DID THE CENTURIES OF RACISM WEAKEN US OR STRENTHEN US

[DC]

Im over it, are you

[yahyah]

YOU MAYBE OVER IT
BUT YOU HAVE NO POLITIKAL WEIGHT

SO YOU HAVE ONLY AN OPINION
I HAVE A REASON

IF ITS NOT YOUR STRUGGLE THAN STAY OUT OF IT

UNLESS YOU can SPEAK FROM EXPERIENCE
THAN YOU ONLY HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF
WITH MAJOR LAK OF WISDOM

[blackmanofhonor]

DC youre not one of us so for you to say youre over it is irrelevent.This post was directed at black people,I dont even see why you whites have anything to say under this post.Did the centuries of racism weaken ''us'' or strenghten ''us'' the ''us'' is black people,not whites or any other people.Its easy for someone to say they are over it when they arent the ones being affected by it.

[blackmanofhonor]

how about the massacare of 20,000,000 people by stalin, the encampment of jews under hitler, papa doc torturing and massacaring people for no real reason, sadam killing his people and giving them cruel punishments for minor crimes, trujillo killing people in dominican republic and trying to purify it. there are many things worse then slavery of blacks in the 16th century. it was a terrible thing, no doubt, but there were many things worse then it as well.

theres nothing worse than slavery in the USA,I hate when you honkies try to downplay our suffering and make it seem like it wasnt so bad.I would rather be killed then be owned by another human being for life.Let me beat you,rape your wife,sell your kids and keep you chained up like a dog for life and then let me see you honkies say ''oh well there were worse things in history,get over it''.I hate when you motherfuckers say shit like that.

[DC]

Ok, I wont post here anymore, I will leave it to the black folk to whinge and whine about there social injustices.. GET ON WITH YOUR LIFE..

[yahyah]

im black and i hate when blacks be bringing up that slavery shit and all that white man shit. when i hear that all i hear is blah blah blah. this 2005 and all any black man need to focus on is getting they money right and not focus what all black people living in this country never went thru and that is slavery

I GUEST THTS WHY L .A TORE THE CITY UP IN THE RIOTS
YOU HAVE ALL THE MONEY YOU WANT BUT YOU STILL ARE NOT GOING TO BE ALLOWED IN ALL SOCIETIES

GET MONEY DAWG THATS WHATS HOOD
BUT WHEN YOU LEAVE ARE YOUR KIDS GOING TO BENEFIT SOLEY OF THAT ONLY

IF THEY ARE
THEN THE PATH AHEAD IS GOING TO BE THAT MUCH HARDER
WHEN I LEAVE THIS PLANET HOMEBOY
THAT SEED OF SURVIVAL WILL BE PLANTED IN MINE
SO THEY can MAKE IT RICH OR POOR LIKE WE ARE NOW

I AM POOR HOMEBOY TO BE REAL
BUT I AM WEALTHY MY KIDS ARE SMART
AND ARE BEING EQUIPED FOR WHEN I AINT HERE
BY KNOWING THE REALITY OF INDIFFERENCE

AND NEVER FORGET WHERE YOU KAME FROM
OR YOU WON'T KNOW WHERE YOU GOING

I DON'T CHASE MONEY
THATS WHEN IT RUNS

I AINT NO SELFISH PERSON EITHER
BUT I AINT NO BUSTER EITHER
SO I GET RESPECKT EVERYWHERE I GO
FOR THE FACT I'M REAL NOT RICH

[se11]

how about the massacare of 20,000,000 people by stalin, the encampment of jews under hitler, papa doc torturing and massacaring people for no real reason, sadam killing his people and giving them cruel punishments for minor crimes, trujillo killing people in dominican republic and trying to purify it. there are many things worse then slavery of blacks in the 16th century. it was a terrible thing, no doubt, but there were many things worse then it as well.

theres nothing worse than slavery in the USA,I hate when you honkies try to downplay our suffering and make it seem like it wasnt so bad.I would rather be killed then be owned by another human being for life.Let me beat you,rape your wife,sell your kids and keep you chained up like a dog for life and then let me see you honkies say ''oh well there were worse things in history,get over it''.I hate when you motherfuckers say shit like that.

you dont think that happened in other places? jews were starved, robbed, and harassed as well. 20,000,000 people died under ONE leaders rule. 20,000,000!

jews and egyptians were enslaved way before african slavery, and their slavery was just as bad. i am not saying yours wasn't bad, but just know theres worse things that could have happened to you as well.

[purplecityhello]

^^^^ dumbest shit youve said all year

[purplecityhello]

is this nigga serious? ^^^^I hate when white people say stupid shit like "okay slavery is over, why dont these blacks get themselves together? they dont want to work. they are lazy, and criminal. I work everyday and I suceed in this country why cant they do the same? we are all the same today."

shut your mouth with that stupid, brain-washed shit. Son, you sittin on a platform that I built with the blood and sweat of my black hands. YOUR amerikkka was built by the slave. Is that a fact you want to conviently blot out your memory?

if you steal and rob YESTERDAY
you may get locked up TODAY
and sentenced to prison TOMORROW

us, the children of slaves, and they - the children of slave masters have inherited what your parents have passed on to you. we are beneficiaries "economically","attitudunally", "politically", and "socially" as are whites. we inherited the consequential after-effects of centuries of mental,emotional, and physical abuse, while our white counterparts are directly benefiting today from the suffering of our people yesterday.

the white people we compete with today have started off this race many laps and leaps ahead of the game in front of you, while we have started off many laps behind the game in handicapped conditions of injury. And yet all those redneck perckerwoods are still afraid to run against my greatness.

As a RESULT of slavery blacks have inherited STRESS, INFERIORITY, SELF-HATE, INSANITY, and AUTOMATIC SOCIAL CONDEMNATION --- YES today is effected by YESTERDAY... youre really a waste of my time homie

Black man let me talk to you instead, Yes, I know that you are a successful doctor today, yet imagine what you could have been if your family tree was not virtually destroyed? If youre life was "uninterrupted", by the destructive effects of slavery, you could have been a doctor at 18 years old! you dont know TRUE success, and you dont know your true unobstructed potential. Think about that deeply. Reflect.

But even with obstruction we persist, prevail, and suceed to this day...despite the opposition...there, is a hinting sign of your greatness.People dont dwell in the past but never forget nor disrespect your past. It is the compass by which you navigate your future

YOU are NO DIFFERENT than the people who lived and died on the plantation...you are the same seeds to earth, in different seasons
(Thank you Akil for the knowledge of self)

MAYBE YA NEED TO READ THIS AGAIN --- this nigga DC says get over it like it was some lil shit that lasted a month --- you cant fanthom what CENTURIES are

[se11]

^^^^ dumbest shit youve said all year

why is it dumb because it portray slavery as being not the worst thing in history?

[purplecityhello]

ya niggas be talking like ya can relate , thats the shit that gets me - dont pretend to know if u have NO idea

[se11]

what do you know about being in a concentration camp, starved, and then having 20,000,000 of your people killed?

[se11]

also with the whole "ya niggas be talkin like ya can relate". you can relate to being a slave and working on a plantation as much as i can relate to being in a concentration camp, which is none. your not a slave, your parents were slaves, get over the slavery thing. racism is another issue, but the slave thing is done. there are no more white slave owners. you say i have NO idea, but neither do YOU. you werent a slave you can not relate. YOU can relate to white on black racism, but not slavery.

[purplecityhello]

do you?^^^^^^^ i speak on what I do know. You talk like centuries of slavery had no effect on the country we live in today - IT BUILT THE COUNTRY WE LIVE IN TODAY. point blank

Like i said - use the past to move into the future. its ignorant to disrespect the events that got us here. But ya dont care and i dont expect you too - but dont try to accomplish anything by talking about jews thousands of miles away or niggas in egypt thousands of years ago --- it had NO effect on me but guess what did. That fucking half a millenia of forced labor, torture, and misery. I dont expect you to understand

[blackmanofhonor]

Millions of africans died just on the passage to america on the slave ships.How would you feel stuffed in the bottom of a ship,in flaming heat,shackled down,covered in feces and urine,and all around you there are children,men and women crying and yelling.Then when you get to your new land you are nothing but property.so your treatment is up to the sicko who buys you.


you all do nothing but disrespect and anger us by coming on here and telling us to get over it and bringing up what happened to other people.The person who started this forum asked blacks a specific question,then we have honkies coming in here and giving thier unwanted opinions.Just shut the fuck up,this isnt for nor about you so you shouldnt even comment under this thread.

[purplecityhello]

is this nigga serious? ^^^^I hate when white people say stupid shit like "okay slavery is over, why dont these blacks get themselves together? they dont want to work. they are lazy, and criminal. I work everyday and I suceed in this country why cant they do the same? we are all the same today."

shut your mouth with that stupid, brain-washed shit. Son, you sittin on a platform that I built with the blood and sweat of my black hands. YOUR amerikkka was built by the slave. Is that a fact you want to conviently blot out your memory?

if you steal and rob YESTERDAY
you may get locked up TODAY
and sentenced to prison TOMORROW

us, the children of slaves, and they - the children of slave masters have inherited what your parents have passed on to you. we are beneficiaries "economically","attitudunally", "politically", and "socially" as are whites. we inherited the consequential after-effects of centuries of mental,emotional, and physical abuse, while our white counterparts are directly benefiting today from the suffering of our people yesterday.

the white people we compete with today have started off this race many laps and leaps ahead of the game in front of you, while we have started off many laps behind the game in handicapped conditions of injury. And yet all those redneck perckerwoods are still afraid to run against my greatness.

As a RESULT of slavery blacks have inherited STRESS, INFERIORITY, SELF-HATE, INSANITY, and AUTOMATIC SOCIAL CONDEMNATION --- YES today is effected by YESTERDAY... youre really a waste of my time homie

Black man let me talk to you instead, Yes, I know that you are a successful doctor today, yet imagine what you could have been if your family tree was not virtually destroyed? If youre life was "uninterrupted", by the destructive effects of slavery, you could have been a doctor at 18 years old! you dont know TRUE success, and you dont know your true unobstructed potential. Think about that deeply. Reflect.

But even with obstruction we persist, prevail, and suceed to this day...despite the opposition...there, is a hinting sign of your greatness.People dont dwell in the past but never forget nor disrespect your past. It is the compass by which you navigate your future

YOU are NO DIFFERENT than the people who lived and died on the plantation...you are the same seeds to earth, in different seasons
(Thank you Akil for the knowledge of self)

MAYBE YA NEED TO READ THIS AGAIN --- this nigga DC says get over it like it was some lil shit that lasted a month --- you cant fanthom what CENTURIES are

GET IT IN YOUR HEADS - WHITE PEOPLE AND BLACK DEVILS ARE STEADY SAYING DUMB SHIT LIKE 'GET OVER IT". THE ONLY ONLY ONLY WAY I CAN GET OVER IT IS IF IT -----DIDNT----EFFECT ME TODAY. BUT GUESS WHAT - AS A RESULT OF SLAVERY THERE I AM (YA NIGGAS STILL AINT READING MY POST- IS IT TOO LONG 4 YOU OR SUMTIN?)

IM DONE

[blackmanofhonor]

also with the whole "ya niggas be talkin like ya can relate". you can relate to being a slave and working on a plantation as much as i can relate to being in a concentration camp, which is none. your not a slave, your parents were slaves, get over the slavery thing. racism is another issue, but the slave thing is done. there are no more white slave owners. you say i have NO idea, but neither do YOU. you werent a slave you can not relate. YOU can relate to white on black racism, but not slavery.

se11 just shut the fuck up and leave this thread alone,the question was asked to blacks so why are you even giving your opinions on here?

[se11]

do you?^^^^^^^ i speak on what I do know. You talk like centuries of slavery had no effect on the country we live in today - IT BUILT THE COUNTRY WE LIVE IN TODAY. point blank

Like i said - use the past to move into the future. its ignorant to disrespect the events that got us here. But ya dont care and i dont expect you too - but dont try to accomplish anything by talking about jews thousands of miles away or niggas in egypt thousands of years ago --- it had NO effect on me but guess what did. That #%@&#%@ half a millenia of forced labor, torture, and misery. I dont expect you to understand

yo just admit you dont give two shits about anyone elses misery, but black peoples. the jews build practically all of the pyramids and ancient buildings. one time there fucked. then again, 2000 years later, they are slaughtered, starved, and killed, again. just because it doesnt happen in america doesnt mean you should ignore it, like you are clearly doing.

[blackmanofhonor]

just stfu and let us discuss this amongst ourselves.damn

[se11]

also with the whole "ya niggas be talkin like ya can relate". you can relate to being a slave and working on a plantation as much as i can relate to being in a concentration camp, which is none. your not a slave, your parents were slaves, get over the slavery thing. racism is another issue, but the slave thing is done. there are no more white slave owners. you say i have NO idea, but neither do YOU. you werent a slave you can not relate. YOU can relate to white on black racism, but not slavery.

se11 just shut the fu-- up and leave this thread alone,the question was asked to blacks so why are you even giving your opinions on here?

do YOU know what it was like to be a slave? my point exactly. jesus christ get over the slavery thing. racism is different, but slvaery is done. slaves have built many civilizations and built things in history but you dont care because there not black.

[blackmanofhonor]

this thread is for black americans,about black americans.Can we at least talk about ourselves without you honkies commenting?

[se11]

go ahead feel bad for yourselvs some more im done interfeering.

[blackmanofhonor]

wtf does egypt or jews have to do with black americans?

[Anonymous20]

We all know the racism in America but what about middle-eastern racism and all the blacks there? How come you don't hear much come out from there about reparations and all. I'm reading Arabian Nights for fun and it's really crazy to see how much 'racism' there really is even in their culture all while being muslims (for those who think being muslim is the original black religion, ??). It's like I haven't once read where a black man isn't a slave or used to describe something as black or he's a bad guy, dark = bad; white = good and that's all in popular culture since the stories in the book def show a close look at the culture. I was even talking to a moroccan friend for fun the other day and he told me about a family who kicked their daughter out coz she wanted to stay with a black guy. Or even what about the blacks down in South America, I'm sure it's not everywhere but the girl I used to go out with, she was Colombian, and her mother would sometimes ask me for fun if I'd go out with a black girl. I would say yea, if I love her yea and she'd look at me with those weird eyes like if it were abnormal. So bottom line, what's up with all those other places in the world where racism in their culture is older than the founding of America. It's like the modern day racism we only hear about is white on black and we're forgetting how big really the subject is. You speak of centuries, really it could go even further than centuries. The arrival of Africans to America and the slavery there lasted centuries. But in Africa itself, the slaves coming from Africa came from close to Nortern Africa and like I said, there's racism in their culture too and even many Africans who were brought to America were owned by other black slave masters as well. So it even black slavery goes even further back than centuries, it's just that I think that's the slavery that's the freshest so it's all based on that and the other aspects of the other types of racism throughout history that was practiced on black people is kind of forgotten. Whites didn't invent anything with slavery, neither did Arabs either I believe, the real story goes way deeper and in the end it's maybe not as logically as we'd like it to be so that you can then ask for reparations for these few people as if it were that easy. But to the question if racism either weakened or strenthened, I don't believe there's nothing new under the sun. Slavery has always existed and it's been practiced on every people throughout the past. About the hypocrit racism practiced though as for example in jobs or that type of shit, I believe that's just plain wrong but I have to come down to the conclusion that it's not new at all. Maybe that's why trying to build a tower of Babel where everybody is correct and the same no matter their color, language, etc can't exist and racism'll just exist everywhere someway or the other. Just remember man, nothing is new under the sun and the sun goes way back. I'd like to know what you guys think about this, well you guys as in blacks living in America. Do you care about that or you see that truth as having nothing to do with what you are claiming? For example, imagine if the blacks had finally had their own land they could govern, like a black nation that America would've given them (in a perfect world) and the country is all run by descendants of black slaves. Wouldn't racism then be practiced inside of that land itself whereas blacks would naturally benefit blacks over whites that lived there? I mean how would racism ever be truly erased? It's practiced everywhere and old as fuck. I don't know but just like everything else I've lived in life, I just tell myself most of the time, c'est la vie, and see things one thing after the other. I know not all persons of a certain country are not all that way, and even among my own people, there's many I don't like. I just see every person as I meet them and that's that. It's really a hard subject coz it's the kind of thing where everybody has to look in their deeper most selves and realize that that beast is inside every one of us, sleeping somewhere, so how can you correct something like that with laws, different countries, you know. It's like, I understand why the people were confused after God made em speak different languages and created differences so they couldn't build a tower of babel. And that's still in effect today as we speak and try to find a 'solution' to racism when it's been practiced since god knows when..

[blackmanofhonor]

lol@honkies telling a black man "Im over it are you?''.Yall some dirty rotten motherfuckas man straight up.If theres any rightchousness in the universe you devils will pay.One day you will pay.

[purplecityhello]

do you believe all this shit you spat? Slavery had existed in Africa since ancient times, as it had in many other parts of the world. In Africa, slaves were often people captured in war. Others were people who sold themselves into slavery for food and shelter during drought or famine. Sometimes a society took slaves in order to increase its population. In time, many slaves were absorbed into their new societies.
The transatlantic slave trade was very different front African slavery. Africans were forced to leave their own societies and were shipped thousands of miles across the Atlantic. In the Americas, they faced a completely unfamiliar culture. . .

[Anonymous20]

I'm not trying to convince anyone here with what I wrote. My people didn't own any slaves and were labour slaves themselves to the English up here. I just want to know what you think. What I mean is what do you think of the black slavery/racism practiced by arabs, from Morocco to Saudia Arabia and it's in their culture as in their story books like I said. It's like many people are just trying to categorize pepole or find easier ways to solve the problem of racism as if it were that easy. People think blacks in Africa all came from the same place, lived in the same conditions whereas there were no slave masters AND slaves, differences among the people themselves. Just look at the genocides in Rwanda, Soudan, just cause we hear about them today doesn't mean that shady shit didn't happen in that part of Africa back in the days and everybody was nice. Slavery existed everywhere and so did dirt and shady shit out of hate or owning. But about where you said blacks faced a completely unfamiliar culture, do you think being a slave and serving people like a SLAVE in Africa was easier to them just cause the person they fell to their knees for was black. You tihnk the guy didn't hit, beat up and see slaves as stock worth $ or matter? Just like in arab culture, man I'm reading these things about slaves (ALWAYS being black in these stories) and they're seen as nothing more slaves, when the guy's a bad guy they just cut him up or he only does slave stuff here and there with no big role. And that in children stories, stories that were told in public place for ages. So what about the blacks there? Man, I'm not trying to put down anybody here, I'm just asking myself questoins out loud instead of kissing ass blindly so you guys can speak on it. I'm concious of how blacks were/are dealed with in America and I'm def against that. I just want to know what you tihnk of the other things I spoke on without holding on to the trigger for easy blasting coz I spoke on unusual things we don,t hear about as if it's to weaken what blacks in America are fighting for... I'm all for justice, but seriously, what MAN can truly bring justice? you know?

[se11]

lol@honkies telling a black man "Im over it are you?''.Yall some dirty rotten motherfuckas man straight up.If theres any rightchousness in the universe you devils will pay.One day you will pay.

like i said im done. because a racist black man called me the devil im so offended now, i dont know how i can live with myself. like i said im done discussing here.

[blackmanofhonor]

Im not racist I just hate people with your mentality.

[Anonymous20]

Reparations for Slavery?
http://africanhistory.about.com/library ... 40901a.htm

The Role of Islam in African Slavery
http://africanhistory.about.com/library ... 40201b.htm

[Anonymous20]

About if centuries of racism weakened or strengthened blacks in America, wouldn't you guys instead say it makes you guys who you are today, with all the afro cultural background it has brought you and that is rightfully yours as music (gospel, blues, rnb, roots coming from singing in the fields), arts, but as well as the bad effects of poverty/underprivileged in that society which brought that afro pimp culture and all that shit but to survive even today? Like you can't have bad without the good and you can't have the good without the bad like with all things? It's just is? I mean, do you guys strictly see the bad things or you see some good out of it and see life as it is as a whole in the present? Coz I'm thinking for example, like with all people struggling wherever they're at, you notice that most things that come from the soul and that don't need $ start to be seen as treasures, just like music and to people who live off things like that not being materialistic because of the situation where they're in and people are happy like that. What do you think? Man, I'm just a curious guy haha I got a load of black friends, haitians, africans but I want to know what a true black living in everyday America thinks of these things because that history is yours and even though I live up here I haven't ever been to the US before myself to see what it is (I have traveled in many other countries though and lived in Morocco 6 years of my childhood). Like, aren't you proud of all that afro cultural background that's yours today exactly because of what your people went through or you see everything as disgusting and don't really appreciate everyday life one day at a time?

[purplecityhello]

what?^^^^