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Re: Baseball and U.S. Blacks

Postby Lonewolf » October 13th, 2004, 6:14 pm

I'm not a basefall fan myself, but being the stay at home type and keep a watch on the family more than anything, I find myself watching more tv than I really care to watch, and it is true that the BIG CORPS have a lot to do on what is put out to the public to sell, their marketing skills are very cunning. They sell you sports, music, clothing, and yes "culture" down to the gang style, and we buy into it.
If whites prefer to kick it at home and watch baseball and get season tix's to take their children to the ballpark, then they'll cater to that and make it bigger than life to them, same with action games like basketball and football. Take a look at soccer, with girls being the intended target which trickles down to mom's buying a bigger vehicle to take the whole troop to practice, because unlike basketball or footbal we either drive ourselves or walk our bad asses to the court or field, 10-4.
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Re: Baseball and U.S. Blacks

Postby Conman » October 18th, 2004, 6:45 pm

Yeah well I think it has basically died in much of the Black community and will only come back if a young exciting Barry Bonds like player hits the scene.
The sport will grow to be more international and will continue to be considered "Americas Favorite Pasttime" even when most of its players are not Americans.
Blacks have a long history with the sport....too bad that it no longer interests the community at large.
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Re: Baseball and U.S. Blacks

Postby Qdawg » August 2nd, 2006, 5:41 pm

[quote="Conman"]Basketball & Football are unquestionably the top sports for U.S. Blacks today.

[b][i]What happened to Baseball, Amerikkkas favorite past time?[/i]

[i]Why are Blacks not as interested as in the past?[/i]

[i]Is all the history of the Negro leagues forgotten and a waste?[/i][/b]

What are your thoughts?[/quote]

good question...i dont know ...seems like over the years the mlb was dominated by hispanics but blacks are starting to come to big league teams often now,will the numbers be in the thousands?i dont know
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Postby BlaKK » October 31st, 2006, 11:36 am

I dont even know how to play Baseballl thats how much I hate that shit.
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Postby epun » October 31st, 2006, 12:57 pm

I'm a big baseball fan. Played it all my life. It's basically a family sport introduced to my brothers and I by my father......and I'm black, so I feel a real passion to answer this two-year thread.

Conman was right in saying that baseball is the leading sport in salary, but in no way shape, form or fashion can black athletes just walk in and dominate the sport just for sake that we are black. One of many reasons why interest level is low among black kids is that the sport is hard. USA Today newspaper was quoted as saying that hitting a 95 mph fastball is the single hardest thing to accomplish among ALL sports.

Now, black players are some of the more accomplished players in baseball. It can be argued that Hank Aaron is the most accomplished home-run hitter (among Josh Gibson and Babe Ruth) and Barry Bonds will rank up there as well (no matter what you think of him). Bob Gibson may have been the game's most feared pitcher in all of baseball, possibly all-time. Rickey Henderson is possibly the greatest lead-off hitter of all time and of course, Willie Mays and Jackie Robinson the greatest athletes in baseball the sport has ever seen.......

During these times though, Little League was hugely popular in black communities. No sinlge sport dominated the media, so black kids played damn near everything we could get our hands on.....But this is what nobody will talk about, exactly what happened in the inner-city. Here's my two-cents......

During the height of the cocaine/crack and media growth era, black basketball players became matinee idols from our televisions. This almost single-handily exploited our communities. Basketball shoes, apparell etc...was the absolute business in the hood. Evrybody had to have to Jordan sneakers. It was now both cool and a status quo to not only look like Mike, but to also now play like Mike........

As a result, many of our kids abandoned football, baseball and track. Furthermore, because moms and pops couldn't afford Air Jordans, kids started selling drugs to look like Mike. Then it became popular among some hoods most notorious ballers to start sponsoring inner-city hoop tournaments to raise money and awareness among college scouts to kids who may have never received attention otherwise. This further polarized the sport of baseball, never to see the sport popular in the hood as it once was.....When is the last time you heard of drug kingpin putting on a inner-city baseball or football tournemant?...or passing out $200 sneakers to underpriveledged kids in hood?

Baseball scholorships are also not handed out like basketball scholorships, and by the time a young kid is 19, 20 or 21, he could be set for life and generations to come by playing basketball; football and baseball can be a little harsher in that aspect, though there are examples, but very few....

My sons play baseball, period. It is mandatory in my home. It is my personal dream they attend college on a baseball scholorship. It is truly a beautiful sport when played right........
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Postby GTS » October 31st, 2006, 2:24 pm

epun wrote:I'm a big baseball fan. Played it all my life. It's basically a family sport introduced to my brothers and I by my father......and I'm black, so I feel a real passion to answer this two-year thread.

Conman was right in saying that baseball is the leading sport in salary, but in no way shape, form or fashion can black athletes just walk in and dominate the sport just for sake that we are black. One of many reasons why interest level is low among black kids is that the sport is hard. USA Today newspaper was quoted as saying that hitting a 95 mph fastball is the single hardest thing to accomplish among ALL sports.

Now, black players are some of the more accomplished players in baseball. It can be argued that Hank Aaron is the most accomplished home-run hitter (among Josh Gibson and Babe Ruth) and Barry Bonds will rank up there as well (no matter what you think of him). Bob Gibson may have been the game's most feared pitcher in all of baseball, possibly all-time. Rickey Henderson is possibly the greatest lead-off hitter of all time and of course, Willie Mays and Jackie Robinson the greatest athletes in baseball the sport has ever seen.......

During these times though, Little League was hugely popular in black communities. No sinlge sport dominated the media, so black kids played damn near everything we could get our hands on.....But this is what nobody will talk about, exactly what happened in the inner-city. Here's my two-cents......

During the height of the cocaine/crack and media growth era, black basketball players became matinee idols from our televisions. This almost single-handily exploited our communities. Basketball shoes, apparell etc...was the absolute business in the hood. Evrybody had to have to Jordan sneakers. It was now both cool and a status quo to not only look like Mike, but to also now play like Mike........

As a result, many of our kids abandoned football, baseball and track. Furthermore, because moms and pops couldn't afford Air Jordans, kids started selling drugs to look like Mike. Then it became popular among some hoods most notorious ballers to start sponsoring inner-city hoop tournaments to raise money and awareness among college scouts to kids who may have never received attention otherwise. This further polarized the sport of baseball, never to see the sport popular in the hood as it once was.....When is the last time you heard of drug kingpin putting on a inner-city baseball or football tournemant?...or passing out $200 sneakers to underpriveledged kids in hood?

Baseball scholorships are also not handed out like basketball scholorships, and by the time a young kid is 19, 20 or 21, he could be set for life and generations to come by playing basketball; football and baseball can be a little harsher in that aspect, though there are examples, but very few....

My sons play baseball, period. It is mandatory in my home. It is my personal dream they attend college on a baseball scholorship. It is truly a beautiful sport when played right........


Don't forget Willie Mays.
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Postby Qdawg » October 31st, 2006, 5:33 pm

[quote="epun"]I'm a big baseball fan. Played it all my life. It's basically a family sport introduced to my brothers and I by my father......and I'm black, so I feel a real passion to answer this two-year thread.

Conman was right in saying that baseball is the leading sport in salary, but in no way shape, form or fashion can black athletes just walk in and dominate the sport just for sake that we are black. One of many reasons why interest level is low among black kids is that the sport is hard. USA Today newspaper was quoted as saying that hitting a 95 mph fastball is the single hardest thing to accomplish among ALL sports.

Now, black players are some of the more accomplished players in baseball. It can be argued that Hank Aaron is the most accomplished home-run hitter (among Josh Gibson and Babe Ruth) and Barry Bonds will rank up there as well (no matter what you think of him). Bob Gibson may have been the game's most feared pitcher in all of baseball, possibly all-time. Rickey Henderson is possibly the greatest lead-off hitter of all time and of course, Willie Mays and Jackie Robinson the greatest athletes in baseball the sport has ever seen.......

During these times though, Little League was hugely popular in black communities. No sinlge sport dominated the media, so black kids played damn near everything we could get our hands on.....But this is what nobody will talk about, exactly what happened in the inner-city. Here's my two-cents......

During the height of the cocaine/crack and media growth era, black basketball players became matinee idols from our televisions. This almost single-handily exploited our communities. Basketball shoes, apparell etc...was the absolute business in the hood. Evrybody had to have to Jordan sneakers. It was now both cool and a status quo to not only look like Mike, but to also now play like Mike........

As a result, many of our kids abandoned football, baseball and track. Furthermore, because moms and pops couldn't afford Air Jordans, kids started selling drugs to look like Mike. Then it became popular among some hoods most notorious ballers to start sponsoring inner-city hoop tournaments to raise money and awareness among college scouts to kids who may have never received attention otherwise. This further polarized the sport of baseball, never to see the sport popular in the hood as it once was.....When is the last time you heard of drug kingpin putting on a inner-city baseball or football tournemant?...or passing out $200 sneakers to underpriveledged kids in hood?

Baseball scholorships are also not handed out like basketball scholorships, and by the time a young kid is 19, 20 or 21, he could be set for life and generations to come by playing basketball; football and baseball can be a little harsher in that aspect, though there are examples, but very few....

My sons play baseball, period. It is mandatory in my home. It is my personal dream they attend college on a baseball scholorship. It is truly a beautiful sport when played right........[/quote]

good post man...yeah u cant forget willie,baseball is a good sport..its more a game of ya mind like chess is then it is just hitting & catching the ball
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Postby Qdawg » October 31st, 2006, 5:34 pm

ozzie smith,doc gooden(before he started getting high) ,darryl strawberry(same)..are some more good black names to throw in there
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Postby epun » November 1st, 2006, 10:30 am

Don't forget Willie Mays.


3rd paragraph, 5th line, homie......had a hard time paying attention to detail, huh? :lol:
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Postby epun » November 1st, 2006, 10:39 am

good post man...yeah u cant forget willie


like I said to GTS, 3rd paragraph, 5th line down...damn niggas don't pay attention


,baseball is a good sport..its more a game of ya mind like chess is then it is just hitting & catching the ball


Wrong...every sport has an element of chess. In fact, football and golf are more like chess than any other sport.......

baseball is strategic, I would agree to that, but nothing like chess homie. That tells me either you don't play baseball, chess or both.

If you think baseball is like chess (and I play chess), I'll just say this: I'd much rather figure out how to hit a 92mph fastball than figure out the Baltimore Ravens lunatic-ass defense!
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Postby Qdawg » November 1st, 2006, 5:19 pm

[quote="epun"][quote]good post man...yeah u cant forget willie[/quote]

like I said to GTS, 3rd paragraph, 5th line down...damn niggas don't pay attention


[quote],baseball is a good sport..its more a game of ya mind like chess is then it is just hitting & catching the ball [/quote]

Wrong...every sport has an element of chess. In fact, football and golf are more like chess than any other sport.......

baseball is strategic, I would agree to that, but nothing like chess homie. That tells me either you don't play baseball, chess or both.

If you think baseball is like chess (and I play chess), I'll just say this: I'd much rather figure out how to hit a 92mph fastball than figure out the Baltimore Ravens lunatic-ass defense![/quote]

thats just my opinion i compare mlb to chess more then any other sport...& the ravens d is vultures...raiders/chargers already had a taste of it
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Postby epun » November 2nd, 2006, 9:26 am

chargers already had a taste of it


Nigga please........The Chargers lost that game more than the Ravens winning it themselves. Chargers gave that shit away. How you gone hold a lead for 4 quarters and 3 minutes left in the game and let a BS offense like Baltimore score..........If anything, Baltimore got a taste of that Charger "D"
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Postby Qdawg » November 3rd, 2006, 6:46 pm

[quote="epun"][quote]chargers already had a taste of it[/quote]

Nigga please........The Chargers lost that game more than the Ravens winning it themselves. Chargers gave that shit away. How you gone hold a lead for 4 quarters and 3 minutes left in the game and let a BS offense like Baltimore score..........If anything, Baltimore got a taste of that Charger "D"[/quote]

lol chargers d is a joke...ravens had tomlinson on smash
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Postby Qdawg » November 3rd, 2006, 6:47 pm

other then losing seau the only defensive (good) they got is homeboy who just caught slippin for using enchancement performance drugs
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Postby NICKELS » November 11th, 2006, 12:14 am

black in u.s. baseball : black negroe leauge - blacks going to latin countries exhibition games showing them how baseball is played - getting into the majore league and going through racisim.........then not really getting into baseball in the present day as much as basketball or football or boxing ....everybody is rapping ...LOL :lol:
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