Whiteness doesn't include Blackness by default even though Brown and Yellow might be accepted into Whiteness one day? Your talk about "blacks moving into the dregs of inner city workings" is funny. After all the mob and illegal business of the other immigrants. Yet blacks were systematically pushed out of that too.

Isn't it convenient to blame others for their condition while ignoring centuries of history, just so you can rest easier.
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Postby Sentenza » October 11th, 2007, 9:41 am

Cold Bear wrote:Blacks DID try to get it together, Blacks HAVE gotten it together, and White America has shown that they do not want Blacks gaining power and have acted to subvert these movements. The original Black Wall Street is a perfect example. Blacks being absolutely, inarguably excluded from higher education until more recently is a perfect example. Black schools still suffering from "the quiet bigotry of low expectations" is a perfect example. Who puts those low expectations there? The white teachers for one, white society at large, maybe black parents, who pass on the framing of what society laid out for people of color in the past, taking a realist approach, which definitely does not include an equal education or outlook on life.


I have to agree on that one. Thats the same thing what happened in Africa. Colonial powers came in, destroyed African cultures (Mali, Ghana, South Africa etc.) and eradicated basically everything that could remind you of it and then said "oh look at these African savages, they have no culture". A justification for exploitation that has been used very often in history. White racists still refer to this without taking the time to take a deeper look at african history. Because they dont want to.

But i still cant take away the responsibility from Africans and African-Americans either. If you want to get your shit together, you have to do it yourself. Handouts were never given to discriminated people. Also not in Europe. We had to TAKE our freedom too and paid for it with many lifes. And getting your shit together to me means (especially referring to African Americans), also to get rid of self destructive and self excusing attitudes. Start there first and then, only then, you are capable of dealing with the rest. And even though they might hate it, Black Americans are more Americans than they are Africans. They have as much in common with nowadays africans as a Mongolian with a Native American in my eyes.

Cold Bear wrote:All other immigrant groups have survived and gotten over in this country by 'becoming white'. Assimilating into whiteness. Irish did it, Italians did it, Eastern Europeans did it, etc. Now Asians, Indians, Arabs, and Latinos are doing it. All survive by slipping in 'just above' Blacks. There is talk about Japanese in the next twenty years becoming classified as White. Do you understand the underpinnings of that? How Whiteness works, and how Whiteness doesn't include Blackness by default even though Brown and Yellow might be accepted into Whiteness one day? Your talk about "blacks moving into the dregs of inner city workings" is funny. After all the mob and illegal business of the other immigrants. Yet blacks were systematically pushed out of that too.

Isn't it convenient to blame others for their condition while ignoring centuries of history, just so you can rest easier.


Ignoring history of course is bs. History is as important to humanity as the childhood is to a person. But what you just wrote tells me that this whole race issue is completely blown out of proportion and has gone on a rampage in the US. Among all people it seems to me.
And its obvious again that Race is a social term in the US and not a biological one.
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Postby Noog » October 11th, 2007, 2:02 pm

"...Race is a social term in the US and ot a biological one.." Wise and True words.
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Postby A Ghost » October 11th, 2007, 7:10 pm

Christina Marie wrote:
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Christina Marie wrote:Most people dont have the balls to point out, call out the double standards and I will tell you that I am not in the vast majority.


Heck I dont even see the majority of those as double standards, it's simply evening out the playing field, which is still biased today.


If you call "evening out the playing field" saying that there is a GOD GIVEN RIGHT to do and blame whatever the hell you choose because of injustices done to you decades ago then cool.....whatever.


Realizing that history affects the present isnt a cop out.
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Postby A Ghost » October 11th, 2007, 7:11 pm

Christina Marie wrote:Your kidding right? You are going to blame whites for that too? Like whites FORCED you to CHOOSE sell out your own people. Now I HAVE heard it all.


Im white Christina
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Postby A Ghost » October 11th, 2007, 7:14 pm

Cold Bear wrote:
justice league wrote:
Christina Marie wrote:
A Ghost wrote:
justice league wrote: due to slavery? or due to lack of interest..... laziness, maybe...


Why don't you spot some money for a few million people to look it up? Can you guarantee them paid time off from work too?
no one gets Unemployment or disability benefits unless they pay into it. or are you saying that people should just be handed a check based on the fact they consider themselves underpriviledged? If you think people "deserve" to be on welfare, then you are saying they are beneath working. Thats a pretty low self image to uphold. And Dont give me that white privilege crap.... I have been in the service industry my entire working life. I dont get any sort of benefits or breaks,.. jsut a paycheck and if i am lucky my boss will tell me i am doing a good job. If i get sick or have to see a doctor, I better hope my injuries happen at work, or else I cant afford the expense, let alone the time off.


justice league wrote: or what about just an inferior and indiffernt strain of people..


wow.......


justice league wrote: MOST people know their heritage because their ancestors chose to keep tradition or at the very least some line of history to trace
The Tribal caste system is not so difficult to understand.... the superior tribes profit off their captives...otherwise they wouldnt have been trading each other for slavery...



If whites hadn't bribed the Africans then they wouldn't have sold out other Africans.

Your kidding right? You are going to blame whites for that too? Like whites FORCED you to CHOOSE sell out your own people. Now I HAVE heard it all.
sorry, to have to break the news... that slave trade was going on a LONG time before Europeans ever hit the shores of Africa. When the trading ships landed, there were slaves for sale. The Egyptians were enslaving hebrews 1000s of years before there was a recorded history in Europe, and Egypt is in Africa. Rome was enslaving anyone they imprisoned through the spoils of war.. they did not discriminate on color.



justice league wrote:And you cant blame ignorance on oppression..... look at the Jews, the most oppressed race in the entirety of history, and yet they maintained the best recorded history of all time.


What you see today in American ghettos is actually the result of white flight from the inner cities, the devastation of drugs in inner cities, the loss of jobs, the breakdown of family, and the residual effects of segregation in America. Not necessarily slavery.


ok, let's talk about ghettos... originally populated by those jews, the Irish and the Italians who have done one hell of a job maintaining and preserving their traditions and beliefs... Why so many blacks moved into the dregs of the inner city workings, I dont know. Black people have no excuse.. that's why they are so ready to point the finger at everyone but themselves. In fact, the majority of blacks who cant get themselves out of their own trappings usually hate the ones who do more than anyone else. I call that blatant jealousy. I have watched Asians buy out SF the worst neighborhoods that blacks have destroyed, and bring up property values and quality of living. How is this phenomena possible? What are the blacks doing wrong? truly.... it is an epidemic.


I really think a lot of Americans need to be educated on the reality of the history of this country. Blacks DID try to get it together, Blacks HAVE gotten it together, and White America has shown that they do not want Blacks gaining power and have acted to subvert these movements. The original Black Wall Street is a perfect example. Blacks being absolutely, inarguably excluded from higher education until more recently is a perfect example. Black schools still suffering from "the quiet bigotry of low expectations" is a perfect example. Who puts those low expectations there? The white teachers for one, white society at large, maybe black parents, who pass on the framing of what society laid out for people of color in the past, taking a realist approach, which definitely does not include an equal education or outlook on life.

All other immigrant groups have survived and gotten over in this country by 'becoming white'. Assimilating into whiteness. Irish did it, Italians did it, Eastern Europeans did it, etc. Now Asians, Indians, Arabs, and Latinos are doing it. All survive by slipping in 'just above' Blacks. There is talk about Japanese in the next twenty years becoming classified as White. Do you understand the underpinnings of that? How Whiteness works, and how Whiteness doesn't include Blackness by default even though Brown and Yellow might be accepted into Whiteness one day? Your talk about "blacks moving into the dregs of inner city workings" is funny. After all the mob and illegal business of the other immigrants. Yet blacks were systematically pushed out of that too.

Isn't it convenient to blame others for their condition while ignoring centuries of history, just so you can rest easier.


COSIGN


And look what happened to the black panthers, Malcolm X, Martin Luther King etc....
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Postby Christina Marie » October 11th, 2007, 9:08 pm

A Ghost wrote:
Christina Marie wrote:
A Ghost wrote:
Christina Marie wrote:Most people dont have the balls to point out, call out the double standards and I will tell you that I am not in the vast majority.


Heck I dont even see the majority of those as double standards, it's simply evening out the playing field, which is still biased today.


If you call "evening out the playing field" saying that there is a GOD GIVEN RIGHT to do and blame whatever the hell you choose because of injustices done to you decades ago then cool.....whatever.


Realizing that history affects the present isnt a cop out.


True, realizing that history affects the present isnt a cop out. Using history as an excuse is.
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Postby Christina Marie » October 11th, 2007, 9:09 pm

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Christina Marie wrote:Your kidding right? You are going to blame whites for that too? Like whites FORCED you to CHOOSE sell out your own people. Now I HAVE heard it all.


Im white Christina


You were talking in the third person and so was I. I know you are white.
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Postby A Ghost » October 11th, 2007, 10:39 pm

Christina Marie wrote:
A Ghost wrote:
Christina Marie wrote:Your kidding right? You are going to blame whites for that too? Like whites FORCED you to CHOOSE sell out your own people. Now I HAVE heard it all.


Im white Christina


You were talking in the third person and so was I. I know you are white.


The internets are confusing :lol:
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Postby Christina Marie » October 11th, 2007, 10:40 pm

A Ghost wrote:
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A Ghost wrote:
Christina Marie wrote:Your kidding right? You are going to blame whites for that too? Like whites FORCED you to CHOOSE sell out your own people. Now I HAVE heard it all.


Im white Christina


You were talking in the third person and so was I. I know you are white.


The internets are confusing :lol:


You told me your white a long time ago
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Postby KINGFEAR62 » October 12th, 2007, 8:08 am

My parents always told me that the main reason black americans don't have anything is they want everything handed to them cuzz there to damn lazy to work for it and its true cuzz most of the black americans I grew up with are just wasting there lives standing around the hood all day. Black americans would rather buy a 400 dolla pair of jeans than save money and move outta the projects so blacks can't blame everything on white people my parents came to america in 1983 with nothing but a dream and now they both have good jobs own a house and never went on any government programs such as welfare and section 8 all black americans care about these days are clothes cars and rap music black americans really need to wake up
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Postby KINGFEAR62 » October 12th, 2007, 8:19 am

And black americans need to stop hating on black immagrints that come here and work hard and make it I remember back when I was a kid all the yankees aka black americans would laugh at me cuzz my family is jamaican and now those same people still live in the projects while my parents own there house and I have a good job,my older brother is in the army and my lil sister is getting str8 a,s in high school most of the black american kids in my area aint doing shyt with there lives
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Postby MiChuhSuh » October 12th, 2007, 9:32 am

KINGFEAR62 wrote:And black americans need to stop hating on black immagrints that come here and work hard and make it I remember back when I was a kid all the yankees aka black americans would laugh at me cuzz my family is jamaican


So far most Africans here in my college seem to get messed with and alienated by black Americans - they get looks like they're from another planet. But most other people don't even bring it up with the accents or anything.

Kinda off topic but I remember one time I asked my friend's dad if he was Jamaican and he got all crazy on us and we had to sit on the sofa a listen to him shout Haitian history and their lineage at both of us for four hours and why I should stop calling his son "Nick" because his "true" name is "Dominique" named after this leader who etc etc etc lol.
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Postby Christina Marie » October 12th, 2007, 10:39 am

KINGFEAR62 wrote:My parents always told me that the main reason black americans don't have anything is they want everything handed to them cuzz there to damn lazy to work for it and its true cuzz most of the black americans I grew up with are just wasting there lives standing around the hood all day. Black americans would rather buy a 400 dolla pair of jeans than save money and move outta the projects so blacks can't blame everything on white people my parents came to america in 1983 with nothing but a dream and now they both have good jobs own a house and never went on any government programs such as welfare and section 8 all black americans care about these days are clothes cars and rap music black americans really need to wake up


Just out of curiosity...what race are you?

Nevermind, I just read your second post.
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Postby justice league » October 12th, 2007, 11:31 pm

MiChuhSuh wrote:
KINGFEAR62 wrote:And black americans need to stop hating on black immagrints that come here and work hard and make it I remember back when I was a kid all the yankees aka black americans would laugh at me cuzz my family is jamaican


So far most Africans here in my college seem to get messed with and alienated by black Americans - they get looks like they're from another planet. But most other people don't even bring it up with the accents or anything.

Kinda off topic but I remember one time I asked my friend's dad if he was Jamaican and he got all crazy on us and we had to sit on the sofa a listen to him shout Haitian history and their lineage at both of us for four hours and why I should stop calling his son "Nick" because his "true" name is "Dominique" named after this leader who etc etc etc lol.



well... there it is.... people with heritage and tradition hanging on to it for all it's worth while over americanized (and I'll be damned; in this story they are black) people doing their best to try and sabotage what makes them unique or "different". What is this world coming to? I am sure some of you will, but how are you gonna blame white people for that?
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Re: Proud To Be White (And it's long over-due.)

Postby SPINN » November 22nd, 2010, 11:17 am

NOTHIN WRONG WITH HAVING WHITE PRIDE -IM WHITE POLISH BORN HERE AMERICAN -THERES SCUM IN EVERY RACE BUT THAT RACE SHT IS PLAYED OUT -THERE WERE -ARE PEOPLE THAT WERE SLAVES THRU OUT HISTORY THATS JUST PART OF THE STRONG TAKE OVER THE WEAK -LOOK WHAT THE NAZIS DID TO OTHER WHITE PEOPLE -BLACKS THAT WANT TO CAN GET AHEAD -NOWADAYS THEY GET BETTER TREATMENT IN CERTAIN TRADE FEILDS THEN WHITES LATINOS SO ALL THAT BULLCRAP AINT NOBODY TRYIN TO HEAR -I WONDER HOW ITS GONNA BE WHEN WHITES ARE THE MINORITTY OR IS IT GONNA BE OK CUZ THATS WHAT THEY GET FOR BEIN RACIST BACK IN THE DAYS -LOL---
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Postby doser » December 14th, 2010, 8:54 am

Cold Bear wrote:I mean all things equal this would be a nice little piece of work... that is, if all things were equal

Just to give example the new stats are out that 2/3rds of crack smokers are white, yet 80% of arrests for crack are black. I mean if I was practically guaranteed an easier ride because of my race maybe I wouldn't be PROUD to be my race I would just be happy I wasn't one of the other ones!


That is flawed. You have to take environment into account. In a neighborhood where the police are called constantly due to violence, theft, etc, anyone participating in criminal activity is going to have a much higher chance of being arrested. On the other hand, if you live in a quiet suburban neighborhood you can get away with doing/selling/buying/manufacturing drugs your whole life if you keep it hush hush. I could smoke crack all day every day, if that was my choice, and because I'm just sitting around my house, I will get away with it.

Yeah and there are "St. Patrick's Day Parade" for Irish Americans, "San Genarro Festival" for Italian Americans, "Columbus Day", "July 4th" - White Americans celebrating freedom from the British, Fox News, the White House, Congress, Homeowner's Associations, Banks, Wall Street, the stock market, Blackwater, pretty much everything else besides the few things mentioned above!


Besides the first two things you mentioned, none of those are specifically for white people. You should also consider that there are black Irish and Italians as well. None of those things are all white. They're American.
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Re: Proud To Be White (And it's long over-due.)

Postby Silencioso » December 15th, 2010, 3:29 pm

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"Black Irish" people are just Irish people with dark hair, they're still white. There's no black Italian people as far as I know.
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Re: Proud To Be White (And it's long over-due.)

Postby doser » December 16th, 2010, 6:25 am

There are blacks everywhere, my man. I know wikipedia isn't always the most reliable source of information but...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italians_of_African_descent
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_people_in_Ireland

The consensus here seems to be that black people only live in ghettos because white oppression doesn't allow otherwise. This is non-sense based upon perception. Many of you seem to have a flawed world view, trusting only what you hear from your people (many of which are quite racist and willfully ignorant). It seems that many also think that skin color is what divides us, rather than considering that the line is drawn between street thugs and working class people. No punk is going to dictate how I live my life, and I know many other whites feel the same.

Don't pull licks in my neighborhood and I don't give a damn who moves in. When you try turning it into a shithole, although, you will be removed one way or another. I don't back down to intimidation.

Respect lasts much longer than fear. There are black families in my neighborhood, which has only existed since the early 70, and they have been here since the first houses were erected. They participate in community garage sales, neighborhood cleanup, neighborhood watch, and hold good jobs. Nobody thinks they're shady. Nobody tries to run them out. No one that I am aware of even looks at them funny. Me, on the other hand....my neighbors (minus the black dudes next door) all give me the stink eye. I keep quite and that is the only thing that secures my place here. They can't look past the black clothes, piercings, and color changing hair, and my lack of participation in the community. In many respects, white boys like me are the new black. We don't benefit from a politically correct belief system, although. It is perfectly alright to hate and discriminate against me. I'm a hippie.

I have said it many times, race means nothing to the modern man. Class means everything. Get in where you fit in, but don't sweat the haters. Showing empathy, forgiveness and respect for life are necessary to the survival of our species. Forget what you think you know and look for the truth.

Turn off your TV. It keeps all this BS alive. The powers that be want us divided, and they use the media to achieve their goals. Order through chaos.
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Re: Proud To Be White (And it's long over-due.)

Postby perongregory » January 31st, 2011, 12:20 am

Due to human BS, and the powers of this country constantly stepping on Black Americans, a great portion of blacks have gone the way of the NA and are lost to a point where they perpetuate the beliefs and habits that destroy them...but hey that's the world. The white man won, he does what he wants, lies, and escapes his blame to put it on others, but soon the Chinese, Indians or some other foreign people will be whipping the common white mans ass and he'll be right there with his black brother. But forget the blacks, what about the NAtives...millions dead, brainwashed and shoved off to reservations, I just look at them and shake my head, since they have no great leader to speak for all of them we easily forget about them and say "oh, yeah... The whites did that to you, you were a noble people" and we forget, but I can't because I think it can happen again, to others, with the means of a contemporary society.
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Re: Proud To Be White (And it's long over-due.)

Postby whiskeyjack » February 25th, 2011, 9:11 pm

But forget the blacks, what about the NAtives...millions dead, brainwashed and shoved off to reservations, I just look at them and shake my head, since they have no great leader to speak for all of them we easily forget about them and say "oh, yeah... The whites did that to you, you were a noble people" and we forget, but I can't because I think it can happen again, to others, with the means of a contemporary society.


Its a bad thing. For example when a metis from Manitoba goes to America and identifies as a metis(Metis is the predominate culture in that province) to the Americans there of the same White/Native mix, the americans there dont know what a metis is. Its not isolated to that either the cajun lifestyle is being pushed aside these days in the age of assimilation too. (Cajuns are french setteles from Acadia moved to liousiana)..... And these peopel are mostly white also

When the Sioux were being exterminated by the American Army they were offered temporary asylum in Canada, but due to political pressure from the American government were forced back to the American Plains to be arrested by the states. (Gotta hand it to the American Army for being pussies killing women and children and the buffalo)....


For example compare the amount of Indian/white wars between Canada and America and you will notice that the majority of battles between the two were actually Metis VS the white settlers. Contact was mostly peaceful because since the beginning France had a very peaceful approach to the Natives of North America. (As evidenced by the huge similarities between Native and French Quebec Culture).

The natives up north in our Territories are given alot of Automony in their own affairs, you will find government sponsered programs that encourage the natives and inuits to continue there cutlure. For example street signs , advertising, television channels in Historic Cree Communities are offered in Cree complete with there alphabit and everything. The inuit languages are official languages of the territories..

Any mineral exploration done in our wilderness cant proceed without consent from the local Native band in the area. This has insured that money and income flow to Northern Communities. We also sport an increasing native population from America that is moving here. Native reserves here provide free health care for its members with money suppklied by the government. Are allowed to regualte the wildlife on their land, and are exempt from the HST.

The company i work for hires natives just the same as they hire white, asians, arabs, and africans. But its mostly whites and natives and everything is great... For example look at the "War of 1812" and you will notice that the majority of Native tribes fought for Canada, which should say something about my country.

Although things arent that peachy the natives of Northern Saskatchewan and some parts of Alberta and manitoba have communities which are openly hostile to anyone (even natives not from the province). I remember going to La Ronge Saskatchewan and i had a my favourite sick as buck knife on me. But the funny thing is that these same people actually identify themselves as Canadians. This speaks alot.

You can actually compare parts of Canada to Mexico because of the predominate Metis/meztizo similarities the two countries share. You will find alot of white people on the reserves in canada, including alot of White looking natives. They 95% of the time have french last names which reflects the history.... We take it here that when Europeans came to canada it was a merging of two cultures that became a new a distinct cultre. Similar to mexico.


Im proud to be Canadian, and you guys should be proud to be Americans(regardless of your colour).
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Re: Proud To Be White (And it's long over-due.)

Postby Christina Marie » February 26th, 2011, 3:43 am

I am not even proud to be human anymore sometimes with some of the things we are apparently capable of much less worry about the color of skin
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Re: Proud To Be White (And it's long over-due.)

Postby Scooby318 » March 16th, 2011, 12:27 pm

Most American institutions were established by whites for whites when this country was founded. All of the religious institutions, social systems, holidays, businesses and corporations to this day are a majority white-owned and run. So to get mad that you don't have a WET, White History Month, affirmative action shows you are ready to disregard ALL of the perks and advantages of being white in America to complain about minorities struggling to get a piece of the American Pie.

Whites complaining about minorities? It's disgusting. :oops:
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