Nuestra Familia aka the NF

[yo foo]

But what do you think about all those dudes in Fontana being busted? That's like right in the middle of the Inland Empire near San Bernardino. Also they caught the other guy in Moreno Valley which is also in the Inland Empire right next to Riverside.

[~J~]

I'm surprised you never noticed Nortenos being flamed up big time, & it's been going on for a long time.[/quote]Like I mentioned before, not in the way the Bloods did it in the 1980's, remember the movie Colors... check out the way those Bloods dressed, that's what I consider being "flamed up" but I guess everyone has their interpretation on it.

[~J~]

Since when have we had all these in SSSJ? What is dssl in SJ? That sounds like Deep South Side Locos from Modesto. How about this vcl? That sounds like Varrio Catorce Locos, which I don't know if is around any more & I remember being from ESSJ or maybe SSSJ to. SMN sounds familiar, but also gives me the vibe of another town varrio.

VNV also gives off a kind of familiar name. What's that 1 stand for? VM sounds kind of like VMF. What is that 1?

Yeah, he's a bit off on the Southside with regards to the Norte varrios.

I got around to with some more talking with a friend of mine with regards to the NS and other Downtown varrios and I was told that Varrio Catorce Locos was a NS varrio from around the Waston Park area and wasnt VML's also the NS varrio?

I remember Nortenos in the Southside of downtown in the mid 90's they were probably BGT or possibly 12St. I'm not really sure about where 12St's varrio was because all of 12 Street was flooded with Nortenos back then from Northside Market to very close to Happy Hollow Park, also BGT and maybe 12St were both from or are from the Spartan/Keyes area of Southside downtown San Jose.

Correction... Twelve and E Julian St was VNH area not 12St's.

[MMRbkaRudog]

I'm surprised you never noticed Nortenos being flamed up big time, & it's been going on for a long time.

Like I mentioned before, not in the way the Bloods did it in the 1980's, remember the movie Colors... check out the way those Bloods dressed, that's what I consider being "flamed up" but I guess everyone has their interpretation on it.[/quote] I know what you mean, & I have seen Northerners flame up like that for a while now. It's funny what some people consider being flamed up tho! LOL Like when I would have just a red cap on, & fools would act like I was big time flamed!

[MMRbkaRudog]

Since when have we had all these in SSSJ? What is dssl in SJ? That sounds like Deep South Side Locos from Modesto. How about this vcl? That sounds like Varrio Catorce Locos, which I don't know if is around any more & I remember being from ESSJ or maybe SSSJ to. SMN sounds familiar, but also gives me the vibe of another town varrio.

VNV also gives off a kind of familiar name. What's that 1 stand for? VM sounds kind of like VMF. What is that 1?

Yeah, he's a bit off on the Southside with regards to the Norte varrios.

I got around to with some more talking with a friend of mine with regards to the NS and other Downtown varrios and I was told that Varrio Catorce Locos was a NS varrio from around the Waston Park area and wasnt VML's also the NS varrio?

I remember Nortenos in the Southside of downtown in the mid 90's they were probably BGT or possibly 12St. I'm not really sure about where 12St's varrio was because all of 12 Street was flooded with Nortenos back then from Northside Market to very close to Happy Hollow Park, also BGT and maybe 12St were both from or are from the Spartan/Keyes area of Southside downtown San Jose.

Correction... Twelve and E Julian St was VNH area not 12St's.

I guess vcl was spread around. I've seen BML's claim ESSJ, but I think they've got members claiming NSSJ to. A varrio they claim is ESSJ, but I think part of it may go into NSSJ also. Have you heard of Varrio Milpitas LocoS? Milpas is right by NSSJ to.

[MMRbkaRudog]

But what do you think about all those dudes in Fontana being busted? That's like right in the middle of the Inland Empire near San Bernardino. Also they caught the other guy in Moreno Valley which is also in the Inland Empire right next to Riverside.

O ya, it seems like they were doing some things in Fontana. I was tripping of that Moreno valley 1 to, cuzz I wasn't sure if I read that guy was from some where else before also.

[pistolslanga]

I'm surprised you never noticed Nortenos being flamed up big time, & it's been going on for a long time.

Like I mentioned before, not in the way the Bloods did it in the 1980's, remember the movie Colors... check out the way those Bloods dressed, that's what I consider being "flamed up" but I guess everyone has their interpretation on it.[/quote]

flamed up is like being a walking target sign, ALL red, red cap red shirt/pendleton/jacket, red khakis/pants, redchucks red laces, red whatever shoes and laces, ya know, youd think flamed up was self explanatory, wearing a lot of red.

same as being trued up, or blued up, blue cap blue whatever blue khakis jeans whatever, blue laces w/e

shit isnt hard to figure out but for some people it is ha

[~J~]

flamed up is like being a walking target sign, ALL red, red cap red shirt/pendleton/jacket, red khakis/pants, redchucks red laces, red whatever shoes and laces, ya know, youd think flamed up was self explanatory, wearing a lot of red.

same as being trued up, or blued up, blue cap blue whatever blue khakis jeans whatever, blue laces w/e

shit isnt hard to figure out but for some people it is ha

Yeah, you'd be like a walking target all draped up in red or blue, not the smartest thing to do. I've yet to see a Norteno like those Bloods of the 80's in all red. I've seen Nortenos with a red hat/cap, red shirt and with a red belt and maybe some red trimming in any combo, but I guess there's Nortenos wearing red from head to toe but I've never seen it personally.

So you're staying in East Oakland now?

[MMRbkaRudog]

flamed up is like being a walking target sign, ALL red, red cap red shirt/pendleton/jacket, red khakis/pants, redchucks red laces, red whatever shoes and laces, ya know, youd think flamed up was self explanatory, wearing a lot of red.

same as being trued up, or blued up, blue cap blue whatever blue khakis jeans whatever, blue laces w/e

shit isnt hard to figure out but for some people it is ha

Yeah, you'd be like a walking target all draped up in red or blue, not the smartest thing to do. I've yet to see a Norteno like those Bloods of the 80's in all red. I've seen Nortenos with a red hat/cap, red shirt and with a red belt and maybe some red trimming in any combo, but I guess there's Nortenos wearing red from head to toe but I've never seen it personally.

So you're staying in East Oakland now?

Ok, I wasn't sure if you meant heard to toe. I consider wearing a lot of red, flamed up. I've still seen the head to toe, flamed up Nortenos. I wouldn't be surprised if you've never seen 1 tho.

[~J~]

Ok, I wasn't sure if you meant heard to toe. I consider wearing a lot of red, flamed up. I've still seen the head to toe, flamed up Nortenos. I wouldn't be surprised if you've never seen 1 tho.

Personally, IMO... I think red looks best as an accent or highlight color as trimming, being all draped in red or blue looks kind of scrubbed out to me, take it back to the oldschool look together with some red trimming, would be the best way to dress for a Norteno nowadays if you ask me.

[TVo]

Whats happenin, homies?
I've been reading most of this gigantic thread and thought I would chime in, I'm 36yrs old now, so I guess you can call me a Veterano or OG, or whatever.
I'm put in my work and happily retired.
I grew up in Sunnyvale and can remember how banging was back in the 80's and 90's. This thread has been mostly about San Jo but there there quite a few other hoods in other towns as well.
Biggest Sunnyvale gang which went back to the late 70's was V.V.S (Varrio Via Sol)
Our clicka was V.G.F st Varrio Grande Fir St. East Side S-Vale
Back in the day the main rivals of S-Vale was Mountain View (V.M.V) and WS Santa Clara (V.T.V Varrio TecatosVille) Alviso (BALS) Barrio Alviso Locos
Even Milpitas had a lil click called "Sunny Hills", I think.
But city on city and Hood on hood beef died down in the early 90's and a lot of the younger homies banned together against the Sureno incursion.

We used to go all over though, we kicked it in San Jo, Salas, Modesto, Mountain View, Santa Clara, we had homies all over and there weren't really
any Surenos, not even the "paisa" kind. The only ones we had heard about was Poco Way and that was it.
The hoods I remember in San Jo were: Lomas, CPL, East Side Hoods, BMLs, Palmas, Horseshoe, NSP (North Side Posse), Varrion Brown Pride, VSJ and to go back even farther there used to be the East Side Boys and San Jose Boys which were gangs of mixed homies, Chicano, Filipinos, etc.

Heres a piece of History for you, a long time ago I chillen with a homie from CPL and their original name was Latin Lords in the 70's.
Conversely, the Sunnyvale Gang that would become V.V.S was called EPPA. The leader of V.V.S , a homie named "Chuco" RIP, later became
president fo the South Bay chapter of the Dukes Car Club.
HWD in Hayward and FMT from Fremont were also some big varrios.
Gilas at one time I think was called Varrio 500 or something like that because they were 500 deep in Gilroy.

[~J~]

Whats happenin, homies?
I've been reading most of this gigantic thread and thought I would chime in, I'm 36yrs old now, so I guess you can call me a Veterano or OG, or whatever.
I'm put in my work and happily retired.
I grew up in Sunnyvale and can remember how banging was back in the 80's and 90's. This thread has been mostly about San Jo but there there quite a few other hoods in other towns as well.
Biggest Sunnyvale gang which went back to the late 70's was V.V.S (Varrio Via Sol)
Our clicka was V.G.F st Varrio Grande Fir St. East Side S-Vale
Back in the day the main rivals of S-Vale was Mountain View (V.M.V) and WS Santa Clara (V.T.V Varrio TecatosVille) Alviso (BALS) Barrio Alviso Locos
Even Milpitas had a lil click called "Sunny Hills", I think.
But city on city and Hood on hood beef died down in the early 90's and a lot of the younger homies banned together against the Sureno incursion.

We used to go all over though, we kicked it in San Jo, Salas, Modesto, Mountain View, Santa Clara, we had homies all over and there weren't really
any Surenos, not even the "paisa" kind. The only ones we had heard about was Poco Way and that was it.
The hoods I remember in San Jo were: Lomas, CPL, East Side Hoods, BMLs, Palmas, Horseshoe, NSP (North Side Posse), Varrion Brown Pride, VSJ and to go back even farther there used to be the East Side Boys and San Jose Boys which were gangs of mixed homies, Chicano, Filipinos, etc.

Heres a piece of History for you, a long time ago I chillen with a homie from CPL and their original name was Latin Lords in the 70's.
Conversely, the Sunnyvale Gang that would become V.V.S was called EPPA. The leader of V.V.S , a homie named "Chuco" RIP, later became
president fo the South Bay chapter of the Dukes Car Club.
HWD in Hayward and FMT from Fremont were also some big varrios.
Gilas at one time I think was called Varrio 500 or something like that because they were 500 deep in Gilroy.

Right on, nice intro Homie.

Gilas at one time I think was called Varrio 500 or something like that because they were 500 deep in Gilroy.

~~~~~^~~~~~

You just rang a bell with me, North Side Posse, I think was a Northside varrio/graffiti crew around the St. James Park Neighborhood just before VSJ came around. in fact, some of the NSP dudes may have got into VSJ.

VST and SSP were also Sur varrios in San Jo together with Poco Way on the 80's.

Was Varrio Brown Pride a East or NS varrio?

[TVo]

Brown Pride was a quasi Norteno click, The used to wear brown panos but kicked it with nortenos. Definitely not Surenos.
Hell, way back in the day, homies used to wear panos of all colors. Some neighborhoods even had their own color. You would see old San Jo cholo with blue pendletons and old sureno cholos wearing red pendletons, this was in the 70's. Way before the Eme/NF war trickled down onto the Calles.
From what I understand NSP turned into VSJ, I guess some of the homies didn't like the "posse" name since it sound too hip hop or black, isn't that ironic with the way youngsters are nowadays. I think East Side Hoods changed name to something else as well.

[TVo]

Sorry, Brown Pride was a ES click, all the way down toward White and McKee.

[TVo]

Undercover operation nets 10 Nortenos
Bay City News


Authorities believe they have delivered a serious blow to the Norteno gang in southern Santa Cruz County with this morning's arrest of 10 gang members and associates following a seven-month undercover operation.

Arrest warrants remain outstanding for four others in connection with the operation. Santa Cruz County Narcotic Enforcement Team Commander Richard Westphal said they are believed to still be in the local area. He expects they will be apprehended soon.

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"We're just one step behind them at this point,'' Westphal said.

Five additional suspects who were not part of the investigation but happened to be at the locations agents raided this morning were arrested for either outstanding warrants or for being under the influence of narcotics.

"They were in the wrong place at the wrong time,'' Westphal said.

The operation began in February and resulted in undercover officers purchasing approximately one-quarter pound of methamphetamine, with an estimated street value of $12,000, from Norteno gang members and their associates as well as four firearms including a sawed-off shotgun and an SKS assault rifle, according to Westphal.

The arrests should have an impact on Norteno gang activity in the Watsonville area.

"I'm thinking they're going to be quiet for a while,'' Westphal said.

A total of 75 agents from various law enforcement agencies throughout the area participated in one phase of the operation or another. The investigation remains ongoing and further arrests are anticipated, Westphal said.

The 10 arrestees are Watsonville residents Ismael Joseph Valdivia, 21; Lauro Solis, 21; David Ramirez Melgoza, 28; Jorge Vega, 27; Anthony Rubalcava, 26; Jesse Rubalcava, 18; Ivan Esparza, 26; Manuel Melgoza, 22; Jose DeJesus Ramirez, 31; and Juan Francisco Morales, 24. All of them are in custody in Santa Cruz County Jail on $500,000 bail each.

[~J~]

Brown Pride was a quasi Norteno click, The used to wear brown panos but kicked it with nortenos. Definitely not Surenos.
Hell, way back in the day, homies used to wear panos of all colors. Some neighborhoods even had their own color. You would see old San Jo cholo with blue pendletons and old sureno cholos wearing red pendletons, this was in the 70's. Way before the Eme/NF war trickled down onto the Calles.
From what I understand NSP turned into VSJ, I guess some of the homies didn't like the "posse" name since it sound too hip hop or black, isn't that ironic with the way youngsters are nowadays. I think East Side Hoods changed name to something else as well.

Hell, way back in the day, homies used to wear panos of all colors. Some neighborhoods even had their own color. You would see old San Jo cholo with blue pendletons and old sureno cholos wearing red pendletons, this was in the 70's. Way before the Eme/NF war trickled down onto the Calles.

Yeah. you're a little bit older then me but didnt cholos wear a lot more of the neutral colors up into the early 90's.

If I'm not mistaken, some members of Lords and JSP Orginials, graffiti crews and NSP established VSJ around 1990.

I knew an NSSJ Filipino dude who moved to Sunnyvale and got into Outlaw Brothers, do you anything about was happen with them or CWA?

East Side Hoods has been gone for sometime from what has been said.

[TVo]

HEy J,
I haven't been back to Sunnyvale is a long time, bro. I do remember in Jr. High and High School, we were constantly fighting filipinos. Sunnyvale had a large, Asian and hispanic population. I don't remember Outlaws. Back in the day there used to be a filipino gang called JepRocks or something like that and also Santa Clara Warriors were another filipino gang.

[pistolslanga]

flamed up is like being a walking target sign, ALL red, red cap red shirt/pendleton/jacket, red khakis/pants, redchucks red laces, red whatever shoes and laces, ya know, youd think flamed up was self explanatory, wearing a lot of red.

same as being trued up, or blued up, blue cap blue whatever blue khakis jeans whatever, blue laces w/e

shit isnt hard to figure out but for some people it is ha

Yeah, you'd be like a walking target all draped up in red or blue, not the smartest thing to do. I've yet to see a Norteno like those Bloods of the 80's in all red. I've seen Nortenos with a red hat/cap, red shirt and with a red belt and maybe some red trimming in any combo, but I guess there's Nortenos wearing red from head to toe but I've never seen it personally.

So you're staying in East Oakland now?

yeah in walnut with my auntie atm, just for a couple weeks i think becuase mom been having drama with her auntie who we live with, my mom still lives there but i bounced to get a clear head feel me?


but yeah, stayin flamed up or trued up, that shit was shit gangstas did back in the 70s-80s-90s, not so much anymore because back then gangstas used to just be foolish with their shit, not giving a fuck if they got targeted by enemies, because theyd target em back, muthafukkas were acting like superman, but nowadays the whole "culture" is sort of dead, people actually care if they get shot at etc ya know? they arent as "hard" you could say, ive talked to some pirus who my cousin know from LPP, he was talking about youngsters nowadays arent built as hard as the OGs, meaning they arent gonna go all flamed because they scared of the cops etc... but fools nowadays will be crips but wear a red belt and shit to catch someone slipping, or a blood throwin on some blue to catch a crip slipping.

no honor, loyalty, or respect in the game anymore, and as a new generation youngster i say that for my generation, and the newer generations. basically, fools dont bang like they used to.

[TVo]

I personally think wearing any color head to toe looks a big ridiculous.
1 bandana in your back pocket, creased and starched was good enough for me back in the day. A Red flannel or red sweat shirt and that was about it, never head to toe though.

[~J~]

Biggest Sunnyvale gang which went back to the late 70's was V.V.S (Varrio Via Sol)
Our clicka was V.G.F st Varrio Grande Fir St. East Side S-Vale
Back in the day the main rivals of S-Vale was Mountain View (V.M.V) and WS Santa Clara (V.T.V Varrio TecatosVille) Alviso (BALS) Barrio Alviso Locos

Are any of these varrios still around? if I'm not mistaken V.M.V and BALS got into it in the 90's or at least had a dislike for one another.

Even Milpitas had a lil click called "Sunny Hills", I think.

There were a lot of fields, cherry orchards between Downtown's NSSJ-Milpitas-Alviso-Santa Clara and maybe Sunnyvale up into the mid 80's, if I remember correctly.

But city on city and Hood on hood beef died down in the early 90's and a lot of the younger homies banned together against the Sureno incursion.
Right.

The hoods I remember in San Jo were: Lomas, CPL, East Side Hoods, BMLs, Palmas, Horseshoe, NSP (North Side Posse), Varrion Brown Pride, VSJ and to go back even farther there used to be the East Side Boys and San Jose Boys which were gangs of mixed homies, Chicano, Filipinos, etc.

That Lomas would be Varrio Lomas Locos, right? I think most of these first varrios you mentioned predate San Jose Boys. What the deal on the East Side Boys?

[~J~]

but yeah, stayin flamed up or trued up, that shit was shit gangstas did back in the 70s-80s-90s, not so much anymore because back then gangstas used to just be foolish with their shit, not giving a fu-- if they got targeted by enemies, because theyd target em back, muthafukkas were acting like superman, but nowadays the whole "culture" is sort of dead, people actually care if they get shot at etc ya know? they arent as "hard" you could say, ive talked to some pirus who my cousin know from LPP, he was talking about youngsters nowadays arent built as hard as the OGs, meaning they arent gonna go all flamed because they scared of the cops etc...

but fools nowadays will be crips but wear a red belt and shit to catch someone slipping, or a blood throwin on some blue to catch a crip slipping.

Right, but isnt that something.

no honor, loyalty, or respect in the game anymore, and as a new generation youngster i say that for my generation, and the newer generations. basically, fools dont bang like they used to.

Yeah, that holds true with a lot of the youngster Nortenos at least the ones I've seen, the Homies of the 80s-90s had much more of the makeup of a Gangster, but sh-- changed, youngsters nowadays think banging is a game.

[KollmarVago408]

only reason why Bassett had the same photobucket is because the dude asked me if i could upload a picture for him since he didnt have a photobucket .. 2nd i dont know a thing about southern california or for that matter Bassett or anywhere near that place .. i'm from San Jose 408 born and raised .. believe what ever you want to believe im coming straight at you people ...

[KollmarVago408]

one more thing ..

Rest In Peace to Wolfy & Cholo From Poco Way VLT ..
they were murdered 2 days ago .... R.I.P....

[KollmarVago408]

as for that comment about me lying and trying to pump up surenos reputation in san jo ... KVT is a legit varrio and your welcome to come by anyday ....
why are surenos using Shark Attire ? VST Has been around since the 70's , VLT . SSP have also been around for a long time .. some nortenos take what ever they hear and believe it ... as far as clantone the've been around since 1993 ......

[~J~]

^ You've been on hiatus... don't trip Homie, it isnt that serious. I really don't care about it anyway, just keep it like you were been doing, and it's all good

[KollmarVago408]

[KollmarVago408]

^^^^ the homie triste from Varrio Sur Town Malos West Side San Jose ....

[KollmarVago408]

the homie Casper from VST left & The home Mr. Silent From Poco Way VLT .....

[KollmarVago408]

the homies from WS Clantone kickin it at HorseShoe Park ...

[KollmarVago408]

im just gonna sit back and let the muthafuckin hatin begin

"there aint no scraps in san jo"
"Their all fake they never come out their houses"

Surenos are here and we're here to stay wether motherfuckers like it or not ....

[KollmarVago408]

im just gonna sit back and let the muthafuckin hatin begin

"there aint no scraps in san jo"
"Their all fake they never come out their houses"

Surenos are here and we're here to stay wether motherfuckers like it or not ....

[KollmarVago408]

im just gonna sit back and let the muthafuckin hatin begin

"there aint no scraps in san jo"
"Their all fake they never come out their houses"

Surenos are here and we're here to stay wether motherfuckers like it or not ....