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Postby ~J~ » July 3rd, 2007, 3:10 pm

Where are you at Jupebox? I got some more old~school San Jose graffiti stuff to talk about...
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Postby Bassettsgv » July 3rd, 2007, 6:05 pm

you ever heard of a Sur Gang called VTG Tamilee Gangsters or some like that in san Jo ?? I met some vato they call Casper from that hood ...
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Postby ~J~ » July 3rd, 2007, 8:17 pm

Bassettsgv wrote:you ever heard of a Sur Gang called VTG Tamilee Gangsters or some like that in san Jo ?? I met some vato they call Casper from that hood ...
Are we friends again? lucky for you, I'm usually a pretty level headed dude. I really don't know much about them, I think they're called Barrio Tamilee Gangsters? they are somewhere around SE San Jo, according to my cousin who was banging SUR for a quick second in the late 90's.
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Postby Bassettsgv » July 3rd, 2007, 8:27 pm

I lived in San Jo for some time back in 05 .. I used to chill with some of the vatos from Poco Way 13 most of em where old foos like in their late 20's or mid 30's i read some where in the net that their inactive ?? i'm doubpting that cause them vatos seemed like they had pretty good numbers and all ??/
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Postby ~J~ » July 3rd, 2007, 10:36 pm

Bassettsgv wrote:I lived in San Jo for some time back in 05 .. I used to chill with some of the vatos from Poco Way 13 most of em where old foos like in their late 20's or mid 30's i read some where in the net that their inactive ?? i'm doubpting that cause them vatos seemed like they had pretty good numbers and all ??/
Anyone who knew anything about gangs in San Jo in the 90's heard of Poco Way, their varrio was cleaned up by a gang injunction, I think in the late 90's. they had to hold their ground firm because they caught a lot of heat from Nortenos and cops.
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Postby MMRbkaRudog » July 4th, 2007, 12:47 am

Poco Way LS moved to another location and I heard of VTG.
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Postby Bassettsgv » July 4th, 2007, 11:14 am

I lived in San JO for a Hot Year i saw my share of Crazy stuff up there .. I recall a time we went to a Chucky cheese by a freeway in san jo and we got hit up by some Nortes From a hood called palmas or some like that .. i also remember about a norte gang called Meadowfair always taggin up Poco Way and stuff like that .. i got alot of love n respect for all them Poco Way Locos their some real firme vatos .. they need to recruit some pee wees to have a new generation ..
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Postby ~J~ » July 4th, 2007, 2:58 pm

Bassettsgv wrote:I lived in San JO for a Hot Year i saw my share of Crazy stuff up there .. I recall a time we went to a Chucky cheese by a freeway in san jo and we got hit up by some Nortes From a hood called palmas or some like that .. i also remember about a norte gang called Meadowfair always taggin up Poco Way and stuff like that .. i got alot of love n respect for all them Poco Way Locos their some real firme vatos .. they need to recruit some pee wees to have a new generation ..
Meadowfair was ESH old stomping ground. I do know that's an ES neighborhood, but I don't know about the Meadowfair gangs these days if there's any.
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Postby ~J~ » July 4th, 2007, 3:09 pm

~J~ wrote:Let's take a stroll down memory lane in Downtown-NorthSide San Jose: Do you remember Taco Bell on 6th and Santa Clara? the Brothas hanging around the Liquor Store/Winchell's Donuts on 4th-5th and Santa Clara? let's go back further, I can remember when what's now consider North San Jose were Cherry Orchards and fields, Downtown (though a little before my time Hookers and Pimps on 1st, you may of heard the joke: Your mom works on 1st St.) and St. James Park were ran down with Winos and the Mission/Shelter was on going in NSSJ with the Guardian Angels on the stroll, there was no Hi-tech Companies and Alviso wasn't San Jose. There use be a kind of big Water Fountain on 3rd and Paseo De San Antonio. The most Northern Residential part of San Jose into the 80's not including the Orchard Farms and Fields was the Gish/Rosemary neighborhood. Man...
Let me make some small corrections, Alviso was annexed to San Jose in 68' but you'd not know it because of how the city neglected it. the Rosemary neighborhood is officially called "Rosemary Gardens" I through in the /Gish because it's the main street known there.
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Postby Bassettsgv » July 4th, 2007, 3:15 pm

EY J IS THAT ONE SPOT CALLED LA TROPICANA STILL WHERE ALL THE SURENOS GO TO CHILL OUT AT ? WHAT BOUT THE FLEA MARKET ON BERRYESSA I REMEMBER THE POCO WAY HOMIES AND I USED TO GO THERE TO STIRR SOME SHIT UP .. IS PALMAS STILL ON THEIR MISSION TO KILL ALL THE SAN JO SURENOS ... DAMM DOG I KINDA MISS THEM SAN JO DAYS ..
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Postby ~J~ » July 4th, 2007, 3:19 pm

~J~ wrote:"United Nation of Nortenos"
This is not the official meaning of N.O.R.T.E of course.
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Postby ~J~ » July 4th, 2007, 3:34 pm

Bassettsgv wrote:EY J IS THAT ONE SPOT CALLED LA TROPICANA STILL WHERE ALL THE SURENOS GO TO CHILL OUT AT ? WHAT BOUT THE FLEA MARKET ON BERRYESSA I REMEMBER THE POCO WAY HOMIES AND I USED TO GO THERE TO STIRR SOME SHIT UP .. IS PALMAS STILL ON THEIR MISSION TO KILL ALL THE SAN JO SURENOS ... DAMM DOG I KINDA MISS THEM SAN JO DAYS ..
The city was trying to kick out the Gente out from their Tropicana shops but they stood firm so the city didn't succeed, I'm pretty sure you'll see a Sureno there every now and then. I've not been to the Berryessa Flea Market for sometime but yeah, there are Surenos there. as far as Palmas, I asumming they are doing what Nortenos do, I don't know anything what they are doing these days.
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Postby ntenseLIFEstyle » July 5th, 2007, 9:41 am

Poco way sur never kicked it in pocoway. They always be chilling at the PK store area or on the corner of outside of pocoway in the 80's and mid 90's. Everytime they roll through pocoway they get checked by the cambodian's. They didnt start gaining weight until the late 90's when all the cambodian's got kick out and the city remodel pocoway.

They had a few firm vato but a lot of them were rankers.

LA TROPICANA - That place is all remodel. Looks very nice now.

Meadowfair- they have a lot of pee wees

Palmas- They be up in the Alum Arock area. Had a few homie's from there.
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Postby Bassettsgv » July 5th, 2007, 11:06 am

from the time i spent over there in san jo i stay on those apartments on Lido Way a couple of dudes from Poco Way Lived there The rest Lived in Poco Way or in the apartments there .. I remember there was CRIP GANG THERE TOO THE P-TOWN CRIPS.. I REMEMBER THIS ON DUDE FROM PALMAS WAS A STARIGHT RANKER USED TO PUNK ON LIL 13 YR OLDS AND THAT FOO WAS LIKE 25 TILL HE GOT CHECKED ..
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Postby ~J~ » July 5th, 2007, 12:15 pm

ntenseLIFEstyle wrote:Poco way sur never kicked it in pocoway. They always be chilling at the PK store area or on the corner of outside of pocoway in the 80's and mid 90's. Everytime they roll through pocoway they get checked by the cambodian's. They didnt start gaining weight until the late 90's when all the cambodian's got kick out and the city remodel pocoway.

They had a few firm vato but a lot of them were rankers.

LA TROPICANA - That place is all remodel. Looks very nice now.

Meadowfair- they have a lot of pee wees

Palmas- They be up in the Alum Arock area. Had a few homie's from there.
Yeah, I couldn't verify that but that's all you'd hear Nortenos said in those days, we checked them Poco Way fools. so they were never exact in Poco Way. I went to school with an EHP Vato named "Gordo" from 92-94 do you happen to know him? he should be around 30, I think he lived in Little Portugal or in the Mayfair Neighborhood.
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Postby Bassettsgv » July 5th, 2007, 1:22 pm

you dudes know a norteno called Grumpy from Flamagan or some like that ??
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Postby ntenseLIFEstyle » July 5th, 2007, 2:25 pm

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ntenseLIFEstyle wrote:Poco way sur never kicked it in pocoway. They always be chilling at the PK store area or on the corner of outside of pocoway in the 80's and mid 90's. Everytime they roll through pocoway they get checked by the cambodian's. They didnt start gaining weight until the late 90's when all the cambodian's got kick out and the city remodel pocoway.

They had a few firm vato but a lot of them were rankers.

LA TROPICANA - That place is all remodel. Looks very nice now.

Meadowfair- they have a lot of pee wees

Palmas- They be up in the Alum Arock area. Had a few homie's from there.
Yeah, I couldn't verify that but that's all you'd hear Nortenos said in those days, we checked them Poco Way fools. so they were never exact in Poco Way. I went to school with an EHP Vato named "Gordo" from 92-94 do you happen to know him? he should be around 30, I think he lived in Little Portugal or in the Mayfair Neighborhood.


Nortenos be always rolling around pocoway area. Story Rd and King is the main crusing street back in the 90's. Every Norte I bump into back in the days be asking "where the scrap at".

EHP?Gordo? I wouldnt know. Mayfair Neighborhood- I remember me and my homeboy would get jump all the time by some norte when coming home from Mayfair school. When we made it to the over path , that goes over the 680 highway it was all cool after that.
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Postby ntenseLIFEstyle » July 5th, 2007, 2:51 pm

Bassettsgv wrote:from the time i spent over there in san jo i stay on those apartments on Lido Way a couple of dudes from Poco Way Lived there The rest Lived in Poco Way or in the apartments there .. I remember there was CRIP GANG THERE TOO THE P-TOWN CRIPS.. I REMEMBER THIS ON DUDE FROM PALMAS WAS A STARIGHT RANKER USED TO PUNK ON LIL 13 YR OLDS AND THAT FOO WAS LIKE 25 TILL HE GOT CHECKED ..


Lido Way? That by the King Burger/ gas station place.

PTC- A bunch of youngsta.. Before that Pocoway was all CWA

You go to p-town now its all clean up.
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Postby Bassettsgv » July 5th, 2007, 2:55 pm

POCO WAY APTS IS FULL OF CRIPS AND SURENOS MY HOMEBOY LIVES THERE AND SAYS THEY BOTH GET ALONG JUST FINE .. LIDO WAY IS JUST OF KIND ROAD BY VIRGINIA .. A WHOLE BUNCH CLANTONERS LIVE THERE IF IM NOT MISTAKEN I THINK THATS WHERE THEY HAVE THEIR HOOD..
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Postby ~J~ » July 5th, 2007, 3:10 pm

ntenseLIFEstyle wrote:Story Rd and King is the main crusing street back in the 90's.
So was all along Santa Clara St. all the way to Story and King Rd.
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Postby ntenseLIFEstyle » July 5th, 2007, 3:22 pm

Bassettsgv wrote:POCO WAY APTS IS FULL OF CRIPS AND SURENOS MY HOMEBOY LIVES THERE AND SAYS THEY BOTH GET ALONG JUST FINE .. LIDO WAY IS JUST OF KIND ROAD BY VIRGINIA .. A WHOLE BUNCH CLANTONERS LIVE THERE IF IM NOT MISTAKEN I THINK THATS WHERE THEY HAVE THEIR HOOD..


Lodo Way is 2 blocks down from pocoway,. Virginia St is on the other side of 680 by the Police Athletic League Park.
Maybe the youngsta that live there now, are cool with them. My cousins are the one who started PTC and from what I recall they never got along with no southsider from pocoway. But than again it been year since I've seen them.
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Postby ntenseLIFEstyle » July 5th, 2007, 3:25 pm

~J~ wrote:
ntenseLIFEstyle wrote:Story Rd and King is the main crusing street back in the 90's.
So was all along Santa Clara St. all the way to Story and King Rd.



Santa Clara St aint no jock on cinco de mayo!! ahhaha
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Postby Bassettsgv » July 5th, 2007, 3:31 pm

POCO WAY IS MOSTLY OLDER FOOS LIKE IN THEIR LATE 20'S OR MID 30'S THEY GOT A COUPLE OF PEEWEES I KNOW A HAND FULL OF EM LIKE SPOOKY , GOOFY , CHINO , CYCO THEY ALL WENT TO INDEPENDENCE HIGH SCHOOL ON THE EAST SIDE .. POCO WAY AINT LIKE THEY USED TO BE BUT THEY STILL BE HOLDING IT DOWN .. WHEN EVER I TALK TO MY DOGS FROM UP NORTH THEY ALWAYS BE TALKING ABOUT VST MALOS AND CLANTON ..
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Postby ntenseLIFEstyle » July 5th, 2007, 3:45 pm

Vst had some crazy fool that live in rockspring.. CLANTON? That something new to me. How Deep is Clanton in san jose?
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Postby Bassettsgv » July 5th, 2007, 4:16 pm

THE CLANTON IN SAN JO IS MOSTLY FOOS FROM L.A . I KNOW STRANGER FROM CLANTON HE MOVED TO SAN JO FROM L.A ALSO GRIFO , WYNO , SPORTY , KATO , LOONEY AND A COUPLE OF OTHERS .. FROM WHAT I KNOW THEY MOVED MOST OF THEIR HOOD FROM L.A TO SAN JO .. THEIR PRETTY DEEP THEIR GIVING PALMAS A RUN FOR THEIR MONEY FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD..
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Postby ~J~ » July 5th, 2007, 4:55 pm

Clanton is an older SUR varrio in San Jo. Rocksprings... looks like the Gang injunction abatement didn't work at least in these days.
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Postby ~J~ » July 5th, 2007, 4:57 pm

ntenseLIFEstyle wrote:Vst had some crazy fool that live in rockspring.. CLANTON? That something new to me. How Deep is Clanton in san jose?
You got any San Jo Varrios history to share?
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Postby ~J~ » July 5th, 2007, 5:02 pm

Bassettsgv wrote:THE CLANTON IN SAN JO IS MOSTLY FOOS FROM L.A . I KNOW STRANGER FROM CLANTON HE MOVED TO SAN JO FROM L.A ALSO GRIFO , WYNO , SPORTY , KATO , LOONEY AND A COUPLE OF OTHERS .. FROM WHAT I KNOW THEY MOVED MOST OF THEIR HOOD FROM L.A TO SAN JO .. THEIR PRETTY DEEP THEIR GIVING PALMAS A RUN FOR THEIR MONEY FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD..
Is this varrio the same one from Downtown LA?
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Postby ntenseLIFEstyle » July 5th, 2007, 5:16 pm

~J~ wrote:Clanton is an older SUR varrio in San Jo. Rocksprings... looks like the Gang injunction abatement didn't work at least in these days.



VST was in Rockspring not clanton. A neighborhood close to happy hollow and spartan stadium in san jose. That neighborhood had everyone there, some Norte ,a gang of Sur, Khmer crip, Vietnamese's. Everyone was blasting everyone. I remember in 92 , me and my homeboy was chilling on top of the car pot and we saw a Vst vato with a gauge blasting this viet dude across the street.
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Postby ~J~ » July 5th, 2007, 5:39 pm

ntenseLIFEstyle wrote:
~J~ wrote:Clanton is an older SUR varrio in San Jo. Rocksprings... looks like the Gang injunction abatement didn't work at least in these days.



VST was in Rockspring not clanton. A neighborhood close to happy hollow and spartan stadium in san jose. That neighborhood had everyone there, some Norte ,a gang of Sur, Khmer crip, Vietnamese's. Everyone was blasting everyone. I remember in 92 , me and my homeboy was chilling on top of the car pot and we saw a Vst vato with a gauge blasting this viet dude across the street.
You misunderstood me, I know where Rocksprings is. I've no idea what specific gangs are-were there. that is why there's a period after the Clanton sentence, I'm saying two separate things.
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Postby Lonewolf » July 5th, 2007, 5:44 pm

About 1/2 year ago I met this old veterano from San Jo, all bien tumbado, con sus linias bien calcadas, tandito y todo el pedo, bien serio el vato pero todo clean en su hablar. El vato was from Sal Si Puedes coming down here to Diego con la familia, he shared some news with me and went his way, then I noticed you ~> "J" got Sal Si Puedes in your profile, so what's up? Break that "OLD BARRIO" down for us down here in the Southern Empire.
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Postby Bassettsgv » July 5th, 2007, 5:45 pm

AS FAR AS I KNOW SOME OF THE DUDES FROM CLANTON IN SAN JO WERE ORIGINALY FROM SOUTH CENTRAL LOS ANGELES FROM A SET THEY HAD CALLED 35TH ST JOKERS .. STRANGER . WYNO , CHINO , KATO , MUGSY , RABBIT AND STALKER MOVED TO SAN JO FROM SOUTHCENTRAL LOS AND I MET A COUPLE OF OTHERS WHO MOVED UP THERE FROM HIGHLAND PARK ..
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