Interracial Dating or Marriage

These concepts are socially constructed and have been given much weight. What are your thoughts?

Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby Kemosave » August 3rd, 2004, 12:58 pm

I'm just sharing the truth. You haven't been able to refute a single point. Don't live in denial. Lecture us on the mythology that black people are members of the tribe of Shabazz and the original race of humans that came to the Earth 66 trillion years ago, and that white people were the result of an experiment performed by the evil scientist Yakub 6000 years ago. You can't refute it. It's Nation of Islam doctrine. So enlighten me. I want to hear if your as crazy as your leader. I await.
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby Common Sense » August 3rd, 2004, 1:06 pm

Michelledope wrote:I'm fine with interacial dating. I prefer from all sorts of ethnic backrounds, I'm not a minger either, Acme white breed. :)


What was surprising to me in the UK..was the amount of Asian women dating or married to non Asian men. Is the British Asian culture loosing up or is melting into Bristish society.
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby Common Sense » August 3rd, 2004, 1:26 pm

Here is a intersting spin on interacial marriage.

INTERACIAL MARRIAGE & CHRISTIANITY/THE BIBLE

http://www.christianadvice.net/interacial_marriage.htm
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby G bka C.rum » August 3rd, 2004, 5:19 pm

Kemosave wrote:I see from your statement that you don't know what the real facts are concerning Christianity. It's about reality not fiction plain and simple. Choose what you believe to be a fact and let's discuss it.



What real facts about Christianity it all lies. Tell me were Christ said keep my Christianity. All thru ought the bible God clearly said he gave us laws statutes and commandments. Lev.22;31 1st Jn 2;3. Christ said if thou love me Keep my commandments Jhn.14;15 not my chritianity,Catholism which is where everyone knows mainstream christianity stemmed from, and that false religion of pediphile priest says a priest cannot marry why does 1st Tim.3;2 say a bishop(that is what those demonic priest call themselves right?)must be the husband of one wife? Yet they say he cant marry!! Sounds like falsehood to me. And we know if the tree is corrupt so is its fruit. Where did Christ celebrate these false holidAYS like Christmas which Jer.10;1-5 condemns yet Christianity teaches to celebrate this Babylonian custom and lie and say its Christ birthday when Lk.2;41-42 states he was born around the Passover. Why does Christianity say the law is done away with? What is sin then? 1st Jhn.3;4 the law is in the 1st 5 books of moses isnt it? The only law that was done awy with is the law of sacrifice but christianity teaches all the laws are done away with just believe in Jeeeeeesussss we're under grace then why does the Apostle Paul say in Rom.6;1-2 shall we continue to sin, that grace is abound? 2 God forbid(meaning no). Rom.3;31 Do we make void the law through faith? God forbid: Yea we establish(keep) the law. So what are these fake pulpit pimps that you call Christian preachers,ministers,evangelst talkin about? Theyre lying to the people and are gonna get many people sent to hell with theyre wicked azzez. I know all about the history of this false Christianity which Constitine imposed about 314 A.D by mixing Pagen beliefs in with the true word of God. Tell that to your pork-chop eating priest while hes having rib-offs in the church totally going against Lev.11;7 I got plenty more I can point out but ima see if you can answer these questions 1st. So again what makes Farrakan so much different from these Christian Leaders who are stealing Gods words and getting rich off the Masses by lying to them?
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby George » August 4th, 2004, 7:33 am

I've seen a Oriental guy (Vietnamese i think) with a Black Female (Guyanese) in Toronto Canada.

They looked cute and i didn't have a problem with them. I'm half Asian myself and i am not ashamed.

All you "Islam" fanatics or whoever should stop hiding behind your Religious views and be the racist you really are.

Stop quoting verses and passages to mask your hate and disregard towards us mix children in this world.

YOu don't even know how many of those females on t.v you oogle so much over are mixed themselves.

Examples= Amerie (BEAUTIFUL woman of Korean/Black mix)

Naiomi Campbell (Beautiful woman of Jamaican Black/Chinese mix)

Foxxy Brown (Sexy gal with Trini/Asian mix)

Kelis (BEautiful honey with Black/Chinese/Korean? mix)

Kimora Lee Simons (YOU already know her mix, if not well here it is: Koreon and Black!)

also one of the guys from Bone Thugs and Harmony is half Vietnamese and half Black. I forget who but he's light, very skinny with cornrows. He's the one with high cheek bones. The ladies always blush when they see his face.

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SO if you think people like us are "unpure" "unclean" and lesser than you, well you all should go join Adolf in hell and others like him!!!!
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby NYorker » August 4th, 2004, 10:50 am

D.X. wrote:
nyorker, your whole understanding of Islam is wrong, where did you learn your info from?

How do you know what my understanding of Islam is or is not? Please show me a quote where I was wrong about Islam.

D.X. wrote:As far as those leaders who you named, it was none of there choice to be mix-raced, and because they are mixed, doesn't mean that It is ok to be with white women or any other race. If we traced our roots back, I'm sure we all mixed, but how did this happen? WAS IT BY FORCE???

It's no-one's choice as to what race they are born into. None of the race mixing in my family for at least 7 generations has been by FORCE. I say 7 generations because that's how far back I have traced. I am sure this is true with a lot of people as well. Why is it not ok to be with white women or women of another race? What's wrong with a mulatto or afro-mexican, or afro-asian? These people make up a large population in the world today. As I said before many of your heroes are one of the aforementioned.

D.X. wrote:Anyway, It doesnt surprise my that you have your view on mix-couples because you said on another post that your are mixed and have a beautiful white woman, I know why exactly you are sensitive to this issue, you have one yourself, I understand your postion clearly.

I am not really sensitive to the issue, I just speak my opinion on it. Am I more biased towards it......hell yeah. I am glad I am mixed I would never want to change it for the world. I am proud of my African, European, Carribean, and American Indian heritage. I was raised that way by BOTH sides of my family.

D.X. wrote: I'm sure all of you who are for mix couples have had or has a white girl or other. Of course you agree on mixing, but remember, don't think the old days are over, you still can't go anywhere with your barbie doll on your arms, and you all know this is true!!

You can't go everywhere in the black community with your Nubian queen on YOUR arm and be safe everywhere........and you can't say that is not true either.

D.X. wrote:Remember white folk killed us for even "LOOKING" at their woman, and I honestly, that's one thing I agree with them on, they protected their women, we need to be the same way with our sisters, but we let anybody run up in here, white folk killed for their women.

So now you are agreeing with the "devil" that he should have killed us for just looking at his women? Now you want to kill anybody that's not black for looking at YOUR women? It sounds like you want to appease the white man by not mixing with his women. Why do you think the WN whiteman is so against and afraid of "race mixing"? Because he knows by sheer numbers his race (however "pure" that race may be) will be no more and that there would be more "muds" to fight against him. Now looking at it that way....if you are so anti-white you would figure you'd want to encourage "race mixing".

D.X. wrote:Oh, we don't worship those you named, those are men(flesh), but a couple of those you named are backed by Allah(God) himself, and that can't be disputed!!!

I was wrong with the use of "worship" as to what you and your commrades feel about those leaders. I forgot how to spell revere(sp) and that's what I meant. As far as them being backed by Allah(God).......well that's your belief, some may also believed they are backed by the devil. As for me.........I have no feeling toward them either way. I thought Message to the Black Man was an excellent book and had some great points. I mainly respect the black muslims for having balls to stand up for themselves(In Malcolm's time) against police brutality and other injustices. I like the fact that they supported starting their own businesses. It may surprise you that I have even been to one of the late Khalid Abdul Muhammad's speeches and even "ushered" for it and actually even discussed it with him.
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby G bka C.rum » August 4th, 2004, 2:48 pm

Im still waiting on a response Kemo!!!!
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby Michelle » August 4th, 2004, 3:57 pm

Common Sense wrote:Well that's kool Michelledope. What other races have you dated?

When I was in London 3 weeks ago.. there were so many different types of ethnic groups that's not so common in California. Is there much mixing in the U.K.?

I saw a few African nationals with English women.


One of my boyfriend's was half filipina and half italian and black or mixed black. My parents are fine with this, infact, it's not an issue. I don't believe I would ever choose a partner with a primary consideration being their racial/ethnic background. Ridiculous. If you're not compatible with the person you're with, there is very little point putting in the effort regardless of who they are.

Common Sense wrote:When I was in London 3 weeks ago.. there were so many different types of ethnic groups that's not so common in California. Is there much mixing in the U.K.?


North London is the most concentrated area, particularly North London, it is very ethnicly diverse compared to the outer city. The more urban the area the more interracial relationships ofocurse (goes without saying). All the white woman I know with kids from mixed ethnicity are from places like Hackney (hehe) I'm not too sure in the rise of asian/interracial relationships, although I know it is more common among asian woman, or so I've seen. :?

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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby Kemosave » August 4th, 2004, 4:32 pm

G bka C.rum wrote:Im still waiting on a response Kemo!!!!
And you will have to wait longer. I am not ignoring you. I will reply to your post. Thank you for your patience.
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby G bka C.rum » August 5th, 2004, 6:48 pm

Its cool Kemo because you wont be able to answer. Because what they're teaching is lies.
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby 'X' » August 5th, 2004, 9:03 pm

G bka C.rum wrote:Its cool Kemo because you wont be able to answer. Because what they're teaching is lies.


LOL^^^
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby shadoworder » August 6th, 2004, 4:56 am

There are also a great many of people that are mixed race that are great achievers from the Egyptian civilization, Harappa/Indus Valley Culture, Sumerians, Etruscans, Minoans, Greeks, Romans, Europeans, and Americans and the list can go on.

out of curiousity,which "greeks,romans,europeans"are you referring to??
do you mean in ancient times??
and keep in mind,that you are all putting too much emphasis on "race"and not enough on culture/ethnicity.just because someone is racially mixed,does not mean that they will define themselves as such.what i mean is,someone who has an asian parent,and a white parent,may define themselves exclusively as asian,if they identify with,and feel that they are part of that community,more then the white one.you can mix and blur the color line,but you will never be able to get rid of culture and ethnic groups and languages,and the history that goes with that.people by nature will always define themselves as being one thing(black american,for ex.),then being many things at once (black,indian,german,japanese american,for ex.)
and b/c they identify with,and define themselves by one culture/ethnicity,they will want to preserve it.and race will usually play a role in that
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby Kemosave » August 6th, 2004, 9:59 am

Hey fellas,

Keep your pistols in their holsters. I've only had 1/2 hour to work on the reply so far but am making excellent progress. When you have as many responsibilities as I do, you stay pretty busy all hours. I'm a pull it together for you. It's funny you think their are no right answers when I'm sitting here looking at lots of them. Don't understand your closed minds. Anyway, enjoy your weekend. I'll work on it this weekend.
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby Common Sense » August 13th, 2004, 8:41 am

During the 90's it was popular for some white girls to date black guys especially if he looked like a thug or dressed like a gangsta rapper.

It was like a novelty thang. Yo MTV raps was booming...everybody wanted to jump on board..I guess??

I've also met some white girls that dated and dressed like chola's and adopted the ESE style. Even to the point of speaking broken english with a latino accent.
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby fistfullofboomstick » August 13th, 2004, 10:16 am

im all for it, doesnt matter much to me, i got plenty of mixes in me, and im dating a girl that is half black and half spanish. o, and to you guys speaking bout christianity, u dont kno what ur talkin about, stick to what you know
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby hyjinx » August 13th, 2004, 10:40 am

Common Sense wrote:During the 90's it was popular for some white girls to date black guys especially if he looked like a thug or dressed like a gangsta rapper.

It was like a novelty thang. Yo MTV raps was booming...everybody wanted to jump on board..I guess??

I've also met some white girls that dated and dressed like chola's and adopted the ESE style. Even to the point of speaking broken english with a latino accent.


When I was in school in Utah in the mid-80s lots of white girls were dating black guys. It may have been the setting ... a Job Corps center where some people were there voluntarily and some were sent by the courts, with a ration of about 20 to 1 in favor of the girls. But regardless there were some definate long term relationships going on and at least one marriage that I was aware of.

I've never dated a black guy, but that's personal taste, nothing to do with race. I was an "80s rocker chick" so I had a thing for guys with long blonde hair that were into heavy metal...not too many black guys I've seen that fit that description.

I honestly believe though that as long as two people get along, treat each other right, enjoy each other's company and whatever else it takes for a relationship, then more power to them.

And to add to the list (since I only saw females mentioned) .. Lenny Kravitz is half black and half white as well. He's also one of the few that I know of that comes from a black woman with a white man. And that story is sort of funny in and of itself. Roxy Roker played a black woman married to a white man on the Jeffersons, but did you know she was originally turned down for the role because the moron that was casting didn't think she could pull off the part? Until she whipped out a picture of her real life husband.
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby Common Sense » August 13th, 2004, 11:06 am

^^^The girls I was speaking were hooking up with these guys over image vs. "Hey I think your a nice guy".

It's the same thing as a Black guy sayin' "I only date white women"

As far as celebrity's...there are alot of interacial couples out there.

Taye Diggs and Idina Menzel

Aisha Taylor and Jeff Tietjens

Wayne and Mandie Brady

Derek Luke and Sophie Hernandez

Kobe and Vanessa Bryant

To name a few (if there still together)
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby Common Sense » August 13th, 2004, 11:23 am

I think alot of people are attracted to others outside of their race, but won't admit it.

People are just curious about what's on the other side. I find this to be more acceptable with people who are active daters. They have no problems dating or shortage of business within their own group. These people tend to get bored with the status quo. More willing to try something else.

People who tend not to get any love or attention from the opposite sex within their group, tend to be more upset when they see one of their own off with an outsider. Especially if he/she is very attractive.


Behind close doors and under secret circumstances...I believe everyone will go there and cross the line. People are crossing the same sex gender line in Prison everyday.

My favorite story is about how Strom Thurmond crossed the line back when it was definetly un cool to do so. He just had to get him some of that.....LOL.
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby Conman » August 13th, 2004, 12:45 pm

Common Sense wrote:My favorite story is about how Strom Thurmond crossed the line back when it was definetly un cool to do so. He just had to get him some of that.....LOL.

^^^LOL
I personally, find sexiness and beauty in all women, I just prefer the sisters..:D They have the physical attributes and attitude that keeps me addicted..

As I said earlier, I don't see anything wrong with getting sex from outside of your race but marrying and having kids is different.

Those that date only outside their race usually have something wrong with them....an identity crisis or insecurity of some kind. Have you noticed that the majority of those Black guys that date only white girls act white :? I mean, it is as if they don't like their own skin.....

Don't get me wrong, I know plenty brothers that just want to hit a white girl since they will do everyyyyyyything..lol..for the $, or simply as status (got a few pennies so now I will have the Snowprincess on my arm)...LOLOL.

Again to each his own, the more brothers getting at snowprincess, the more sisters for me.
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby hyjinx » August 13th, 2004, 2:35 pm

Conman wrote:Don't get me wrong, I know plenty brothers that just want to hit a white girl since they will do everyyyyyyything..lol..for the $, or simply as status (got a few pennies so now I will have the Snowprincess on my arm)...LOLOL.


A friend of mine told me once that he dated white girls cuz they would put up with his shit where a black girl woulda told him to hit the bricks. As much as i hate to admit it, I see that as bein true. White girls will, on the average, put up with a LOT more shit than a black girl will. I dunno what that's all about, but damn it's sad...LOL
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby fistfullofboomstick » August 13th, 2004, 2:57 pm

yeh man thats true too, ive dated white, black, spanish, asian, and white girls derfinitely put up with sooo much shit, u can do whatever and they will just do whatever to keep ur ass, where as a lot of black girls will just tell me to fuck off if i do or say sumthin bad (who knows maybe its cuz im white LOL)
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby BABY_LOCS » August 15th, 2004, 12:24 pm

NAH I HAVE NEVER DATED A GUY WHO WASNT MEXICAN AND I DONT WANT TO EITHER...BUT THATS JUST ME..U KNOW, I DONT MEAN TO OFFEND ANYBODY BUT I PREFER MY RACE.
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby buck » August 15th, 2004, 12:52 pm

BABY_LOCS wrote:NAH I HAVE NEVER DATED A GUY WHO WASNT MEXICAN AND I DONT WANT TO EITHER...BUT THATS JUST ME..U KNOW, I DONT MEAN TO OFFEND ANYBODY BUT I PREFER MY RACE.



I guess that pic in your profile has to do with your username instead of it being you.
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby BABY_LOCS » August 15th, 2004, 1:00 pm

UMM..HAHA NAH THATS NOT ME..THATS THE CHICANO RAPPER LIL ROB...LMAO..IMA GIRL
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby buck » August 15th, 2004, 1:03 pm

lol ok my fault.
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby BABY_LOCS » August 15th, 2004, 1:07 pm

ITS OK I CAN SEE WHY YOU GOT CONFUSED
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby Storm » August 16th, 2004, 12:45 am

Michelledope wrote:
Common Sense wrote:Well that's kool Michelledope. What other races have you dated?

When I was in London 3 weeks ago.. there were so many different types of ethnic groups that's not so common in California. Is there much mixing in the U.K.?

I saw a few African nationals with English women.


One of my boyfriend's was half filipina and half italian and black or mixed black. My parents are fine with this, infact, it's not an issue. I don't believe I would ever choose a partner with a primary consideration being their racial/ethnic background. Ridiculous. If you're not compatible with the person you're with, there is very little point putting in the effort regardless of who they are.

Common Sense wrote:When I was in London 3 weeks ago.. there were so many different types of ethnic groups that's not so common in California. Is there much mixing in the U.K.?


North London is the most concentrated area, particularly North London, it is very ethnicly diverse compared to the outer city. The more urban the area the more interracial relationships ofocurse (goes without saying). All the white woman I know with kids from mixed ethnicity are from places like Hackney (hehe) I'm not too sure in the rise of asian/interracial relationships, although I know it is more common among asian woman, or so I've seen. :?

EDITED for clarification.

To throw my 2 cents/3 pence in.

Common - when you say asian - it depends if you're meaning Indian and Pakistani women - who very rarely date outside their colour lines (look up 'honour killings' on the 'net and you'll come up with what some families will do if they do), or 'asian' as in Thai,Japanese, Malay,Chinese etc where 'interracial' dating/marriage isn't unusual, possibly because the UK doesn't have many places other than the larger cities like London and Manchester with large concentrations of asian people. Also being an older country in some ways (and unfortunately only in some) we're a little more integrated than the US. This may also though have something to do with the old colonial mindset - where aisan people were looked at as 'exotic' and black people as 'savages' (I'm not condoning the view - just speculating).

I work in London and live 'out of town' and have to travel a lot for my work (very polite way of saying I get around I guess ) and interracial dating and marriage is getting a lot more common out of London - I think especially in the UK people are getting more used to it - though I know of a couple of extreme reactions ( one of my adopted brother's has been with his white G/f -now wife- for over 8 years but they still get the comments every so often).

I am white, my parents have never had a problem with me dating outside 'colour lines' at the end of the day as Michelle said if you're compatible with someone skin tone doesn't come into it......and no before anyone says it I'm not a minger/huffamoose either!

Fistfull - what you will 'put up with' from a guy tends to depend on how much you value yourself, I dont #think# that has anything to do with skin colour - but I could be wrong. Do white girls have lower self esteem ? - now there's a whole new line of thought.
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby Common Sense » August 16th, 2004, 8:08 am

Storm:

That's exactly what I was referring to Asians of Indian and Pakistan descent. That's why I was so fascinated. The further out of London the less I saw it, except for Coventry for some reason. Then again, it could have been because I just wasn't around at the right time.
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby Storm » August 18th, 2004, 3:44 am

Common Sense wrote:Storm:

That's exactly what I was referring to Asians of Indian and Pakistan descent. That's why I was so fascinated. The further out of London the less I saw it, except for Coventry for some reason. Then again, it could have been because I just wasn't around at the right time.


I think it seems to depend where you go, the attitudes of the community and also how strict the family is ( which is often linked into the attitudes of the community) - I have family from the North of England and have seen it in Bradford, Manchester and Newcastle and in parts of London - but as well there seems to be a line drawn by religion ( I stress this is generalisation) in that those Asians in in interracial relationships tend to be from Sikh and Hindu families rather than from Muslim ones.

General question - If you wont consider a relationship purely on racial grounds - is this racist?

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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby George » August 18th, 2004, 7:55 am

I've seen a Vietnamese dude with a Black female once when i was in Toronto. It was cool but very different cuz in Canada you don't see that stuff too much.

In Southern California its different though, i've seen at least 6 Oriental guys dating Black females. 2 of them are married to those females now.

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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby Common Sense » August 18th, 2004, 11:41 am

Storm wrote:General question - If you wont consider a relationship purely on racial grounds - is this racist?


I don't understand what you are asking?????
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Re: Interracial Dating or Marriage

Postby BABY_LOCS » August 18th, 2004, 12:21 pm

I THINK HE IS ASKING...."ARE U RACIST IF U WONT CONSIDER A RELATIONSHIP WITH SOMEONE BASED ON THEIR RACE"
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